Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

They are prescription pills, the doctor prescribed them. They are large, I think

I had to take about 4 or 5 every half hour with a glass of water, total of 30

maybe, my mind is shot, sorry. That was after not eating that day too, but you

can have lots of liquids. Nope, no disgusting white stuff. Suddenly you get

cleaned out maybe two times then have nothing but water for about 2 hours, it

wasnt so bad, the worse thing was not having coffee the next morning before the

colonoscopy. ~Dianna

Nonnie nonnie_nt@...> wrote:what kind of pills was it? You didn't have to

drink a disgusting liquid?

Nonnie

Re: (unknown)

I took the pills to clean out for the colonoscopy, it was great and easy.

And yes, the procedure itself is a breeze. A piece of cake. ~~Dianna

Hil hilsshop@...> wrote:I did not find a colonoscopy painful

at all. Actually the cleaning out stuff did not taste that bad just the idea

of it I think. You are given a IV and with me it just relaxes me. Some

people go to sleep with it and don't even know they had a colonoscopy. I

watch mine on the monitor and talk to the Dr while he is doing it:)

With the CT scan you also need to drink some stuff which is not a laxative

and have a IV with the dye.

A Pet scan you are given radioactive stuff through a IV and have to sit for

it to go through your system then spend a hour getting scanned inside a

tube. The CT is more expensive then the colonoscopy and the PET Scan is

extremely expensive and I doubt any insurance company would pay for it

without a good reason. They probably would not pay for a CT without a good

reason. I personally feel the best way to detect colon cancer or to prevent

it by removing any polyps found is with the colonoscopy. They have a better

view of your colon then anything else. With your CT or PET scan they would

not be able to remove any polyps which could be cancer or precancer. If they

find any and remove it you won't feel a thing or maybe a slight pinch. The

thought of having it done is worse then the actual procedure. Please get one

done ASAP. I really did not have any symptoms except occasional constipation

I was not even mentioning to my Dr. Thankfully one day I casually mentioned

it and a colonosopy was

ordered. It saved my life as it caught it at stage 2. I have been scared

silly of all these tests but now had them all I worried for nothing.

Hil

(unknown)

A question please.

Why does one have a colonoscopy and have to drink the awful solution.

Would it be appropriate to have a PET and/or CT scan which is a lot less

painful. However, I do want to do what is best to determine if there is a

cancer. Also, would blood work show the cancer.

Thank you - Bonnie

[Guest guest]

BONNIE,

PLEASE DRINK THE LIQUID AND HAVE THE TEST. I PROLONGED IT TOO AND IF I WOULD

HAVE HAD IT DONE, PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE HERE NOW TALKING TO YOU. BECAUSE I WOULD

HAVE WENT IN TIME TO HAVE IT REMOVED DURING THE COLONOSCOPY INSTEAD OF HAVING

CANCER LIKE I DO NOW. TRUST ME, THERE IS NOTHING TO IT. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I

HAD IT DONE, WAS OUT LIKE A LIGHT. FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT PET AND CT SCANS,

THEY DON'T SHOW UP A LOT, NOT LIKE COLONOSCOPY DOES. AS FOR BLOOD WORK, IT

DOESN'T ALWAYS SHOW UP CANCER EITHER. SO DO THE COLONOSCOPY, THAT'S YOUR BEST

BET !

Retirement2004@... wrote:

A question please.

Why does one have a colonoscopy and have to drink the awful solution. Would it

be appropriate to have a PET and/or CT scan which is a lot less painful.

However, I do want to do what is best to determine if there is a cancer. Also,

would blood work show the cancer.

Thank you - Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Oh I was miserable, it was just too humiliating.... I was so mad at the

nurse or tech who did the scan. They could have had a potty chair there

in that room. The only revenge I got is knowing he had to clean my shit

up... LOL... Jolene

ME wrote:

> MY LORD...........WHAT KIND OF CT SCAN IS THAT? NEVER HEARD OF ALL

> THAT HAPPENING. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN MISERABLE, JOLENE.

>

> Jolene Ehret jehret@...> wrote:My CT scan was most miserable

> experience in my life. Way more invasive

> and humiliating than my colonoscopy...

> I had to clean out ahead of time, drink this crap, and then he had to

> give me an enema and hold it.. Once I got off the table

> literally shit all over the floor and myself, and then had to leave that

> room, wrapped in a shitty sheet go across the hall

> to the bathroom to clean up and get dressed... Colonoscopy had to clean

> out, and and drink one little bottle of stuff to make me clean out...

