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---MIKE..... that was nice of you.. i love giving to homeless, its a

blessing to me and a privalage.. last summer i was in texas at a red

light and there stood a filthy dirty looking lady.. strung out on

heroin.. standing loking for hand outs.. i gave her a apple she

started mulling it down, n a pop i gave her.. she could barely stand

still going all over from the drugs, but she kept saying ty ty ty..

the light turned red i pulled away she was eating her apple. it feels

good,, better than the apple tasted to help a hungry person.. nice

story you gave thxs donna In GastricBypass-

LOSERS , " Mike " wrote:

>

> I didn't tell ya all about eating out before THE WHO concert

Tuesday.

> I was an idiot and ordered a humus apatizer. It was delicious

though.

> Fantastic tomatoes. Then my wrap was a southwestern chicken and

> really great. I got veggies on the side which they charged me for,

> damn it, and STILL included the chips (barf get them out of here).

I

> think my waitress must have been hard of hearing because my son and

I

> both told her we didn't want that crap with our meals just veggies.

> That right, my son ordered veggies instead of chips without me

> telling him to.

>

> Anyway, I couldn't finish my wrap but it was SO GOOD I had to have

it

> later for breakfast or something right? So I boxed it up with some

of

> the veggies. I was thinking about heading back to the car to put it

> in before the concert. That seemed like a lot of work in the

> cold/wind just for half a wrap. It was worth $3.50 though so maybe

I

> should have. I tried to shove it in my coat pocket but couldn't get

> it in there.

>

> Just a short tangent, is it just me or do 2X and smaller clothing

> have smaller pockets making it harder to carry lots of snacks and

> food? I mean when I was wearing 5x-6x I could carry a LOT of crap

> (food) with me to munch on whenever. Now I can't even manage a half

a

> wrap? It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

>

> Ok so I've got this damned wrap that I know they're going to have a

> problem with at the concert gate right? Fine, I'll just throw it

out.

> I can't find a trash can on the way out the restaurant but we're

> going on the back and all the trash dumpsters are back there so I

> know I'm headed to get rid of this thing.

>

> I see the dumpster coming down there stairs and there's this guy in

a

> Red Wings jacket, not looking all that bad but I start to see that

> he's sort of picking at the dumpster's contents a bit. Not

something

> I haven't seen many time before so I say, " Hey man, here ya go. "

and

> hand him the togo box. He takes it and says, " Thanks a lot. " I

> say, " No problem have a good night " and walk off.

>

> The two guys (I was with two friends, one of their kids and my son)

> and my son start asking me who that was, did I just give him my

food,

> was he homeless, blah blah blah. I just said, " Yes, I he was, I

gave

> him my food, I couldn't get it into the arena anyway, it's not big

> deal, it's cold out, let's keep moving people. " But they really

> wanted to tell me how cool that was. I still tried to discount them

> and say it was all timing, I mean if I'd been 5 minutes earlier it

> would have still been in the dumpster for him just a little colder.

>

> They even kept me updated that the guy was a couple dozen feet away

> from us and was eating the stuff hungerily. Sigh...well that's good

I

> guess.

>

> So there are nice things that come out of getting rid of extra

food.

> This is pretty tough with being Dutch and spending that much on

food

> only to get rid of it. It does make it better knowing that someone

> benefitted from my inability, still today, to wrestle between my

> eyes/brain and my stomach/hunger.

>

> It really wouldn't be that hard for the kids and I to walk the half

> mile out of our way to some areas of town that have soup kitchens

and

> stuff with our extra food after dinners out. It would be good for

> them to perform some direct charity like that. Maybe I'll start

doing

> that. I'm going to wait until summer though BRRRR.

>

> Hmm, I just had a thought. I wonder what a date would think if we

> went out to a casual dressed meal of just some burgers or something

> and then went and did that afterwards. It would probably have the

> effect of either impressing her or being repugnant to her. That

would

> benefit me in that I wouldn't want to waste my time on another date

> with someone who would find that silly, too much effort or

repugnant.

> WOO I LOVE TO JUDGE OTHERS!!

>

> Mike in GR

>

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Mike in GR,

Your email got me to thinking about dating post op. Do you find

yourself going on many dates, and if so how/when/what do you tell them

about your WLS? WLS has been one of the biggest achievements for me,

so I am totally up front with everyone. Do you find yourself ever

explaining your new life style? I wear a medical ID bracelet with NO

NG Tube blah blah on the back of it, so this sparks converstations.

