Re: Speaking of Cruises.....

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Good. Glad to hear she is doing well. I know the holidays are a rough

time for her. Glad this year is better! She deserves it!

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tune1552@... wrote:

> She is doing good.....she is smelling the roses this year...She is having a

good time this year with the kids....I hope she comes back to us soon!

>

> Mike T

>

>

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I guess we will have to opt for carving a canoe out of donated wood

and setting up trips for the cost of beef jerky and bottled water!

>

> After my protracted divorce I couldn't finance my way out of a

paper

> bag.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Okay, I am going on a seven nights cruise in the first week

of

> > Feb.

> > > I

> > > > am still in the rapid weight loss phase, so I will wait to

buy

> > > outfits

> > > > a few days prior to the cruise (yes, newbies, I said a few

days

> > > > prior;you can't imagine how fast the weight falls off!)...I

> plan

> > to

> > > > have all my vitamins ready to go and a few protien

> > > > supplements/shakes...does anyone have suggestions for eating

> > while on

> > > > the ship? I am hoping to find something...anything else I

> > should

> > > > pack? lisamathis

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks , I'm going in Feb. I will post all about it!

lisamathis

[Guest guest]

Mike T, Will you marry me?

> Mike,

> This is why marriage scares the HELL out of me.....I like my

money and my house and my retirement and all that good stuff that

you lose in California........

>

> Mike T

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " Mike "

>

> > After my protracted divorce I couldn't finance my way out of a

paper

> > bag.

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay, I am going on a seven nights cruise in the first

week of

> > > Feb.

> > > > I

> > > > > am still in the rapid weight loss phase, so I will wait to

buy

> > > > outfits

> > > > > a few days prior to the cruise (yes, newbies, I said a few

days

> > > > > prior;you can't imagine how fast the weight falls

off!)...I

> > plan

> > > to

> > > > > have all my vitamins ready to go and a few protien

> > > > > supplements/shakes...does anyone have suggestions for

eating

> > > while on

> > > > > the ship? I am hoping to find something...anything else I

> > > should

> > > > > pack? lisamathis

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > We are a very active support group.

> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > Please contact Group Creator

> > Robyn@...

> >

> >

> >

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LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> AMEN to that Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh but if the jerk could see me

> now!!!!!!!~ in CA

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay, I am going on a seven nights cruise in the first

week

> of

> > > Feb.

> > > > I

> > > > > am still in the rapid weight loss phase, so I will wait to

> buy

> > > > outfits

> > > > > a few days prior to the cruise (yes, newbies, I said a few

> days

> > > > > prior;you can't imagine how fast the weight falls

off!)...I

> > plan

> > > to

> > > > > have all my vitamins ready to go and a few protien

> > > > > supplements/shakes...does anyone have suggestions for

eating

> > > while on

> > > > > the ship? I am hoping to find something...anything else I

> > > should

> > > > > pack? lisamathis

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah no problem......LOL......

Mike T

Re: Speaking of Cruises.....

> Mike T, Will you marry me?

>

>

>

>

>> Mike,

>> This is why marriage scares the HELL out of me.....I like my

> money and my house and my retirement and all that good stuff that

> you lose in California........

>>

>> Mike T

>>

>> -------------- Original message --------------

>> From: " Mike "

>>

>> > After my protracted divorce I couldn't finance my way out of a

> paper

>> > bag.

>> >

>> >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Okay, I am going on a seven nights cruise in the first

> week of

>> > > Feb.

>> > > > I

>> > > > > am still in the rapid weight loss phase, so I will wait to

> buy

>> > > > outfits

>> > > > > a few days prior to the cruise (yes, newbies, I said a few

> days

>> > > > > prior;you can't imagine how fast the weight falls

> off!)...I

>> > plan

>> > > to

>> > > > > have all my vitamins ready to go and a few protien

>> > > > > supplements/shakes...does anyone have suggestions for

> eating

>> > > while on

>> > > > > the ship? I am hoping to find something...anything else I

>> > > should

>> > > > > pack? lisamathis

>> > > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > We are a very active support group.

>> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

>> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

>> > Please contact Group Creator

>> > Robyn@...

>> >

>> >

>> >

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You are paying $250 a week? My ex pays $293 for 2 kids per month!!

Crazy I know I should go back to court. in CA

> > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball scrimage. I hear

she

> > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts for me

because

> > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel comfortable

buying

> > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's having

discomfort

> > spending money on at least some clothing considering how much I

pay

> > in child support.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

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Yep. It sucks. We do good to make ends meet most of the time. He pays

a lot more than he should. Not that his girls don't deserve it. They

do; but when we can't pay the bills it's time to do something about it.

I'm lucky to get $60 a week from my ex for 1 kid. The only way I get it

is when the state takes it from his check automatically. And TN has

changed the way they figure child support to make it more fair for both

parents. They take into account both incomes (custodial & non

custodial) and how much time is spent w/ both parents.

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iamthinnow wrote:

> You are paying $250 a week? My ex pays $293 for 2 kids per month!!

> Crazy I know I should go back to court. in CA

>

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Hi , They do the same thing here in CA and since my ex has 3 or

4 more kids I figure it won't do me any good to ask for more. For

all I know they could make it less! They have to take it from his

check too. He hasn't seen my kids ages 12& 14 in almost 11 years! It

is better that way anyways. Ok enough venting from me. Take Care,

in CA

> > You are paying $250 a week? My ex pays $293 for 2 kids per

month!!

> > Crazy I know I should go back to court. in CA

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That's so sad he hasn't seen them in that long. It's his loss! :-)

That's what suprises me about Kelsey's dad...that he's not more a part

of her life than he is. His dad left when he was just 2 mos old. He

never knew him. You'd think he'd want to be better than that. I'm not

saying he's a horrible dad; but he leaves a lot to be desired. His

biggest problem is the wives he's had. He lets them interfere w/ his

relationship w/ Kelsey. She's finally starting to see that w/ the

latest wife. I hate it for her. It's not fair to her.

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iamthinnow wrote:

> Hi , They do the same thing here in CA and since my ex has 3 or

> 4 more kids I figure it won't do me any good to ask for more. For

> all I know they could make it less! They have to take it from his

> check too. He hasn't seen my kids ages 12& 14 in almost 11 years! It

> is better that way anyways. Ok enough venting from me. Take Care,

> in CA

[Guest guest]

Marriage and changing everything now scares me too, but I am a firm believer

that love is worth taking chances. I also believe in seperate checking accounts

and 50/50 as much as possible. That includes house cleaning hahahaha. I can

appreciate the fear of losing everything though. You spend your life trying to

make a comfortable life and then leave it for someone to take it. I couldn't

imagine doing that to someone. When I left my ex, I took what was mine when we

got together and walked and left him our house and all that was in it, including

the cars that were in both our names. I wasn't married to him, but all that

seperated us from that was a piece of paper. He worked hard for these items and

I wasn't going to do that to him, even though he was an ass. I wouldn't want

someone to do that to me. I even gave him back the rings he baught me. I told

him I knew I wouldn't ware them anymore and since he baught them, I wanted him

to do what he wanted with them. I think it is

terrible to end things fighting over material and money we can't take with us

when we die.

lisamathis76 lisamathis76@...> wrote:

Mike T, Will you marry me?

> Mike,

> This is why marriage scares the HELL out of me.....I like my

money and my house and my retirement and all that good stuff that

you lose in California........

>

> Mike T

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " Mike "

>

> > After my protracted divorce I couldn't finance my way out of a

paper

> > bag.

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay, I am going on a seven nights cruise in the first

week of

> > > Feb.

> > > > I

> > > > > am still in the rapid weight loss phase, so I will wait to

buy

> > > > outfits

> > > > > a few days prior to the cruise (yes, newbies, I said a few

days

> > > > > prior;you can't imagine how fast the weight falls

off!)...I

> > plan

> > > to

> > > > > have all my vitamins ready to go and a few protien

> > > > > supplements/shakes...does anyone have suggestions for

eating

> > > while on

> > > > > the ship? I am hoping to find something...anything else I

> > > should

> > > > > pack? lisamathis

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > We are a very active support group.

> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > Please contact Group Creator

> > Robyn@...

> >

> >

> >

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I agree w/ everything but the separate checking. LOL! We did that and

it was a pain! I do all the checkbook stuff & to keep my sanity we put

it into 1 account. But he does do A LOT around the house. I'm very

thankful for that. He'll vacuum. Help w/ laundry. Clean bathrooms.

Take out trash. Etc. And he's very handy. Anything needs fixing he

can usually fix it. :-) I have a great guy! I have a friend who is

always bitching about what her hubby doesn't do. They've been married

for about 8 years or so now I think. I am always telling her to kick

his ass to the curb. LOL! He doesn't do anything because she lets him

get away w/ it. And as long as she does that he'll sit on his ass doing

nothing. I stayed a few days at their house once. He wouldn't even

dress his daughter after her bath. How pathetic is that?

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Shauna Thalman wrote:

> Marriage and changing everything now scares me too, but I am a firm believer

that love is worth taking chances. I also believe in seperate checking accounts

and 50/50 as much as possible. That includes house cleaning hahahaha. I can

appreciate the fear of losing everything though. You spend your life trying to

make a comfortable life and then leave it for someone to take it. I couldn't

imagine doing that to someone. When I left my ex, I took what was mine when we

got together and walked and left him our house and all that was in it, including

the cars that were in both our names. I wasn't married to him, but all that

seperated us from that was a piece of paper. He worked hard for these items and

I wasn't going to do that to him, even though he was an ass. I wouldn't want

someone to do that to me. I even gave him back the rings he baught me. I told

him I knew I wouldn't ware them anymore and since he baught them, I wanted him

to do what he wanted with them. I think it is

> terrible to end things fighting over material and money we can't take with us

when we die.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah I see what you are saying about the checking, I guess that is something to

work out with my partner on what would be best. I am just saying I am willing to

do whatever it takes to protect BOTH of us, not just me. I love a man that is

willing to lend a hand and help where needed. I would surly show the loyalty,

after all, isn't that showing love?

Woodard alittleisenough@...> wrote: I agree w/ everything

but the separate checking. LOL! We did that and

it was a pain! I do all the checkbook stuff & to keep my sanity we put

it into 1 account. But he does do A LOT around the house. I'm very

thankful for that. He'll vacuum. Help w/ laundry. Clean bathrooms.

Take out trash. Etc. And he's very handy. Anything needs fixing he

can usually fix it. :-) I have a great guy! I have a friend who is

always bitching about what her hubby doesn't do. They've been married

for about 8 years or so now I think. I am always telling her to kick

his ass to the curb. LOL! He doesn't do anything because she lets him

get away w/ it. And as long as she does that he'll sit on his ass doing

nothing. I stayed a few days at their house once. He wouldn't even

dress his daughter after her bath. How pathetic is that?

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Shauna Thalman wrote:

> Marriage and changing everything now scares me too, but I am a firm believer

that love is worth taking chances. I also believe in seperate checking accounts

and 50/50 as much as possible. That includes house cleaning hahahaha. I can

appreciate the fear of losing everything though. You spend your life trying to

make a comfortable life and then leave it for someone to take it. I couldn't

imagine doing that to someone. When I left my ex, I took what was mine when we

got together and walked and left him our house and all that was in it, including

the cars that were in both our names. I wasn't married to him, but all that

seperated us from that was a piece of paper. He worked hard for these items and

I wasn't going to do that to him, even though he was an ass. I wouldn't want

someone to do that to me. I even gave him back the rings he baught me. I told

him I knew I wouldn't ware them anymore and since he baught them, I wanted him

to do what he wanted with them. I think it is

> terrible to end things fighting over material and money we can't take with us

when we die.

