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I'd say that the IUD is probably not a good idea. I had them for

several years before having my tubes tied. They can make your periods

much heavier and very painful, so she probably wouldn't like that,

either. (And I had already had 2 children.) Do they still do those

rods under the skin, or have they been taken off the market?

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> Do any of your daughters use the IUD method of birth control? If

so, are there any daughters who are using this method and have not

ever had a child? Some of the info indicate that women who have never

had a child should not consider the IUD as the method of choice. We

have just gone through our first, and I hope our last abortion. We

have tried other methods, but this is a girl who cannot remember to

brush her own teeth. She has already tried the Depo shot for two

years, gained 25 lbs., refused to take it again. She was pregnant

immediately after resuming her first period. Also, info is saying they

may be taking the Depo off the market because it is harming the heart

and bones. Any information or feedback on this birth control method

would be appreciated. Our daughter is 20, very immature,

argumentative, lacking in social skills and self-control. We need a

breather from this pregnancy problem because we have so many other

problems with her on a daily/hourly basis.

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In a message dated 3/23/2006 11:04:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gabfwb@... writes:

Our daughter is 20, very immature, argumentative, lacking in social skills

and self-control. We need a breather from this pregnancy problem because we have

so many other problems with her on a daily/hourly basis.

Hi Gab? and Welcome. You have come to the right place. My daughter, now 19

has had two abortions one at 15 one at 17. I myself don't like the IUD's and

my daughter doesn't have one, but she is on birth control pills. Ortho

something. She has had no problems with them and is doing alright with them.

Although my daughter is much further along than yours, reading my past posts to

others here will help you. Your daughter is still living at home with you?

Does she have a job?

Hugs,

DebbieL

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In a message dated 3/24/2006 11:05:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

gabfwb@... writes:

Our daughter was asked to leave the home last Dec. and she was gone for 23

days. At that point she said she did not want to live like a homeless person,

wanted to come home and get a job

Okay, you sit her down at the table, one on one, or you and hubby and her.

Stand your ground, be stern. Don't get pulled in to any arguing, this is your

house, your rules. She wants to stay, she can abide by them. You will be

surprised at her reaction when you have sat her down. Yes, do put it in

writing.

If I may, I will send you my contract. I have to email it direct to you

with your permission as we cant send attachements here in the group.

Change the contract to fit your situation. Make it clear to you expect that

she uphold her stay there, doing chores, etc. They dote on structure so

listing things for them on a daily basis is good. Remind her of what she said

when

she was out on her own. She doesn't like it away from home, so remind her

she has to earn her keep. If would like to also, you may call me, I have an

800# here at work if you would like to chat. Let me know about the contract.

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Hi Gabfwb,

I used three IUDs, all for several years, two taken out for planned

pregnancies. The third one after menopause. My first one was before I

had any children (or pregnancies).

I never had any problems, no cramping, no heavy bleeding (after the

first month or two), no pain, no infections, etc.

I feel that since I never had menstrual cramps to begin with I never

had any problems. Other woman I know that had cramps before the IUD

had a difficult time with them.

I would recommend an IUD for any woman who doesn't have cramping. Both

the birth control shot and the one under the skin STOPS the monthly

menstrual flow and both have many problems.

>

> Do any of your daughters use the IUD method of birth control? If

so, are there any daughters who are using this method and have not

ever had a child? Some of the info indicate that women who have never

had a child should not consider the IUD as the method of choice. We

have just gone through our first, and I hope our last abortion. We

have tried other methods, but this is a girl who cannot remember to

brush her own teeth. She has already tried the Depo shot for two

years, gained 25 lbs., refused to take it again. She was pregnant

immediately after resuming her first period. Also, info is saying they

may be taking the Depo off the market because it is harming the heart

and bones. Any information or feedback on this birth control method

would be appreciated. Our daughter is 20, very immature,

argumentative, lacking in social skills and self-control. We need a

breather from this pregnancy problem because we have so many other

problems with her on a daily/hourly basis.

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Debbie, Our daughter was asked to leave the home last Dec. and she was gone for

23 days. At that point she said she did not want to live like a homeless person,

wanted to come home and get a job. Update is she did get a very good job with

lots of potential but would not give up dirt-bag boyfriend and other dirt-bag

friends. As a result boyfriend beat her up, he's in jail, she got pregnant, had

abortion. Now I'm ready to set down these rules: Keep the job and work more

hours, get some DBT therapy which I just found out about in our area (I will

gladly pay for it) and be on some fool proof birth control. What do you think?

Should I put this in writing? If she can't comply to these three things, I want

her out of the house and I want no contact. Letting go is such a process and we

all reach our limits at different times. I'm ready to take a hard stance on her

and I know that I will follow through this time. Any other suggestions?

