Re: To Everyone

[Guest guest]

,

Please don't cry or be hard are yourself.....It takes anyone time to

adjust to a change or schedule..You relax, & enjoy Bean, and all your children.

We

all understand completely! I know we will all miss you post, but that will

also make them that much more special when you have a sec to drop in. I was just

asking about you yesterday. Take care & Ill pray for you.

Hugs~Tina (Lyons)

[Guest guest]

,

It is has definatley been a pleasure to know you. I know that I am very new

here but you have been here for a lot of us. You have made us smile, cry

and want to climb into a churn! You are an awesome woman. Go have fun with

your family! We all understand! You are still part of the family!!

Luv,

To everyone

I am crying as I sit here writing this. I love you all, I sincerely hope

you all know that. I regret to have to say this, but I must go on No Mail

for a while. It has nothing to do with anyone in the group, the fact is

staying home and being a full time mom to Bean is just fairly hands-on

and I find it too hard to be online much these days. This doesn't mean I am

going anywhere, I'm always here for ANYONE of you who needs me. You can

reach me at Queenmoderator@.... I am really sorry to have to leave for

a while, and please don't anyone think that " Oh she had her TR baby and now

doesn't need the group. " That is so NOT true! I need all of you! I just

need some time away to focus on my new duties and get a schedule worked out.

I know it may seem like nothing to most people, but I have always worked,

sometimes 3 jobs while my ex husband had none, so being unemployed and

staying home with the kids is brand new to me and it is taking a lot of me

to reconcile mys

elf to the situation. Don't get me wrong, I love being home with all

day, but it is just a different pace than what I am used to.

She is getting so smart, I tell you! I'll look her in the rear view mirror

in the car and say, " I', peekin' at you! " and this morning she said to me,

" Pickle you!! " She was trying to say she was peeking at me, it was just a

special moment!

Terrie, I ask that you take over the Card and Ornament exchanges for me. I

would like to remain on the list for exchanging cards as well as an ornament

with my Ornament Buddy, Vicki Copus. Please include me when you send out

the updated list. I know you'll keep everyone in line and things running

smoothly while I am away. Thank you for being my best friend.

Today is especially hard for me, as 17 years ago this morning I became a mom

for the first time at 7:46am, and this is the first year that my " baby " who

is now actually a young woman, is not here with me.

The migraines have been especially bad lately, no doubt stress in involved,

but I go to my doc tomorrow as well as Bean for her 15 month shots.

She has a nasty head cold which I have been giving her medication for since

the weekend, so I pray she's well enough to get her shots tomorrow.

Thank you to everyone for all of your love and support always. We really

are truly a great group of ladies, and I find that so very wonderful.

Please feel free to e-mail me. I will try to check once a day and I promise

never to ignore anyone. Love to you all.

[Guest guest]

, I will miss not having you around as much but I can

completely understand. The kids are keeping me hoping these days.

Enjoy while she is little, they just grow up too soon. Take

care and hopefully they can do something about those migranes very

soon.

[Guest guest]

Jai..I am glad you are home from the hospital...I haven't been posting much and had to delete a whole bunch of posts yesterday because I have been at my grandparent's house most of the week because my grandfather is dying and we have hospice involved but mostly his 9 kids and 4 of grandkids have been doing all of his care. I hope your hospital stay was helpful for you and got your flare up under control.

..I am sorry that your husbad has pneumonia...I know how he is feeling I just had pneumonia and am still getting over it even though it's been 2 weeks since I was dx with it. Drinking lots of water helps alot and getting plenty of rest...which I haven't been able to do which is why it is still lingering.

Donna...I am sorry you are going through alot yourself...I know you want to do alot for me and aren't able to right now...and that means the world to me. I want you to get better and deal with your mom and getting her better treatment and finding out what is causing all of her problems. I miss you and love you and thanks for just being there when I need to talk.

Barbara...I am glad the ketamine seems to be helping...I know you are going through a hard time right now and wish things were easier on you. I hope this treatment works for you...I know how much you want to get back to work..and I hope this helps enough to make that possible...Big hugs..