What is dating life like post WLS? Any thoughts????? lisamathis76

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What a nice thing to do!

I am always having too many styrofoam diners in my fridge.

Judy

leftovers from eating out

I didn't tell ya all about eating out before THE WHO concert Tuesday.

I was an idiot and ordered a humus apatizer. It was delicious though.

Fantastic tomatoes. Then my wrap was a southwestern chicken and

really great. I got veggies on the side which they charged me for,

damn it, and STILL included the chips (barf get them out of here). I

think my waitress must have been hard of hearing because my son and I

both told her we didn't want that crap with our meals just veggies.

That right, my son ordered veggies instead of chips without me

telling him to.

Anyway, I couldn't finish my wrap but it was SO GOOD I had to have it

later for breakfast or something right? So I boxed it up with some of

the veggies. I was thinking about heading back to the car to put it

in before the concert. That seemed like a lot of work in the

cold/wind just for half a wrap. It was worth $3.50 though so maybe I

should have. I tried to shove it in my coat pocket but couldn't get

it in there.

Just a short tangent, is it just me or do 2X and smaller clothing

have smaller pockets making it harder to carry lots of snacks and

food? I mean when I was wearing 5x-6x I could carry a LOT of crap

(food) with me to munch on whenever. Now I can't even manage a half a

wrap? It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

Ok so I've got this damned wrap that I know they're going to have a

problem with at the concert gate right? Fine, I'll just throw it out.

I can't find a trash can on the way out the restaurant but we're

going on the back and all the trash dumpsters are back there so I

know I'm headed to get rid of this thing.

I see the dumpster coming down there stairs and there's this guy in a

Red Wings jacket, not looking all that bad but I start to see that

he's sort of picking at the dumpster's contents a bit. Not something

I haven't seen many time before so I say, " Hey man, here ya go. " and

hand him the togo box. He takes it and says, " Thanks a lot. " I

say, " No problem have a good night " and walk off.

The two guys (I was with two friends, one of their kids and my son)

and my son start asking me who that was, did I just give him my food,

was he homeless, blah blah blah. I just said, " Yes, I he was, I gave

him my food, I couldn't get it into the arena anyway, it's not big

deal, it's cold out, let's keep moving people. " But they really

wanted to tell me how cool that was. I still tried to discount them

and say it was all timing, I mean if I'd been 5 minutes earlier it

would have still been in the dumpster for him just a little colder.

They even kept me updated that the guy was a couple dozen feet away

from us and was eating the stuff hungerily. Sigh...well that's good I

guess.

So there are nice things that come out of getting rid of extra food.

This is pretty tough with being Dutch and spending that much on food

only to get rid of it. It does make it better knowing that someone

benefitted from my inability, still today, to wrestle between my

eyes/brain and my stomach/hunger.

It really wouldn't be that hard for the kids and I to walk the half

mile out of our way to some areas of town that have soup kitchens and

stuff with our extra food after dinners out. It would be good for

them to perform some direct charity like that. Maybe I'll start doing

that. I'm going to wait until summer though BRRRR.

Hmm, I just had a thought. I wonder what a date would think if we

went out to a casual dressed meal of just some burgers or something

and then went and did that afterwards. It would probably have the

effect of either impressing her or being repugnant to her. That would

benefit me in that I wouldn't want to waste my time on another date

with someone who would find that silly, too much effort or repugnant.

WOO I LOVE TO JUDGE OTHERS!!

Mike in GR

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I noticed that in Texas too. There are a lot of folks with pretty

cool setups sitting in the intersections. We have nothing like that

here. I guess, especially on days like today, it'd be sort of a tough

gig to pull off.

The kids and I are walking downtown tonight for dinner. It's going to

be about 20F feels like. Anyone want to come down with use? Are ya

CHICKEN?

I'll take my camera.

Mike in GR (BRRR)

> >

> > I didn't tell ya all about eating out before THE WHO concert

> Tuesday.

> > I was an idiot and ordered a humus apatizer. It was delicious

> though.

> > Fantastic tomatoes. Then my wrap was a southwestern chicken and

> > really great. I got veggies on the side which they charged me

for,

> > damn it, and STILL included the chips (barf get them out of

here).

> I

> > think my waitress must have been hard of hearing because my son

and

> I

> > both told her we didn't want that crap with our meals just

veggies.

> > That right, my son ordered veggies instead of chips without me

> > telling him to.

