Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 On Folic acid: very little evidence of excess of folic acid being associated with autism. The timing of folic acid supplementation in food such as cereal, which occurred around 1998, does not coincide with the dramatic upward trend in the incidence of autism, that began in the early 1990's. This theory has been suggested by Beaudet of Baylor, but where's the support? Compared with the scientific support for the mercury hypothesis, the folic acid hypothesis is extremely weak. Another related theory advanced by Beaudet suggests that presence of MTHFR polymorphism protects against autism. Research soon to be published shows the opposite. On testosterone: Dr. Boyd Haley has shown in vitro that mercury and other heavy metals are more toxic to neurons in the presence of testosterone than without testosterone. He suggests that there exists synergistic toxicity between thimerosal, mercury, lead other heavy metals and testosterone. Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen has shown that mothers of autistic children have higher levels of testosterone in their amniotic fluid than neurotypical controls. He has just presented a study showing that children of mothers with comparatively higher levels of testosterone in their amniotic fluid have a higher incidence of language delay, developmental delay, obsessive compulsive disorder, etc. Of course Baron-Cohen uses this to support his psychological theory of " extreme maleness " in autism. But Baron-Cohen's data tends to show the manifestation of what Dr. Haley has shown in the laboratory. The strong suggestion of Baron-Cohen's data is that mercury is more toxic and more likely to cause developmental problems in children with comparatively high levels of testosterone. Bob Krakow Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:18:58 +0200 From: " Lottner " <Lottner@...> Subject: Re: Re: Could Folic Acid Inadvertently Cause Autism? There has been a thread lately about research ongoing regarding why males are more likely to be affected (ASD) than females. Theoretically, the same exposure could result in harm to one twin and not the other since they are different genetically. One could have had more likelihood of developing ASD. (I think the research theory was that testosterone makes one more prone to the damage caused by environmental triggers. Anyone remember any more on this?) [ ] Re: Could Folic Acid Inadvertently Cause Autism? > My gut reaction is the same as Mark's. I took 800mcg of folic acid > (recommended)before we conceived. Then I took the prenatal vitamins > provided once I was pregnant with my twins. My son & daughter > (fraternal twins) were both fine until around 15mo. when my son > started banging his head, got an ear infection, huge respitory cold, > started being agressive and hitting us, combative, crying....all > within 10 days his Hepatitus B shot! My daughter is completely > unaffectived/normal...zero symptoms. They are 3 now. They would > have both been affected most likely if it was a placental issue in > womb...i.e. folate, me eating too much tuna/fish, etc. > > JT J. Krakow Attorney At Law 225 Broadway, Suite 2700 New York, New York 10007 (212) 227-0600 (646) 349-1771 (fax) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 I have a question for you. If I had an amnio, would the level of testosterone be one of the things that would be in the report sent back to my ObGyn? If so, I could get a copy of my amnio results for my son, born in 2000 and check to see if the testosterone level was high. Thanks, KIM [ ] Re: Could Folic Acid Inadvertently Cause Autism? > My gut reaction is the same as Mark's. I took 800mcg of folic acid > (recommended)before we conceived. Then I took the prenatal vitamins > provided once I was pregnant with my twins. My son & daughter > (fraternal twins) were both fine until around 15mo. when my son > started banging his head, got an ear infection, huge respitory cold, > started being agressive and hitting us, combative, crying....all > within 10 days his Hepatitus B shot! My daughter is completely > unaffectived/normal...zero symptoms. They are 3 now. They would > have both been affected most likely if it was a placental issue in > womb...i.e. folate, me eating too much tuna/fish, etc. > > JT J. Krakow Attorney At Law 225 Broadway, Suite 2700 New York, New York 10007 (212) 227-0600 (646) 349-1771 (fax) ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Bob Could you share a little detail on the MTHFR research? Which group is doing the work? Thanks! Re: Re: Could Folic Acid Inadvertently Cause Autism? There has been a thread lately about research ongoing regarding why males are more likely to be affected (ASD) than females. Theoretically, the same exposure could result in harm to one twin and not the other since they are different genetically. One could have had more likelihood of developing ASD. (I think the research theory was that testosterone makes one more prone to the damage caused by environmental triggers. Anyone remember any more on this?) [ ] Re: Could Folic Acid Inadvertently Cause Autism? > My gut reaction is the same as Mark's. I took 800mcg of folic acid > (recommended)before we conceived. Then I took the prenatal vitamins > provided once I was pregnant with my twins. My son & daughter > (fraternal twins) were both fine until around 15mo. when my son > started banging his head, got an ear infection, huge respitory cold, > started being agressive and hitting us, combative, crying....all > within 10 days his Hepatitus B shot! My daughter is completely > unaffectived/normal...zero symptoms. They are 3 now. They would > have both been affected most likely if it was a placental issue in > womb...i.e. folate, me eating too much tuna/fish, etc. > > JT J. Krakow Attorney At Law 225 Broadway, Suite 2700 New York, New York 10007 (212) 227-0600 (646) 349-1771 (fax) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 > I have a question for you. If I had an amnio, would the level of testosterone be one of the things that would be in the report sent back to my ObGyn? If so, I could get a copy of my amnio results for my son, born in 2000 and check to see if the testosterone level was high. Thanks, KIM Amnios routinely check chromosomes and AFP levels. Any other tests would be 1) part of a research protocol or 2) because of a family history of a disease or 3) a specific concern due to an abnormal ultrasound or other abnormal test. SORRY, but a testosterone level would not be reported on your amnio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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