...I hope you start feeling better I know you have also been in a bad flare up. I also hope your daughter is doing better with the meds she is on.

Jo...I am so happy that you passed your tests...congrats..I know you put alot of hrs and work to get where you are and I am glad it is starting to pay off. I hope you the best in your new venture.

Debdog...Thanks for all your calls and support even when you are not doing well yourself...You have helped more then you know. Thanks for every thing...you are such a wonderful friend. Love you and big hugs.

Dawn...I am so sorry that you are having such a difficult time...I wish things were better for you. Just hang in there..things will fall in place...you will get your SSDI and w/c and financially you will be alright. I wish they didn't have to do surgery for your back...I know how scary it is to not know which is best for you...to live with the back pain or have the surgery which may make the RSD and MS worse. I am sorry I was sleeping when you called this morning..I would love to talk to you...I miss you and love you and worry about you.

I know I missed some people and I am sorry...I have alot going on..so please forgive me if you didn't get mentioned and I missed an e-mail that was important. Thanks for all your prayers and thoughts for my grandfather and family. My grandmother is having a really hard time with all of this...we will all be taking care of her once my grandfather passes on because I don't think she will be able to live on her own after this. I am glad I have a big family now because everyone is taking shifts so we can get some sleep. I hope all of you have a good weekend...Hugs...Ginnyjaismonkey@... wrote:

Hi everyone!!!

I am finally home from the hospital!! I was in there for 10days YUCK!!I am going to try to read as many posts as I can to try to see what is going on with everyone, I feel so out of touch. I have missed you all. I am exhausted, I will write later and tell you what all happened while I was in the hosp. God bless to all!! Love Jai

[Guest guest]

Jai..I am glad you are home from the hospital...I haven't been posting much and had to delete a whole bunch of posts yesterday because I have been at my grandparent's house most of the week because my grandfather is dying and we have hospice involved but mostly his 9 kids and 4 of grandkids have been doing all of his care. I hope your hospital stay was helpful for you and got your flare up under control.

..I am sorry that your husbad has pneumonia...I know how he is feeling I just had pneumonia and am still getting over it even though it's been 2 weeks since I was dx with it. Drinking lots of water helps alot and getting plenty of rest...which I haven't been able to do which is why it is still lingering.

Donna...I am sorry you are going through alot yourself...I know you want to do alot for me and aren't able to right now...and that means the world to me. I want you to get better and deal with your mom and getting her better treatment and finding out what is causing all of her problems. I miss you and love you and thanks for just being there when I need to talk.

Barbara...I am glad the ketamine seems to be helping...I know you are going through a hard time right now and wish things were easier on you. I hope this treatment works for you...I know how much you want to get back to work..and I hope this helps enough to make that possible...Big hugs..

...I hope you start feeling better I know you have also been in a bad flare up. I also hope your daughter is doing better with the meds she is on.

Jo...I am so happy that you passed your tests...congrats..I know you put alot of hrs and work to get where you are and I am glad it is starting to pay off. I hope you the best in your new venture.

Debdog...Thanks for all your calls and support even when you are not doing well yourself...You have helped more then you know. Thanks for every thing...you are such a wonderful friend. Love you and big hugs.

Dawn...I am so sorry that you are having such a difficult time...I wish things were better for you. Just hang in there..things will fall in place...you will get your SSDI and w/c and financially you will be alright. I wish they didn't have to do surgery for your back...I know how scary it is to not know which is best for you...to live with the back pain or have the surgery which may make the RSD and MS worse. I am sorry I was sleeping when you called this morning..I would love to talk to you...I miss you and love you and worry about you.

I know I missed some people and I am sorry...I have alot going on..so please forgive me if you didn't get mentioned and I missed an e-mail that was important. Thanks for all your prayers and thoughts for my grandfather and family. My grandmother is having a really hard time with all of this...we will all be taking care of her once my grandfather passes on because I don't think she will be able to live on her own after this. I am glad I have a big family now because everyone is taking shifts so we can get some sleep. I hope all of you have a good weekend...Hugs...Ginnyjaismonkey@... wrote:

Hi everyone!!!