> >

> > Anyway, I couldn't finish my wrap but it was SO GOOD I had to

have

> it

> > later for breakfast or something right? So I boxed it up with

some

> of

> > the veggies. I was thinking about heading back to the car to put

it

> > in before the concert. That seemed like a lot of work in the

> > cold/wind just for half a wrap. It was worth $3.50 though so

maybe

> I

> > should have. I tried to shove it in my coat pocket but couldn't

get

> > it in there.

> >

> > Just a short tangent, is it just me or do 2X and smaller clothing

> > have smaller pockets making it harder to carry lots of snacks and

> > food? I mean when I was wearing 5x-6x I could carry a LOT of crap

> > (food) with me to munch on whenever. Now I can't even manage a

half

> a

> > wrap? It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

> >

> > Ok so I've got this damned wrap that I know they're going to have

a

> > problem with at the concert gate right? Fine, I'll just throw it

> out.

> > I can't find a trash can on the way out the restaurant but we're

> > going on the back and all the trash dumpsters are back there so I

> > know I'm headed to get rid of this thing.

> >

> > I see the dumpster coming down there stairs and there's this guy

in

> a

> > Red Wings jacket, not looking all that bad but I start to see

that

> > he's sort of picking at the dumpster's contents a bit. Not

> something

> > I haven't seen many time before so I say, " Hey man, here ya go. "

> and

> > hand him the togo box. He takes it and says, " Thanks a lot. " I

> > say, " No problem have a good night " and walk off.

> >

> > The two guys (I was with two friends, one of their kids and my

son)

> > and my son start asking me who that was, did I just give him my

> food,

> > was he homeless, blah blah blah. I just said, " Yes, I he was, I

> gave

> > him my food, I couldn't get it into the arena anyway, it's not

big

> > deal, it's cold out, let's keep moving people. " But they really

> > wanted to tell me how cool that was. I still tried to discount

them

> > and say it was all timing, I mean if I'd been 5 minutes earlier

it

> > would have still been in the dumpster for him just a little

colder.

> >

> > They even kept me updated that the guy was a couple dozen feet

away

> > from us and was eating the stuff hungerily. Sigh...well that's

good

> I

> > guess.

> >

> > So there are nice things that come out of getting rid of extra

> food.

> > This is pretty tough with being Dutch and spending that much on

> food

> > only to get rid of it. It does make it better knowing that

someone

> > benefitted from my inability, still today, to wrestle between my

> > eyes/brain and my stomach/hunger.

> >

> > It really wouldn't be that hard for the kids and I to walk the

half

> > mile out of our way to some areas of town that have soup kitchens

> and

> > stuff with our extra food after dinners out. It would be good for

> > them to perform some direct charity like that. Maybe I'll start

> doing

> > that. I'm going to wait until summer though BRRRR.

> >

> > Hmm, I just had a thought. I wonder what a date would think if we

> > went out to a casual dressed meal of just some burgers or

something

> > and then went and did that afterwards. It would probably have the

> > effect of either impressing her or being repugnant to her. That

> would

> > benefit me in that I wouldn't want to waste my time on another

date

> > with someone who would find that silly, too much effort or

> repugnant.

> > WOO I LOVE TO JUDGE OTHERS!!

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

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That is way too cold for me and I guess I am chicken too because I prefer it

much warmer than that, the fifties would be much better.

Lin

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Re: leftovers from eating out

I noticed that in Texas too. There are a lot of folks with pretty

cool setups sitting in the intersections. We have nothing like that

here. I guess, especially on days like today, it'd be sort of a tough

gig to pull off.

The kids and I are walking downtown tonight for dinner. It's going to

be about 20F feels like. Anyone want to come down with use? Are ya

CHICKEN?

I'll take my camera.

Mike in GR (BRRR)

> >

> > I didn't tell ya all about eating out before THE WHO concert

> Tuesday.

> > I was an idiot and ordered a humus apatizer. It was delicious

> though.

> > Fantastic tomatoes. Then my wrap was a southwestern chicken and

> > really great. I got veggies on the side which they charged me

for,

> > damn it, and STILL included the chips (barf get them out of

here).

> I

> > think my waitress must have been hard of hearing because my son

and

> I

> > both told her we didn't want that crap with our meals just

veggies.

> > That right, my son ordered veggies instead of chips without me

> > telling him to.

