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Are you tring to make us jealous?Its like 14 here in PA. YUCK!!!

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> > I have posted before that I wanted to drop five pounds this

> > month, and

> > get into the 240's.....This was my Dec. goal......

> >

> > Well last week I cut out all the crap I was snacking on, and

stuck to

> > a protein rich diet...I got back on my shakes, 2-3 a day

depending on

> > my workouts.....And stepped up the workouts also...

> >

> > Its just the 7th, And I have hit my goal for the month!!! I went

from

> > 255 to 249 in the last week.....I didnt weigh myself for a week

and

> > that was hard also....

> >

> > Im going to step up my goal and really push harder to make way

for

> > some snacking on and around X-mas.....I know I will have more

than I

> > should on those couple of days....

> >

> > So Im going to say now, I want to be in the 30's by the end of

Jan.

> > 07! Im trying to be conservitive and just have a 10 pound goal

for the

> > rest of this month and next....

> >

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Yeah you're at the crux of the problem and what's really hard to

change. The snacking habit that you've got is destructive. You do

what I do and break it up into components and try to mess with it to

where you don't screw it up too much so as to hurt your homework,

computing or whatever but still try to take the bad part out. That's

all cool.

When I was heavy I got into being so lazy that I simply didn't care

and that just lead to even worse things getting into these little

pockets of time and " activities " . That makes it even harder to pull

the bad parts out if you're getting more and more bad things into

them.

Changing a location is a great idea. I should really do that with my

setup but I hold on to that. Probably not good but hey not EVERYTHING

can be perfect right? A laptop to go places is NOT a bad idea and

well worth it. I don't have a laptop and maybe I should have one for

the same reason. Winter in Michigan doesn't really connect to all

that well but I can see that being a valid argument for me to get one

in the summer. I think I'll do that. I'll have to work out in my mind

that I want to pack up a laptop, go for a walk or ride/run and use be

disconnected from my house (where I've got the comfort of my clothes,

bathroom, TV, and, wait for it, fridge/food. Hey something I might

suggest here is that when you do go for a walk to wherever that you

take only a set amount of money or no money at all. That way you

can't buy more than your single non fat decaf latte or tea. You have

to weigh that with the need to have money in the event of an

emergency but really if you've got a cell phone with you then you

should be okay. You'd be surprised the power of not having money when

you go out gives you in controlling your food purchasing/eating.

I have had a large box in my van full of water bottles for many

months. I removed it today because the water was starting to freeze

and would soon be solid. Not only is this a bummer for me but my kids

have gotten used to it and are not happy. But what do you do in

Michigan? I mean it's freaking in the teens tonight. Stuff freezes.

I'll have to think of something else to do. I'd appreciate any

suggestions. I think what I'm going to do is take a soft cooler I

have and set that next to the door, then just load it with a half

dozen bottles every day and just tote that around in the car for the

day. If those freeze then I'll just let them thaw and put new ones

in. That will just become another bag, like my gym bag, that I tote

around. It'll work great. It'll keep my mind busy with stupid little

wastes of time. Weee!

You're right about having water around. If you have water you can't

eat. I've had to put my mind on things that are degrees of separation

out from eating. By that I mean I first set my mind on not eating 15

minutes before, during or 45 minutes after eating. I do that

religiously. But I could still snack doing that right? Well then I

through in constantly drinking when not eating and bam! I can't eat

because I had a drink only a few minutes ago. Uh oh? What do I do

then? Just sit and THINK and STARVE and get all worked up on food and

not being satisfied and crap for the next few minutes until I can

tackle a bag of whatever and start snacking? Nope, satisfy yourself

immediately with a water. You'll really get charged up on the instant

gratification. The fact that it's plain old water or maybe crystal

light and not what you THINK you really want, a snack/food, will be

over shadowed in your brain. Your mind and body will start to tell

your conscious " Dude you ROCK! I feel bored and think I'm hungry and

you throw something at me and I get some satisfaction? I don't feel

guilty? In fact I feel a bit better? Plus I have to occupy my time

and energy into worrying about finding a bathroom or more water? Man

that's cool! " Maybe you're brain likes to sit and dwell on choices of

snack...MMM there's so many! Maybe you like to spend money on snacks.

Wooo spend spend spend what a drug! Hey you can do that all with

water. There are so many options with water. You can sweat what

flavors there are, what small amounts of carbs/sugars there are, do

what I do and sweat sodium. Just get your mind on being weird about

SOMETHING other than trying to shove the WORSE and MOST crappy food

you can into your body. Nobody is saying you can't be a nut job and

sweat something about snacking just do it healthy. OK enough on that.

