Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental Health are Un...

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In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:19:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

LestatL382@... writes:

> Hypothyroidism, however, had a significant

> impact, dramatically increasing the risk for what they

> termed " critical mood deterioration

critical mood deterioration?...yea, i had that....but i just called it

" feeling like crap " ....critical mood deterioration sounds much more important.

as in " hey doc...I've had some critical mood deterioration recently. "

I amuse myself sometimes....

cindi

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But feel like crap doesn't have BIG words in it. Need to make the Dr

look like they know something by using BIG words. (Yeah - have a

manger like that. Annoying as all heck. )

Louise

> In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:19:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> LestatL382@y... writes:

>

> > Hypothyroidism, however, had a significant

> > impact, dramatically increasing the risk for what they

> > termed " critical mood deterioration

>

> critical mood deterioration?...yea, i had that....but i just called

it

> " feeling like crap " ....critical mood deterioration sounds much more

important.

> as in " hey doc...I've had some critical mood deterioration

recently. "

> I amuse myself sometimes....

> cindi

>

>

>

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What gets me, Cindi, is that those who don't have this think of " critical

mood deterioration " as being " a little down " , " a little depressed " , " just

don't have that little get up and go " . No. CRITICAL mood deterioration has

much more ominous signs than that, IMO, for MOST of us thyroid sufferers.

Even with a happy existence, suddenly, there is stuff like " I don't feel

like existing any more " , " I feel like everything I'm doing is for nothing " ,

" What am I here for because I really don't feel like breathing in and out

any more " , " I feel like the things I formerly did don't mean anything and

I'm just going through the motions and not even that " . Or even " What would

it bring if I just took these pills and laid down and died and couldn't feel

any of this haunting emotional pain that comes out of nowhere and goes

nowhere? " . Some would say that this is ONLY something labeled as brain

chemistry or that there is actually something bothering us emotionally, but

we all know that the brain chemistry is so highly affected by lack of

thyroid hormone OR, before the loss of the hormone itself in the rest of the

body, antibodies are hammering away at the thyroid hormone that is actually

trying to get into the brain cells. THIS is one of the major things that so

many doctors and/or folks who don't have this disease do not

understand-----just how far these " things " can go in affecting our emotional

status and our general outlook on life, especially when life is actually

good for us.

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

>

> In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:19:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> LestatL382@... writes:

>

> > Hypothyroidism, however, had a significant

> > impact, dramatically increasing the risk for what they

> > termed " critical mood deterioration

>

> critical mood deterioration?...yea, i had that....but i just called it

> " feeling like crap " ....critical mood deterioration sounds much more

important.

> as in " hey doc...I've had some critical mood deterioration recently. "

> I amuse myself sometimes....

> cindi

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In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:30:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> Even with a happy existence, suddenly, there is stuff like " I don't feel

> like existing any more " , " I feel like everything I'm doing is for nothing " ,

> " What am I here for because I really don't feel like breathing in and out

> any more " , " I feel like the things I formerly did don't mean anything and

> I'm just going through the motions and not even that " . Or even " What would

> it bring if I just took these pills and laid down and died and couldn't feel

> any of this haunting emotional pain that comes out of nowhere and goes

> nowhere? " .

so you've been reading my mind all those years I was hypo. geez. you wrote

exactly the thoughts I used to have. still do sometimes. but nothing like i

used to. and i had NO reason to feel that way. that's what was so crazy.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:51:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

artisticgroom@... writes:

> So what's bothering you? &I would answer, NOTHING, I just feel like dying

> and that life is just too much WORK to keep going.

>

exactly. that was it. it was just too hard to get up in the morning and

face the day. i was just too tired. and worthless. and all sorts of stuff i

used to tell myself. perpetual PMS.

cindi

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My medical doc gave me cymbalta its an anti depressant, I have not yet taken

it, because I know that my depression is because of my thyroid levels, are any

of you on any meds?

[Guest guest]

YES your so RIGHT, I feel better already just talking to you guys! I thank

you from teh bottom of my heart really.. I just wish I would have found this

list before I did the RAI, in any case at least we are here to suport each other

Thanks to all.

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In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:03:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> are any

> of you on any meds?

>

some folks here are on anti-depressants. I was on an anti-anxiety med when I

started Armour, but was able to stop it after two weeks on the thyroid med.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:10:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> YES your so RIGHT, I feel better already just talking to you guys! I thank

> you from teh bottom of my heart really

it was such a blessing when I was still so sick to have these gals at this

forum. I felt so alone and scared...and when I found others who had been thru

what i was going thru...gosh, it just helped me so much.

cindi

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yes cindi, I know this group is really great, i am sorry for the typos guys

for some reason my eyesight is also bad, my eyes feel dry and very blurry aghh

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/13/2005 10:38:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> i am sorry for the typos guys

> for some reason my eyesight is also bad, my eyes feel dry and very blurry

us hypo gals here are used to typos and brain fog typing. don't worry

about it.

cindi

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I think i will start taking the cymbalta pill tomorrow night since my hubby

will be here over the weekend, i am just not sure of what reaction i will have

to it, not sure if it will make me sleepy wouldnt want to fall sleep while

caring fo rmy girls.