> >

> > Anyway, I couldn't finish my wrap but it was SO GOOD I had to

have

> it

> > later for breakfast or something right? So I boxed it up with

some

> of

> > the veggies. I was thinking about heading back to the car to put

it

> > in before the concert. That seemed like a lot of work in the

> > cold/wind just for half a wrap. It was worth $3.50 though so

maybe

> I

> > should have. I tried to shove it in my coat pocket but couldn't

get

> > it in there.

> >

> > Just a short tangent, is it just me or do 2X and smaller clothing

> > have smaller pockets making it harder to carry lots of snacks and

> > food? I mean when I was wearing 5x-6x I could carry a LOT of crap

> > (food) with me to munch on whenever. Now I can't even manage a

half

> a

> > wrap? It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

> >

> > Ok so I've got this damned wrap that I know they're going to have

a

> > problem with at the concert gate right? Fine, I'll just throw it

> out.

> > I can't find a trash can on the way out the restaurant but we're

> > going on the back and all the trash dumpsters are back there so I

> > know I'm headed to get rid of this thing.

> >

> > I see the dumpster coming down there stairs and there's this guy

in

> a

> > Red Wings jacket, not looking all that bad but I start to see

that

> > he's sort of picking at the dumpster's contents a bit. Not

> something

> > I haven't seen many time before so I say, " Hey man, here ya go. "

> and

> > hand him the togo box. He takes it and says, " Thanks a lot. " I

> > say, " No problem have a good night " and walk off.

> >

> > The two guys (I was with two friends, one of their kids and my

son)

> > and my son start asking me who that was, did I just give him my

> food,

> > was he homeless, blah blah blah. I just said, " Yes, I he was, I

> gave

> > him my food, I couldn't get it into the arena anyway, it's not

big

> > deal, it's cold out, let's keep moving people. " But they really

> > wanted to tell me how cool that was. I still tried to discount

them

> > and say it was all timing, I mean if I'd been 5 minutes earlier

it

> > would have still been in the dumpster for him just a little

colder.

> >

> > They even kept me updated that the guy was a couple dozen feet

away

> > from us and was eating the stuff hungerily. Sigh...well that's

good

> I

> > guess.

> >

> > So there are nice things that come out of getting rid of extra

> food.

> > This is pretty tough with being Dutch and spending that much on

> food

> > only to get rid of it. It does make it better knowing that

someone

> > benefitted from my inability, still today, to wrestle between my

> > eyes/brain and my stomach/hunger.

> >

> > It really wouldn't be that hard for the kids and I to walk the

half

> > mile out of our way to some areas of town that have soup kitchens

> and

> > stuff with our extra food after dinners out. It would be good for

> > them to perform some direct charity like that. Maybe I'll start

> doing

> > that. I'm going to wait until summer though BRRRR.

> >

> > Hmm, I just had a thought. I wonder what a date would think if we

> > went out to a casual dressed meal of just some burgers or

something

> > and then went and did that afterwards. It would probably have the

> > effect of either impressing her or being repugnant to her. That

> would

> > benefit me in that I wouldn't want to waste my time on another

date

> > with someone who would find that silly, too much effort or

> repugnant.

> > WOO I LOVE TO JUDGE OTHERS!!

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

>

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cluck cluck!!! Yep.......if it get close to 30, we out here in Cali hide

indoors! LOL.......

Mike T

Re: leftovers from eating out

>I noticed that in Texas too. There are a lot of folks with pretty

> cool setups sitting in the intersections. We have nothing like that

> here. I guess, especially on days like today, it'd be sort of a tough

> gig to pull off.

>

> The kids and I are walking downtown tonight for dinner. It's going to

> be about 20F feels like. Anyone want to come down with use? Are ya

> CHICKEN?

>

> I'll take my camera.

>

> Mike in GR (BRRR)

>

>

>> >

>> > I didn't tell ya all about eating out before THE WHO concert

>> Tuesday.

>> > I was an idiot and ordered a humus apatizer. It was delicious

>> though.

>> > Fantastic tomatoes. Then my wrap was a southwestern chicken and

>> > really great. I got veggies on the side which they charged me

> for,

>> > damn it, and STILL included the chips (barf get them out of

> here).

>> I

>> > think my waitress must have been hard of hearing because my son

> and

>> I

>> > both told her we didn't want that crap with our meals just

> veggies.

>> > That right, my son ordered veggies instead of chips without me

>> > telling him to.

