fluid intake and yet more examples of why the number/weight is junk

[Guest guest]

Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out I

drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I killed

that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

(these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere around

56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an hour

straight or anything crazy like that.

Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third bottle of

tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-8 I

drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and 291 on

my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I guess

I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've not

moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood pressure

machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed away

from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty cool.

I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30 minutes

prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and did

some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It said I

weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my BMI

was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six month

appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking scale

tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal weight.

Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what my

weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I really

get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu lot

and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to lose

another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30 from

12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

never been much on the whole skinny thing.

Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I exercise

on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have to

workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

weight/number.

Thanks for listening to me ramble.

Mike in GR

[Guest guest]

You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could kill that large of

a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good and that is all

I have to say.

Lhsh@...

American by birth,

Saved by the grace of God.

fluid intake and yet more examples of why

the number/weight is junk

Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out I

drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I killed

that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

(these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere around

56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an hour

straight or anything crazy like that.

Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third bottle of

tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-8 I

drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and 291 on

my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I guess

I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've not

moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood pressure

machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed away

from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty cool.

I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30 minutes

prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and did

some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It said I

weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my BMI

was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six month

appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking scale

tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal weight.

Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what my

weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I really

get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu lot

and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to lose

another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30 from

12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

never been much on the whole skinny thing.

Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I exercise

on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have to

workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

weight/number.

Thanks for listening to me ramble.

Mike in GR

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Congratulations Mike - your numbers are very impressive.

Sue

---- Mike websculpt@...> wrote:

=============

Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out I

drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I killed

that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

(these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere around

56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an hour

straight or anything crazy like that.

Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third bottle of

tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-8 I

drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and 291 on

my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I guess

I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've not

moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood pressure

machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed away

from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty cool.

I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30 minutes

prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and did

some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It said I

weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my BMI

was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six month

appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking scale

tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal weight.

Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what my

weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I really

get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu lot

and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to lose

another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30 from

12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

never been much on the whole skinny thing.

Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I exercise

on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have to

workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

weight/number.

Thanks for listening to me ramble.

Mike in GR

[Guest guest]

--- why would you drink that much so fast? i have been told by my

surgeon over filling the pouch will stretch it out. he uses a

balloon has a example.. put water in a balloon n it gets bigger, n

does not go back to original shape, ever.. i think i ll choose to

drin easily... we each have ways to do things.. keep up the good

weight loss n execise. c ya donna In GastricBypass-

LOSERS , " Lin Hunnicutt " wrote:

>

> You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could kill

that large of

> a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good and

that is all

> I have to say.

> Lhsh@...

> American by birth,

> Saved by the grace of God.

>

> fluid intake and yet more examples

of why

> the number/weight is junk

>

>

> Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out I

> drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

> thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

> morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

> daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I

killed

> that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

> (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere

around

> 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

> only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an hour

> straight or anything crazy like that.

>

> Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third bottle

of

> tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

> Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

>

> The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

> quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-

8 I

> drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

> with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

> taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

>

> Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and 291

on

> my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I

guess

> I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've

not

> moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

> consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

> couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

>

> So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

> workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood pressure

> machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed

away

> from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

> arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

> started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty

cool.

>

> I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

> heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30 minutes

> prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and did

> some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It said

I

> weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my

BMI

> was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

> conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

> 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

>

> Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six month

> appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

> months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

> up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

> jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking

scale

> tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal

weight.

> Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

> scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what my

> weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I really

> get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

> pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu

lot

> and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to

lose

> another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

> care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30 from

> 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

> sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

> never been much on the whole skinny thing.

>

> Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I

exercise

> on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have

to

> workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> weight/number.

>

> Thanks for listening to me ramble.

>

> Mike in GR

>

>

>

>

>

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I agree. LOL I'd be puking!

W

380/264/160

Lin Hunnicutt wrote:

> You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could kill that large of

> a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good and that is all

> I have to say.

