Re: Hey *CAN I OVERDOSE ON THYROID MEDS ARMOUR/SYNTH...

[Guest guest]

Oh my what a confusing mess, I dont knwo what to do any more all I know is

that I want to feel better soon! aghh

should i take that thytrophin pmg? what do you think

[Guest guest]

sandy so you think I should add the PMG product and not the synthroid right?

[Guest guest]

i took the 2 1/2 grains

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:53:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> Oh what I was afraid is that I coudl overdose on my thyroid meds if I

> combine

> both? can this happen?

>

>

not overdose as in die. but overdose as in have some hyper symptoms in a few

weeks if you're getting too much.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/2005 9:04:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> should i take that thytrophin pmg? what do you think

>

if it were me, i'd only take the armour. armour has everything you need.

cindi

[Guest guest]

really should i just up the dose? like val said but in a few weeks

[Guest guest]

ohh ok, so i will make sure i dont take too much i was thinking of taking 4

grams daily

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't till you go see the Doctor. Our usual protocol for Armour is raise it

by no more than a half a grain every 3-5 weeks if you still have hypo symptoms.

If you take that as well, there is no way of knowing what thyroid hormones ARE

in it in what amounts.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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[Guest guest]

To get an idea if you are overdosing, here is some information.

The healthy human thyroid makes about 4-1/2 to 5 grains of ARmour

equivlelent a day. This is about 333 to 370 mcg of Synthroid

equivelent.

1 grain of Armour = 74 mcg of Synthroid (roughly)

Take your Armour dose and multiply it times 74.

If you are taking any T3, multiply that dose by 4 to get Synthroid

equivelent mcg units.

Take the results in Synthroid units above and add them all together

to get the total dose. This will give you your total daily dose in

Synthroid mcg units.

Take your total and see how close it is to 333 to 370 mcg. 333 to

370 mcg is roughly the total amount of Synthroid equivelent that a

healthy thryoid makes in a day. If the total you are taking is over

about 222 mcg or about 3 grains, then you need to be careful and not

make any more dose raises without waiting at least 4 weeks between

them. Once you get up past 3 grains or over 222 mcg you can have a

problem with T4 slowly building up in the blood and not know it is

happening. So, if you make raises too soon, you can inadvertantly go

very hyperthyroid unexpectedly and get into trouble.

The rule of thumb is that you can't overdose on a dose less than

what your healthy thyroid would make because your pituitary will

drop production of TSH to tell your thyroid to make that much less,

keeping your daily total somewhere around 4-1/2 to 5 grains or less.

Generally, you can't overdose untill your dose gets near 4-1/2 to 5

grains if you are a healthy person.

However, hypothryoids tend to be very sensitive to thryoid hormone.

If you make dose raises that are too big at one time, you can over

tax your adrenals and this could send you into a crisis situation.

If you don't have enough adrenal output for the amount of thyroid

you are taking, thryoid builds up in the blood and cannot get into

tissues. This then exposes the heart to too much thyroid hormone and

it can be like overdosing on thyroid. You can also get into problems

with big dose raises by having nutritional deficiencies like anemia

and mineral deficiencies. All these will make thyroid hormone much

more potent.

So, the best thing to do is to make dose raises that are small, like

1/4 grain at a time. When your total dose per day gets around 3

grains or 222 mcg of Synthroid then you need to really slow down on

dose raises and wait 4 weeks or more between any more raises.

Monitor your temperature and pulse and symptoms. If your temperature

starts to average over 98.6 and your pulse is 84 beats per minute or

more, or you become shakey and weak, then you need to back down on

the thyroid.

http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp

In the old days before the TSH test, average thyroid doses were 3 to

5 grains a day or about 222 to as high as 500 mcg Synthroid. Be

careful if you are getting up there near the upper end of what a

thyroid makes in a day. Go slow!!! This is so you don't take a

chance of gong too hyperthyroid too quickly so that you can correct

it easily or so that you don't end up at the hospital getting more

drastic corrections of too much thyroid in the blood.

Tish

[Guest guest]

, I have no clue on this one. Look at tishes post about this and what

she has to say about it.

I think her user name is lkwetter. She has a post about it I just read.

SandyE~Houston

Re: Hey *CAN I OVERDOSE ON THYROID MEDS

ARMOUR/SYNTH...

sandy so you think I should add the PMG product and not the synthroid right?