> Was not near as troublesome. LOL... Thankfully my next CT scan is for my

> back so don't have to go through any prep.

> Jolene

>

> Retirement2004@... wrote:

>

> > A question please.

> >

>

>

> > Why does one have a colonoscopy and have to drink the awful solution.

> > Would it be appropriate to have a PET and/or CT scan which is a lot

> > less painful. However, I do want to do what is best to determine if

> > there is a cancer. Also, would blood work show the cancer.

> >

> > Thank you - Bonnie

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Wait, I took the pills every 15 minutes, not every half hour.

Dianna Brendle jasonsmom285@...> wrote:They are prescription pills, the

doctor prescribed them. They are large, I think I had to take about 4 or 5 every

half hour with a glass of water, total of 30 maybe, my mind is shot, sorry. That

was after not eating that day too, but you can have lots of liquids. Nope, no

disgusting white stuff. Suddenly you get cleaned out maybe two times then have

nothing but water for about 2 hours, it wasnt so bad, the worse thing was not

having coffee the next morning before the colonoscopy. ~Dianna

Nonnie nonnie_nt@...> wrote:what kind of pills was it? You didn't have to

drink a disgusting liquid?

Nonnie

Re: (unknown)

I took the pills to clean out for the colonoscopy, it was great and easy.

And yes, the procedure itself is a breeze. A piece of cake. ~~Dianna

Hil hilsshop@...> wrote:I did not find a colonoscopy painful

at all. Actually the cleaning out stuff did not taste that bad just the idea

of it I think. You are given a IV and with me it just relaxes me. Some

people go to sleep with it and don't even know they had a colonoscopy. I

watch mine on the monitor and talk to the Dr while he is doing it:)

With the CT scan you also need to drink some stuff which is not a laxative

and have a IV with the dye.

A Pet scan you are given radioactive stuff through a IV and have to sit for

it to go through your system then spend a hour getting scanned inside a

tube. The CT is more expensive then the colonoscopy and the PET Scan is

extremely expensive and I doubt any insurance company would pay for it

without a good reason. They probably would not pay for a CT without a good

reason. I personally feel the best way to detect colon cancer or to prevent

it by removing any polyps found is with the colonoscopy. They have a better

view of your colon then anything else. With your CT or PET scan they would

not be able to remove any polyps which could be cancer or precancer. If they

find any and remove it you won't feel a thing or maybe a slight pinch. The

thought of having it done is worse then the actual procedure. Please get one

done ASAP. I really did not have any symptoms except occasional constipation

I was not even mentioning to my Dr. Thankfully one day I casually mentioned

it and a colonosopy was

ordered. It saved my life as it caught it at stage 2. I have been scared

silly of all these tests but now had them all I worried for nothing.

Hil

(unknown)

A question please.

Why does one have a colonoscopy and have to drink the awful solution.

Would it be appropriate to have a PET and/or CT scan which is a lot less

painful. However, I do want to do what is best to determine if there is a

cancer. Also, would blood work show the cancer.

Thank you - Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Goodness I didn't have to take that many.. LOL.. I am trying to remember

I think last thing I had to do was do one of those little Fleet enema

things. So even thought I took wrong pills I really did get cleaned out

just fine.. JOlene

Dianna Brendle wrote:

> They are prescription pills, the doctor prescribed them. They are

> large, I think I had to take about 4 or 5 every half hour with a glass

> of water, total of 30 maybe, my mind is shot, sorry. That was after

> not eating that day too, but you can have lots of liquids. Nope, no

> disgusting white stuff. Suddenly you get cleaned out maybe two times

> then have nothing but water for about 2 hours, it wasnt so bad, the

> worse thing was not having coffee the next morning before the

> colonoscopy. ~Dianna

>

[Guest guest]

You are too funny - revenge is a good way to put it - needed that laugh,

Thanks!!

Jolene Ehret jehret@...> wrote:Oh I was miserable, it was just too

humiliating.... I was so mad at the

nurse or tech who did the scan. They could have had a potty chair there

in that room. The only revenge I got is knowing he had to clean my shit

up... LOL... Jolene

ME wrote:

> MY LORD...........WHAT KIND OF CT SCAN IS THAT? NEVER HEARD OF ALL

> THAT HAPPENING. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN MISERABLE, JOLENE.