> Lhsh@...

> American by birth,

> Saved by the grace of God.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike is just an overachiever. It didn't take me long to realize he

doesn't do anything halfway.

in MI

>

> You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could kill that

large of

> a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good and that

is all

> I have to say.

> Lhsh@...

> American by birth,

> Saved by the grace of God.

>

> fluid intake and yet more examples

of why

> the number/weight is junk

>

>

> Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out I

> drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

> thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

> morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

> daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I killed

> that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

> (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere around

> 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

> only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an hour

> straight or anything crazy like that.

>

> Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third bottle of

> tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

> Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

>

> The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

> quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-8 I

> drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

> with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

> taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

>

> Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and 291 on

> my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I guess

> I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've not

> moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

> consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

> couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

>

> So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

> workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood pressure

> machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed away

> from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

> arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

> started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty cool.

>

> I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

> heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30 minutes

> prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and did

> some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It said I

> weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my BMI

> was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

> conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

> 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

>

> Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six month

> appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

> months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

> up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

> jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking scale

> tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal weight.

> Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

> scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what my

> weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I really

> get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

> pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu lot

> and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to lose

> another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

> care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30 from

> 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

> sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

> never been much on the whole skinny thing.

>

> Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I exercise

> on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have to

> workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> weight/number.

>

> Thanks for listening to me ramble.

>

> Mike in GR

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I guess I don't view it as that fast. It's not as if I'm trying to

obtain a certain amount or win a contest. I drink plenty in a day, if

I felt uncomfortable with this amount, going to the bathroom often,

feeling too full, etc. I wouldn't drink this much this " fast " .

On the contrary, I find that drinking 32 or more ounces soon before

going to the gym at work hydrates me well for my workout. I've always

been a big water drinker especially when involved in physical

activity. When I worked at UPS almost two decades ago it wasn't

unusual for me to drink around eight liters of water in a less than

four hour shift with only needing to go to the restroom once or

twice. I did/do tend to sweat A LOT, it is/was quite gross I suppose.

The balloon analogy is interesting. I hadn't considered that the

pouch would be such a closed container especially where fluids are

concerned. It seems incongruent with my surgeons' recommendations

that I avoid using liquid meal/food supplements (protein shakes) or

even slightly caloric liquids (juices, soups, etc.) as they don't

give that full sensation. Then there's my PCP who, when told at 3

months by me that I was drinking 64-80oz, commented that my urine was

too concentrated and that I should drink over 100oz a day.

I'll have to try filling a balloon with water again because I would

have thought a balloon would go back to very close to its original

shape unless the water remained inside the balloon for an extended

period (maybe something like a full day). A long retention period for

water in the stomach seems to clash with my surgeon's recommendation

to avoid eating only 15 minutes after drinking fluids.

Mike in GR (I'll drink to that!)

> >

> > You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could kill

> that large of

> > a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good and

> that is all

> > I have to say.

> > Lhsh@

> > American by birth,

> > Saved by the grace of God.

> >

> > fluid intake and yet more

examples

> of why

> > the number/weight is junk

> >

> >

> > Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out

I

> > drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

> > thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

> > morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

> > daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I

> killed

> > that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

> > (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere

> around

> > 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

> > only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an

hour

> > straight or anything crazy like that.

> >

> > Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third

bottle

> of

> > tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

> > Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

> >

> > The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

> > quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-

> 8 I

> > drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

> > with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

> > taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

> >

> > Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and

291

> on

> > my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I

> guess

> > I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've

> not

> > moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

> > consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

> > couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

> >

> > So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

> > workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood

pressure

> > machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed

> away

> > from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

> > arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

> > started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty

> cool.

> >

> > I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

> > heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30

minutes

> > prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and

did

> > some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It

said

> I

> > weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my

> BMI

> > was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

> > conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

> > 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

> >

> > Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six

month

> > appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

> > months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

> > up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

> > jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking

> scale

> > tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal

> weight.

> > Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

> > scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what

my

> > weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I

really

> > get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

> > pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu

> lot

> > and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to

> lose

> > another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

> > care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30

from

> > 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

> > sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

> > never been much on the whole skinny thing.

> >

> > Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I

> exercise

> > on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have

> to

> > workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> > weight/number.

> >

> > Thanks for listening to me ramble.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

,

You're HIRED! Now tell my friends, family (teenage children

especially) and employer!

Mike in GR

> >

> > You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could kill

that

> large of

> > a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good and

that

> is all

> > I have to say.

> > Lhsh@

> > American by birth,

> > Saved by the grace of God.

> >

> > fluid intake and yet more examples

> of why

> > the number/weight is junk

> >

> >

> > Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out

I

> > drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

> > thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

> > morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

> > daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I

killed

> > that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

> > (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere

around

> > 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

> > only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an

hour

> > straight or anything crazy like that.

> >

> > Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third

bottle of

> > tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

> > Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

> >

> > The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

> > quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-

8 I

> > drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

> > with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

> > taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

> >

> > Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and

291 on

> > my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I

guess

> > I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've

not

> > moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

> > consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

> > couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

> >

> > So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

> > workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood

pressure

> > machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed

away

> > from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

> > arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

> > started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty

cool.

> >

> > I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

> > heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30

minutes

> > prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and

did

> > some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It

said I

> > weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my

BMI

> > was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

> > conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

> > 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

> >

> > Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six

month

> > appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

> > months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

> > up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

> > jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking

scale

> > tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal

weight.

> > Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

> > scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what

my

> > weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I

really

> > get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

> > pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu

lot

> > and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to

lose

> > another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

> > care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30

from

> > 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

> > sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

> > never been much on the whole skinny thing.

> >

> > Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I

exercise

> > on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have

to

> > workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> > weight/number.

> >

> > Thanks for listening to me ramble.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

WOW Mike!!!

You are doing great!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!

Hugs!!!!

>

> Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out I

> drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

> thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

> morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

> daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I

killed

> that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

> (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere

around

> 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

> only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an hour

> straight or anything crazy like that.

>

> Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third bottle

of

> tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

> Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

>

> The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

> quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-8

I

> drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

> with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

> taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

>

> Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and 291

on

> my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I

guess

> I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've

not

> moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

> consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

> couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

>

> So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

> workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood pressure

> machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed

away

> from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

> arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

> started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty

cool.

>

> I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

> heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30 minutes

> prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and did

> some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It said

I

> weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my

BMI

> was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

> conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

> 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

>

> Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six month

> appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

> months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

> up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

> jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking

scale

> tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal

weight.

> Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

> scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what my

> weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I really

> get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

> pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu

lot

> and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to

lose

> another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

> care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30 from

> 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

> sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

> never been much on the whole skinny thing.

>

> Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I

exercise

> on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have

to

> workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> weight/number.

>

> Thanks for listening to me ramble.

>

> Mike in GR

>

[Guest guest]

What does it pay??

in MI

> > >

> > > You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could kill

> that

> > large of

> > > a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good and

> that

> > is all

> > > I have to say.

> > > Lhsh@

> > > American by birth,

> > > Saved by the grace of God.

> > >

> > > fluid intake and yet more examples

> > of why

> > > the number/weight is junk

> > >

> > >

> > > Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns out

> I

> > > drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as previously

> > > thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate this

> > > morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

> > > daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I

> killed

> > > that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of water

> > > (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to somewhere

> around

> > > 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's really

> > > only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for an

> hour

> > > straight or anything crazy like that.

> > >

> > > Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third

> bottle of

> > > tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about 106oz.

> > > Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

> > >

> > > The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in the

> > > quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of Spicy V-

> 8 I

> > > drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling them

> > > with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium, cheaper,

> > > taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

> > >

> > > Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288 and

> 291 on

> > > my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long. I

> guess

> > > I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression I've

> not

> > > moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

> > > consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up every

> > > couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

> > >

> > > So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed after my

> > > workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood

> pressure

> > > machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've shyed

> away

> > > from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my fat

> > > arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't even

> > > started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there. Pretty

> cool.

> > >

> > > I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76 with a

> > > heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30

> minutes

> > > prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went and

> did

> > > some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It

> said I

> > > weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said my

> BMI

> > > was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads me to

> > > conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm obese at

> > > 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

> > >

> > > Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six

> month

> > > appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next six

> > > months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've toned

> > > up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all that

> > > jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the freaking

> scale

> > > tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal

> weight.

> > > Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on the

> > > scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of what

> my

> > > weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I

> really

> > > get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down 212

> > > pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a hellavu

> lot

> > > and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need to

> lose

> > > another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I really

> > > care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-30

> from

> > > 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer. That

> > > sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then I've

> > > never been much on the whole skinny thing.

> > >

> > > Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I

> exercise

> > > on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll have

> to

> > > workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> > > weight/number.

> > >

> > > Thanks for listening to me ramble.

> > >

> > > Mike in GR

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Unfortuantly I'm pretty broke. I can only pay you in Healthy Choice

and Hormel Turkey Chili.

Mike in GR

> > > >

> > > > You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could

kill

> > that

> > > large of

> > > > a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good

and

> > that

> > > is all

> > > > I have to say.

> > > > Lhsh@

> > > > American by birth,

> > > > Saved by the grace of God.

> > > >

> > > > fluid intake and yet more

examples

> > > of why

> > > > the number/weight is junk

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns

out

> > I

> > > > drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as

previously

> > > > thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate

this

> > > > morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

> > > > daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I

> > killed

> > > > that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of

water

> > > > (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to

somewhere

> > around

> > > > 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's

really

> > > > only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for

an

> > hour

> > > > straight or anything crazy like that.

> > > >

> > > > Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third

> > bottle of

> > > > tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about

106oz.

> > > > Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

> > > >

> > > > The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in

the

> > > > quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of

Spicy V-

> > 8 I

> > > > drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling

them

> > > > with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium,

cheaper,

> > > > taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

> > > >

> > > > Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288

and

> > 291 on

> > > > my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long.

I

> > guess

> > > > I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression

I've

> > not

> > > > moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

> > > > consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up

every

> > > > couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

> > > >

> > > > So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed

after my

> > > > workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood

> > pressure

> > > > machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've

shyed

> > away

> > > > from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my

fat

> > > > arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't

even

> > > > started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there.

Pretty

> > cool.

> > > >

> > > > I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76

with a

> > > > heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30

> > minutes

> > > > prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went

and

> > did

> > > > some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It

> > said I

> > > > weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said

my

> > BMI

> > > > was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads

me to

> > > > conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm

obese at

> > > > 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

> > > >

> > > > Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six

> > month

> > > > appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next

six

> > > > months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've

toned

> > > > up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all

that

> > > > jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the

freaking

> > scale

> > > > tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal

> > weight.

> > > > Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on

the

> > > > scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of

what

> > my

> > > > weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I

> > really

> > > > get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down

212

> > > > pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a

hellavu

> > lot

> > > > and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need

to

> > lose

> > > > another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I

really

> > > > care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-

30

> > from

> > > > 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer.

That

> > > > sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then

I've

> > > > never been much on the whole skinny thing.

> > > >

> > > > Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I

> > exercise

> > > > on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll

have

> > to

> > > > workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> > > > weight/number.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for listening to me ramble.

> > > >

> > > > Mike in GR

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > 11/27/2006

> > > >

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> > > >

[Guest guest]

That sounds good to me. That turkey chili sounds pretty darn good.