I am finally home from the hospital!! I was in there for 10days YUCK!!I am going to try to read as many posts as I can to try to see what is going on with everyone, I feel so out of touch. I have missed you all. I am exhausted, I will write later and tell you what all happened while I was in the hosp. God bless to all!! Love Jai

[Guest guest]

Jai..I am glad you are home from the hospital...I haven't been posting much and had to delete a whole bunch of posts yesterday because I have been at my grandparent's house most of the week because my grandfather is dying and we have hospice involved but mostly his 9 kids and 4 of grandkids have been doing all of his care. I hope your hospital stay was helpful for you and got your flare up under control.

..I am sorry that your husbad has pneumonia...I know how he is feeling I just had pneumonia and am still getting over it even though it's been 2 weeks since I was dx with it. Drinking lots of water helps alot and getting plenty of rest...which I haven't been able to do which is why it is still lingering.

Donna...I am sorry you are going through alot yourself...I know you want to do alot for me and aren't able to right now...and that means the world to me. I want you to get better and deal with your mom and getting her better treatment and finding out what is causing all of her problems. I miss you and love you and thanks for just being there when I need to talk.

Barbara...I am glad the ketamine seems to be helping...I know you are going through a hard time right now and wish things were easier on you. I hope this treatment works for you...I know how much you want to get back to work..and I hope this helps enough to make that possible...Big hugs..

...I hope you start feeling better I know you have also been in a bad flare up. I also hope your daughter is doing better with the meds she is on.

Jo...I am so happy that you passed your tests...congrats..I know you put alot of hrs and work to get where you are and I am glad it is starting to pay off. I hope you the best in your new venture.

Debdog...Thanks for all your calls and support even when you are not doing well yourself...You have helped more then you know. Thanks for every thing...you are such a wonderful friend. Love you and big hugs.

Dawn...I am so sorry that you are having such a difficult time...I wish things were better for you. Just hang in there..things will fall in place...you will get your SSDI and w/c and financially you will be alright. I wish they didn't have to do surgery for your back...I know how scary it is to not know which is best for you...to live with the back pain or have the surgery which may make the RSD and MS worse. I am sorry I was sleeping when you called this morning..I would love to talk to you...I miss you and love you and worry about you.

I know I missed some people and I am sorry...I have alot going on..so please forgive me if you didn't get mentioned and I missed an e-mail that was important. Thanks for all your prayers and thoughts for my grandfather and family. My grandmother is having a really hard time with all of this...we will all be taking care of her once my grandfather passes on because I don't think she will be able to live on her own after this. I am glad I have a big family now because everyone is taking shifts so we can get some sleep. I hope all of you have a good weekend...Hugs...Ginnyjaismonkey@... wrote:

Hi everyone!!!

I am finally home from the hospital!! I was in there for 10days YUCK!!I am going to try to read as many posts as I can to try to see what is going on with everyone, I feel so out of touch. I have missed you all. I am exhausted, I will write later and tell you what all happened while I was in the hosp. God bless to all!! Love Jai

[Guest guest]

Dang, GInny. I'm impressed. You sure are up to snuff on the goings-ons around here. Please know that I continue to pray for you and your family. Thank God for hospice....They soften the edges of such a very sad time. BarbaraGinny Barrientos wrote:

Jai..I am glad you are home from the hospital...I haven't been posting much and had to delete a whole bunch of posts yesterday because I have been at my grandparent's house most of the week because my grandfather is dying and we have hospice involved but mostly his 9 kids and 4 of grandkids have been doing all of his care. I hope your hospital stay was helpful for you and got your flare up under control.

..I am sorry that your husbad has pneumonia...I know how he is feeling I just had pneumonia and am still getting over it even though it's been 2 weeks since I was dx with it. Drinking lots of water helps alot and getting plenty of rest...which I haven't been able to do which is why it is still lingering.

