Re: gets booted from piano lessons..sigh..

[Guest guest]

That is really crappy... I can't believe that she couldn't at least talk to

you herself. I hate how people say yes no problem when they don't even know

what a problem looks like.

Hope you are ok and still go to church. Remember you have nothing to be

embarassed about.

Hugs

[Guest guest]

That is really crappy... I can't believe that she couldn't at least talk to

you herself. I hate how people say yes no problem when they don't even know

what a problem looks like.

Hope you are ok and still go to church. Remember you have nothing to be

embarassed about.

Hugs

[Guest guest]

That is really crappy... I can't believe that she couldn't at least talk to

you herself. I hate how people say yes no problem when they don't even know

what a problem looks like.

Hope you are ok and still go to church. Remember you have nothing to be

embarassed about.

Hugs

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 9:42:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

myfishruleWJG@... writes:

> Hope you are ok and still go to church. Remember you have nothing to be

> embarassed about.

>

> Hugs

>

Thanks, I am sure I will..but it may take me a few weeks.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 9:42:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

myfishruleWJG@... writes:

> Hope you are ok and still go to church. Remember you have nothing to be

> embarassed about.

>

> Hugs

>

Thanks, I am sure I will..but it may take me a few weeks.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 9:55:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

penny@... writes:

> You specifically told the piano teacher about !!! SHE specifically told

> you " No Problem " . Hold your head high, be PROUD of , and find another

> instructor who gets it.

>

>

Thanks Penny, I appreciate that. I really do. I am just not feeling so

strong right now.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 9:55:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

penny@... writes:

> You specifically told the piano teacher about !!! SHE specifically told

> you " No Problem " . Hold your head high, be PROUD of , and find another

> instructor who gets it.

>

>

Thanks Penny, I appreciate that. I really do. I am just not feeling so

strong right now.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 10:12:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

smgaska@... writes:

> They need to understand that there

> is more to and your life than meets the eye. I think I would be

> angry

> rather than embarrassed!

>

> Very sorry to hear about the nurse. I agree, how sad for her family :-(

>

> Sue

>

Thanks Sue, I guess I am both a little angry and embarassed.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 10:12:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

smgaska@... writes:

> They need to understand that there

> is more to and your life than meets the eye. I think I would be

> angry

> rather than embarrassed!

>

> Very sorry to hear about the nurse. I agree, how sad for her family :-(

>

> Sue

>

Thanks Sue, I guess I am both a little angry and embarassed.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 10:12:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

smgaska@... writes:

> They need to understand that there

> is more to and your life than meets the eye. I think I would be

> angry

> rather than embarrassed!

>

> Very sorry to hear about the nurse. I agree, how sad for her family :-(

>

> Sue

>

Thanks Sue, I guess I am both a little angry and embarassed.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

Here is my perspective, Cindy....

First I'm sorry and I do understand.

The very same thing happened to Jacqui and I when I started her on Music

lessons (years ago).

After one very trying lesson, I was told " This is going to be the last

lesson due to her behavior. "

I, too, was humiliated. (This was before we knew the dx, but that is

irrelevant).

Then I thought, you know what? It's the INSTRUCTOR'S problem, not the child.

Who is she to tell ME that my child is not entitled to her services due to

behaviors that SHE can't handle. This woman advertised herself and a " music

therapist " .

You specifically told the piano teacher about !!! SHE specifically told

you " No Problem " . Hold your head high, be PROUD of , and find another

instructor who gets it.

Penny

gets booted from piano lessons..sigh..

Today was 's 4th piano lesson. It had been going really well, and he

has been practicing at home without even being told. The teacher is the

piano player at our church. I told her right upfront about his autism and

that he is a bit immature for his age. She says " No Problem. " I tell her

he gets upset/sidetracked easily. She says " No Problem. "

[Guest guest]

Face it Cindy, this woman has no clue about kids like ours. If her kid was

home sick, she should have cancelled her lessons, and there wouldn't have

been any problem. Maybe you could find someone else that would do it at

your home (or where ever the piano is that he practices on). I wouldn't be

embarassed about going to church either. They need to understand that there

is more to and your life than meets the eye. I think I would be angry

rather than embarrassed!

Very sorry to hear about the nurse. I agree, how sad for her family :-(

Sue

[Guest guest]

Face it Cindy, this woman has no clue about kids like ours. If her kid was

home sick, she should have cancelled her lessons, and there wouldn't have

been any problem. Maybe you could find someone else that would do it at

your home (or where ever the piano is that he practices on). I wouldn't be

embarassed about going to church either. They need to understand that there

is more to and your life than meets the eye. I think I would be angry

rather than embarrassed!