>

> Jolene Ehret jehret@...> wrote:My CT scan was most miserable

> experience in my life. Way more invasive

> and humiliating than my colonoscopy...

> I had to clean out ahead of time, drink this crap, and then he had to

> give me an enema and hold it.. Once I got off the table

> literally shit all over the floor and myself, and then had to leave that

> room, wrapped in a shitty sheet go across the hall

> to the bathroom to clean up and get dressed... Colonoscopy had to clean

> out, and and drink one little bottle of stuff to make me clean out...

> Was not near as troublesome. LOL... Thankfully my next CT scan is for my

> back so don't have to go through any prep.

> Jolene

>

> Retirement2004@... wrote:

>

> > A question please.

> >

>

>

> > Why does one have a colonoscopy and have to drink the awful solution.

> > Would it be appropriate to have a PET and/or CT scan which is a lot

> > less painful. However, I do want to do what is best to determine if

> > there is a cancer. Also, would blood work show the cancer.

> >

> > Thank you - Bonnie

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I wondered about that Jolene. The last one I had they were going to inject

something I assume dye of some kind in my rectum. I wondered what would happen

if they did:) I know in the hospital after surgery they tried it but it all came

back out on the floor. Just the liquid they tried to put in. I have this

narrowing or striture and can't have a colonoscopy because they can't get in to

do one. I told them at the CT scan I did not think putting fluid in the recturm

was good idea and when I explained to them they agreed. Dr had said it would

show colon better. Geez I am glad it did not work:)

Hil

Re: (unknown)

MY LORD...........WHAT KIND OF CT SCAN IS THAT? NEVER HEARD OF ALL THAT

HAPPENING. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN MISERABLE, JOLENE.

Jolene Ehret jehret@...> wrote:My CT scan was most miserable

experience in my life. Way more invasive

and humiliating than my colonoscopy...

I had to clean out ahead of time, drink this crap, and then he had to

give me an enema and hold it.. Once I got off the table

literally shit all over the floor and myself, and then had to leave that

room, wrapped in a shitty sheet go across the hall

to the bathroom to clean up and get dressed... Colonoscopy had to clean

out, and and drink one little bottle of stuff to make me clean out...

Was not near as troublesome. LOL... Thankfully my next CT scan is for my

back so don't have to go through any prep.

Jolene

[Guest guest]

>>>I had to clean out ahead of time, drink this crap, and then he had to

give me an enema and hold it.. >>>

Yep,I had the same thing....twice...when in the hospital with the bowel

blockage. So miserable:(

nancy j

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[Guest guest]

Rivka

She is 32. I have been going thru this with her for 14 yrs now. No

problems till she was 18. Prior to that a perfect, beautiful, young woman.

Then at

18 she deicded she was no longer " under my thumb " and could do whatever she

pleased whenever she pleased ad ir I stood in her way, I felt her wrath.

She spent 4 years (during college), when home kicking in doors, hitting me,

raging, breaking MY things (never her things), and showing no sense or

remorse. Has told me I got what I deserved when I asked her why she behave

this

way.

After college, literally befriended ghetto people, produced 2 beautiful

children (my grandsons). Says she was abused by their father and then she

dumped

him and appeared to go back to " normal " for 4 years. One and !/2 yrs ago

hooked up with another convict( she met him during her internship in college in

Juvenile Probation). He was serving time for armed robbery, is 7 years her

junior. He got out last year and she ran off and married him a yr ago this

past May. At end of June, she had him arrested for domesticc violence ( said

he hit her, but no ,marks on her, later said she did it because she was mad

at him). He served a yr. She was pregnant with his child, a girl, born this

past Feb. He got out prior to baby's birth on " good " behavior. He locked

my little grandsons in their rooms and I had him arrested. Police found there

was a No Contact order that she and he were violating and he was sent back

to jail till this August. She, now mad at me, wouldn't let me see my

grandsons and I went to court for visitation.

I know she is using fraudulent credit cards, used my aunt's soc sec # fore

her own utilities, ran up the bills and now won't pay them. Owns her own

house that I helped her buy when she was normal, but isn't working because she

won't let hubby out of her sight. So neither of them work. She is pulling

cash advances off these credit cards to paynher bills. Has also used the

children's soc sec #s to get credit in their names. She gets welfare when she

shouldn't be and God only knows what else she is doing these days. She lives

like a queen and is constantly buying new things.