It's not just a saying, dehydration does make you think you're

hungry. I'm drinking about two gallons a day. I can't remember the

last time I was really hungry per se. Certainly not where I was

REALLY hungry. I used to try to have the philosophy where if I

thought I was hungry I couldn't eat anything when I couldn't decide

what to eat. That was an attempt to just not grab anything and eat

whatever was easy/bad to eat. Well now I find myself sometimes

thinking, " Hey it's getting late, you HAVE to eat something or you're

going to screw up the whole schedule thing, not get in enough

protein/veggies or whatever. " I then find that I'm almost forcing

myself to decide what to eat and forcing myself to eat at a

particular time. Talk about WEIRD compared to just grabbing anything

and everything and constantly stuffing it down to feel better. Now I

have to force myself to think about eating? Just weird.

It's not that I'm NOT hungry at 7pm it's that I've put other stuff in

my life/mind that is more important than my hunger so THEY interfer

with hunger rather than HUNGER interferring with everything else.

Subtle but true.

Sorry for writing a book but this is the crazy crap that knocks

around in my head during the day. What a messed up guy right?

Mike in GR (damn did I say it was in the teens? Holy crap!)

> >

> > COME ON JUDY!! Just gather all the snacks up and take them

outside

> and toss

> > them all in your trash can! That is what I did....I knew if I

kept

> them

> > around I would talk myself into something......I had to get it

all

> out of

> > the house....

> >

> > YOU CAN DO IT JUDY!!!!

> >

> > Mike T

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> > > You go Mike! Wish I could stay away from those darn snacks

> and get the

> > > ball rolling again. I've got 30 to go yet.

> > > Judy

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Feels Like: 20° F right now here. I like that. Windchill sucks though

with strong gusts.

I like to have a few inches of snow around. It's fun.

> > I have posted before that I wanted to drop five pounds this

> > month, and

> > get into the 240's.....This was my Dec. goal......

> >

> > Well last week I cut out all the crap I was snacking on, and

stuck to

> > a protein rich diet...I got back on my shakes, 2-3 a day

depending on

> > my workouts.....And stepped up the workouts also...

> >

> > Its just the 7th, And I have hit my goal for the month!!! I went

from

> > 255 to 249 in the last week.....I didnt weigh myself for a week

and

> > that was hard also....

> >

> > Im going to step up my goal and really push harder to make way for

> > some snacking on and around X-mas.....I know I will have more

than I

> > should on those couple of days....

> >

> > So Im going to say now, I want to be in the 30's by the end of

Jan.

> > 07! Im trying to be conservitive and just have a 10 pound goal

for the

> > rest of this month and next....

> >

> > Mike T

> > 401 / 249 / 200ish

> >

> >

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Ok CA/FL people are totally messed in the head. 65F is time to break

out the shorts and t-shirts you nuts. 85 is time to get inside to

enjoy air conditioning. The idea that you would think 65 is too cold

is just not right.

Here, think about this. I'm wearing shorts and t-shirt during the day

when it's 65 and it drops to 50 in the evening maybe. OH NO TOO

COLD!! Wait a second, there's a sweat shirt. A nice, comfy, fleece

like sweat shirt. Put it on, maybe not even put on long pants, and

bam you've got total comfort. Now through that in with a large fire

pit on the longest fresh water beaches in the world and man it just

doesn't get any better.

Let me paint this picture. You're on the beach in CA/FL late at night

and it's a balmy 70-75 or you can be in MI on the beach when it's 50.

What's the better weather for coercing your date into snuggling? It's

okay, you know I'm right.

Mike in GR (granted it's not 65 right now)

I have posted before that

> > I wanted to drop five pounds this month, and

> > get into the 240's.....This was my Dec. goal......

> >

> > Well last week I cut out all the crap I was snacking on, and

stuck to

> > a protein rich diet...I got back on my shakes, 2-3 a day

depending on

> > my workouts.....And stepped up the workouts also...

> >

> > Its just the 7th, And I have hit my goal for the month!!! I went

from

> > 255 to 249 in the last week.....I didnt weigh myself for a week

and

> > that was hard also....

> >

> > Im going to step up my goal and really push harder to make way for

> > some snacking on and around X-mas.....I know I will have more

than I

> > should on those couple of days....

> >

> > So Im going to say now, I want to be in the 30's by the end of

Jan.

> > 07! Im trying to be conservitive and just have a 10 pound goal

for the

> > rest of this month and next....