Lin

Lhsh@...

American by birth,

Saved by the grace of God.

fluid intake and yet more

examples

> > > of why

> > > > the number/weight is junk

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It turns

out

> > I

> > > > drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as

previously

> > > > thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate

this

> > > > morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by my

> > > > daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that! I

> > killed

> > > > that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of

water

> > > > (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to

somewhere

> > around

> > > > 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's

really

> > > > only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for

an

> > hour

> > > > straight or anything crazy like that.

> > > >

> > > > Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third

> > bottle of

> > > > tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about

106oz.

> > > > Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

> > > >

> > > > The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive in

the

> > > > quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of

Spicy V-

> > 8 I

> > > > drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling

them

> > > > with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium,

cheaper,

> > > > taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

> > > >

> > > > Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288

and

> > 291 on

> > > > my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long.

I

> > guess

> > > > I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression

I've

> > not

> > > > moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if you

> > > > consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up

every

> > > > couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

> > > >

> > > > So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed

after my

> > > > workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood

> > pressure

> > > > machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've

shyed

> > away

> > > > from these in the past because they simply can't cope with my

fat

> > > > arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't

even

> > > > started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there.

Pretty

> > cool.

> > > >

> > > > I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76

with a

> > > > heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30

> > minutes

> > > > prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went

and

> > did

> > > > some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me. It

> > said I

> > > > weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still said

my

> > BMI

> > > > was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads

me to

> > > > conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm

obese at

> > > > 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

> > > >

> > > > Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my six

> > month

> > > > appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the next

six

> > > > months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've

toned

> > > > up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great, all

that

> > > > jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the

freaking

> > scale

> > > > tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal

> > weight.

> > > > Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on

the

> > > > scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of

what

> > my

> > > > weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I

> > really

> > > > get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down

212

> > > > pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a

hellavu

> > lot

> > > > and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need

to

> > lose

> > > > another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I

really

> > > > care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-

30

> > from

> > > > 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer.

That

> > > > sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then

I've

> > > > never been much on the whole skinny thing.

> > > >

> > > > Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I

> > exercise

> > > > on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll

have

> > to

> > > > workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> > > > weight/number.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for listening to me ramble.

> > > >

> > > > Mike in GR

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Not sure where you are Lin but it's on sale at Meijer (which is in

WI, IL, KY, MI, OH and I think PA) this week for $1 a can. It's

usually anywhere from $1.40 - $1.60 depending on which Meijer you

shop (I know weird that they price chili different at different

stores).

I've purchased 30 or so cans because I like it and to be able to

ethically invoke a rain check (I bought all they had on the shelf). I

have returned to the store to get more rain checks too.

Mike in GR

> > > > >

> > > > > You have lost your mind and there is not way that I could

> kill

> > > that

> > > > large of

> > > > > a bottle in that short of amount of time, you are just good

> and

> > > that

> > > > is all

> > > > > I have to say.

> > > > > Lhsh@

> > > > > American by birth,

> > > > > Saved by the grace of God.

> > > > >

> > > > > fluid intake and yet more

> examples

> > > > of why

> > > > > the number/weight is junk

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Let's start off with driving into work this morning. It

turns

> out

> > > I

> > > > > drank the 32oz of crystal light in 5 minutes not 9 as

> previously

> > > > > thought. Of course I might have been being more deliberate

> this

> > > > > morning but there you are. I then grabbed a half drank (by

my

> > > > > daughter) bottle of water. Man I hate it when kids do that!

I

> > > killed

> > > > > that pretty quick so followed it up with a fresh bottle of

> water

> > > > > (these bottles were 1/2 liters). That figures out to

> somewhere

> > > around

> > > > > 56oz on the 14-15 minute drive into work. Scary eh? That's

> really

> > > > > only 4oz a minute. Not so much if you aren't doing that for

> an

> > > hour

> > > > > straight or anything crazy like that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course now, after working out, I've finished up my third

> > > bottle of

> > > > > tea/water after my workout/shower which means I'm at about

> 106oz.