>> >

>> > Anyway, I couldn't finish my wrap but it was SO GOOD I had to

> have

>> it

>> > later for breakfast or something right? So I boxed it up with

> some

>> of

>> > the veggies. I was thinking about heading back to the car to put

> it

>> > in before the concert. That seemed like a lot of work in the

>> > cold/wind just for half a wrap. It was worth $3.50 though so

> maybe

>> I

>> > should have. I tried to shove it in my coat pocket but couldn't

> get

>> > it in there.

>> >

>> > Just a short tangent, is it just me or do 2X and smaller clothing

>> > have smaller pockets making it harder to carry lots of snacks and

>> > food? I mean when I was wearing 5x-6x I could carry a LOT of crap

>> > (food) with me to munch on whenever. Now I can't even manage a

> half

>> a

>> > wrap? It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

>> >

>> > Ok so I've got this damned wrap that I know they're going to have

> a

>> > problem with at the concert gate right? Fine, I'll just throw it

>> out.

>> > I can't find a trash can on the way out the restaurant but we're

>> > going on the back and all the trash dumpsters are back there so I

>> > know I'm headed to get rid of this thing.

>> >

>> > I see the dumpster coming down there stairs and there's this guy

> in

>> a

>> > Red Wings jacket, not looking all that bad but I start to see

> that

>> > he's sort of picking at the dumpster's contents a bit. Not

>> something

>> > I haven't seen many time before so I say, " Hey man, here ya go. "

>> and

>> > hand him the togo box. He takes it and says, " Thanks a lot. " I

>> > say, " No problem have a good night " and walk off.

>> >

>> > The two guys (I was with two friends, one of their kids and my

> son)

>> > and my son start asking me who that was, did I just give him my

>> food,

>> > was he homeless, blah blah blah. I just said, " Yes, I he was, I

>> gave

>> > him my food, I couldn't get it into the arena anyway, it's not

> big

>> > deal, it's cold out, let's keep moving people. " But they really

>> > wanted to tell me how cool that was. I still tried to discount

> them

>> > and say it was all timing, I mean if I'd been 5 minutes earlier

> it

>> > would have still been in the dumpster for him just a little

> colder.

>> >

>> > They even kept me updated that the guy was a couple dozen feet

> away

>> > from us and was eating the stuff hungerily. Sigh...well that's

> good

>> I

>> > guess.

>> >

>> > So there are nice things that come out of getting rid of extra

>> food.

>> > This is pretty tough with being Dutch and spending that much on

>> food

>> > only to get rid of it. It does make it better knowing that

> someone

>> > benefitted from my inability, still today, to wrestle between my

>> > eyes/brain and my stomach/hunger.

>> >

>> > It really wouldn't be that hard for the kids and I to walk the

> half

>> > mile out of our way to some areas of town that have soup kitchens

>> and

>> > stuff with our extra food after dinners out. It would be good for

>> > them to perform some direct charity like that. Maybe I'll start

>> doing

>> > that. I'm going to wait until summer though BRRRR.

>> >

>> > Hmm, I just had a thought. I wonder what a date would think if we

>> > went out to a casual dressed meal of just some burgers or

> something

>> > and then went and did that afterwards. It would probably have the

>> > effect of either impressing her or being repugnant to her. That

>> would

>> > benefit me in that I wouldn't want to waste my time on another

> date

>> > with someone who would find that silly, too much effort or

>> repugnant.

>> > WOO I LOVE TO JUDGE OTHERS!!

>> >

>> > Mike in GR

>> >

>>

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A lot? What's a lot more than zero? Yes I guess I would be going on a

lot. I'm trying to make plans with three ladies over the holidays.

Maybe one more if I get up the courage. She's at my work which is

always fun to navigate.

How = " I had gastric bypass surgery back in January of this year. "

When = I would say probably on the first date depending on how things

are going. On my last first date the woman was quite a bit heavier than

when I'd last seen her (20 years ago) but she's still terribly hot in

my mind. Also, I'm hardly one to either cast stones or ask to judge

about weight. I did end up asking her what she thought I weighed in our

evening's conversation. She said 220s. RIIIIGGGHHHTTT! Try 270s honey.

Needless to say I'm going to marry this one (kidding).

What I tell them is however much they want to know. If someone can't

handle that I've had weight loss surgery then do I really want to date

that person? It's not like I'm wearing T-shirts or taking them to wls

events or seminars so they're still plenty detached from the process.

There are PLENTY of other things people have done to themselves over

the years. I showed her my before picture a few days later. She wanted

to see more of them. Strange duck eh?