> >

> > Mike T

> > 401 / 249 / 200ish

> >

> >

> >

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I would agree with that Mike except my kids have been nothing short

of amazing. In fact I'd say they're almost better at this stuff than

I am simply because they're doing it for themselves WITHOUT surgery

and doing it all the time. I've heard they even do it to their

mother, my ex wife, friends, grand parents, etc. The " THIS " I'm

talking about is read labels and avoid bad foods. They make faces;

say EWWWW and all that about things as simple as chips and fries. My

daughter won't touch drinks with calories. My son still has lemonade

once in a while but usually orders water even though he wouldn't be

paying for the lemonade. You know why? Because I explained the cost

to him and he internalized it and owns it now knowing that even

though we might not always thank him that he's helping his hosts by

not incurring that extra expense and he's helping himself not getting

that sugar.

They FREAK OUT wait staff by asking what their meals come with and

altering their meals to remove crap and get in vegetables. I sit back

and say NOTHING. The wait staff gets flustered, confused, and often

has to carry on an actual conversation with a young teenager. They're

just stupefied that some kid would question a burger and fries short

of wanting it plain. It gets really fun when they get to me and ask

me if I'm sure I don't want ANYTHING to drink, " Are you SURE you

don't want a water sir? " LMAO!! Will I explode with you it? HAHA.

Eating out is its own entertainment.

It's great in house too because now I know whatever they eat they're

eating some what healthy even if they think they need to snack. You

know what, they don't really snack much now either. So removing the

crap snacks for healthy snacks not only seems to get rid of the bad

food but at least slightly affects the bad habit itself. I don't get

pestered to go out and get crap either.

Oh and another side effect. If we do go for a walk and find a neat

new shop, go in and there's an unusual treat like a chocolate bar or

something we'll get one. Now it's probably only a buck or two, pretty

common for someone who snacks all the time right? Well my kids thank

me, repeatedly, for a few hours for the treat. That's right, for a

couple bucks I get THANKS from my kids. What's more is we split it

three or more ways. Wait a second!!?? That means it's not $6 or more

and we're all getting in hundreds of calories? Damn right. Sure we're

eating crap but it's a once in a while occurrence, it's only a

fraction of the whole serving; it's only a hundred or two calories,

etc.

I guess maybe my mind never considered this stuff when I was so busy

trying to decide what sort of chips I was going to be eating next. I

think " normal " or thin people just take this stuff for granted or

don't care. You have to revel in these treats. Don't deny yourself

cold having a treat once in a while but when you do really live it up

and you don't have to go to extremes with the treat itself, just your

enjoyment of it.

Mike in GR

> >>

> >> COME ON JUDY!! Just gather all the snacks up and take them

outside

> > and toss

> >> them all in your trash can! That is what I did....I knew if I

kept

> > them

> >> around I would talk myself into something......I had to get it

all

> > out of

> >> the house....

> >>

> >> YOU CAN DO IT JUDY!!!!

> >>

> >> Mike T

> >>

> >>

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> >>

> >> > You go Mike! Wish I could stay away from those darn snacks

> > and get the

> >> > ball rolling again. I've got 30 to go yet.

> >> > Judy

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I can't guess. Get rid of them. Give them healthy snacks. They'll

complain for probably months. But it will end. They'll be your

biggest allies in a few months. They'll make their parents crazy

because buying healthy whole fruits and veggies requires you to shop

more often and is usually pretty pricey. It's hilarious to watch it

annoy my parents and exwife because they can't stock up on sale

snacks but instead half to buy bananas and broccoli almost daily. HAHA

A food diary REALLY helped me out a lot. I don't keep one now but can

usually recall what I've eaten for the past week and could even

speculate, within probably 10-15% accuracy on the nutrition data

contained in every bit of food. Basically your brain becomes its own

diary after you get in the HABIT of writing it down. DO IT!

We're on your side but don't discount having even those cute

nephews/neices on your side. Kids will freak you out with the level

of control they have over you. Heck, right now they're controlling

you by making you have crap snacks in your house. I'd say that's

pretty amazing. Get rid of that stuff.

Mike in GR

>

> Normally I don't have the goodies in my house, but my youngest

sister and her 4 & 5 year olds moved in with me. Can you guess why

the snacks are here? I see them all the time and they call out to me.

I really tried yesterday and failed about 10:00PM. I even drank 2

large cups of hot tea. I must increase my protein. I had ordered some

from the internet at unjury. I am going to try and do 2 protein

shakes and a meal each day. I also went shopping today and got some

books and a food diary, I hope this will help. I also just read the

book " Weight loss surgery for dummies " . There was a lot of info in

there so I got a little motivation. And with you people on my side

where can I go wrong?