> > > > > Wild. I've gone to the bathroom twice this morning.

> > > > >

> > > > > The bottled stuff is crap though because it's so expensive

in

> the

> > > > > quantities I drink it. I'm going to take the 46oz jugs of

> Spicy V-

> > > 8 I

> > > > > drink over 10 business days, wash them out and start filling

> them

> > > > > with crystal light in the morning. It'll be less sodium,

> cheaper,

> > > > > taste great, less filling (had to add that pun).

> > > > >

> > > > > Back to why weight is crap. I've been weighing between 288

> and

> > > 291 on

> > > > > my parent's scale for a good month now. Maybe not that long.

> I

> > > guess

> > > > > I don't keep very good track. Anyway, I have the impression

> I've

> > > not

> > > > > moved for a good month numbers wise. Sort of depressing if

you

> > > > > consider how much I work out now, that I try to ramp it up

> every

> > > > > couple of weeks, watch what I eat, the whole nine yards.

> > > > >

> > > > > So this morning I finish up my shower and getting dressed

> after my

> > > > > workout and decide to use the free sphygmomanometer (blood

> > > pressure

> > > > > machine) provided by the company near the cafeteria. I've

> shyed

> > > away

> > > > > from these in the past because they simply can't cope with

my

> fat

> > > > > arms. Well this one did seem to be a bit tight and we hadn't

> even

> > > > > started the measuring yet but I did get my arm in there.

> Pretty

> > > cool.

> > > > >

> > > > > I ran the machine for blood pressure test and it was 110/76

> with a

> > > > > heart rate of 112 I think. Pretty sweet considering only 30

> > > minutes

> > > > > prior I was finishing up my 1.25hrs in the gym. I then went

> and

> > > did

> > > > > some other tests. I had no idea this thing would weigh me.

It

> > > said I

> > > > > weighed 279lbs. Well that's weird now isn't it? It still

said

> my

> > > BMI

> > > > > was 37 which is very obese of course. All of this just leads

> me to

> > > > > conclude that my weight, number wise, is junk. I mean I'm

> obese at

> > > > > 279 and obese at 290 or so. What's the point?

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course it's nice to compare the 279 from the 328 at my

six

> > > month

> > > > > appointment where they said I'd only lose 40lbs over the

next

> six

> > > > > months. In your face! Also, what REALLY matters is that I've

> toned

> > > > > up, lost inches in the waist and shirt sizes, feel great,

all

> that

> > > > > jazz. None of that really has jack to do with what the

> freaking

> > > scale

> > > > > tells me. Maybe it's that my surgeon never emphasized a goal

> > > weight.

> > > > > Maybe it's that I've always had a high weight number wise on

> the

> > > > > scale since I can remember. I'm not sure. But the number of

> what

> > > my

> > > > > weight is and, to a lesser extent, my BMI, isn't something I

> > > really

> > > > > get into much. Still, if 279 is accurate that means I'm down

> 212

> > > > > pounds since August of 2005. There's no denying that's a

> hellavu

> > > lot

> > > > > and makes a big difference health wise. I guess I still need

> to

> > > lose

> > > > > another 60. Maybe another 80? Heck I dunno. I'm not sure I

> really

> > > > > care at this point. Maybe if we figure I'll lose another 20-

> 30

> > > from

> > > > > 12-18 months? That means I'd be down to 250lbs this summer.

> That

> > > > > sounds fine by me. Hardly what I'd consider skinny but then

> I've

> > > > > never been much on the whole skinny thing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Uh oh though, if I start putting in 279 into the machines I

> > > exercise

> > > > > on the calorie burn will be slower/lessened. That means I'll

> have

> > > to

> > > > > workout harder. Yet another reason to hate dealing with the

> > > > > weight/number.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for listening to me ramble.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike in GR

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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