Oh the thing that scares me about taking anxiety/depression meds is that some

have horrible withdrawal symptons when you stop taking them like I stiopped

ativan and boy it was horrible stopping this med, I had every kind of

withdrawal symptom,

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In a message dated 1/13/2005 11:08:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> Oh the thing that scares me about taking anxiety/depression meds is that

> some

> have horrible withdrawal symptons when you stop taking them like I stiopped

> ativan and boy it was horrible stopping this med, I had every kind of

> withdrawal symptom,

>

i agree..they have terrible withdrawal symptoms. i stayed on a low dosage of

the Tranzene so i wouldn't have to worry about that...and i didn't have any

problem just stopping.

cindi

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I can't tell you the times when I went to a counselor of several different kinds

that would ask me, So what's bothering you? & I would answer, NOTHING, I just

feel like dying and that life is just too much WORK to keep going.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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>>my depression is because of my thyroid levels, are any

of you on any meds?<<

YOU are right on! It is a horribly depressing disease, and causes a depression

that is devastating. USED to be on several antidepressants, not any more! Hey

you have found the best antidepressant in the world right HERE! Hope for your

ailing thyroid gland. It helps depression just knowing there are others like you

out here and you are not alone with this miserable disease.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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HI kate, the funny thing about thi is that my doc actually gave me the meds

for spasms too! and when i came home and looked it up online I saw that it was

for depression and i questioned him about giving me that med, but he said that

it was approved by the fda for spasms, of course i thought he was giving it

to me for depression and got so mad, thought he was being sneaky, like so many

doctors that lie and give you meds for depression and say it for something

else!!! anyway I will begin taking it tonight, did it get you drowsy?

[Guest guest]

Hi, I will also share the info I read about cymbalta

here it is:

_Cymbalta: How treatment works_

(http://www.cymbalta.com/treatment/how_treat.jsp?reqNavId=3.2)

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Boy I can relate to that.

Kate

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:51:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

artisticgroom@... writes:

> So what's bothering you? &I would answer, NOTHING, I just feel like dying

> and that life is just too much WORK to keep going.

>

exactly. that was it. it was just too hard to get up in the morning and

face the day. i was just too tired. and worthless. and all sorts of stuff i

used to tell myself. perpetual PMS.

cindi

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I did a clinical trial on cymbalta for fibromyalgia. It was great for me. I have

waited for it to come out for a couple years now. I've never been as bad even

since I stopped it. None of the SSRIs ever helped me. I even tried Effexor which

is the other SNRI but it didn't do. I just got a script at the end of last year.

I'm taking a lesser amount and it has helped but not quite as much. I may decide

to increase it a bit. But this was before I found out thyroid antibodies could

be the root of my problem. I'm still waiting for my Armour. I'll reassess after.

Kate

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

My medical doc gave me cymbalta its an anti depressant, I have not yet taken

it, because I know that my depression is because of my thyroid levels, are any

of you on any meds?

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Cymbalta does not make me sleepy. In the trial I was on the highest amount. I

did not have withdrawal when they stopped. I do what that's like though. Awful.

Kate

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

I think i will start taking the cymbalta pill tomorrow night since my hubby

will be here over the weekend, i am just not sure of what reaction i will have

to it, not sure if it will make me sleepy wouldnt want to fall sleep while

caring fo rmy girls.

Oh the thing that scares me about taking anxiety/depression meds is that some

have horrible withdrawal symptons when you stop taking them like I stiopped

ativan and boy it was horrible stopping this med, I had every kind of

withdrawal symptom,

[Guest guest]

exactly! you are describing me!!!

Cris

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

>

> In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:19:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> LestatL382@... writes:

>

> > Hypothyroidism, however, had a significant

> > impact, dramatically increasing the risk for what they

> > termed " critical mood deterioration

>

> critical mood deterioration?...yea, i had that....but i just called it

> " feeling like crap " ....critical mood deterioration sounds much more

important.

> as in " hey doc...I've had some critical mood deterioration recently. "

> I amuse myself sometimes....

> cindi

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I have never heard of cymbalta. Is it out now? What can you tell me about it?

I'm curious!

thx!

Cris

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

My medical doc gave me cymbalta its an anti depressant, I have not yet taken

it, because I know that my depression is because of my thyroid levels, are any

of you on any meds?

[Guest guest]

That pretty much covers my knowledge! It eased my fibro pain, made me less

nervous, less weepy, less afraid to go out into the world, less fearful overall.

I could bend over to pick something up without my back going into spasms.

Kate

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

My medical doc gave me cymbalta its an anti depressant, I have not yet taken

it, because I know that my depression is because of my thyroid levels, are

any

of you on any meds?

[Guest guest]

Here is some information on cymbalta which is apparently available by

prescription

http://www.prozactruth.com/cymbalta.htm

Kallie

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

I have never heard of cymbalta. Is it out now? What can you tell me about

it? I'm curious!

thx!

Cris

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Thank you!

if it works for spasms, I'd be in heaven!!! I'm sure my insurance won't cover it

though.

Cris

Re: Hypothyroidism's Effects on Mental

Health are Un...

My medical doc gave me cymbalta its an anti depressant, I have not yet taken

it, because I know that my depression is because of my thyroid levels, are

any

of you on any meds?