Donna...I am sorry you are going through alot yourself...I know you want to do alot for me and aren't able to right now...and that means the world to me. I want you to get better and deal with your mom and getting her better treatment and finding out what is causing all of her problems. I miss you and love you and thanks for just being there when I need to talk.

Barbara...I am glad the ketamine seems to be helping...I know you are going through a hard time right now and wish things were easier on you. I hope this treatment works for you...I know how much you want to get back to work..and I hope this helps enough to make that possible...Big hugs..

...I hope you start feeling better I know you have also been in a bad flare up. I also hope your daughter is doing better with the meds she is on.

Jo...I am so happy that you passed your tests...congrats..I know you put alot of hrs and work to get where you are and I am glad it is starting to pay off. I hope you the best in your new venture.

Debdog...Thanks for all your calls and support even when you are not doing well yourself...You have helped more then you know. Thanks for every thing...you are such a wonderful friend. Love you and big hugs.

Dawn...I am so sorry that you are having such a difficult time...I wish things were better for you. Just hang in there..things will fall in place...you will get your SSDI and w/c and financially you will be alright. I wish they didn't have to do surgery for your back...I know how scary it is to not know which is best for you...to live with the back pain or have the surgery which may make the RSD and MS worse. I am sorry I was sleeping when you called this morning..I would love to talk to you...I miss you and love you and worry about you.

I know I missed some people and I am sorry...I have alot going on..so please forgive me if you didn't get mentioned and I missed an e-mail that was important. Thanks for all your prayers and thoughts for my grandfather and family. My grandmother is having a really hard time with all of this...we will all be taking care of her once my grandfather passes on because I don't think she will be able to live on her own after this. I am glad I have a big family now because everyone is taking shifts so we can get some sleep. I hope all of you have a good weekend...Hugs...Ginnyjaismonkey@... wrote:

Hi everyone!!!

I am finally home from the hospital!! I was in there for 10days YUCK!!I am going to try to read as many posts as I can to try to see what is going on with everyone, I feel so out of touch. I have missed you all. I am exhausted, I will write later and tell you what all happened while I was in the hosp. God bless to all!! Love Jai

[Guest guest]

>

Ginny

I dont need to tell you that you are in my thoughts day and night.

I'm concerned that when this is over that you are going to be in so

much pain. Please remember to take some time to give back to

yourself even if its just a little.

I will do for you what I can to help ease the pain that is sure to

come.

I miss you verymuch and cant wait to go shopping! YAY LOL But in the

meantime know you are in my thoughts and prayers as is the rest of

your family.

Love you hon

Donna

> Donna...I am sorry you are going through alot yourself...I know

you want to do alot for me and aren't able to right now...and that

means the world to me. I want you to get better and deal with your

mom and getting her better treatment and finding out what is causing

all of her problems. I miss you and love you and thanks for just

being there when I need to talk.

>

[Guest guest]

>

Ginny

I dont need to tell you that you are in my thoughts day and night.

I'm concerned that when this is over that you are going to be in so

much pain. Please remember to take some time to give back to

yourself even if its just a little.

I will do for you what I can to help ease the pain that is sure to

come.

I miss you verymuch and cant wait to go shopping! YAY LOL But in the

meantime know you are in my thoughts and prayers as is the rest of

your family.

Love you hon

Donna

> Donna...I am sorry you are going through alot yourself...I know

you want to do alot for me and aren't able to right now...and that

means the world to me. I want you to get better and deal with your

mom and getting her better treatment and finding out what is causing

all of her problems. I miss you and love you and thanks for just

being there when I need to talk.

