Re: OMG-----Am I so ticked off at my Friend

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I still think that you need to write and tell her exactly how you feel.

This is almost like what Opra did on her program several weeks ago and if we

use common sense we will se that the GBS is just a tool to start us on a

total new way of life which I would never change for anything.

Lin

422-338-250

Lhsh@...

American by birth,

Saved by the grace of God.

OMG-----Am I so ticked off at my Friend

My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use to

live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you can

only imagine what all she said to me.

Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

" I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision more

people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain decent.

Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to better

her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

questions.

but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

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4:48 PM

[Guest guest]

Well, , for starters, you can tell your friend that she obviously

didn't bother to watch the whole Dr. G show.

Fortunately, I did. It was only SUSPECTED at first that she had died

from complications of GBS. Once the internal examination was

conducted, however, the conclusion was that she had been a binge

drinker for the past 5 years, and her liver was severely damaged from it.

They showed a liver that was like hers, both whole and under the

microscope. You could actually see huge globules of fat under the

microscope, and the whole liver looked a sickly yellow instead of

maroon red, like it should. The damage was obvious once the liver was

shown.

So I'd guess she never watched the whole thing. It was declared that

the woman's death had nothing to do with GBS. The official cause of

death was listed as fatty liver necrosis due to binge drinking.

Wonder how she'll react when she figures out that she's been busted

telling you a fib!

--Cat

>

> My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use to

> live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you can

> only imagine what all she said to me.

>

> Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

>

> " I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

> autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

> Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision more

> people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

>

> I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain decent.

> Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

> still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

> friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

> jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

>

> I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

> right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

> positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

> door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to better

> her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

> questions.

>

> but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You definitely bring up a great point here. I hate it when people think

that they have all of the answers when they don't even listen to all of the

evidence.

Lin

422-338-250

Lhsh@...

American by birth,

Saved by the grace of God.

Re: OMG-----Am I so ticked off at my Friend

Well, , for starters, you can tell your friend that she obviously

didn't bother to watch the whole Dr. G show.

Fortunately, I did. It was only SUSPECTED at first that she had died

from complications of GBS. Once the internal examination was

conducted, however, the conclusion was that she had been a binge

drinker for the past 5 years, and her liver was severely damaged from it.

They showed a liver that was like hers, both whole and under the

microscope. You could actually see huge globules of fat under the

microscope, and the whole liver looked a sickly yellow instead of

maroon red, like it should. The damage was obvious once the liver was

shown.

So I'd guess she never watched the whole thing. It was declared that

the woman's death had nothing to do with GBS. The official cause of

death was listed as fatty liver necrosis due to binge drinking.

Wonder how she'll react when she figures out that she's been busted

telling you a fib!

--Cat

>

> My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use to

> live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you can

> only imagine what all she said to me.

>

> Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

>

> " I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

> autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

> Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision more

> people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

>

> I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain decent.

> Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

> still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

> friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

> jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

>

> I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

> right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

> positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

> door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to better

> her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

> questions.

>

> but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

>

>

>

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4:48 PM

[Guest guest]

,

Instead of you personally responding to her email. Why not send her

some links via email to Obesity Help and a few others, so she can

read and educate herself on what wls is really about. Noted she may

not use the links, but you could try. She definately has no clue or

she herself would check into it for herself. And why wait to Jan to

quit smoking. Quit Now. Stats show people whom try to quit smoking as

a New Year's resoultion, FAIL. She really needs to get serious about

her own health and stop badgering you about your choice to be

healthy. I hope she comes around, for the sake of your long term

friendship. Sherry

>

> My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use

to

> live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you

can

> only imagine what all she said to me.

>

> Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

>

> " I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

> autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

> Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision

more

> people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

>

> I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain

decent.

> Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

> still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

> friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

> jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

>

> I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

> right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

> positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

> door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to

better

> her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

> questions.

>

> but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow , it's pretty clear how she feels about this. The question

is how much do you want her in your life? Is she going to help your

life by encouraging you and supporting you or is she going to do

more harm? I wouldn't respond until you've had time to cool down

and think about what you are wanting from this person. lisamathis76

>

> My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use

to

> live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you

can

> only imagine what all she said to me.

>

> Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

>

> " I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

> autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

> Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision

more

> people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

>

> I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain

decent.

> Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at

5'5 "

> still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

> friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a

bit

> jealous or something like that. that is why she is so

discouraging.

>

> I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

> right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

> positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that

the

> door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to

better

> her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

> questions.

>

> but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cat

I'm so glad you did watch it, I'm almost tempted to cut and paste some

of what you wrote and send it to her. But, you know that is no way to

act, and she may need to be able to quietly eat her words one day. I

want to be here for her when or if she needs me.