>

>

>

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WHO? ME?!? I would NEVER do such a thing. See, that's why Mike T needs to move

here to PA. Then there is nothing to worry about hahahaha

tune1552@... wrote: HAAA......LOL.....Thats what they all say!!

LOL.........

Mike T

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> LOL! Shauna wouldn't do that to you. ;-) Did I say that outloud?

>

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> tune1552@... wrote:

> > Mike,

> > This is why marriage scares the HELL out of me.....I like my money and my

> house and my retirement and all that good stuff that you lose in

> California........

> >

> > Mike T

> >

>

>

>

> We are a very active support group.

> If the email becomes overwhelming,

> please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> Please contact Group Creator

> Robyn@...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

$293 a month for 2 kids. That's crazy! My daughter gets $110 a week

for my grandson. How do you make ends meet?

Liz B

> > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball scrimage. I hear

> she

> > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts for me

> because

> > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel comfortable

> buying

> > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's having

> discomfort

> > > spending money on at least some clothing considering how much I

> pay

> > > in child support.

> > >

> > > Mike in GR

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My ex-wife gets about $1000 a month from me for our two kids and I

see them ever day except for four days each month. Half summers too.

She's also working her Fridays too which is shameful in my mind. How

do I make ends meet?!

Mike in GR (broke living in a box built in 1890)

> > > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball scrimage. I

hear

> > she

> > > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts for me

> > because

> > > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel comfortable

> > buying

> > > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's having

> > discomfort

> > > > spending money on at least some clothing considering how much

I

> > pay

> > > > in child support.

> > > >

> > > > Mike in GR

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No wonder your the rain check/Sale king!! Sorry Mike, that is what scares

me!

Mike T

Re: Speaking of Cruises.....

> My ex-wife gets about $1000 a month from me for our two kids and I

> see them ever day except for four days each month. Half summers too.

> She's also working her Fridays too which is shameful in my mind. How

> do I make ends meet?!

>

> Mike in GR (broke living in a box built in 1890)

>

>

>> > > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball scrimage. I

> hear

>> > she

>> > > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts for me

>> > because

>> > > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel comfortable

>> > buying

>> > > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's having

>> > discomfort

>> > > > spending money on at least some clothing considering how much

> I

>> > pay

>> > > > in child support.

>> > > >

>> > > > Mike in GR

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

> We are a very active support group.

> If the email becomes overwhelming,

> please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> Please contact Group Creator

> Robyn@...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We feel your pain!!! But you're a great dad! Your kids are very lucky

from what I've seen/read. :-)

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Mike wrote:

> My ex-wife gets about $1000 a month from me for our two kids and I

> see them ever day except for four days each month. Half summers too.

> She's also working her Fridays too which is shameful in my mind. How

> do I make ends meet?!

>

> Mike in GR (broke living in a box built in 1890)

>

[Guest guest]

Child support isn't so serious and theoretically benefits my kids.

That has an end date too. I'm not sure I could ever cope with idea of

alimony though.

> >> > > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball scrimage. I

> > hear

> >> > she

> >> > > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts for

me

> >> > because

> >> > > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel

comfortable

> >> > buying

> >> > > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's having

> >> > discomfort

> >> > > > spending money on at least some clothing considering how

much

> > I

> >> > pay

> >> > > > in child support.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Mike in GR

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > We are a very active support group.

> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > Please contact Group Creator

> > Robyn@...

> >

> >

> >

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I wish more men felt the same way about child support. It's a shame

that they don't. Like you said it benefits the kids.

> > >> > > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball

scrimage. I

> > > hear

> > >> > she

> > >> > > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts

for

> me

> > >> > because

> > >> > > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel

> comfortable

> > >> > buying

> > >> > > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's having

> > >> > discomfort

> > >> > > > spending money on at least some clothing considering

how

> much

> > > I

> > >> > pay

> > >> > > > in child support.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Mike in GR

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > We are a very active support group.

> > > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > > Please contact Group Creator

> > > Robyn@

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

THEORETICALLY it does. While I do often enjoy not having to fret

about purchasing clothing and some other things for my kids I still

end up doing it sometimes and experience frequest issues with their

clothing or other stuff being the wrong size, not where I need it or

not appropriate. These times of knowing I'm paying that much and

essentially have no control to fix the situation other than to throw

more money at it, which solves nothing permanently, can be maddening.

> > > >> > > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball

> scrimage. I

> > > > hear

> > > >> > she

> > > >> > > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts

> for

> > me

> > > >> > because

> > > >> > > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel

> > comfortable

> > > >> > buying

> > > >> > > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's

having

> > > >> > discomfort

> > > >> > > > spending money on at least some clothing considering

> how

> > much

> > > > I

> > > >> > pay

> > > >> > > > in child support.

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > Mike in GR

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > >

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > We are a very active support group.

> > > > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > > > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > > > Please contact Group Creator

> > > > Robyn@

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I know somebody that went as far as to change his social security number,

and pretty much vanish from the face of the planet in order to not pay!

Mike T

Re: Speaking of Cruises.....

>I wish more men felt the same way about child support. It's a shame

> that they don't. Like you said it benefits the kids.

>

>

>

>> > >> > > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball

> scrimage. I

>> > > hear

>> > >> > she

>> > >> > > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts

> for

>> me

>> > >> > because

>> > >> > > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel

>> comfortable

>> > >> > buying

>> > >> > > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's having

>> > >> > discomfort

>> > >> > > > spending money on at least some clothing considering

> how

>> much

>> > > I

>> > >> > pay

>> > >> > > > in child support.

>> > >> > > >

>> > >> > > > Mike in GR

>> > >> > > >

>> > >> > >

>> > >> >

>> > >>

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > We are a very active support group.

>> > > If the email becomes overwhelming,

>> > > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

>> > > Please contact Group Creator

>> > > Robyn@

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

[Guest guest]

How does that saying go........ " its cheaper to run her over with your

truck " .......I know its something like that....LOL

Mike T

Re: Speaking of Cruises.....

> Child support isn't so serious and theoretically benefits my kids.

> That has an end date too. I'm not sure I could ever cope with idea of

> alimony though.

>

>

>> >> > > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball scrimage. I

>> > hear

>> >> > she

>> >> > > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas gifts for

> me

>> >> > because

>> >> > > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel

> comfortable

>> >> > buying

>> >> > > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's having

>> >> > discomfort

>> >> > > > spending money on at least some clothing considering how

> much

>> > I

>> >> > pay

>> >> > > > in child support.

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Mike in GR

>> >> > > >

>> >> > >

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > We are a very active support group.

>> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

>> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

>> > Please contact Group Creator

>> > Robyn@...

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

You can't go into a relationship expecting the worst tho Mike. Do you

want to live your life in fear of a divorce? I'd rather take a chance &

love someone. :-)

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Mike Tune wrote:

> No wonder your the rain check/Sale king!! Sorry Mike, that is what scares

> me!

>

> Mike T

>

[Guest guest]

I can see how this can be maddening for u and other men like

yourself who are doing the right thing.

Liz B

> > > > >> > > > My ex saw me last night at my son's basketball

> > scrimage. I

> > > > > hear

> > > > >> > she

> > > > >> > > > had a tough time shopping with my kids for xmas

gifts

> > for

> > > me

> > > > >> > because

> > > > >> > > > she didn't know my size. It seems she didn't feel

> > > comfortable

> > > > >> > buying

> > > > >> > > > me only an XL sweatshirt. It's nice to hear she's

> having

> > > > >> > discomfort

> > > > >> > > > spending money on at least some clothing

considering

> > how

> > > much

> > > > > I

> > > > >> > pay

> > > > >> > > > in child support.

> > > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > > > Mike in GR

> > > > >> > > >

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> >

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > We are a very active support group.

> > > > > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > > > > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > > > > Please contact Group Creator

> > > > > Robyn@

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