Very sorry to hear about the nurse. I agree, how sad for her family :-(

Sue

[Guest guest]

I'd be really upset by this! It's completely irresponsible of that

teacher to not give you some type of explaination about what happened

especially after she insisted there was no problem. Then to

completely ignore you while you were there. How rude! This is NOT

your fault, and SHE'S the one who should feel embarassed for her lack

of professionalism, you have nothing to be humiliated about.

AUGH!

> Today was 's 4th piano lesson. It had been going really well,

and he

> has been practicing at home without even being told. The teacher

is the

> piano player at our church. I told her right upfront about his

autism and

> that he is a bit immature for his age. She says " No Problem. " I

tell her

> he gets upset/sidetracked easily. She says " No Problem. "

>

> had a good day at school today, but then got in a little tiff

with my

> Dad before he was going to his lesson at the teacher's house. It

is about a

> 20 minute ride and he was totally settled down and excited to be

there when

> we got there.

>

> One problem, is totally obsessed with the computer her 9 yo

son has

> that is located right upstairs and to the left in a loft from where

> gets his lesson. Her son was home from school sick today and told

him not to

> get near him.

>

> said OK, everything was fine and I left ( would be

distracted I I

> sat there waiting.) I come back in 25 minutes and the womans

mother was

> sitting near the front door with her on the cair and on the

couch.

>

> Not a good sign at all. I had never seen her mother before, but

she lives

> there and was watching . She is probably 80-something, and

the first

> thing she says is xxx(the teacher) said she cannot handle your son

and there

> will be no more lessons for him. The teacher was maybe 20 feet

away but I

> could not bother her then b/c she was with the next student

already. I told

> her mother to tell her to call me but of course she didnt.

>

> Now I am just humiliated, I don't even want to go to church. OTOH,

I still

> dont really know what happened. All told me for sure was

that he

> wanted to do computer and he did admit to having a fit.

>

> Why can't just for once I find an extra activity that he can

handle

> behaving himself and enjoy??

>

> I give up..

>

> Cindy

>

> Mom to , 8 HFA

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/4/2003 9:37:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bunnytiner@... writes:

> That teacher's " No problem, " meant no problem as long as no problem ever

> rears its ugly head.

>

> Salli

>

exactly.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/4/2003 9:37:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bunnytiner@... writes:

> That teacher's " No problem, " meant no problem as long as no problem ever

> rears its ugly head.

>

> Salli

>

exactly.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/4/2003 7:56:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,

elizabeth.loht@... writes:

> Cindy,

>

> I'm so sorry this happened. It was certainly inappropriate for the piano

> teacher to convey this message through a third party. Perhaps you could

> find a teacher who would come to your house ...

>

>

Thats what I have been thinking too.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/4/2003 7:56:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,

elizabeth.loht@... writes:

> Cindy,

>

> I'm so sorry this happened. It was certainly inappropriate for the piano

> teacher to convey this message through a third party. Perhaps you could

> find a teacher who would come to your house ...

>

>

Thats what I have been thinking too.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

what a shitty situation cindy. it sounds like this woman wasn't the right

teacher for jason anyways. good for her for taking on the challenge but shame

on her for not talking to you face to face about the problems encountered and

possible goals and strategies for avoiding future problems. i think she owes

you at least an explanation if not another chance. too bad.

M.G.mum to

Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

married to and living in Northern Ontario

gets booted from piano lessons..sigh..

Today was 's 4th piano lesson. It had been going really well, and he

has been practicing at home without even being told. The teacher is the

piano player at our church. I told her right upfront about his autism and

that he is a bit immature for his age. She says " No Problem. " I tell her

he gets upset/sidetracked easily. She says " No Problem. "

had a good day at school today, but then got in a little tiff with my

Dad before he was going to his lesson at the teacher's house. It is about a

20 minute ride and he was totally settled down and excited to be there when

we got there.

One problem, is totally obsessed with the computer her 9 yo son has

that is located right upstairs and to the left in a loft from where

gets his lesson. Her son was home from school sick today and told him not to

get near him.

said OK, everything was fine and I left ( would be distracted I I

sat there waiting.) I come back in 25 minutes and the womans mother was

sitting near the front door with her on the cair and on the couch.

Not a good sign at all. I had never seen her mother before, but she lives

there and was watching . She is probably 80-something, and the first

thing she says is xxx(the teacher) said she cannot handle your son and there

will be no more lessons for him. The teacher was maybe 20 feet away but I

could not bother her then b/c she was with the next student already. I told

her mother to tell her to call me but of course she didnt.

Now I am just humiliated, I don't even want to go to church. OTOH, I still

dont really know what happened. All told me for sure was that he

wanted to do computer and he did admit to having a fit.

Why can't just for once I find an extra activity that he can handle

behaving himself and enjoy??

I give up..