I knew the truth without even seeing the show. One of the things I

just wrote her back and said was, you know a lot of folks die from a

lot of things each and every day, it was their time. Then I got a

touch naughty. And I said to her, it is not my time, I have too much

torturing to do to my husband before I go, but just in case I do, I

just wanted you to know I intend to be bured with all my jewerly, if

the next bit** wants it, let her dig for it.

then I told her no way, was I going anywhere, I had to hang around and

torture her to and nag her into quitting smoking and losing weight.

I bet she sits quiet for a few days and thinks about all that.

[Guest guest]

ha ha

you know I did do that, I gave her that one and the link to my Dr A,

in Mexico and suggested she join the lap band group and just lurk and

read.

You know you can lead a whore to water but you can't make her drink.

LOL

[Guest guest]

Maybe you should say thank you. I've actually done that with my mom. I said:

Thanks for the information. I actually read about that myself because I've

done quite a bit of research as this is a major decision in my life. I'm glad to

know you care. I'll let you know how I'm doing. Talk to you later. Hugs and

Kisses Bitch!

Oh, leave out the Bitch part, my mom read it wrong.

magnoliamouth karenostrom@...> wrote:

My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use to

live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you can

only imagine what all she said to me.

Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

" I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision more

people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain decent.

Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to better

her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

questions.

but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

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[Guest guest]

Just keep what I told you in your back pocket and pull it out of you

need it, or if she tries to use that again to make a point.

(Personally, I'd bust her, but then, again, people who use specious

points to support their position don't like being caught red-handed.)

Maybe like someone else suggested, knowing now that she either lied or

never watched the show, I'd question how much you need such a

non-supportive person in your life.

And always remember: A good friend will help you move. A really good

friend will help you move a body.

--Cat

>

> Cat

>

> I'm so glad you did watch it, I'm almost tempted to cut and paste some

> of what you wrote and send it to her. But, you know that is no way to

> act, and she may need to be able to quietly eat her words one day. I

> want to be here for her when or if she needs me.

>

> I knew the truth without even seeing the show. One of the things I

> just wrote her back and said was, you know a lot of folks die from a

> lot of things each and every day, it was their time. Then I got a

> touch naughty. And I said to her, it is not my time, I have too much

> torturing to do to my husband before I go, but just in case I do, I

> just wanted you to know I intend to be bured with all my jewerly, if

> the next bit** wants it, let her dig for it.

>

> then I told her no way, was I going anywhere, I had to hang around and

> torture her to and nag her into quitting smoking and losing weight.

>

> I bet she sits quiet for a few days and thinks about all that.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-Couldn't bring myself to say thank you. She is probably calling me a

bitch right now any way, I wished she'd do it to my face at least I

could have a good come back.

" You say bitch, like that is a bad thing "

Well evantually unless she just decides to keep her overwight, she'll

want to ask questions, but with her you never know. So....so be it.

[Guest guest]

WEll at this point in our lives it is a email friendship since we have

a lot of miles between us so I don't worry about that part,

But my favorite saying is:

" A friend will come and get you out of jail, a good friend will be

sitting beside you saying damn that was fun "

I guess I'm not to old to get into trouble, there may be hope for me yeta

[Guest guest]

>I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain decent.

>Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

>still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

>friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

>jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

Military means Tricare insurance. The easiest in the world to get

approval from. I was approved the moment we called. They cover 100%

when you are still active duty status. 80% when retired, but you

cannot pay more then 3000 dollars per year! Perhaps she should check

into it.

Katharina

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[Guest guest]

I had a friend who knew someone that had died years after having the surgery

(yes she is skeptical). I asked her what did he die from - she couldn't tell

me, but she blames the surgery. I told her there are so many things a person

can die from and just because he had the surgery doesn't mean it caused his

death. I have done lots of education and know the risks, I told her. The

risk is worth taking especially since I am still in decent health.

Ignorance is bliss....

Jackie in CA

Lin Hunnicutt lhsh@...> wrote:

You definitely bring up a great point here. I hate it when people

think

that they have all of the answers when they don't even listen to all of the

evidence.

Lin

422-338-250

Lhsh@...

American by birth,

Saved by the grace of God.

Re: OMG-----Am I so ticked off at my Friend

Well, , for starters, you can tell your friend that she obviously

didn't bother to watch the whole Dr. G show.

Fortunately, I did. It was only SUSPECTED at first that she had died

from complications of GBS. Once the internal examination was

conducted, however, the conclusion was that she had been a binge

drinker for the past 5 years, and her liver was severely damaged from it.

