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I've heard it's because they can't convert something in their bodies so they

build Vit A up in their systems. Any biochemists help me out?

Barb

[ ] orange palms

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> I am trying to tackle the next issue... which is orange palms and

> soles of feet. I realize this could be because my son eats too many

> orange/red/yellow things, but he really doesn't eat a whole lot of

> them. Do orange palms mean he is too high in vit A? What causes

> this? Any info?

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> TIA

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Hi there i dont have an answer for this, but i would like to share that my

daughter also has this problem. She is orange all over, but her palms and

bottoms of feet are the worst. She eats some yellow and orange vegetables

but not a lot. I had her liver checked and it came back fine, so i know it

is not that. I also heard that it is a conversion problem in the body. I

would appreciate some feedback on this as well. Thanks Rochelle

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>Subject: Re: [ ] orange palms

>Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:58:03 -0500

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>I've heard it's because they can't convert something in their bodies so

>they

>build Vit A up in their systems. Any biochemists help me out?

>Barb

> [ ] orange palms

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> > I am trying to tackle the next issue... which is orange palms and

> > soles of feet. I realize this could be because my son eats too many

> > orange/red/yellow things, but he really doesn't eat a whole lot of

> > them. Do orange palms mean he is too high in vit A? What causes

> > this? Any info?

> >

> > TIA

> >

> > a

> > mom to

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hi paula my daughter is orange just like your son. She has it all over her

body, but worst on the palms of hand and bottoms of feet. Her armpits are

also orange. I had my daughter's thyroid levels checked and they came back

normal. I even tried taking her off of orange foods for a month and she

still stayed orange as a pumpkin. I really wish i could figure this one

out. rochelle

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>Subject: [ ] Re: orange palms

>Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:11:57 -0000

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>That's kind of where I thought the vit A came in. I'm finding out

>that the thyroid could be part of this picture. He is just the

>skinniest little guy that can't gain weight, so to give him something

>for low thyroid function is scary as it might cause weight loss???

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>I need help understanding this. I'm not sure how harmful this is for

>him, but even his armpits are as orange as our pumpkins.

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>Thanks

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> > I've heard it's because they can't convert something in their

>bodies so they

> > build Vit A up in their systems. Any biochemists help me out?

> > Barb

> > [ ] orange palms

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> > >

> > >

> > > I am trying to tackle the next issue... which is orange palms and

> > > soles of feet. I realize this could be because my son eats too

>many

> > > orange/red/yellow things, but he really doesn't eat a whole lot of

> > > them. Do orange palms mean he is too high in vit A? What causes

> > > this? Any info?

> > >

> > > TIA

> > >

> > > a

> > > mom to

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Hi Rochelle. I have read that " normal testing " for thyroid funtion

is not totally reliable. Now, what testing that is, I don't know, T3

and T4 levels, maybe. And that a trial of meds is the best

indication as to whether it is needed.

My son has little bile output, not sure if liver function is related

or not. I am trying to support his liver/liver funtion with milk

thistle and phosphatidyl choline.

It's good to see that avoiding these foods didn't do any good, I

mean, I'm glad it's not some other food that we have to remove! Ugh.

Thank you

a

> hi paula my daughter is orange just like your son. She has it all

over her

> body, but worst on the palms of hand and bottoms of feet. Her

armpits are

> also orange. I had my daughter's thyroid levels checked and they

came back

> normal. I even tried taking her off of orange foods for a month

and she

> still stayed orange as a pumpkin. I really wish i could figure

this one

> out. rochelle

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hi paula i think i head that also about the thyroid testing. I had the

T3, T4, and TSH done on cayla. She just recently had the liver panel done

and it was normal also. I have heard that mercury can cause this. I have

heard from a couple of parents that after chelating the orange skin went

away. rochelle

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>Subject: [ ] Re: orange palms

>Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:32:33 -0000

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>Hi Rochelle. I have read that " normal testing " for thyroid funtion

>is not totally reliable. Now, what testing that is, I don't know, T3

>and T4 levels, maybe. And that a trial of meds is the best

>indication as to whether it is needed.

>

>My son has little bile output, not sure if liver function is related

>or not. I am trying to support his liver/liver funtion with milk

>thistle and phosphatidyl choline.

>

>It's good to see that avoiding these foods didn't do any good, I

>mean, I'm glad it's not some other food that we have to remove! Ugh.

