? about L-carnoSine as a chelator (Andy ?)

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Can anyone comment about l-carnosine's properties as a chelator?

This isn't my purpose in giving the supplement to my 8 yo with ADHD.

It's the first supplement I tried that makes an immediate and obvious

difference in language, relatedness and overall mental acuity,

including the ability to listen to and *retain* information. We

recently started with some stories to help him remember addition

facts. The two days he took carnosine he listened eagerly and could

remember them in great detail. On the third & fourth day, without

carnosine, he couldn't remember the new stories at all. He could

remember the earlier stories.

It also makes him more hyper, but perhaps I can lower the dose. It's

almost worth the hyperactivity. At least his brain can function while

he's jumping around.

I found out that l-carnosine supposedly chelates heavy metals and

crosses the blood/ brain barrier and stopped it. The dose I would use

would be between 250-500 mg./ day. I'm wondering if it would get

mercury out or just deposit it somewhere else ala cilantro. We are

also giving 2 forms of selenium to bind to any mercury in his body.

He has no amalgams.

Bottom line is how dangerous is it?

Thanks,

Ellyn

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> Can anyone comment about l-carnosine's properties as a chelator?

It is not an effective chelator of mercury, lead, etc. and doesn't have

to be treated as such (not can it be used as such).

>

> This isn't my purpose in giving the supplement to my 8 yo with ADHD.

> It's the first supplement I tried that makes an immediate and obvious

> difference in language, relatedness and overall mental acuity,

> including the ability to listen to and *retain* information. We

> recently started with some stories to help him remember addition

> facts. The two days he took carnosine he listened eagerly and could

> remember them in great detail. On the third & fourth day, without

> carnosine, he couldn't remember the new stories at all. He could

> remember the earlier stories.

>

> It also makes him more hyper, but perhaps I can lower the dose. It's

> almost worth the hyperactivity. At least his brain can function while

> he's jumping around.

>

> I found out that l-carnosine supposedly chelates heavy metals and

> crosses the blood/ brain barrier and stopped it.

You can continue to use it, it is fine.

>The dose I would use

> would be between 250-500 mg./ day. I'm wondering if it would get

> mercury out or just deposit it somewhere else ala cilantro. We are

> also giving 2 forms of selenium to bind to any mercury in his body.

> He has no amalgams.

>

> Bottom line is how dangerous is it?

Not at all.

> Thanks,

> Ellyn

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> Can anyone comment about l-carnosine's properties as a chelator?

I have not read that it is a chelator.

I used Carnosine for a while, it helped one of my kids for behaviors

and language. It did tend to increase copper tho, so I had to give it

with zinc.

> It also makes him more hyper, but perhaps I can lower the dose.

This was my son's first sign that it was increasing copper levels.

Dana

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Hi Dana -

Thanks for the reply -

> I used Carnosine for a while, it helped one of my kids for behaviors

> and language. It did tend to increase copper tho, so I had to give it

> with zinc.

Searching carnosine/ chelator gives a lot of references (web sites &

abstracts). Chelation is almost always listed as one ot the

properties of carnosine.

>

>

> > It also makes him more hyper, but perhaps I can lower the dose.

>

>

> This was my son's first sign that it was increasing copper levels.

My son has been taking half a Source Naturals zinc for a few weeks.

He only took the carnosine for a two days and was (more) hyper

immediately. Also, one of the references about carnosine says that it

has an affinity for zinc AND copper. Did you see anything else that

made you think it was copper?

Ellyn

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> Searching carnosine/ chelator gives a lot of references (web sites &

> abstracts). Chelation is almost always listed as one ot the

> properties of carnosine.

Well, if you searched for carnosine/chelator, then I would suspect

that all of the articles you would get, would list that as a property.

> My son has been taking half a Source Naturals zinc for a few weeks.

How many mg was this?

> > He only took the carnosine for a two days and was (more) hyper

> immediately. Also, one of the references about carnosine says that it

> has an affinity for zinc AND copper. Did you see anything else that

> made you think it was copper?

He was hyper and " off " . I don't remember now whether I added zinc, or

increased zinc. But zinc removed the problem.

Carn-Aware is a combination of carnosine and zinc, so that was my

first clue as to why my son had problems with carnosine.

Dana