They showed a liver that was like hers, both whole and under the

microscope. You could actually see huge globules of fat under the

microscope, and the whole liver looked a sickly yellow instead of

maroon red, like it should. The damage was obvious once the liver was

shown.

So I'd guess she never watched the whole thing. It was declared that

the woman's death had nothing to do with GBS. The official cause of

death was listed as fatty liver necrosis due to binge drinking.

Wonder how she'll react when she figures out that she's been busted

telling you a fib!

--Cat

>

> My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use to

> live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you can

> only imagine what all she said to me.

>

> Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

>

> " I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

> autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

> Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision more

> people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

>

> I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain decent.

> Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

> still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

> friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

> jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

>

> I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

> right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

> positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

> door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to better

> her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

> questions.

>

> but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I actually do know someone who died from the surgery, she had it about

7 years ago, she had many other problems as well, self medicator and a

drinker. I didn't know her personally, but I knew her daughter very

well and heard a lot from her. The biggest thing is she did have a

minor problem and because she was a bit nutso, when she went to the ER

they ignored her or about 5 years, by the time a real doctor found it,

it was to late.

I'm still not going to let that scare me off. That ws 7 years ago and

once again, I suspect this lady didn't do things as she was

instructed. I don't know any of this for sure, but I knew her

daughter well.

They just weren't the kind of folks that believed in doing things the

right way.

[Guest guest]

Katharina

I found that out about TRICARE (I don't qualify, but she does) and I

told her about it, and she got of did one of those, oh I'd never do

that, I'm going to lose my weight by dieting and working out.

I said, sure ok......now I'm just going to wait until she starts

asking questions or tells me she has an appointment or something.

I know she will, or I hope she does, because if she doesn't, I'll be

worried about her health. Her mom died from a heart condition, so I

bet that run in the family.

I'll give her time to accept the idea, some folks need that.

[Guest guest]

At 12/30/2006 07:17 PM, you wrote:

>Katharina

>

>I found that out about TRICARE (I don't qualify, but she does) and I

>told her about it, and she got of did one of those, oh I'd never do

>that, I'm going to lose my weight by dieting and working out.

>

>I said, sure ok......now I'm just going to wait until she starts

>asking questions or tells me she has an appointment or something.

>

>I know she will, or I hope she does, because if she doesn't, I'll be

>worried about her health. Her mom died from a heart condition, so I

>bet that run in the family.

>

>I'll give her time to accept the idea, some folks need that.

I would give her time too. You know some people use negatism as a

defense. I bet she is playing with the idea, but is scared. Plus

she may still have to come to grips that she cannot lose the weight

and keep it off. Only 5% succeeds. It's not that hard, if you are

only 50 pounds or less over the weight. Once you are at 100 it is

almost impossible. It's not just the will power, it is the insulin

resistance your body throws at you as you age and gain more

weight. They are now learning that there are more genes involved

then they thought. I don't know, if you have heard of PCOS (Poly

Cystic Ovarian Syndrome). For year doctors said loose weight and it

will go way. They even bandaged it with birth control pills. I went

to a conference in Chicago where the leading researchers talked about

defective genes in PCOS. They isolated 7 genes that comprise this

illness. Not everyone has all of these 7 defects, but you only need

one to get it rolling. The one defect all PCOS woman have effects

the reproductive system and the insulin resistance. They are right

next to each other one the same DNS strand. This is something they

did not know 10 years ago, and quite honest most doctors stop

learning once they are licensed. I had to educate my doctors in the

past, by hammering them with medical reports and studies. We later

moved up here to Klamath Falls Oregon, after my husband retired from

the service. What we didn't know was that this hospital has a

medical university campus right next to it. We were surprised to

find doctors that were informed. On top new studies showed that RNY

surgery works in PCOS. Even the mini gastric works. They found the

malabsorption is the key. Thats why I opted for it, and in time

before all the weight related problems started. So anyway hang in

with her, keep your friend posted of your progress. She may be

jealous first, but as you stated she may be asking

questions. Perhaps in a year she may have " her light come on " .

Katharina

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[Guest guest]

Hi there.. I can SOOOO totally relate to this subject! I think everyone of us

has a friend or associate who has acted like that on the weight loss surgery

subject. My best friend of 16 years has given me the same crap.. discouraged me

from the get go.even went as far as to tell me she'd never want to look like an

" AUTOPSY CASE " and that she'd rather be fat. she now teases me about my incision

scar calling it I-75.. I personally have learned to take this with a grain of

salt as I feel she is just jealous because I had the courage to make a lifestyle

change and she doesnt. yet,she needed to do it as bad as I did.. I was 5'5 309

lbs.. shes 5'11 and well over 350. Dont worry about what other folks say.. as

long as you love the person in the mirror staring back at you,, you need

acceptance and approval from no one! take care.. from Mi 309/273/150

Katharina davitt@...> wrote: At

12/30/2006 07:17 PM, you wrote:

>Katharina

>

>I found that out about TRICARE (I don't qualify, but she does) and I

>told her about it, and she got of did one of those, oh I'd never do

>that, I'm going to lose my weight by dieting and working out.

