Re: Peri-Meno SUCKS! Am I the lone ranger?

January 18, 2005

Well, we are a group of two!! LOL. I am tired even this morning upon

waking--not sleepy tired, just physically tired. I keep thinking:

WHAT is causing this? I'm impatient, too. Because I figure it's

either the progesterone is not high enough yet, or it's my low

testosterone. I'm working on both, but I WANT THE RESULTS TO HURRY

UP!!

Your symptoms do sound like you are not on enough Armour. You and I

are close---I do 3 grains during the day, and 1/4 grain at night.

I'm on an optimal dose, though, it appears. What I'm going through

is something else. By the way, I had a period Dec. 2nd, then had one

on the 21st, which I presume was because of taking higher doses of

progesterone beginning the week previous. NOW I've not had one

since, but so notice hormonal " swings " . WAHHHHH. This is the part

where I would want to be MALE!!!!!! Let's see--for one week out of

each month, I could change my name to JAMES so prevent a period,

then revert back to JANIE. But then, with all this female hormonal

Peri mess, I will need to be JAMES for quite awhile.

You'll like what happens to you on the testosterone. grin, grin. How

much are you on again?

JAMES

>

> All of a sudden I have no period at all! I am once again

experiencing joint pain, cold hands, tiredness...and

tonight....cramps!!!!!!! I started testosterone cream 2 days ago

due to low sex drive and will be going in next Monday for some blood

work. I had started to feel so much better. Now, I don't want to

cook, do any kind of housework or even go to work (though I do).

>

> I am on 3 grains of Armour and started adding 1/2 grain at bedtime

last night.....

>

> I think I am joining you in the peri side of life....*sigh*

>

January 18, 2005

Janie, when in Estrogen dominance, it will EAT your thyroid meds! Definitely

need to get your progesterone up. I also found that though I needed the

Estrogen, I had to increase my already high thyroid meds more!

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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January 18, 2005

I think I have been taking enough to compensate for the estrogen

binding that's been going on--or at least my free T3 labs show

that. Maybe I'll experiment anyway and up another 1/4 grain. I'm

hesitant since I'm getting palps again, tho. ARGHHHHHHHHHHH. Meno is

SCREWING ME UP!!!

JAMES

> Janie, when in Estrogen dominance, it will EAT your thyroid meds!

Definitely need to get your progesterone up. I also found that

though I needed the Estrogen, I had to increase my already high

thyroid meds more!

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

>

January 18, 2005

Janie,

I seem to recall you were using testosterone as a supplement...and getting

great results. But recently some people in the medical community have

suggested long term use of it may cause heart problems. I assumed this was

just a way for the FDA to refuse to allow doctors to give women

testosterone patches...but what if there is a grain of truth to this? Do

you still use Testosterone? And if so, is it possible your body needs less

of it now than when you started ?

At 06:01 AM 1/18/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>Is anyone else identifying with my experience? Ever since I had my

>last period last Dec. 2nd, and then 2 weeks later, discovered that

>my progesterone was LOW and my estrogen high, I've felt like crap.

>

>Now granted, I am not achy anymore like I was a FULL month from Dec.

>2nd to Jan. 2nd. And, I am not QUITE as tired during the day. But I

>still crash in a major way at night when I get home from the store.

>ARGHHH.

>

>And, I've had episodes of palping. I was palping nearly every day in

>Dec. I stopped about 1 1/2 weeks ago, only to resume yesterday. Grrr.

>

>I'm on approx. 75 mgs of progesterone cream a day. My thyroid is

>excellent. Ferritin is excellent. (Am waiting on my adrenal results

>to come in. Sent them in over 18 days ago.) It all has to be related

>to peri!! But I SURE WISH I could get PAST this!! Am due for a

>follow-up appointment with NP on Feb. 14th.

>

>Janie the PERI QUEEN

>

>Janie

>

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>

January 18, 2005

>

> I think I have been taking enough to compensate for the estrogen

> binding that's been going on--or at least my free T3 labs show

> that. Maybe I'll experiment anyway and up another 1/4 grain. I'm

> hesitant since I'm getting palps again, tho. ARGHHHHHHHHHHH. Meno

is

> SCREWING ME UP!!!

>

> JAMES

, he he, I wonder if you could be getting palps from adrenal

issues? I am pretty sure my glandular causes me some problems with

my heartbeat and pulse. Just a thought. Also, I have read in a few

places that NORMAL perimenopause involves periods of fatigue. How

is a person supposed to know what normal is in the midst of all the

change? An interesting book is Yoga and the Wisdom of Menopause by

Suza Francina. Even if you are not interested in yoga, it has

several stories by women who have gone through menopause, which I

found helpful.

R.

>

> > Janie, when in Estrogen dominance, it will EAT your thyroid

meds!

> Definitely need to get your progesterone up. I also found that

> though I needed the Estrogen, I had to increase my already high

> thyroid meds more!

> > *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

> >

January 18, 2005

Yup, that hits it on the spot. Is what I am gong through NORMAL, or

not?? And if it's normal, WHAT THE HECK can I do? grrrr. Hopefully,

I'll find more relief the longer I am on progesterone. I have also

read that palps are common. But again, I don't know since we

thyroid/adrenal patients have palps for MANY reasons. GRRRR.

, not Janie

> , he he, I wonder if you could be getting palps from adrenal

> issues? I am pretty sure my glandular causes me some problems

with my heartbeat and pulse. Just a thought. Also, I have read in

a few places that NORMAL perimenopause involves periods of fatigue.

How is a person supposed to know what normal is in the midst of all

the change?

January 18, 2005

Yup, sounds like you need to go more slowly......and make sure other

issues are going good.

> I am so impatient that I upped my dose another 1/2 grain two

nights ago and woke up with a pounding heart, headache and feeling

totally lousy today. So, tonight I will 1/4 grain it as I am sure I

am still very hypo.

January 19, 2005

Welcome to the World of PeriMeno Changes Janie. I could bet that I've been

in this since I was around 30 yrs old (no progesterone found in my body at

around that age), and I am now 53. I'm on progesterone cream, but could bet

that I now need estrogen to go with it. I need the testing too, though I

know what the progesterone part is going to say, zilch, nada. I love being

a woman, but if the guys had to go through all this, there would be massive

worldwide suicide. Mine has been so pronounced probably because I went off

of the horse estrogen stuff yrs ago, and I simply won't take that form of

it. I'm looking at the oestrogel now, but I know I need the saliva testing

on that first before I make that leap. If money only grew on trees. My hot

flashes stopped for about a yr, at one point. Why they stopped, I don't

know, but they picked up the pace again starting back a couple of yrs ago.

Yes, I identify.

Peri-Meno SUCKS! Am I the lone ranger?

>

> Is anyone else identifying with my experience? Ever since I had my

> last period last Dec. 2nd, and then 2 weeks later, discovered that

> my progesterone was LOW and my estrogen high, I've felt like crap.

>

> Now granted, I am not achy anymore like I was a FULL month from Dec.

> 2nd to Jan. 2nd. And, I am not QUITE as tired during the day. But I

> still crash in a major way at night when I get home from the store.

> ARGHHH.

>

> And, I've had episodes of palping. I was palping nearly every day in

> Dec. I stopped about 1 1/2 weeks ago, only to resume yesterday. Grrr.

>

> I'm on approx. 75 mgs of progesterone cream a day. My thyroid is

> excellent. Ferritin is excellent. (Am waiting on my adrenal results

> to come in. Sent them in over 18 days ago.) It all has to be related

> to peri!! But I SURE WISH I could get PAST this!! Am due for a

> follow-up appointment with NP on Feb. 14th.