She and I went to counseling in June where she told me she wants no

relationship with me at all. My present therapist who seems sane says he feels

she

is Narcissistic not BP but may have BP traits. Has never cut, been depressed

unless she is out of money, never tried suicide. Has huge sense of

entitlement. Was horribly spoiled (by me) as a child. I reinforced in her

that SHE

could do no wrong. She was always so perfect, how could SHE ever be the one

at fault???!!!!!!!!!!!!

And this is the monster I created. Sociopath, Naricissist, Borderline? I

don't know. But I do know, I don't like what she is.

Jean

[Guest guest]

<...i keep my perspective by reminding myself that

about 10% of the pop. either has BP trtaits or

BPD-numbers vary, but it is prevelant. MOST i

(professionally) and we all personally never know we

are seeing. only the most afflicted-or those

w/co-morbid ds. get to treatment. >

Rivka,

We have a lot of common ground here.

I learned about BPD in 2000. At that time I searched

on the internet and saw the articles claiming a few

percent or so of the population had 5 of the DSM 9.

I did my own unscientific and biased count and

estimated BPD at 10%. I thought I was paranoid of BPD

back then.

Five years later I think 1/4 of the population has

significant traits of...or actually has an axis 2

disorder.

<...THIS is one of the hardest things a parent will go

thru short of the death of a child....and some feel it

is a slow painful death for all. >

Mine is hearing my son say he hates me...not seeing

him since June...seeing him once or twice a year...I'm

letting go of the hopes I had for him...just trying to

be ready if the tide changes.

Two daughters are doing fine...well-adjusted...one in

college...the other lives with me...she's starting to

assert a functional sense of self...*teenager*...lol.

My wife, me and my yougest daughter...A quiet peaceful

house without evidence of an emotional predator.

My x is angrier with me than when we divorced...now my

son is just as angry...its still all my fault.

Love to you and yours too.

--- rivka amygdala57@...> wrote:

> michael, i am on your side. i am on your

> side. and i am on

> everytone's side. THIS is one of the hardest things

> a parent will go

> thru short of the death of a child....and some feel

> it is a slow

> painful death for all.

> the brain can and does alter its physiologic

> function based on

> environment and there are permanent changes to the

> brain structure

> brought about by childhood and later environmental

> influences, though

> the earlier the larger the change.

> i keep my perspective by reminding myself that about

> 10% of the pop.

> either has BP trtaits or BPD-numbers vary, but it is

> prevelant. MOST i

> (professionally) and we all personally never know we

> are seeing. only

> the most afflicted-or those w/co-morbid ds. get to

> treatment. most

> muddle thru, often unhappily, some, some i know, and

> w/o tx find a

> niche-a calling, a job, a marriage, a large family,

> religion, etc tec

> and except for the infrequent flare-up when under

> extroidinary stress

> do ok. some even do well. i know a few docs, even

> one surgeon who do

> great professionally(one operated on me-neurosurgeon

> yet!), BUT

> rarely can overreact in his private

> life-interpersonal relationships,

> but keeps problems from professional life.

> even the BP's i have seen ALL have more than

> hope-they ALL can

> improve their lives, they all can seek stability,

> with or w/o(though

> for severe pts tx is often nec.) help. as they age

> they do find

> niches...like all of us the most exciting, but

> anxious years are the

> one with thew most freedom. to a BP i believe these

> are terrifying

> years where the sense that they dont know where they

> belong, or co

> nclusion that they do not belong creats much

> suffering, and maybe

> spurs the most self-destructive years in their, and

> the diseases

> years: age 15-34. after that things may calm

> down-dependimng on many

> things-family support(if they have not alienated

> everyone), whether

> they have been able to maintain a primary

> relationships, whether they

> have had any close relationships that

> were " healing " -the listr of

> factors are endless, as you know.

> BP's off meds-of course. only the very worst 10-20%

> generaLLY are

> prescribed medication. most common pattern of this

> 10% is to be on

> and off-therapy as well as medication.

> there are many, many, many ways to get control of

> sx; many, many,

> mnay stories of recovery(by this i mean attain high

> fx w/little

> disruption from still underlying presence of

> primitive def.