>

[Guest guest]

Im so sorry ginny.. if there is anythign i can do other than pray i will gladly i knwo how hard this must be for her adn you.. i wish you all the best adn take care of yourself

cass

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone....I need everyone to start paring for my grandmother and family. My gramother had a heart attack and is in congestive heart failure. She is also in constant atrial fibrilations right now..even though she has a pace maker. She is at home now though because the dr thought that putting her in the hospital would be more stressful to her then going home. Yes this is the same grandmother that just lost her husband of 64 yrs. Ever since my grandfather died my grandmother has been slowly dying of a broken heart...and she is not even fighting to live at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up dying soon. So please continue to keep her and everyone in the family in your thoughts and prayers....Hugs...Ginny__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone....I need everyone to start praying for my grandmother and family. Ever

since my grandfather died my grandmother has been slowly dying of a broken

heart...and she is not even fighting to live at this point. I wouldn't be

surprised if she ends up dying soon. So please continue to keep her and

everyone in the family in your thoughts and prayers....Hugs...Ginny

Ginny,

Please know that your entire family is in

my thoughts and prayers at this time. I know how rough this has to be after

losing your grandfather so recently.

Be at peace Ginny….

Mark

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi everyone....So please continue to keep her and everyone in the

family in your thoughts and prayers....Hugs...Gi

Ginny, My Prayers go out to your Grandmother, you and your Family.

(((((((((Ginny)))))))))Gentle Hugs, JanetM

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone

First let me say, yes all went well, but of course even though baby was born

at 2:16pm yesterday afternoon, she didn't call me. I finally got sick of

waitng and called her cell phone at 5:30 on my way to nathan's baseball

practice. It seems that lo and behold dirtbag wqas there ALL during labor

yesterday, not that she told me he was.

I had spoken to her at 1:00pm yesterday when she called me from the labor

room and she was only 5 cm dilated after being induced at around 10am. But

there she was delivering at 2:16 pm ! She is fine and so is baby.

But iI digress. Will was there; told he he does not want to come back, isa

enjoying his life of smoking, drugging, drinking (12 beers a night he says

and 2 packs of cigarettes and God knows how much pot). Likes how he is living

and doesn't want any responsibility, but he does want to see Emerson sometime

(though he didn't make any true committment there). he left at 6:00pm for

his " counseling " appt he said. His mother was there in the room when I called

at 5:30 and she gave me the 3rd degree about the whereabouts of emerson. I

told her she was with a friend of mine-----wasn't sure what her motivation

was. But she did tell me that K had told her on Easter Sunday that she was

being induced on Thurs and then called her yesterday morn to tell her she

wasn't. that is how Will knew to show up. this after my daughter had sworn to

me

Will didn't know. She had made me concerned that if Will knew she was in the

hosp he might come with the police to try to get Emerson, so all day

yesterday, not knowing if he knew anything, I was paranoid. And all along K

knew he

DID know she wouldn't be here.

Anyway, he has made it quite clear he is not coming back and of course she

is all upset. I, however, have no empathy about her state of mind, because I

do not understand how ANYONE can let someone stay in the same room with her

accusing HER of being untrustworthy. He is complaining that she would go to

the mall without telling him and would go grocery shopping without telling him

while he was out working-------------bringing in those big bucks of $300 per

week . $150 per week of which she was giving him back for his pot habit.

I was unable to write sooner because K forgot to pay her phone bill so I

couldn't use the computer. And since I was staying here because of tEmerson, I

was unable to write.

Since she is such a mess, they are putting Zoloft. Anyone have any

experience with this drug?

Will write again later.

Jean

[Guest guest]

I just read my last post. Hope someone can understnad it. I meant they are

putting her on zoloft. She saw the staff psychiatrist and the chaplin, a

woman, who said God NEVER expects us to put up with abuse-----emotional or

physical and the shrink told her she must NOT take his insults and criticism

and

if he comes back to see her, she should have him throiwn out and that with

therapy, he would expect that she will learn to not be a doormat9his choice of

words)

[Guest guest]

Also, K was going to name the baby Liam (ish for Will). Now she is

looking for other names. She likes different names. Anyone have any

ideas??????????

Shrink also told her that Will fits the personality behavior like a glove

for the true drug addict. Says his behavior is classic drug user. BUT STILL

SHE LOVES HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why?????????????

