Re: Chelation Question Andy?

[Guest guest]

> My doctor advised me not to bother with the night doses of DMSA and

> ALA. He also wanted me to give my son 750mg of DMSA in one dose.

> I'm using 25 to 30mg of DMSA and ALA for a 72 pound boy. Could

> skipping the night doses have caused head banging?

Maybe. Maybe not.

It certainly is suspicious, but I'd also have him checked by someone

who does cranial sacral therapy.

>He's bashed 5

> holes in the wallboard. Is Supernuthera enough for supplements?

No, he needs a lot more vitamin C and vitamin A and some milk thistle

extract. Probably a lot more zinc too.

>I also give him Cod Liver Oil and Primrose Oil.

[Guest guest]

Hi.

I know you asked this question of Andy, so forgive my jumping in here.

but I just wanted to comment

that my daughter’s self-injurious behaviors become much worse when the

chelation doses are more

than 4 hrs apart. In fact, as we approach 4 hrs. she begins

headbanging, so for us, the night dosing

is crucial to keeping her from “flipping out” and becoming

self-injurious. And the extra anti-oxidants

that Andy mentioned make a BIG difference on how she handles the

chelation. Less SIBs with more

antioxidants.

[ ] Re: Chelation Question Andy?

> My doctor advised me not to bother with the night doses of DMSA and

> ALA. He also wanted me to give my son 750mg of DMSA in one dose.

> I'm using 25 to 30mg of DMSA and ALA for a 72 pound boy. Could

> skipping the night doses have caused head banging?

Maybe. Maybe not.

It certainly is suspicious, but I'd also have him checked by someone

who does cranial sacral therapy.

>He's bashed 5

> holes in the wallboard. Is Supernuthera enough for supplements?

No, he needs a lot more vitamin C and vitamin A and some milk thistle

extract. Probably a lot more zinc too.

>I also give him Cod Liver Oil and Primrose Oil.

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[Guest guest]

Marina; We've seen so much " flipping out " over the years that I

didn't really give it much thought until his head actually started

going through the walls. We thought magnesium that we give him once

in a while for constipation may be helping him remain more calm but

other factors could not be discounted as the cause since all the

flipping out seems to happen for no apparent reason. I also had to

convince my wife to pay more attention to Andy than the doctor we saw

and his answer has helped with that. Your insight will also help.

Thanks.

> Hi.

> I know you asked this question of Andy, so forgive my jumping in

here.

> but I just wanted to comment

> that my daughter's self-injurious behaviors become much worse when

the

> chelation doses are more

> than 4 hrs apart. In fact, as we approach 4 hrs. she begins

> headbanging, so for us, the night dosing

> is crucial to keeping her from " flipping out " and becoming

> self-injurious. And the extra anti-oxidants

> that Andy mentioned make a BIG difference on how she handles the

> chelation. Less SIBs with more

> antioxidants.

>

> [ ] Re: Chelation Question Andy?

>

> > My doctor advised me not to bother with the night doses of DMSA

and

> > ALA. He also wanted me to give my son 750mg of DMSA in one

dose.

> > I'm using 25 to 30mg of DMSA and ALA for a 72 pound boy. Could

> > skipping the night doses have caused head banging?

>

> Maybe. Maybe not.

>

> It certainly is suspicious, but I'd also have him checked by

someone

> who does cranial sacral therapy.

>

> >He's bashed 5

> > holes in the wallboard. Is Supernuthera enough for supplements?

>

> No, he needs a lot more vitamin C and vitamin A and some milk

thistle

> extract. Probably a lot more zinc too.

>

> >I also give him Cod Liver Oil and Primrose Oil.

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

We always try to play it by ear.

You might consider rotating days for mineral and vitamin intake. I'm pretty sure

that every so often you reach a point where you have to clear the slate.

In our case, we thought it was " just the metals coming out " , but we reduced the

intake of everything and saw improvement. It could be that our son isn't

tolerating one or more of them right now.

We skipped for a couple days and the day before yesterday our son had his best

day since becoming poisoned. We put them back in yesterday morning and things

slipped some.

[ ] Re: Chelation Question Andy?

>

> > My doctor advised me not to bother with the night doses of DMSA

and

> > ALA. He also wanted me to give my son 750mg of DMSA in one

dose.

> > I'm using 25 to 30mg of DMSA and ALA for a 72 pound boy. Could

> > skipping the night doses have caused head banging?

>

> Maybe. Maybe not.

>

> It certainly is suspicious, but I'd also have him checked by

someone

> who does cranial sacral therapy.

>

> >He's bashed 5

> > holes in the wallboard. Is Supernuthera enough for supplements?

>

> No, he needs a lot more vitamin C and vitamin A and some milk

thistle

> extract. Probably a lot more zinc too.

>

> >I also give him Cod Liver Oil and Primrose Oil.

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

We cannot use milk Thistle, 1 cap and her hearing sensitivity goes WAY

up and lasts for WEEKS! Any other antioxitiant ideas to use while

chelating???

Laurie

Mom to Grace 7

> No, he needs a lot more vitamin C and vitamin A and some milk thistle

> extract. Probably a lot more zinc too.

[Guest guest]

> We cannot use milk Thistle, 1 cap and her hearing sensitivity goes WAY

> up and lasts for WEEKS!

Milk thistle is for liver support, it is not an antioxidant, at least

not that I know of.

>>Any other antioxitiant ideas to use while

> chelating???

Vitamin C, vitamin E, selenium, a few other things.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> We cannot use milk Thistle, 1 cap and her hearing sensitivity goes

WAY

> up and lasts for WEEKS! Any other antioxitiant ideas to use while

> chelating???

>

> Laurie

> Mom to Grace 7

Hello Laurie,

Since milk thistle is for liver support, I will suggest

some other things for liver. BTW, I do NOT think I have

" enough " information to give the best suggestions possible,

so I also suggest that you read up on liver support and

liver detox in general. I've written about this so many

times that I really need to make a page about it so that

I can stop retyping similar stuff.

Anyway, here are some things that are good for liver:

1. milk thistle (I say this for others reading, so that

it won't be overlooked--- I realize you, Laurie don't

want to use it). Milk thistle is an EXCELLENT liver

support, and can be safely used by most for months at

a time.

2. low or no use of toxins/drugs/etc. This means low:

coffee, caffine, alcohol, pesticides, chemicals, hormones

(e.g. in meat), Rx drugs, OTC drugs...

3. beets (in moderation-- they are strong)

4. fenugreek seed sprouts

5. acupuncture and Chinese herbs (see an acupunturist)

and a couple of fairly obscure ones:

6. coffee enemas (probably not a good idea with kids)

7. " funnelling " with ozone gas over the liver (this requires

having a medical ozone machine, which makes this an impractical

suggestion for most people)

good wishes,

Moria