Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Hello, We use oral DMPS low doses every 8 hours for 3 days then oral DMPS/ALA every 3 hours for two days then oral DMPS again for two days then a week off. My son tolerates it well and it has been helping. What is the advantage of using transdermal over oral if the child is tolerating oral well? Has anyone looked at the absorption of oral versus transdermal to see which allows more to get in? I worry about redistribution using a protocol other than 8 hours with DMPS as it does not stay in the system much longer than this. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Hi, I would suggest doing a safer test to see which chelator your child does better on by trying some oral DMPS using the proper protocol during a chelation round. The doctor can also test during a chelation round as easily as using a one time dose. DMPS does help with gi pathogen issues. One time large doses of chelators like the doctor is suggesting redistribute lots of mercury and can make things much worse. TK > We have been giving our son 100 mg. of oral DMSA and 100 mg. of ALA every 3 hours every weekend. > > Our doctor wants us to stop for awhile then do 2 tests > > One day give 400mg. of oral DMPS, wait 2 hours then collect the next 6 hours urine and test. > > Then the next week give 400 mg. oral DMSA and do the same urine collection. > > Questions: > Should I give the ALA with both? 400mg? > Should we test stool as well as urine? I've heard that a good amount of metals can come out in the stool especially when ALA is added. > > The doc is thinking that if DMPS does as well or better than DMSA then we should change to DMPS and that would help the gut bug problem. > > All comments are welcome and appreciated. > thanks winnchimes > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 How big is your child - 100 mg sounds like a lot. [ ] oral DMPS questions > > We have been giving our son 100 mg. of oral DMSA and 100 mg. of ALA every 3 hours every weekend. > > Our doctor wants us to stop for awhile then do 2 tests > > One day give 400mg. of oral DMPS, wait 2 hours then collect the next 6 hours urine and test. > > Then the next week give 400 mg. oral DMSA and do the same urine collection. > > Questions: > Should I give the ALA with both? 400mg? > Should we test stool as well as urine? I've heard that a good amount of metals can come out in the stool especially when ALA is added. > > The doc is thinking that if DMPS does as well or better than DMSA then we should change to DMPS and that would help the gut bug problem. > > All comments are welcome and appreciated. > thanks winnchimes > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 How big/old is your son? This seems like a pretty high dose! Barb [ ] oral DMPS questions > > We have been giving our son 100 mg. of oral DMSA and 100 mg. of ALA every > 3 hours every weekend. > > Our doctor wants us to stop for awhile then do 2 tests > > One day give 400mg. of oral DMPS, wait 2 hours then collect the next 6 > hours urine and test. > > Then the next week give 400 mg. oral DMSA and do the same urine > collection. > > Questions: > Should I give the ALA with both? 400mg? > Should we test stool as well as urine? I've heard that a good amount of > metals can come out in the stool especially when ALA is added. > > The doc is thinking that if DMPS does as well or better than DMSA then we > should change to DMPS and that would help the gut bug problem. > > All comments are welcome and appreciated. > thanks winnchimes > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 > We have been giving our son 100 mg. of oral DMSA and 100 mg. of ALA every 3 hours every weekend. I used 100 mg ALA for my son, but this was only after starting at 25 mg and slowly working up. He was about age 7 when he was on 100 mg ALA, and I gave it 3x per day, not every 3 hours. That sure sounds like a lot of ALA, unless perhaps your son is an adult. > Should we test stool as well as urine? I've heard that a good amount of metals can come out in the stool especially when ALA is added. Yes, ALA excretes metals thru the bm. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 If you're doing the DMPS as a provocative test to determine its effectiveness at removing metals in your child, I wouldn't use the ALA that round because it might confuse which is actually pulling the metals. You will probably see a greater output with the DMPS, especially if your child has a high level of mercury or arsenic, without the ALA. If I recall correctly, DMPS mostly outputs through the kidneys but the body can choose to release metals any direction during the process. We saw output flip throughout the process. Testing both would give you a truer picture of what's being released. The 400mg dose sounds extremely high unless your child is very large. As an adult, I only used 250mg when I was using DMPS in IV form. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 If you're doing the DMPS as a provocative test to determine its effectiveness at removing metals in your child, I wouldn't use the ALA that round because it might confuse which is actually pulling the metals. You will probably see a greater output with the DMPS, especially if your child has a high level of mercury or arsenic, without the ALA. If I recall correctly, DMPS mostly outputs through the kidneys but the body can choose to release metals any direction during the process. We saw output flip throughout the process. Testing both would give you a truer picture of what's being released. The 400mg dose sounds extremely high unless your child is very large. As an adult, I only used 250mg when I was using DMPS in IV form. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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