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In a message dated 3/23/2006 11:04:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gabfwb@... writes:

Our daughter is 20, very immature, argumentative, lacking in social skills

and self-control. We need a breather from this pregnancy problem because we

have

so many other problems with her on a daily/hourly basis.

Hi Gab? and Welcome. You have come to the right place. My daughter, now 19

has had two abortions one at 15 one at 17. I myself don't like the IUD's and

my daughter doesn't have one, but she is on birth control pills. Ortho

something. She has had no problems with them and is doing alright with them.

Although my daughter is much further along than yours, reading my past posts

to

others here will help you. Your daughter is still living at home with you?

Does she have a job?

Hugs,

DebbieL

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Debbie, I would like your contract but I don't know how to get it-what the

internet procedure is. I would also like your 800#. Thanks, gab

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In a message dated 3/24/2006 11:05:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

gabfwb@... writes:

Our daughter was asked to leave the home last Dec. and she was gone for 23

days. At that point she said she did not want to live like a homeless person,

wanted to come home and get a job

Okay, you sit her down at the table, one on one, or you and hubby and her.

Stand your ground, be stern. Don't get pulled in to any arguing, this is your

house, your rules. She wants to stay, she can abide by them. You will be

surprised at her reaction when you have sat her down. Yes, do put it in

writing.

If I may, I will send you my contract. I have to email it direct to you

with your permission as we cant send attachements here in the group.

Change the contract to fit your situation. Make it clear to you expect that

she uphold her stay there, doing chores, etc. They dote on structure so

listing things for them on a daily basis is good. Remind her of what she said

when

she was out on her own. She doesn't like it away from home, so remind her

she has to earn her keep. If would like to also, you may call me, I have an

800# here at work if you would like to chat. Let me know about the contract.

DebbieL

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Hi, I have a 19 year old that had many issues as well. I wrote a contract and

it was quite successful. She has said herself that she needs to see these

expectations in black and white which I find is interesting. I suggest a

contract. Ours is on our refrigerator as a constant reminder. My daughter

struggled from the time she was 15 having similar experiences as your daughter.

After I made major changes with my boundaries and expectations she has gotten

it together and is now going to college. This is a huge change and I'm quite

proud of her.

gabfwb gabfwb@...> wrote: Debbie, Our daughter was asked to

leave the home last Dec. and she was gone for 23 days. At that point she said

she did not want to live like a homeless person, wanted to come home and get a

job. Update is she did get a very good job with lots of potential but would

not give up dirt-bag boyfriend and other dirt-bag friends. As a result

boyfriend beat her up, he's in jail, she got pregnant, had abortion. Now I'm

ready to set down these rules: Keep the job and work more hours, get some DBT

therapy which I just found out about in our area (I will gladly pay for it) and

be on some fool proof birth control. What do you think? Should I put this in

writing? If she can't comply to these three things, I want her out of the house

and I want no contact. Letting go is such a process and we all reach our limits

at different times. I'm ready to take a hard stance on her and I know that I

will follow through this time. Any other suggestions?

Re: Birth control question

In a message dated 3/23/2006 11:04:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gabfwb@... writes:

Our daughter is 20, very immature, argumentative, lacking in social skills

and self-control. We need a breather from this pregnancy problem because we

have

so many other problems with her on a daily/hourly basis.

Hi Gab? and Welcome. You have come to the right place. My daughter, now

19

has had two abortions one at 15 one at 17. I myself don't like the IUD's

and

my daughter doesn't have one, but she is on birth control pills. Ortho

something. She has had no problems with them and is doing alright with

them.

Although my daughter is much further along than yours, reading my past posts

to

others here will help you. Your daughter is still living at home with you?

Does she have a job?

Hugs,

DebbieL

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>Now I'm ready to set down these rules:

> Keep the job and work more hours, get some DBT

> therapy which I just found out about in our area (I

> will gladly pay for it) and be on some fool proof

> birth control. What do you think? Should I put this

> in writing? If she can't comply to these three

> things, I want her out of the house and I want no

> contact. Letting go is such a process and we all

> reach our limits at different times. I'm ready to

> take a hard stance on her and I know that I will

> follow through this time. Any other suggestions?

You go girl!!! By all means put it ALL in writing.

1. Keep the job

2. Stay on birth control

3. Go to DPT

or leave home and lose contact.

It looks very simple and clear to me. It will be the

hardest thing you've ever done and I do NOT envy you

for a second. Please stay in touch and let us know

how things are doing. Make sure your daughter knows

that you love her, but you cannot take care of her

UNLESS she sticks to the rules. You may want to add

more eventually, but if she can stick to these three,

you will all be in a much better place and can think

about that when it happens.

A big hug and many prayers,

Deborah

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