> mechanisms-i do not at this time believe that the

> brain ds-the

> integrity of the brain heals-that wouyld go against

> what we know of

> the brains fx; the physiologic changes in the brain

> caused by BPD-

> maybe some diminution with tx or a lower stress

> circumstances and

> over time) cure? what is cure? some are able to

> consistently not

> exhibit enough sx to no longer " qualify " for the

> dx-but that brings

> up the " labeling " dilemna and shortcomings of the

> whole DSM system.

> i believe a best case scenario is a relatively

> happy, productive

> stable individual, who takes care in not letting

> themselves be placed

> in a situation that has very high stress or speaks

> directly w/ stress

> to their individual issues.

> i work each day with and for my dtr to achieve this

> end.

> i hope and wish for all your children relief from

> this dreadful

> illness, and for us, to have a child who grows up,

> leaves the nest

> and who we can enjoy with the average amount of

> concern for.

> love, rivka

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Rita & ,

Belated Merry Christmas & Happy New Year and wishing you health and happiness in

2006.

S.

Rita DiClemente mamadee1@...> wrote:

Hi All!

and I want to take this opportunity to wish each and everyone of you a very

Merriest Christmas and Happiest of Holidays and may 2006 be the best!!!

Rita &

Till next time!

Love & Hugs

*************************************

Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because of them.

[Guest guest]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! DON'T!!!!!!!

I know you did this with the best intentions but please DON'T!! Every

one of the dozens and dozens of these I have ever seen is utter crap and

a hoax and that even includes things like sob stories about kids with

cancer and kids who have gone missing. In this case see

http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/invitation.asp but, and this

applies to EVERYBODY, ALWAYS check one of the hoax sites like

snopes.com or hoaxbusters.com before even thinking about sending one of

these crap emails on.

Why? All you are doing is ensuring people will end up receiving even

more spam. These type of emails are typically started by spammers

because they know lots of people will be sucked into sending them on and

on and on. Sooner or later someone will send it back to them and

typically by then it will have lots and lots of nice JUICY email

addresses for them to add to their list and presto - everybody gets even

more spam. Fortunately you were thoughtful/clever enough to delete off

all the previous addresses which were probably on the copy you received,

so even if anybody else sends it on without bothering to check its

validity you won't be guilty of adding their names to a spammer's list.

Unfortunately you will be guilty of adding , Bob and Dolores

unless the person who sends it also thinks to delete their names.

A good habit to get into when sending jokes or any other emails that are

likely to be forwarded and re-forwarded is to always use Bcc (blind

copy) to address your recipients. That way even when such emails end up

at spammers again as they inevitably will, all your friends' email

addresses won't end up being added to any spammers' lists because they

are hidden.

bebel@... wrote:

> Date: 2006/04/28 Fri AM 09:03:32 EDT

> PLEASE FORWARD THIS WARNING AMONG FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CONTACTS:

[Guest guest]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! DON'T!!!!!!!

I know you did this with the best intentions but please DON'T!! Every

one of the dozens and dozens of these I have ever seen is utter crap and

a hoax and that even includes things like sob stories about kids with

cancer and kids who have gone missing. In this case see

http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/invitation.asp but, and this

applies to EVERYBODY, ALWAYS check one of the hoax sites like

snopes.com or hoaxbusters.com before even thinking about sending one of

these crap emails on.

Why? All you are doing is ensuring people will end up receiving even

more spam. These type of emails are typically started by spammers

because they know lots of people will be sucked into sending them on and

on and on. Sooner or later someone will send it back to them and

typically by then it will have lots and lots of nice JUICY email

addresses for them to add to their list and presto - everybody gets even

more spam. Fortunately you were thoughtful/clever enough to delete off

all the previous addresses which were probably on the copy you received,

so even if anybody else sends it on without bothering to check its

validity you won't be guilty of adding their names to a spammer's list.

Unfortunately you will be guilty of adding , Bob and Dolores

unless the person who sends it also thinks to delete their names.

A good habit to get into when sending jokes or any other emails that are

likely to be forwarded and re-forwarded is to always use Bcc (blind

copy) to address your recipients. That way even when such emails end up

at spammers again as they inevitably will, all your friends' email

addresses won't end up being added to any spammers' lists because they

are hidden.

bebel@... wrote:

> Date: 2006/04/28 Fri AM 09:03:32 EDT

> PLEASE FORWARD THIS WARNING AMONG FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CONTACTS:

[Guest guest]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! DON'T!!!!!!!

