Re: The great CDC responds/ New to group

August 10, 2004

I was glad to be able to read on the links below. Thank You. I am new to the

group and this will be the forst time I'm writing. I have a 5 year old Daughter

who will soon be diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome. I fear the connection

between her % YES5 Hepatitis B shots in 1999 and 2000 only (3 or 4 is std.) My

first inclination at age 3 1/2/ -4 was that my daughter had split personallity

disorder. I am now finding multiple connections that point to Autism (although

mild). Spinning, chronic constepation, repetition, speech refression, potty

training regression, agression...I can go on. I have been told it is very hard

to fight this battle legally and takes alot of money- I am lost right now. Can

anyone tell me if they better information? I also see alot of you with all of

these metal tests, diets, vitamins, I haven't even gotten into any of that yet

and need more laymens guidance.

Ellens Mom

[ ] The great CDC responds....

<tt>

This is the response I received from the CDC. (NIIHNET)

Basically I asked for Steve Cochi's resignation for the offensive

and reprehensible comments and position he publicizes for his

organisation.

The blatant disregard for the victims of mercury poisoning is just

dripping in this short response from them.-drakesdad9

===============================================================

Thank you for writing. & nbsp; Your comments have been forwarded to the

National

Immunization Program for consideration. & nbsp;

The CDC does recommend the use of influenza vaccine to prevent

influenza

among individuals at high risk for complications, regardless of

whether the

vaccine contains thimerosal or not. & nbsp; Influenza kills 36,000 people a

year,

and thimerosal has not been demonstrated to cause harm to any

individuals

receiving vaccines. & nbsp;

You can review the CDC's recommendations on influenza prevention and

thimerosal at the two links below:

<a

href= " http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/thimerosal/ " >http://www.cdc.gov/ni\

p/vacsafe/concerns/thimerosal/</a>

--NIIH Net

Your e-mail is being responded to by the CDC National Immunization

Information Hotline's e-mail service. Feel free to reply with more

questions

or call our hotline at (800) 232-2522 for English or (800) 232-0233

for our

Spanish line, both open Mon.-Fri. 8:00am-11:00pm, & nbsp; ET. & nbsp; Our TTY line

is

available 10:00am to 10:00pm, ET at (800) 243-7889.

==================================================================

It's funny, and expected I guess, & nbsp;

In their response they say 36,000 a year die from Influenza.

Earlier in the article, when quoted Steve Cochi said 140 died last

year of Influenza.

So which is it 140 or 36,000? & nbsp;

And where do they get their statistics?

Do they pick them out of a hat, whenever its appropriate?

Where are all these people dying of the Flu?

I never hear about it except for the rare case.

Maybe.. they were probably about to die of old age ready to go

anyway and the flu just helped finish them off, ya that counts, & nbsp; -or-

they were too young and their immune system was compromised, hmm

wonder how that happened... & nbsp; Or maybe they had AIDS too, couldnt

fight it so they died, ya that counts.. & nbsp; Or even a car accident

victim that happened to have the influenza at the time of the

accident, sure throw that in there too!

Statistic makers are sneaky like that, especially when they are

trying to make a point.

They have this big database to play with, and no one else is allowed

to see.

Makes you feel all warm and safe doesn't it?

</tt>

<tt>

=======================================================

August 10, 2004

I also see alot of you with all of these metal tests, diets,

vitamins, I haven't even gotten into any of that yet and need more

laymens guidance.

>

> Ellens Mom

You can start with the Files section of this group. DeFelice's

book " Enzymes for Autism and Other Neurological Disorders " is also

extremely helpful. Eventually all of it will start to make sense....

Nell

August 10, 2004

Hi Ellen,

Im sure you will find alot of information here, and most of it is

going to be confusing to a newcomer. I reccommend reading and

getting familiar with the FAQ (frequently asked questions)as well as

some of the Links.

Lawyers -

If you believe your daughter has been harmed because of too much

Thimerosal, contact a lawyer, and file before 3 years after the

first symptoms show. If you don't within 3 years, there is a

statute of limitations. I suggest a lawyer specializing in Vaccine

litigation, and the Autism Omnibus proceeding. Conway, Chin, Caplan

comes to mind. I'm not sure if Aspergers falls under the Autism

Omnibus, so your going to have to ask the lawyer.

Chelation -

If you do decide to start chelation with your daughter, read up on

everything first. I started my son on ALA cycles, and some cilantro

with his ramen noodles. We are guaging his progress as we go.

He is making great progress, a very social and cool little 6 year

year old, but when he wants to ignore you he will. He knows the

basic rules of the UNO card game. He mimics kids movies all day, he

will use a scene in the movie to relay an emotion he is having or to

get his point across. When he thinks he is right, and he thinks his

mom is wrong, he will quote the Iron Giant when Hogarth is trying to

tell his Mom about the giant robot, " it was a hundred feet high! " he

will scream through the house. Because you see in the movie, there

really was a robot, and his Mom was wrong.

School-

Make sure to check on Early intervention programs to get your

daughter enrolled early. My son was in a pre-school class for

Autistic kids, and its best to get them going early.