[Guest guest]

Jean,

I guess congratulations to you, grandmother again. Whether you get

involved with this one is up to you. I'm glad everyone is fine. The zoloft, we

have depression in my family,

my dad, me, and my daughter. It worked well for me while I was on it,

stopped taking it when ex moved out !! HEHE! Imagine that. Anyway, did NOT

work

well for . Because of her disorders, the zoloft worked opposite on her

and made her more depressed.

She had more morbid thoughts, so I weaned her off. She felt much better off

of them.

So I'm guessing K had no problems with the procedure. How long is she

staying there?

I would think maybe you are looking for a reprieve by now. Boy is she going

to have a handful when she gets home. Good you have such a good relationship

with the boys.

I doubt dirtbag is going to do anything. AT least K can go petition for

support now on the two babies, they will garnish his wages from probate.

Hang in there! And I'm glad all is well.

DebbieL

[Guest guest]

Great, I hope she doesn't have the opposite side effects and gets more

depressed. She is prone to post partum depression as it is.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/21/2006 1:52:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cascorsam@... writes:

Also, K was going to name the baby Liam (ish for Will). Now she is

looking for other names. She likes different names. Anyone have any

ideas??????????

Shrink also told her that Will fits the personality behavior like a glove

for the true drug addict. Says his behavior is classic drug user. BUT

STILL

SHE LOVES HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why?????????????

Jean,

I love the name Liam. But, seems it might not fit her situation now. Will

doesn't deserve a namesake. She has two boys, and and the

girl Emerson. Find another one starts with " N " for all the boys, or one starts

with " E " . I like the name " Evan " .

[Guest guest]

I like the name, Grant

[Guest guest]

Jean,

Prayers and blessings to you.

I'm glad you and made it through. I'm sad did not call you --

she is not herself right now. Didn't know how worried you are.

It sounds like the nurses overheard Will -- good! I hope he stays away from

her. Maybe sound counseling will get through to her that he loves his addiction

more than her. He also sounds very immature, not ready to grow up. Guess he

didn't know about birth control.....

Carol

-------------- Original message --------------

From: funnygirl1154@...

> In a message dated 4/21/2006 1:52:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> cascorsam@... writes:

> Also, K was going to name the baby Liam (ish for Will). Now she is

> looking for other names. She likes different names. Anyone have any

> ideas??????????

>

> Shrink also told her that Will fits the personality behavior like a glove

> for the true drug addict. Says his behavior is classic drug user. BUT

> STILL

> SHE LOVES HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why?????????????

> Jean,

>

> I love the name Liam. But, seems it might not fit her situation now. Will

> doesn't deserve a namesake. She has two boys, and and the

> girl Emerson. Find another one starts with " N " for all the boys, or one starts

> with " E " . I like the name " Evan " .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What a relief,I hope you get some sleep at some point. I like Debbie's

suggestions for Evan, that is so cute for a girl. I'm glad to hear a

psychiatrist was called in, did she and the chaplin appear because of a doctor

or nurse's request? Just wondering what they witnessed while Will was there.

I think starting an anti-depressant is a good idea, with all she is going

through right now it could really trigger the post partum depression. Remember

I told you I had it so bad the first time I had psychotic episodes. I have

never been so afraid in all my life. Screw Tom Cruise!!!!! Thank God for

medication...... I didn't hurt my child (of course now she is screwed up and I

always wonder if she subconsciously picked up these vibes from me).

As far as Will, in a warped way I can still kind of understand why she wanted

him there... she was holding out hope. There was a period of time (even though

very short) where they had some normalcy and let's face it, she loved him. I

put up with alot from my ex, why did I do it? I loved him, simple as that. It

wasn't until I saw it affecting my children that I could get the strength to

say adios. And I don't consider myself crazy or BPD. There are days when I

miss terribly, but that's the time I can only remember the good things.

Absence can do that.

I wish we all lived closer too. It's funny how you can make such close

friends and never meet face to face. I'm going to be in RI this summer and

would love to look you up.