> WE ALL CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!

> Judy

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> > You go Mike! Wish I could stay away from those darn snacks and

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> > ball rolling again. I've got 30 to go yet.

> > Judy

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I can't believe you say I get wired and go on and on. Talk about the

pot calling the kettle black. LOL!! Then again, your posts make a lot

more sense and aren't just rambling like mine.

I appreciate your comments about finding ways to play psychological

warfare with your own brain. Just realizing that your stomach can be

just as happy with water as it is with food is VERY important. If the

pouch is stretched with something, it can't tell the difference and

thinks it is full. That is a wonderful realization and I've

experienced it several times over the past few days. I keep thinking

I'm hungry but I KNOW I'm not getting in enough water, so I drink.

Then miraculously, I'm not hungry anymore.

And the seemingly obsessive nature of studying and researching water

and everything else isn't such a bad thing. If you are focussed on

finding the highest quality products to put in your body instead of

grabbing what is handy, then your health will be better for it in the

long run. I think if we had ALL thought about food that way all of our

lives, then a lot of us might not be in this situation right now.

in MI (and yes, it's in the teens, but at least there is SUN!!)

> > >

> > > COME ON JUDY!! Just gather all the snacks up and take them

> outside

> > and toss

> > > them all in your trash can! That is what I did....I knew if I

> kept

> > them

> > > around I would talk myself into something......I had to get it

> all

> > out of

> > > the house....

> > >

> > > YOU CAN DO IT JUDY!!!!

> > >

> > > Mike T

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: Great News!

> > >

> > >

> > > > You go Mike! Wish I could stay away from those darn snacks

> > and get the

> > > > ball rolling again. I've got 30 to go yet.

> > > > Judy

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I cannot disagree with you here. I wish it were 65 here in SC right now

because it is too stinking cold for my likings right now.

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Ok CA/FL people are totally messed in the head. 65F is time to break

out the shorts and t-shirts you nuts. 85 is time to get inside to

enjoy air conditioning. The idea that you would think 65 is too cold

is just not right.

Here, think about this. I'm wearing shorts and t-shirt during the day

when it's 65 and it drops to 50 in the evening maybe. OH NO TOO

COLD!! Wait a second, there's a sweat shirt. A nice, comfy, fleece

like sweat shirt. Put it on, maybe not even put on long pants, and

bam you've got total comfort. Now through that in with a large fire

pit on the longest fresh water beaches in the world and man it just

doesn't get any better.

Let me paint this picture. You're on the beach in CA/FL late at night

and it's a balmy 70-75 or you can be in MI on the beach when it's 50.

What's the better weather for coercing your date into snuggling? It's

okay, you know I'm right.

Mike in GR (granted it's not 65 right now)

I have posted before that

> > I wanted to drop five pounds this month, and

> > get into the 240's.....This was my Dec. goal......

> >

> > Well last week I cut out all the crap I was snacking on, and

stuck to

> > a protein rich diet...I got back on my shakes, 2-3 a day

depending on

> > my workouts.....And stepped up the workouts also...

> >

> > Its just the 7th, And I have hit my goal for the month!!! I went

from

> > 255 to 249 in the last week.....I didnt weigh myself for a week

and

> > that was hard also....

> >

> > Im going to step up my goal and really push harder to make way for

> > some snacking on and around X-mas.....I know I will have more

than I

> > should on those couple of days....

> >

> > So Im going to say now, I want to be in the 30's by the end of

Jan.

> > 07! Im trying to be conservitive and just have a 10 pound goal

for the

> > rest of this month and next....

> >

> > Mike T

> > 401 / 249 / 200ish

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65 to 85 in Oklahoma is like heaven. We have a few weeks of extreme heat in

the summer and a few days of extreme cold in the winter. We get a lot of wind

here which can help or hinder the outside temps. Overall, temperature in

Oklahoma is moderate. Plus it's just a nice place to live.

Sue

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Ok CA/FL people are totally messed in the head. 65F is time to break

out the shorts and t-shirts you nuts. 85 is time to get inside to

enjoy air conditioning. The idea that you would think 65 is too cold

is just not right.

Here, think about this. I'm wearing shorts and t-shirt during the day

when it's 65 and it drops to 50 in the evening maybe. OH NO TOO

COLD!! Wait a second, there's a sweat shirt. A nice, comfy, fleece

like sweat shirt. Put it on, maybe not even put on long pants, and

bam you've got total comfort. Now through that in with a large fire

pit on the longest fresh water beaches in the world and man it just

doesn't get any better.