>

>Thank you

>a

>

>

>

> > hi paula my daughter is orange just like your son. She has it all

>over her

> > body, but worst on the palms of hand and bottoms of feet. Her

>armpits are

> > also orange. I had my daughter's thyroid levels checked and they

>came back

> > normal. I even tried taking her off of orange foods for a month

>and she

> > still stayed orange as a pumpkin. I really wish i could figure

>this one

> > out. rochelle

> >

>

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I just found this on another site...hope this helps...see orange

palms under eye symptoms.....ps I am pretty skiinny and I am very

hypo...

HYPO SYMPTOMS

Abdominal pain and distention

Anemia

Aversion to cold (Cold intolerance)

Brain Function problems which include:

Confusion,

Disorientation,

Mental fog,

Memory loss - Brain fog

Carpal tunnel syndrome

Constipation - the more hypo we become, the more severe this becomes

Decreased body temperature

Depression which worse if patient moves into myxedema coma

Dry coarse skin and hair

Edema

Emotional lability <unable to control one's emotions>

Enlarged muscle fibers with muscle weakness (Hoffman's syndrome)

Eyebrows stop growing, <outer 1/3 of eyebrows stop growing or have

limited

growth>

Fatigue

Feeling of being overwhelmed

Goiter

Headache

Hearing loss, deafness

Heavy menses & cramping

High cholesterol and lipid levels

Hoarse voice

Impaired blood clotting

Impaired digestion

Impaired skeletal growth

Increased capillary fragility (bruising)

Increased creatine phosphokinase (CPK) level

Increased diastolic blood pressure

Increased fertility problems

Increased menstrual cycle

Irregular heart rate (bradycardia)

Joint pain

Lack of motivation

Loss of initiative

Muscle pain

Myxedema (waterlogged appearance of skin) puffy eyes, face, hands,

feet

Nails changes, nails split, break, get thickened

Nasal stuffiness, dry throat

Nocturnal paresthesia (hands or legs falling asleep)

Nutrient deficiencies

Palpitations

Severe hair loss

Severe weight gain even when not eating much

Sinus problems and or infections

Sleep apnea

Sleepiness, lethargy, insomnia, interupted sleep

Slow speech

Thickened, dry tongue,( dry mouth)

EYE SYMPTOMS

EYE DISEASE SYPTOMS

Bad night vision <malabsorption of vitamin A, causing orange tinted

palms, poor

night vision>

Blurring of vision

Bulging eyes

Double vision

Dry eyes

Eyestrain

Inability to close eyes to sleep (Eye lids don't close fully or

remain fully

closed through he night?)

Lid lag

Sensitive to light, even indoors

Staring

Swelling of eyes

Tearing

Ulceration

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> > I am trying to tackle the next issue... which is orange palms and

> > soles of feet. I realize this could be because my son eats too

many

> > orange/red/yellow things, but he really doesn't eat a whole lot

of

> > them. Do orange palms mean he is too high in vit A? What causes

> > this? Any info?

> >

> > TIA

> >

> > a

> > mom to

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> I am trying to tackle the next issue... which is orange palms and

> soles of feet. I realize this could be because my son eats too many

> orange/red/yellow things, but he really doesn't eat a whole lot of

> them. Do orange palms mean he is too high in vit A? What causes

> this? Any info?

This can be lutein/carotene intolerance. My son had this problem.

The body needs zinc, vitamin C, and thyroid hormone to convert

carotene into vitamin A. Even after full chelation, and adding zinc

and vitamin C, my son still will not convert carotenes into vitamin A,

so I have added iodine, altho not sure it is doing anything or not.

Try removing all luteins and carotenes [basically, anything orange and

green, can also include yellow and red]. My son was lutein/carotene

free for about 18 months, until chelation removed that problem.

Basically, it would NOT mean he is too high in vitamin A, it probably

means he is not converting it.

Dana

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I distinctly remember that when No-Fenol enzymes (Houstons) came out,

several parents reported that their child's 'orange palms' went away

and returned to a typical color.

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Thanks . I have just upped his N-F to 3/4cap per meal. I'll

keep looking for a change!

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> I distinctly remember that when No-Fenol enzymes (Houstons) came

out,

> several parents reported that their child's 'orange palms' went

away

> and returned to a typical color.

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