Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Kendra, My husband pointed out that they made the statement several times " autism is increasing at an alarming rate and we don't know why. But then they blamed it on the male brain, and then on genetics. They went right past the vaccines and on to the school issues. My husband said it was like saying, hey, there are a bunch of soldiers getting killed in Iraq and we don't know why? Bonnie,Lukes mom kiwidp12@... wrote: They did a five minute segment of the show this morning and it is a huge endorsement for ABA, though from the film footage it seems to be the Lovaas approach, including the therapists grabbing the childrens' mouths to form their lips. Physically putting them in a chair over and over and over again. I hate that form of ABA because it does to our children what we would not like done to ourselves. If you grab my lips, I'm going to hit you and I am not Autistic. I used VB principles with my daughter and am more than happy with the results. There were in today's show, several questionable statements by the reporters, including calling ABA a new, cutting edge and controversial therapy. They also used the number 1 in every 166 children which was good. And my now favorite stupid statement, " that much of the increase is due to better diagnostics " . Please! I am so sick of people with supposed intelligence repeating this unbelievable crap. My take on this is: Anyone that has seen even one child with Autism, knows that not one of these kids would ever go undiagnosed. We would have to believe that 10 or 20 years ago a parent would not have demanded to know why their child had regressed after being normal. Would not have demanded to know why they suddenly couldn't relate to the outside world. Would not have demanded to know why they persistently rocked, flapped their hands, walked on their toes, bit themselves, and banged their heads to the point of serious damage. Why they had 100s of meltdowns every day and could not stand a change in routine. You would have to believe that schools and teachers also somehow missed this and these children managed school and just slipped through the cracks. To believe this you have never seen even a mildly Autistic child. No child with Autism ever went undiagnosed or their condition would never meet the DSM-IV diagnostic criteria. The diagnositic criteria has not changed in California for over a decade yet the rates are doubling every 4 years. 13 Children in California are diagnosed every day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year and these are only the most severe. They are not counting children with Aspergers, PDD-NOS, or Hyperlexia, so imagine what the real numbers are. Anyone with half a brain knows that better diagnostics has NOTHING to do with the increase. The media and government continue these unbelievable and ridiculous denials because they don't want to face up to the fact that they are poisoning their own citizens, the youngest and most vulnerable, all in the name of the almighty dollar. One Congressman in California said, " I can pick out an Autistic Child from a mile away in an airport, these children do not now nor have they EVER gone undiagnosed " . Kendra ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 When these children start to grab their face to talk with them they will be confused as to why they are doing it...Go figure. kiwidp12@... wrote: They did a five minute segment of the show this morning and it is a huge endorsement for ABA, though from the film footage it seems to be the Lovaas approach, including the therapists grabbing the childrens' mouths to form their lips. Physically putting them in a chair over and over and over again. I hate that form of ABA because it does to our children what we would not like done to ourselves. If you grab my lips, I'm going to hit you and I am not Autistic. I used VB principles with my daughter and am more than happy with the results. There were in today's show, several questionable statements by the reporters, including calling ABA a new, cutting edge and controversial therapy. They also used the number 1 in every 166 children which was good. And my now favorite stupid statement, " that much of the increase is due to better diagnostics " . Please! I am so sick of people with supposed intelligence repeating this unbelievable crap. My take on this is: Anyone that has seen even one child with Autism, knows that not one of these kids would ever go undiagnosed. We would have to believe that 10 or 20 years ago a parent would not have demanded to know why their child had regressed after being normal. Would not have demanded to know why they suddenly couldn't relate to the outside world. Would not have demanded to know why they persistently rocked, flapped their hands, walked on their toes, bit themselves, and banged their heads to the point of serious damage. Why they had 100s of meltdowns every day and could not stand a change in routine. You would have to believe that schools and teachers also somehow missed this and these children managed school and just slipped through the cracks. To believe this you have never seen even a mildly Autistic child. No child with Autism ever went undiagnosed or their condition would never meet the DSM-IV diagnostic criteria. The diagnositic criteria has not changed in California for over a decade yet the rates are doubling every 4 years. 13 Children in California are diagnosed every day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year and these are only the most severe. They are not counting children with Aspergers, PDD-NOS, or Hyperlexia, so imagine what the real numbers are. Anyone with half a brain knows that better diagnostics has NOTHING to do with the increase. The media and government continue these unbelievable and ridiculous denials because they don't want to face up to the fact that they are poisoning their own citizens, the youngest and most vulnerable, all in the name of the almighty dollar. One Congressman in California said, " I can pick out an Autistic Child from a mile away in an airport, these children do not now nor have they EVER gone undiagnosed " . Kendra ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Re: [ ] Re: ABC tonight Primetime Autism report And who exactly were they referring to when they claimed that experts are now certain that childhood vaccinations aren't the cause???? Give me a break.. kiwidp12@... wrote: .. Please! I am so sick of people with supposed intelligence repeating this unbelievable crap. ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 We'll never see ABC, CBS, or NBC provide full disclosure about families who are primary stockholders rich in both major-media stocks and pharmaceutical company stocks. Supervisory personnel in major media are just doing their job. If a job requirement is to kowtow unto official vaccine orthodoxy, they'll be subserviently on their knees as long as the mandate exists. If told to report that black = white, most such employees will choose job over truthful reporting. Curtin wrote: > Re: [ ] Re: ABC tonight Primetime Autism report > > >And who exactly were they referring to when they claimed that experts are >now certain that childhood vaccinations aren't the cause???? > >Give me a break.. > >kiwidp12@... wrote: >. Please! >I am so sick of people with supposed intelligence repeating this >unbelievable crap. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Yeah, there is alot of those doctors out there, proctologist(sorry if spelling is wrong) first, doctors second. Bonnie <justice9999@...> wrote: They must have been referring to the doctors with their heads up their a**. > . Please! > I am so sick of people with supposed intelligence repeating this > unbelievable crap. > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 GREAT MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Donna <dma_nc1@...> wrote:Doctors these days really do have thier head up thier A$$!! If they took a few hundred hours of thier precious time for discovery, they wouldnt look like such fools! They prefer to just give our kids a pill and come back in three months! Please watch the movie Lorenzzos oil....Its about how parents of a very sick child who did all the research, and found a cure for thier childs illness..It didnt save thier child, He was too far gone, But it saved the lives of other children! Parents have more of a passion to find answers to save thier child, Unlike doctors who prefer to put a bandaid on it! > > . Please! > > I am so sick of people with supposed intelligence repeating this > > unbelievable crap. > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 It is about time that these buttheads woke up and smelled the coffee. I can't even tell my son's GI doc why his extensive, severe ulcerative colitis is improving when he has been weaned off of his meds.. Part of the problem is the 800 pound gorilla in the room that the drs can't see (vaccines.)causing problems they can't admit to (immune suppression, mercury poisoning, measles infection) The few brave souls who try to help us are ostracized by their peers and run out of practice. But there are too many of us now to ignore. we are just going to have to encourage them, and take action ourselves. They can't silence all of us. Not any more. [ ] Re: ABC tonight Primetime Autism report Doctors these days really do have thier head up thier A$$!! If they took a few hundred hours of thier precious time for discovery, they wouldnt look like such fools! They prefer to just give our kids a pill and come back in three months! Please watch the movie Lorenzzos oil....Its about how parents of a very sick child who did all the research, and found a cure for thier childs illness..It didnt save thier child, He was too far gone, But it saved the lives of other children! Parents have more of a passion to find answers to save thier child, Unlike doctors who prefer to put a bandaid on it! > > . Please! > > I am so sick of people with supposed intelligence repeating this > > unbelievable crap. > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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