Take it one day at a time,

cascorsam@... wrote: Also, K was going to name the baby Liam

(ish for Will). Now she is

looking for other names. She likes different names. Anyone have any

ideas??????????

Shrink also told her that Will fits the personality behavior like a glove

for the true drug addict. Says his behavior is classic drug user. BUT STILL

SHE LOVES HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why?????????????

[Guest guest]

I've always loved the name Ethan.

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2006 1:52:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> cascorsam@... writes:

> Also, K was going to name the baby Liam (ish for Will). Now

she is

> looking for other names. She likes different names. Anyone have any

> ideas??????????

>

> Shrink also told her that Will fits the personality behavior like a

glove

> for the true drug addict. Says his behavior is classic drug user.

BUT

> STILL

> SHE LOVES HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why?????????????

> Jean,

>

> I love the name Liam. But, seems it might not fit her situation

now. Will

> doesn't deserve a namesake. She has two boys, and

and the

> girl Emerson. Find another one starts with " N " for all the boys, or

one starts

> with " E " . I like the name " Evan " .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Krisitn is leaning toward Hayden, but thanks to you and everyone else with

the imput for names.

She continues to be mooning over the dirtbag. I should have stayed with my

first instincts about this jerk. He came to see her and the baby last night

in the hospital and spent the time he was there arguing with her, insulting

her and putting her down, telling her " SHE " cannot be trusted and that she had

no right to call the police that 1st week end that he left when she reported

him missing. Now bear in mind, he had left her a voice mail message telling

her he was going to be " late " getting home and that he loved her. I guess

by " late " he meant over 24 hours. Because the police told her, considering

the vm message, they advised her to file a missing persons' report. But Will's

take on this (in his infinite stupidity) was that if the police had fopund

him, they would have searched him and found coccaine on him and THIS would

have been krisitn's fault. So, in his thinking, she doesn't love him because

she filed the report. God knows he is NOT responsible for having the drugs on

him and using them. But I am getting more insight into him aftert talking to

his mother the other night. The woman produced 4 kids, every one with drug

problems, the girl sleeps with whoever has money so they will give her extra

money, has never held a job in her life and has a 3 yr old who is

developmentally disaabled and she collects SSI. Would someone tell me WHY SSI

is paid

to parents of kids with learning disabilities ??????????? Are the kids unable

to work?????

When I talked to her, she told me krisitn sghould not go back to work, that

she should stay home and collect welfare. After I almost choked, I said, I

really don't think welfare is goping to pay her $2200 mo mortgage, do you?

Ane perhaps YOUR son might consider paying child support, don't you think??

her response was that should not be living in such a house, that she

raised 4 kids (such as they are) and lived in an apt. And perhaps those bills

are want stressed poor Will and sent him back to drugs. Ity appears that my

daughter was rioght, this woman has raised her kids to always be victims and

to never take responsibility for their own lives. This jerk not only has a

drug problem, he has a values problem----------his mother raised him with NO

values.

How does my daughter get around that? He values nothing and she wants nice

things. Even if he had no drug problem, this is not the person for my

daughter to have married unless she will be happy living in section 8 housing

with

him and 4 kids.

Jean

[Guest guest]

If we are talking about names starting with " E " how about Eva? very powerful

name and prettier than Eve.

MOH

Laurel zephira@...> wrote:

I've always loved the name Ethan.

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2006 1:52:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> cascorsam@... writes:

> Also, K was going to name the baby Liam (ish for Will). Now

she is

> looking for other names. She likes different names. Anyone have any

> ideas??????????

>

> Shrink also told her that Will fits the personality behavior like a

glove

> for the true drug addict. Says his behavior is classic drug user.

BUT

> STILL

> SHE LOVES HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why?????????????

> Jean,

>

> I love the name Liam. But, seems it might not fit her situation

now. Will

> doesn't deserve a namesake. She has two boys, and

and the

> girl Emerson. Find another one starts with " N " for all the boys, or

one starts

> with " E " . I like the name " Evan " .

>

>

>