Cindy

Mom to , 8 HFA

[Guest guest]

I am sorry, Cindy. The woman probably had no clue what she was doing when

she offered to teach . And when he got upset about the computer, they

probably did all the wrong things. I know that with Enrique and Putter the

obviously correct thing to do is usually the wrong thing to do.

Now you received no special training to be a mother for either. You

have just learned along the way what worked and tried to be creative when

things didn't work. So I would think this teacher could have done the same.

But she didn't want to bother. I am sorry. There may be another piano

teacher out there. Have you tried a music therapy department at a nearby

college or university? They might know of someone who would have a better

idea of what they were agreeing to when they decided to teach an ASD kid.

That teacher's " No problem, " meant no problem as long as no problem ever

rears its ugly head.

Salli

[Guest guest]

I am sorry, Cindy. The woman probably had no clue what she was doing when

she offered to teach . And when he got upset about the computer, they

probably did all the wrong things. I know that with Enrique and Putter the

obviously correct thing to do is usually the wrong thing to do.

Now you received no special training to be a mother for either. You

have just learned along the way what worked and tried to be creative when

things didn't work. So I would think this teacher could have done the same.

But she didn't want to bother. I am sorry. There may be another piano

teacher out there. Have you tried a music therapy department at a nearby

college or university? They might know of someone who would have a better

idea of what they were agreeing to when they decided to teach an ASD kid.

That teacher's " No problem, " meant no problem as long as no problem ever

rears its ugly head.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> Who is she to tell ME that my child is not entitled to her services due to

> behaviors that SHE can't handle. This woman advertised herself and a

" music

> therapist " .

>

Well, so much for my suggestion for Cindy! But surely there must be REAL

music therapists out there?

Salli

[Guest guest]

> Who is she to tell ME that my child is not entitled to her services due to

> behaviors that SHE can't handle. This woman advertised herself and a

" music

> therapist " .

>

Well, so much for my suggestion for Cindy! But surely there must be REAL

music therapists out there?

Salli

[Guest guest]

Don't forget that April is Autism Awareness month. It would be totally

appropriate to ask your Pastor to put something about Autism in ALL his

sermons this month. You could point out to him, without naming names, that

some church members are in need of a little extra Awareness, understanding

and compassion. Make it easy for him by providing the autism info.

Please don't avoid church because of this woman. She is at fault here

not you.

- G

Here are some Autism facts to start with. I think they came from NAAR via

the Schafer Autism Report;

* Did you know that approximately one in five Americans has a relative

with an autism spectrum disorder or close friend with autism in their

family?

* Did you know that an estimated 30% of the American population

cannot identify a single warning sign or symptom of autism?

* Did you know that 87% of Americans feel that autism is a serious

problem, and 71% of Americans want to learn more about the developmental

disorder?

* Did you know that there is currently no medical test to diagnose

autism, no specific medical treatments and no cure?

* Did you know that 69% of Americans worry about autism going

undiagnosed because there is no reliable (biological) test to diagnose the

disorder.

* Did you know that an estimated 1 million Americans suffer from an

autism spectrum disorder?

* Did you know that 77% of Americans undercount the number of people

in the U.S. who have autism spectrum disorders?

* Did you know that, despite its high prevalence, autism is one of the

lowest funded areas of medical research by both public and private sectors?

* Did you know that 89% of Americans support an increase in the amount

spent on research funding to find treatments and a cure for autism.

And most important: Did you know that autism is a part of this

Church/Congregation?

[Guest guest]

Don't forget that April is Autism Awareness month. It would be totally

appropriate to ask your Pastor to put something about Autism in ALL his

sermons this month. You could point out to him, without naming names, that

some church members are in need of a little extra Awareness, understanding

and compassion. Make it easy for him by providing the autism info.

Please don't avoid church because of this woman. She is at fault here

not you.

- G

Here are some Autism facts to start with. I think they came from NAAR via

the Schafer Autism Report;

* Did you know that approximately one in five Americans has a relative

with an autism spectrum disorder or close friend with autism in their

family?

* Did you know that an estimated 30% of the American population

cannot identify a single warning sign or symptom of autism?

* Did you know that 87% of Americans feel that autism is a serious

problem, and 71% of Americans want to learn more about the developmental

disorder?

* Did you know that there is currently no medical test to diagnose

autism, no specific medical treatments and no cure?

* Did you know that 69% of Americans worry about autism going

undiagnosed because there is no reliable (biological) test to diagnose the

disorder.

* Did you know that an estimated 1 million Americans suffer from an

autism spectrum disorder?

* Did you know that 77% of Americans undercount the number of people

in the U.S. who have autism spectrum disorders?

* Did you know that, despite its high prevalence, autism is one of the

lowest funded areas of medical research by both public and private sectors?

* Did you know that 89% of Americans support an increase in the amount

spent on research funding to find treatments and a cure for autism.

And most important: Did you know that autism is a part of this

Church/Congregation?