Early School and our persistence have tought him that whem he wants

something he will make a sentence.

" daddy, I, want, rootbeer " with the slight little pause between

words.

He used to bang his head on the ground or wall, he doesn't anymore.

He still has temper tantrums, but most times its because his

feelings are hurt. He is very sensitive to moods, facial

expressions, has great empathy.

He is a little jokster too, making funnys without knowing it and

cracking the whole house up.

One day to he said to my wife " Momma, toast. "

She replied sweetly " Toast? are you sure? "

He replied right back smiling " Momma, are you toast? "

We all thought it was so funny, and he started laughing too.

Good luck

and keep the faith.

> I was glad to be able to read on the links below. Thank You. I am

new to the group and this will be the forst time I'm writing. I

have a 5 year old Daughter who will soon be diagnosed with Aspergers

Syndrome. I fear the connection between her % YES5 Hepatitis B

shots in 1999 and 2000 only (3 or 4 is std.) My first inclination

at age 3 1/2/ -4 was that my daughter had split personallity

disorder. I am now finding multiple connections that point to

Autism (although mild). Spinning, chronic constepation, repetition,

speech refression, potty training regression, agression...I can go

on. I have been told it is very hard to fight this battle legally

and takes alot of money- I am lost right now. Can anyone tell me if

they better information? I also see alot of you with all of these

metal tests, diets, vitamins, I haven't even gotten into any of that

yet and need more laymens guidance.

>

> Ellens Mom

>

August 10, 2004

Hi Ellen,

You might get a lot of your questions answered by getting into the files of

this group and doing some reading there. Then come to the group with your

questions.

Barb

[ ] The great CDC responds....

>

> <html><body>

>

> <tt>

> This is the response I received from the CDC. (NIIHNET)

> Basically I asked for Steve Cochi's resignation for the offensive

> and reprehensible comments and position he publicizes for his

> organisation.

>

> The blatant disregard for the victims of mercury poisoning is just

> dripping in this short response from them.-drakesdad9

> ===============================================================

> Thank you for writing. & nbsp; Your comments have been forwarded to the

> National

> Immunization Program for consideration. & nbsp;

>

> The CDC does recommend the use of influenza vaccine to prevent

> influenza

> among individuals at high risk for complications, regardless of

> whether the

> vaccine contains thimerosal or not. & nbsp; Influenza kills 36,000 people a

> year,

> and thimerosal has not been demonstrated to cause harm to any

> individuals

> receiving vaccines. & nbsp;

>

> You can review the CDC's recommendations on influenza prevention and

> thimerosal at the two links below:

>

> <a href= " http://www.cdc.gov/flu/ " >http://www.cdc.gov/flu/</a>

> <a

href= " http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/thimerosal/ " >http://www.cdc.go

v/nip/vacsafe/concerns/thimerosal/</a>

>

> --NIIH Net

>

> Your e-mail is being responded to by the CDC National Immunization

> Information Hotline's e-mail service. Feel free to reply with more

> questions

> or call our hotline at (800) 232-2522 for English or (800) 232-0233

> for our

> Spanish line, both open Mon.-Fri. 8:00am-11:00pm, & nbsp; ET. & nbsp; Our TTY

line

> is

> available 10:00am to 10:00pm, ET at (800) 243-7889.

> ==================================================================

>

> It's funny, and expected I guess, & nbsp;

> In their response they say 36,000 a year die from Influenza.

>

> Earlier in the article, when quoted Steve Cochi said 140 died last

> year of Influenza.

>

> So which is it 140 or 36,000? & nbsp;

> And where do they get their statistics?

> Do they pick them out of a hat, whenever its appropriate?

>

> Where are all these people dying of the Flu?

> I never hear about it except for the rare case.

>

> Maybe.. they were probably about to die of old age ready to go

> anyway and the flu just helped finish them off, ya that

counts, & nbsp; -or-

> they were too young and their immune system was compromised, hmm

> wonder how that happened... & nbsp; Or maybe they had AIDS too, couldnt

> fight it so they died, ya that counts.. & nbsp; Or even a car accident

> victim that happened to have the influenza at the time of the

> accident, sure throw that in there too!

> Statistic makers are sneaky like that, especially when they are

> trying to make a point.

> They have this big database to play with, and no one else is allowed

> to see.

> Makes you feel all warm and safe doesn't it?

>

> </tt>

>

>

> <tt>

> =======================================================

>

August 11, 2004

>>I fear the connection between her % YES5 Hepatitis B shots in 1999

and 2000 only (3 or 4 is std.)

My #2 son was autistic from ONE HepB vax.

>>Spinning,

This was yeast for my son

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

>>chronic constepation,

Constipation ideas

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

>>it is very hard to fight this battle legally and takes alot of

money- I am lost right now.

Scroll down to the bottom of this site section, I have vaccine-injury

attorneys linked

http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#vaccines

>>I also see alot of you with all of these metal tests, diets,

vitamins, I haven't even gotten into any of that yet and need more

laymens guidance.

For chelation info, here is my intro page

http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm

I have many many biomedical interventions listed on this page

http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm

Good luck.

Dana

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