Seriously thought if you tell them early and they freak or things don't

work out because of wls or anything else then at least you're not too

attached early on. Easier just to get that out of the way. But don't

just blurt it out either. You can work it into conversaton. Maybe when

they ask why you're a freak and don't drink with your meal. HA!

Totally upfront is the way to be. Bravo!

Not really. They detect it pretty quick though when I get uber nuts on

fish and veggies at dinner and when I refuse drinks. It's really not a

hardship on them. I suppose it could be if we were drinking but then I

will cheat and drink wine.

I don't wear a bracelet but have thought of getting one. One of the

ladies I'm trying to go out with is a diabetic so we'd have bracelets

in common.

Dating is the same so far I guess. I don't date much or should say I

never did date much since the early 90s. Sad I know but then I was

married for eight years too.

I have a thought. Tell your date exactly what you're thinking and

what's on your mind. The one I'm dating the most does that and I find

myself doing all sorts of stuff for her that she mentions when we're

together. The more detail and importance she attributes to something

the harder I work and more $ I spend. Don't expect the guy to read

minds, we can barely figure out what we're thinking. Maybe she's just

playing me really well but I'm enjoying it so it's all good. I can give

a list of a few things I'm doing but we'll start off with

http://www.grandcarriages.com/ including champagne I'll be brining.

She's hilarious too because I told her I had a surprise for her on the

ride and she blurts out, " You do? What is it? " I said, " What? " She

said, " the surprise, what is it? " I said, " Honey don't you know how

this whole 'surprise' thing works? I don't tell you about it and then I

surprise you with it. " How cute is that? It's not a big deal. It's

essentially free. But it's seriously dead on with things she mentioned

in our conversation on our last date. Not only dead on but I've made

extra efforts to make the surprise very complete with my decades of

experience and knowledge on the subject. If you want to know what the

surprise is you'll have to ask.

Mike in GR

>

> Mike in GR,

> Your email got me to thinking about dating post op. Do you find

> yourself going on many dates, and if so how/when/what do you tell

them

> about your WLS? WLS has been one of the biggest achievements for me,

> so I am totally up front with everyone. Do you find yourself ever

> explaining your new life style? I wear a medical ID bracelet with NO

> NG Tube blah blah on the back of it, so this sparks converstations.

> What is dating life like post WLS? Any thoughts????? lisamathis76

>

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LOL.........what is the surprise????

>

> A lot? What's a lot more than zero? Yes I guess I would be going

on a

> lot. I'm trying to make plans with three ladies over the holidays.

> Maybe one more if I get up the courage. She's at my work which is

> always fun to navigate.

>

> How = " I had gastric bypass surgery back in January of this year. "

> When = I would say probably on the first date depending on how

things

> are going. On my last first date the woman was quite a bit heavier

than

> when I'd last seen her (20 years ago) but she's still terribly hot

in

> my mind. Also, I'm hardly one to either cast stones or ask to

judge

> about weight. I did end up asking her what she thought I weighed

in our

> evening's conversation. She said 220s. RIIIIGGGHHHTTT! Try 270s

honey.

> Needless to say I'm going to marry this one (kidding).

>

> What I tell them is however much they want to know. If someone

can't

> handle that I've had weight loss surgery then do I really want to

date

> that person? It's not like I'm wearing T-shirts or taking them to

wls

> events or seminars so they're still plenty detached from the

process.

>

> There are PLENTY of other things people have done to themselves

over

> the years. I showed her my before picture a few days later. She

wanted

> to see more of them. Strange duck eh?

>

> Seriously thought if you tell them early and they freak or things

don't

> work out because of wls or anything else then at least you're not

too

> attached early on. Easier just to get that out of the way. But

don't

> just blurt it out either. You can work it into conversaton. Maybe

when

> they ask why you're a freak and don't drink with your meal. HA!

>

> Totally upfront is the way to be. Bravo!

>

> Not really. They detect it pretty quick though when I get uber

nuts on

> fish and veggies at dinner and when I refuse drinks. It's really

not a

> hardship on them. I suppose it could be if we were drinking but

then I

> will cheat and drink wine.

>

> I don't wear a bracelet but have thought of getting one. One of

the

> ladies I'm trying to go out with is a diabetic so we'd have

bracelets

> in common.

>

> Dating is the same so far I guess. I don't date much or should say

I

> never did date much since the early 90s. Sad I know but then I was

> married for eight years too.