I know you did this with the best intentions but please DON'T!! Every

one of the dozens and dozens of these I have ever seen is utter crap and

a hoax and that even includes things like sob stories about kids with

cancer and kids who have gone missing. In this case see

http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/invitation.asp but, and this

applies to EVERYBODY, ALWAYS check one of the hoax sites like

snopes.com or hoaxbusters.com before even thinking about sending one of

these crap emails on.

Why? All you are doing is ensuring people will end up receiving even

more spam. These type of emails are typically started by spammers

because they know lots of people will be sucked into sending them on and

on and on. Sooner or later someone will send it back to them and

typically by then it will have lots and lots of nice JUICY email

addresses for them to add to their list and presto - everybody gets even

more spam. Fortunately you were thoughtful/clever enough to delete off

all the previous addresses which were probably on the copy you received,

so even if anybody else sends it on without bothering to check its

validity you won't be guilty of adding their names to a spammer's list.

Unfortunately you will be guilty of adding , Bob and Dolores

unless the person who sends it also thinks to delete their names.

A good habit to get into when sending jokes or any other emails that are

likely to be forwarded and re-forwarded is to always use Bcc (blind

copy) to address your recipients. That way even when such emails end up

at spammers again as they inevitably will, all your friends' email

addresses won't end up being added to any spammers' lists because they

are hidden.

bebel@... wrote:

> Date: 2006/04/28 Fri AM 09:03:32 EDT

> PLEASE FORWARD THIS WARNING AMONG FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CONTACTS:

[Guest guest]

C. wrote

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! DON'T!!!!!!!

I know you did this with the best intentions but please DON'T!! Every

one of the dozens and dozens of these I have ever seen is utter crap and

a hoax and that even includes things like sob stories about kids with

cancer and kids who have gone missing. In this case see

http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/invitation.asp but, and this

applies to EVERYBODY, ALWAYS check one of the hoax sites like

snopes.com or hoaxbusters.com before even thinking about sending one of

these crap emails on.

You are right on target I agree 100%

PLS, OH

[Guest guest]

this supposed virus is a hoax, I received a similar email from a friend a couple

of days ago. I checked it out at snopes.com and they said it is a hoax so

please don't pass this on to anyone, just more useless mail

Donna HSP Ca

bebel@... wrote:

Date: 2006/04/28 Fri AM 09:03:32 EDT

PLEASE FORWARD THIS WARNING AMONG FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CONTACTS:

You should be alert during the next few days:

Do not open any message with an attached file called " Invitation "

regardless of who sent it to you.

It is a virus that opens an Olympic Torch which " burns " the

whole hard disc C of your computer. This virus will be received from

someone who has your e-mail address in his/her contact list, that is why

you should send this e-mail to all your contacts. It is better to

receive this message 25 times than to receive the virus and open it.

If you receive a mail called " invitation " , though sent by a

friend, do not open it and shut down your computer immediately.

This is the worst virus announced by CNN, it has been

classified by Microsoft as the most destructive virus ever.

This virus was discovered by McAfee yesterday, and there is

no repair yet for this kind of virus.

This virus simply destroys the Zero Sector of the Hard Disc,where

the vital information is kept.

SEND THIS E-MAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! , COPY T HIS E-MAIL

AND SEND IT TO YOUR FRIENDS AND REMEMBER: IF YOU SEND IT TO THEM,

YOU WILL BENEFIT ALL OF US

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna and welcome to the group. I hope you find it as informative and

fun as the rest of have.

Lin

422-338-250

Lhsh@...

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Saved by the grace of God.

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waiting for the insurance to ok everything

6. Date of WLS: Jan 2007

7. Surgeon's Name: Dr

8. Type of Surgery: Gastric by pass

9. Highest Pre Surgery Weight: 287 but now I am 260

10. Insurance or self pay: Insurance 50% and self pay 50%

11. What is the name of your insurance company that covered your

WLS: Medicade

12.Birthdate: 05/27/1959

13.Occupation: Dental Hygienist

14.Hobbies: Singing, Dancing, Dog breeding, showing and dog

activities.

