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forgot to mention. COQ10 is very concentrated in cardiac muscle and many

drugs can deplete COQ10 including statins as far as i know, and COQ10 is

supposed to have natural anti arrythimic properties

FYI

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My son has had it from a youngster and now at age 25 it is better...

90's-110's most of the time.

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On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Maureen Havenner <havenner@...>wrote:

> When I first got really sick from Lyme, my heart rate went from a normal

> 64 to 72 or even 80 for periods of time, but not continuously. Once

> treatment started, this disappeared. I also have bartonella.

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> Maureen

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Hi, Janet.

I, too, have a very rapid HR - often up in the 130s, if I do not take

Atenolol (a beta-blocker) to slow it down. It started with the Lyme

almost 4 years ago. I have been on oral ABX for the Lyme pretty much

non-stop most of that time, with lots of change-ups in the

combinations. Have been thru all the cardiology testing several

times. Have a couple of leaky valves, but not bad enough to do

something about. Even on the Atenolol I do have occasional bouts of

palpitations. They are coming more often this past month, I think

because I stopped all ABX to see where I stand after a month of IV

Rocephin and treating the LD as well as Bartonella together for 10

months. And I am hypothyroid as well. Maybe Atenolol will work for

you, too? A friend of mine also takes it for the same reason....

Good luck, Terri

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My heart rate increases with exposure to any virus and if I get on it

right away with Virustop 2 x per day on an empty stomach I can

usually get through it now. I did 8 months of high dose Virustop last

year to try to bring down co-infections. Now, knock on wood, I can

get by with dose on exposure if I catch it quickly.

>

> Hi,

>

> Has anyone experienced a quickened heart rate from Lyme? I have

mitral valve

> prolapse, which is not causing my elevated heart rate. My

cardiologist is

> hooking me up to a monitor next week that I'll wear home for 24

hours. My

> resting heart rate is about 96 bpm and it's gotten up to 111.

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>

>

> My LLMD said that it could be that the Lyme or Bartonella is in the

> connective tissue around my heart. But she told me to definitely

get all

> tests necessary to rule anything else out. So far my thyroid

function came

> back toward hypo thyroid (not hyper, which usually causes anxiety

and fast

> heart rate). I'm taking thyroid medicine for subclinical

hypothyroid.

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>

>

> I'm curious to know if anyone else has experienced anything like

this due to

> Lyme or Bartonella.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janet

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I have Hashimoto's disease and I have had many medical issues that caused me to

wonder about having Lyme disease. But that is another story.

 

What I'd like to say is that I had unexpectedly developed tacchardia and it was

scary. It came out of no where three years ago when I was 44. This is a common

disorder for many people caused by various disorders. So keep that in mind. In

my case, after an intense work up I was told it was benign. I was even given

beta blockers, but my cardiologist said it was not necessary but offered them to

give me comfort when I felt a bit fast on certain days. Not a pleasant benign

condition - I can assure you of that. 

 

It has resolved and at times it acts up depending on some sort of stressor. Like

over eating, lack of sleep etc. Sometime I can drink a cup of water to stop an

attack since it massages the vagas nerve.

 

My main point is that it can be related to the thyroid and being hypo can

sometimes produce hyper symptoms. I know this sounds strange - but it's true.

Especially in cases where the hypo state deteriorates and produces a surge of

thyroid hormone which actually creates a hyper state. I was on synthroid but

switch over to Armour for my thyroid. You should try to determine if it's

realted to your medication - that is, getting too much. But blood work as good

as it is may not represent what your body is telling you. So first try to get a

feeling on if it is realted to you thyroid dosage.

 

Of course you can have both a thyroid and Lyme problem at the same time (as I

may have) so it just makes it a bit harder. Lyme can cause heart issues but a

good cardiologist should pin point exactly what type of heart condition you have

and possible causes. From there you can pursue an approach. No matter what, I

would get the thyroid under control.

 

After a good work up, if they indicate it is benign like mine, relax and see if

it resolves like mine did over time. At this point I have no real loss of

quality of life and it has gotten better over time not worse. 

 

 

 

From: erinsullivan65 <erinsullivan65@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Fast heart rate

Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 7:37 PM

My heart rate increases with exposure to any virus and if I get on it

right away with Virustop 2 x per day on an empty stomach I can

usually get through it now. I did 8 months of high dose Virustop last

year to try to bring down co-infections. Now, knock on wood, I can

get by with dose on exposure if I catch it quickly.

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Janet:

 

You are not alone there.  Fast heart rate (tachycardia), from what I know, is

common with Lyme.

 

One week ago, I had a resting heart rate of 96 bpm at my doc's.  Before my

relapse, my heart rate was 72 bpm.

 

I wish you the best of luck with that as well as your hypothyroidism.

 

-Deron

From: Janet Ring <janet.ring@...>

Subject: [ ] Fast heart rate

Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:38 PM

Hi,

Has anyone experienced a quickened heart rate from Lyme? I have mitral valve

prolapse, which is not causing my elevated heart rate. My cardiologist is

hooking me up to a monitor next week that I'll wear home for 24 hours. My

resting heart rate is about 96 bpm and it's gotten up to 111.

My LLMD said that it could be that the Lyme or Bartonella is in the

connective tissue around my heart. But she told me to definitely get all

tests necessary to rule anything else out. So far my thyroid function came

back toward hypo thyroid (not hyper, which usually causes anxiety and fast

heart rate). I'm taking thyroid medicine for subclinical hypothyroid.

I'm curious to know if anyone else has experienced anything like this due to

Lyme or Bartonella.

Thanks,

Janet

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Thanks everyone for your input about a high heart rate. To answer one

question, I was diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse in the mid '80s. I had

what felt like heart " palpitations, " but they were actually extra beats, not

missed beats, caused by the MVP. All of this was wrapped up with other

symptoms and a " mysterious illness " that my LLMD thinks was my first herx

(it was after taking Flagyl for Giardia). Anyway, I have the MVP monitored

at regular intervals.

About hypothyroid-I take Armour thyroid, but since the rapid heart rate and

anxiety attacks started several weeks ago, I stopped taking it. I thought

for sure I was hyperthyroid, but I'm not, so I'm going back on the Armour

thyroid. I'm sure this will all resolve at some point. I'm going to ask my

family doctor about my adrenal glad function and see if she'll order a test

for that.

Having Lyme is not for sissies, that's for sure. Luckily, there are

treatments and we just keep forging ahead. Kudos to all of us.

Janet

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> Tachycardia is more commonly a symptom of adrenal distress, though it also

occurs in thyroid disorders. Lyme does pretty much the same thing to the adrenal

glands that it does to the thyroid.

In my husband's case, the intermittant tachycardia turned out to only happen

when he was in atrial fibulation. He'd wake up with a racing fast heart rate and

pace the house till it slowed down; let this happen off and on for a couple of

years before he woke me and said it wasn't stopping this time.Even after

stopping his heart and restarting it, they couldn't get the a-fib to stop. Now

he takes toprol and things are good (unless he forgets to take it).

He was tested for Lyme a couple of years ago, but the doc doesn't know anything

about it and used the ELISA, though hubby has had symptoms almost as long as I

have. I encourage him to ask for different tests, but ultimately have to wait

for him to deal with it.

Too many of us have heart symptoms that get written off.

All best,

in Oregon

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