>

> I have a thought. Tell your date exactly what you're thinking and

> what's on your mind. The one I'm dating the most does that and I

find

> myself doing all sorts of stuff for her that she mentions when

we're

> together. The more detail and importance she attributes to

something

> the harder I work and more $ I spend. Don't expect the guy to read

> minds, we can barely figure out what we're thinking. Maybe she's

just

> playing me really well but I'm enjoying it so it's all good. I can

give

> a list of a few things I'm doing but we'll start off with

> http://www.grandcarriages.com/ including champagne I'll be

brining.

>

> She's hilarious too because I told her I had a surprise for her on

the

> ride and she blurts out, " You do? What is it? " I said, " What? " She

> said, " the surprise, what is it? " I said, " Honey don't you know

how

> this whole 'surprise' thing works? I don't tell you about it and

then I

> surprise you with it. " How cute is that? It's not a big deal. It's

> essentially free. But it's seriously dead on with things she

mentioned

> in our conversation on our last date. Not only dead on but I've

made

> extra efforts to make the surprise very complete with my decades

of

> experience and knowledge on the subject. If you want to know what

the

> surprise is you'll have to ask.

>

> Mike in GR

>

>

> >

> > Mike in GR,

> > Your email got me to thinking about dating post op. Do you

find

> > yourself going on many dates, and if so how/when/what do you

tell

> them

> > about your WLS? WLS has been one of the biggest achievements

for me,

> > so I am totally up front with everyone. Do you find yourself

ever

> > explaining your new life style? I wear a medical ID bracelet

with NO

> > NG Tube blah blah on the back of it, so this sparks

converstations.

> > What is dating life like post WLS? Any thoughts?????

lisamathis76

> >

>

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Well I shouldn't have built up all the suspense but here goes.

We were driving around my neighborhood after dinner last week and she

commented how she loved the old houses and really liked hardwood

floors and stuff. I told her mine was pretty tame but that the ex

wife did get a nice house with floors, pocket doors, large oak french

doors the whole nine yards. I also told her that she just missed the

home tour in October. She sighed and said she'd have to go next year.

I said you're going to do more than go baby, you're going to

volunteer and get a free ticket to go.

Of course being sweet I remembered all this so on our carriage ride

we're going to stop for 10-15 minutes about half way through the

course. Get out and go through one of the home tour houses from this

year that's owned by a friend of mine. But wait! I even went down to

the association that puts on the tour and got the tour map and

narration for the guides for that particular home. The owners said

they might not be there which would be a bummer but their four kids

will probably be there with a babysitter.

That's it. Not such a big deal I suppose but I think she'll

appreciate it. Oh and I'll have to ask them if we can take pictures

this time too. The home tour doesn't allow pictures.

She also mentioned that she doesn't have a yearbook from her

graduation year. I'm getting one of those Tuesday and will be

scanning it into a PDF for her. I'm scanning my year's book in right

now and it's taking about 3.5 hrs for the whole book. Scanning is

pretty boring work too.

There's a few more things too. She seems to really appreciate all

this little stuff. It's very nice.

Mike in GR

> > >

> > > Mike in GR,

> > > Your email got me to thinking about dating post op. Do you

> find

> > > yourself going on many dates, and if so how/when/what do you

> tell

> > them

> > > about your WLS? WLS has been one of the biggest achievements

> for me,

> > > so I am totally up front with everyone. Do you find yourself

> ever

> > > explaining your new life style? I wear a medical ID bracelet

> with NO

> > > NG Tube blah blah on the back of it, so this sparks

> converstations.

> > > What is dating life like post WLS? Any thoughts?????

> lisamathis76

> > >

> >

>

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It was worth the suspense! I think she will love it! :)

ell I shouldn't have built up all the suspense but here goes.

>

> We were driving around my neighborhood after dinner last week and

she

> commented how she loved the old houses and really liked hardwood

> floors and stuff. I told her mine was pretty tame but that the ex

> wife did get a nice house with floors, pocket doors, large oak

french

> doors the whole nine yards. I also told her that she just missed

the

> home tour in October. She sighed and said she'd have to go next

year.

> I said you're going to do more than go baby, you're going to

> volunteer and get a free ticket to go.

>

> Of course being sweet I remembered all this so on our carriage

ride

> we're going to stop for 10-15 minutes about half way through the

> course. Get out and go through one of the home tour houses from

this

> year that's owned by a friend of mine. But wait! I even went down

to

> the association that puts on the tour and got the tour map and

> narration for the guides for that particular home. The owners said

> they might not be there which would be a bummer but their four

kids

> will probably be there with a babysitter.