15.Anything you would like the other members to know about you? I

have gained 100 lbs since 1997 after my divorce. Prior to that I

was not fat. I was a dental assistant for 20 years until I got my

degree in Dental hygiene and prior to that I was a flight

attendant. I have been considering this surgery for about 5 years

and I was putting it off thinking that I would loose weight on my

own however, it has proven to be impossible so I went ahead with all

of the pre op clearances and appointments and now I am just waiting

for the approval to proceed.

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12:21 PM

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Personally as a man, I like the sheer black outfits. I think they are not

only really classy, but the sexiest things I have ever seen.

Lin

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Hmm... I should have some men pick me out stuff they would like to see on a

woman seeing how I don't have a clue these days LOL!

Nichole nichole@...> wrote:

My husband has already chosen the first " sexy outfit " from s

secret. He is looking forward to being able to buy that stuff, and so

am I. I think it is a great accomplishment.

Nichole

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oooooh, thank you. I need ideas LOL! Even if I just flaunt for myself in the

mirror LOL!

Lin Hunnicutt lhsh@...> wrote: Personally as a man, I like

the sheer black outfits. I think they are not

only really classy, but the sexiest things I have ever seen.

Lin

422-338-250

Lhsh@...

American by birth,

Saved by the grace of God.

(unknown)

Hmm... I should have some men pick me out stuff they would like to see on a

woman seeing how I don't have a clue these days LOL!

Nichole nichole@...> wrote:

My husband has already chosen the first " sexy outfit " from s

secret. He is looking forward to being able to buy that stuff, and so

am I. I think it is a great accomplishment.

Nichole

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Tim likes the silky ones. :-)

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Lin Hunnicutt wrote:

> Personally as a man, I like the sheer black outfits. I think they are not

> only really classy, but the sexiest things I have ever seen.

> Lin

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Nothing wrong with that either.

Lin

422-338-250

Lhsh@...

American by birth,

Saved by the grace of God.

Re: (unknown)

Tim likes the silky ones. :-)

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380/254/160

Lin Hunnicutt wrote:

> Personally as a man, I like the sheer black outfits. I think they are not

> only really classy, but the sexiest things I have ever seen.

> Lin

>

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4:48 PM

[Guest guest]

Weight gain can also be a sympotm pf too high cortisl as can be

sweating, using up thyroid much too quickly.

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In October I was doing well on 27.5 HC, then I went off the HC and

cannot make progress at all. My temps before I get up are around 98.0

and they rise to above 98.4 in no time. I'm doing 15;15;10;5.

I'm trying to lower this as this may be my problem. How do I know I

need Medrol?

I can't lose a pound. 2 armour plus 100 cytomel. Bloated belly more

than any other area. Temps are pretty steady and around 98.4 average

throughout the day. I plan to lower the HC again tomorrow to

15;10;10;5. But I'm worried as maybe I'm going the wrong way and should

consider medrol instead.

I have big fatigue but sweating alot during exercise.

I'd been on T3 only for about 8 months and since I've been back to

armour, things have gotten worse. Also taking B12, mag, zinc, VitD.

>

> Weight gain can also be a sympotm pf too high cortisl as can be

> sweating, using up thyroid much too quickly.

>

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You r suymptoms ALL sound liek high cortisol to me. but it will take

some time for them to abate. The inability to lose weight is BOTH high

cortils and low thyroid. BUT the thyroid may be gettign sopped up by the

high cortilsl, so I would work on lowering the cortils as you lower T3.

Lowering the T3 will help oyu be bale to lower the cortiosl,. I am in

the process of switching back to Armour form T3 myself and it is going

well, but I had ot lower T3 MUCH fatser than I thought I would. I would

suggest lowering T3 by 25mg with this lower HC dosing and just keep an

eye on BP. Sitting ot standing.

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Thanks so much. Would you add PS in addition?

Would that help or complicate?

>

> You r suymptoms ALL sound liek high cortisol to me. but it will

take

> some time for them to abate. The inability to lose weight is BOTH

high

> cortils and low thyroid. BUT the thyroid may be gettign sopped up

by the

> high cortilsl, so I would work on lowering the cortils as you lower

T3.

> Lowering the T3 will help oyu be bale to lower the cortiosl,. I am

in

> the process of switching back to Armour form T3 myself and it is

going

> well, but I had ot lower T3 MUCH fatser than I thought I would. I

would

> suggest lowering T3 by 25mg with this lower HC dosing and just keep

an

> eye on BP. Sitting ot standing.

>

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