>

>I said, sure ok......now I'm just going to wait until she starts

>asking questions or tells me she has an appointment or something.

>

>I know she will, or I hope she does, because if she doesn't, I'll be

>worried about her health. Her mom died from a heart condition, so I

>bet that run in the family.

>

>I'll give her time to accept the idea, some folks need that.

I would give her time too. You know some people use negatism as a

defense. I bet she is playing with the idea, but is scared. Plus

she may still have to come to grips that she cannot lose the weight

and keep it off. Only 5% succeeds. It's not that hard, if you are

only 50 pounds or less over the weight. Once you are at 100 it is

almost impossible. It's not just the will power, it is the insulin

resistance your body throws at you as you age and gain more

weight. They are now learning that there are more genes involved

then they thought. I don't know, if you have heard of PCOS (Poly

Cystic Ovarian Syndrome). For year doctors said loose weight and it

will go way. They even bandaged it with birth control pills. I went

to a conference in Chicago where the leading researchers talked about

defective genes in PCOS. They isolated 7 genes that comprise this

illness. Not everyone has all of these 7 defects, but you only need

one to get it rolling. The one defect all PCOS woman have effects

the reproductive system and the insulin resistance. They are right

next to each other one the same DNS strand. This is something they

did not know 10 years ago, and quite honest most doctors stop

learning once they are licensed. I had to educate my doctors in the

past, by hammering them with medical reports and studies. We later

moved up here to Klamath Falls Oregon, after my husband retired from

the service. What we didn't know was that this hospital has a

medical university campus right next to it. We were surprised to

find doctors that were informed. On top new studies showed that RNY

surgery works in PCOS. Even the mini gastric works. They found the

malabsorption is the key. Thats why I opted for it, and in time

before all the weight related problems started. So anyway hang in

with her, keep your friend posted of your progress. She may be

jealous first, but as you stated she may be asking

questions. Perhaps in a year she may have " her light come on " .

Katharina

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[Guest guest]

Katharina,

I think some people put this surgery down because they don't know much

about it and it makes some people scared....I wouldn't hold it against her,

she may come around and be more supportive as time goes on and she learns

more about it.....

Mike T

Re: OMG-----Am I so ticked off at my Friend

> Katharina

>

> I found that out about TRICARE (I don't qualify, but she does) and I

> told her about it, and she got of did one of those, oh I'd never do

> that, I'm going to lose my weight by dieting and working out.

>

> I said, sure ok......now I'm just going to wait until she starts

> asking questions or tells me she has an appointment or something.

>

> I know she will, or I hope she does, because if she doesn't, I'll be

> worried about her health. Her mom died from a heart condition, so I

> bet that run in the family.

>

> I'll give her time to accept the idea, some folks need that.

>

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[Guest guest]

As with any surgery there are complications, some people dont think

about that. Would a person not have heart bypass surgery because of

the complications that COULD result?

I have to admit that about 5 years ago I didnt think that i would

even want to think of having the gastric bypass surgery, but i just

couldnt lose the weight no matter what i did!! Even to the extent of

ending up in the ER and being told i was malnourished!! Eye opener

there.

I had my Lap RNY on November 8th, 2006, and I am one of the unlucky

few that did have complications. I had a Ilius and had to go back in

2 days later and be completely opened up. After 3 weeks in the

hospital and another setback with 2 more days in after only being

home for 2 days I have to say that I would do it all again. So many

people die from obesity related problems every day.

Being ticked off isnt going to help. Just think of how much better

you yourself will feel after your surgery!!

Goodluck.

Donna in CO

302/270/130

>

> My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use

to

> live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you

can

> only imagine what all she said to me.

>

> Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

>

> " I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

> autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

> Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision

more

> people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

>

> I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain

decent.

> Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

> still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

> friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

> jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

>

> I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

> right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

> positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

> door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to

better

> her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

> questions.