>

> That's it. Not such a big deal I suppose but I think she'll

> appreciate it. Oh and I'll have to ask them if we can take

pictures

> this time too. The home tour doesn't allow pictures.

>

> She also mentioned that she doesn't have a yearbook from her

> graduation year. I'm getting one of those Tuesday and will be

> scanning it into a PDF for her. I'm scanning my year's book in

right

> now and it's taking about 3.5 hrs for the whole book. Scanning is

> pretty boring work too.

>

> There's a few more things too. She seems to really appreciate all

> this little stuff. It's very nice.

>

> Mike in GR

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Mike in GR,

> > > > Your email got me to thinking about dating post op. Do you

> > find

> > > > yourself going on many dates, and if so how/when/what do you

> > tell

> > > them

> > > > about your WLS? WLS has been one of the biggest

achievements

> > for me,

> > > > so I am totally up front with everyone. Do you find

yourself

> > ever

> > > > explaining your new life style? I wear a medical ID

bracelet

> > with NO

> > > > NG Tube blah blah on the back of it, so this sparks

> > converstations.

> > > > What is dating life like post WLS? Any thoughts?????

> > lisamathis76

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Oh Mike, you are such a tease. Of course we are going to ask about the

" surprise " . Some of us have to live vicariously though the social

lives of others!

in MI

> >

> > Mike in GR,

> > Your email got me to thinking about dating post op. Do you find

> > yourself going on many dates, and if so how/when/what do you tell

> them

> > about your WLS? WLS has been one of the biggest achievements for me,

> > so I am totally up front with everyone. Do you find yourself ever

> > explaining your new life style? I wear a medical ID bracelet with NO

> > NG Tube blah blah on the back of it, so this sparks converstations.

> > What is dating life like post WLS? Any thoughts????? lisamathis76

> >

>

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Wow Mike. What a sweetheart you are. She's going to love what your

doing for her. Keep us updated.

Liz B

> > > >

> > > > Mike in GR,

> > > > Your email got me to thinking about dating post op. Do you

> > find

> > > > yourself going on many dates, and if so how/when/what do you

> > tell

> > > them

> > > > about your WLS? WLS has been one of the biggest

achievements

> > for me,

> > > > so I am totally up front with everyone. Do you find

yourself

> > ever

> > > > explaining your new life style? I wear a medical ID

bracelet

> > with NO

> > > > NG Tube blah blah on the back of it, so this sparks

> > converstations.

> > > > What is dating life like post WLS? Any thoughts?????

> > lisamathis76

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Mike, I can't imagine that she wouldn't love it! Besides, it's a great

demonstration that you're a 1st class SNAG (Sensitive New-Age Guy.)

It's thing things that take thought, no money, that are remembered a

lifetime. She's lucky to have you.

--Cat

>

> Well I shouldn't have built up all the suspense but here goes.

>

> We were driving around my neighborhood after dinner last week and she

> commented how she loved the old houses and really liked hardwood

> floors and stuff. I told her mine was pretty tame but that the ex

> wife did get a nice house with floors, pocket doors, large oak french

> doors the whole nine yards. I also told her that she just missed the

> home tour in October. She sighed and said she'd have to go next year.

> I said you're going to do more than go baby, you're going to

> volunteer and get a free ticket to go.

>

> Of course being sweet I remembered all this so on our carriage ride

> we're going to stop for 10-15 minutes about half way through the

> course. Get out and go through one of the home tour houses from this

> year that's owned by a friend of mine. But wait! I even went down to

> the association that puts on the tour and got the tour map and

> narration for the guides for that particular home. The owners said

> they might not be there which would be a bummer but their four kids

> will probably be there with a babysitter.

>

> That's it. Not such a big deal I suppose but I think she'll

> appreciate it. Oh and I'll have to ask them if we can take pictures

> this time too. The home tour doesn't allow pictures.

>

> She also mentioned that she doesn't have a yearbook from her

> graduation year. I'm getting one of those Tuesday and will be

> scanning it into a PDF for her. I'm scanning my year's book in right

> now and it's taking about 3.5 hrs for the whole book. Scanning is

> pretty boring work too.

>

> There's a few more things too. She seems to really appreciate all

> this little stuff. It's very nice.

>

> Mike in GR

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