Let me paint this picture. You're on the beach in CA/FL late at night

and it's a balmy 70-75 or you can be in MI on the beach when it's 50.

What's the better weather for coercing your date into snuggling? It's

okay, you know I'm right.

Mike in GR (granted it's not 65 right now)

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At least the cold, bitter wind died down Kim. It was brutal yesterday!

Judy from PA also.

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Are you tring to make us jealous?Its like 14 here in PA. YUCK!!!

Kim

> > I have posted before that I wanted to drop five pounds this

> > month, and

> > get into the 240's.....This was my Dec. goal......

> >

> > Well last week I cut out all the crap I was snacking on, and

stuck to

> > a protein rich diet...I got back on my shakes, 2-3 a day

depending on

> > my workouts.....And stepped up the workouts also...

> >

> > Its just the 7th, And I have hit my goal for the month!!! I went

from

> > 255 to 249 in the last week.....I didnt weigh myself for a week

and

> > that was hard also....

> >

> > Im going to step up my goal and really push harder to make way

for

> > some snacking on and around X-mas.....I know I will have more

than I

> > should on those couple of days....

> >

> > So Im going to say now, I want to be in the 30's by the end of

Jan.

> > 07! Im trying to be conservitive and just have a 10 pound goal

for the

> > rest of this month and next....

> >

> > Mike T

> > 401 / 249 / 200ish

> >

> >

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Hey Mike in GR.,

Thanks for the inspirational novel! I've been getting lots of help from

everyone here and I think I am back on track. YEA!!

I wish I had someone like you living with me...I'd never fall off the wagon. I'm

just glad we all have this communication tool.

Thanks everyone!

Judy in PA and shivering the weight off

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> > > You go Mike! Wish I could stay away from those darn snacks

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> > > ball rolling again. I've got 30 to go yet.

> > > Judy

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I am having a rough time of the weather this year because I don't have the extra

coat on. YAY! COLD! NOT! If it weren't for the school system and medical being

better out here, I would really doubt my sanity. haha

judy oswald judy.34@...> wrote: Hey Mike in GR.,

Thanks for the inspirational novel! I've been getting lots of help from everyone

here and I think I am back on track. YEA!!

I wish I had someone like you living with me...I'd never fall off the wagon. I'm

just glad we all have this communication tool.

Thanks everyone!

Judy in PA and shivering the weight off

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> >

> >

> > > You go Mike! Wish I could stay away from those darn snacks

> and get the

> > > ball rolling again. I've got 30 to go yet.

> > > Judy

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Snuggling is the only thing cold weather is good for!

W

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Mike wrote:

> Ok CA/FL people are totally messed in the head. 65F is time to break

> out the shorts and t-shirts you nuts. 85 is time to get inside to

> enjoy air conditioning. The idea that you would think 65 is too cold

> is just not right.

>

> Here, think about this. I'm wearing shorts and t-shirt during the day

> when it's 65 and it drops to 50 in the evening maybe. OH NO TOO

> COLD!! Wait a second, there's a sweat shirt. A nice, comfy, fleece

> like sweat shirt. Put it on, maybe not even put on long pants, and

> bam you've got total comfort. Now through that in with a large fire

> pit on the longest fresh water beaches in the world and man it just

> doesn't get any better.

>

> Let me paint this picture. You're on the beach in CA/FL late at night

> and it's a balmy 70-75 or you can be in MI on the beach when it's 50.

> What's the better weather for coercing your date into snuggling? It's

> okay, you know I'm right.

>

> Mike in GR (granted it's not 65 right now)

>

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I absolutely hate the cold. I have been freezing over here since

September. The weather here is alot like PA. Minus the snow. Knock on

wood we dont have any yet.

Marilynn

>

> I am having a rough time of the weather this year because I don't have

> the extra coat on. YAY! COLD! NOT! If it weren't for the school system and

> medical being better out here, I would really doubt my sanity. haha

>

> judy oswald judy.34@... > wrote: Hey Mike

> in GR.,

> Thanks for the inspirational novel! I've been getting lots of help from

> everyone here and I think I am back on track. YEA!!

> I wish I had someone like you living with me...I'd never fall off the

> wagon. I'm just glad we all have this communication tool.

> Thanks everyone!

> Judy in PA and shivering the weight off

>

> Re: Great News!

> > >

> > >

> > > > You go Mike! Wish I could stay away from those darn snacks

> > and get the

> > > > ball rolling again. I've got 30 to go yet.

> > > > Judy

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