>

> but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One thing you have to remember too is the surgery has come a long way

since it's early stages. I haven't heard anything about anyone dying

from the surgery for a long time. I think the last I heard was a

doctor here in the Riverside, CA area and he was just a screwed up

doctor with lots and lots of law suits against him. I don't even think

he is in practice anymore and he was my friend who talked me into the

surgery's doctor. She came out ok but lots of others had problems and

are suing him. Another thing you can check your surgeon out on your

state medical board website. My surgeon didn't have any lawsuits or

marks on his record. He did tell me he had 1 patient die out of 2000+

surgeries. The one that died was eating either doritos or pizza 1 week

post-op and it got stuck and he had to be taken back into surgery and

he arrested on the table, so that wasn't the surgeons fault- it was

the patient's fault!! I also have been a nurse for 10 years and

haven't seen anyone who was unhappy they did it. Take Care, in CA

[Guest guest]

I totally agree with you . My mother was against me doing the

surgery too and I said to myself, I am not going to let her

influence my decision or make me scared. I had about 4 friends that

had it done and when I started gathering the info I decided I wanted

to do it too. But until then I was always one of the people that

said " Oh I would never have surgery " Well here I am 1 year post op

and 161 lbs gone and I know thta would not have happened any other

way. Take Care, in CA

[Guest guest]

I have stopped telling some people that I am having the surgery only because I

am faced with their question " WHY? " (they think you have to be only morbidly

obese). My usual reply is " I qualify by my insurance. I don't want to wait

til I am so sick with my diabetes that I cannot do anything about it " . I

shouldn't even have to explain.

I too thought I would never have surgery. But I started seeing more the

reasons why I should have it after seeing some people go through with it. Then

it was a financial decision (insurance deductible for the surgery is $3,000).

My mom (bless her) stepped up and said not to worry about it. I am going to

work hard. Two and half more weeks!

Jackie in CA

iamthinnow iamthinnow@...> wrote:

I totally agree with you . My mother was against me doing the

surgery too and I said to myself, I am not going to let her

influence my decision or make me scared. I had about 4 friends that

had it done and when I started gathering the info I decided I wanted

to do it too. But until then I was always one of the people that

said " Oh I would never have surgery " Well here I am 1 year post op

and 161 lbs gone and I know thta would not have happened any other

way. Take Care, in CA

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[Guest guest]

You go Jackie!!

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[Guest guest]

Tell her you watched an autopsy of someone who died of old age and

she should just commit suicide now to avoid that whole dying of old

age thing.

How stupid to extrapolate one persons' results to someone else or

everyone else.

What sort of stats and logic are they teaching in high school? If my

kids come up to me with this crap after they're 18 I'll slap them

silly.

Mike in GR (SMACK!)

>

> My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use

to

> live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you

can

> only imagine what all she said to me.

>

> Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

>

> " I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

> autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

> Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision

more

> people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

>

> I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain

decent.

> Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

> still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

> friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

> jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

>

> I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

> right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

> positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

> door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to

better

> her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

> questions.

>

> but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Great idea Sherry! She needs to be educated more on it before she judges like I

did. I was afraid of the unknown. Once I saw my friend go through it and got

educated on it, as you see I had the surgery.

sherrya_neal sherrya_neal@...> wrote: ,

Instead of you personally responding to her email. Why not send her

some links via email to Obesity Help and a few others, so she can

read and educate herself on what wls is really about. Noted she may

not use the links, but you could try. She definately has no clue or

she herself would check into it for herself. And why wait to Jan to

quit smoking. Quit Now. Stats show people whom try to quit smoking as

a New Year's resoultion, FAIL. She really needs to get serious about

her own health and stop badgering you about your choice to be

healthy. I hope she comes around, for the sake of your long term

friendship. Sherry

>

> My friend sent me an email, she lives far way from me, where I use

to

> live. I did tell her I was having the surgery and immediately you

can

> only imagine what all she said to me.

>

> Now today she sends me in a email with this comment.

>

> " I was watching Dr G. Medical Exaiminer last night while she did an

> autopsy on a 32 year old woman who had died from complications from

> Gastric by pass " , you should really rethink your decision

more

> people get sick and die from that, then it does good.

>

> I've yet to respond, as I'm still to hot to do so and remain

decent.

> Obviously she is very misinformed, and also, she is 275 lbs, at 5'5 "

> still smokes and has to use a nebulizer to help her. we've been

> friends a long time, since our military days and I know she is a bit

> jealous or something like that. that is why she is so discouraging.

>

> I don't want to hurt her, because I know she is in Weight Watchers

> right now and is planning on quitting smoking in Jan. I want to be

> positive so later on, when she has so much egg on her face, that the

> door for us will still be open and if she decides to do some to

better

> her life she will still feel comfortable coming to me and asking

> questions.

>

> but I just want to get on a plane and strangel her.

>

>

>

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