Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Ken, I have never heard of such ridiculousness. Maybe you should " drop in " to visit your son during school hours when he is in speech therapy. After all it is a " public " school and that is your right as a tax payer and a parent. Regards, mom to Colby (RSS, 11 years old, 52.4 " , 62#, Periactin) School Problems Again Hi everyone, I just wanted vent a little about our new school problems. We recently moved to a new town to get our son into a better school system. The town school system has the highest ratings in the state in many categories and it is one of the best overall for New Hampshire. A few weeks ago, right after the start of school we had an IEP/transition meeting. We met with my son's teacher, speech therapist, O/T and Sp. Ed. director. During the meeting we specifically asked the speech therapist if she was 's (my son) speech therapist, and we asked how was he doing, has she met him yet etc. She answered, she had met him, he was doing fine, she was his therapist, and that she also had an assistant to help out (her exact words).That sounded wonderful, a therapist and an assistant working with our son. Well, were floored this weekend when we got a form letter in the mail with 's therapy schedule on it and it listed his speech therapist as the assistant. The letter also stated that the speech therapist in our meeting was just a supervisor and not anyone's actual therapist. We called the school this morning and they confirmed that indeed our son gets his therapy from the assistant only. We asked and learned that the assistant has no formal training or education in speech therapy but has had OJT and has worked as an assistant for a couple of years but this was her first job as a therapist. We were told she meets all the State's requirement for a speech therapist -- apparantly she is breathing and that is all that counts. Next, we asked if we could meet the assistant and since she is our son's therapist would she be at the next IEP meeting since she wasn't at the last one. We were told, no we can meet her. We cannot conatct her in any way, we must go through the head therapist. Also, she will not attend any IEP meetings, she is too busy. Any information will be relayed through the head therapist. What will happen next is not going to be pretty. I don't think we will be getting Christmas cards from the Sp Ed. director or the principal when we get done. By the way, regarding the discussion on extra hair. I could use it because I am losing mine by the hand full. It is a little painful but should stop soon. Ken M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Ken, I have never heard of such ridiculousness. Maybe you should " drop in " to visit your son during school hours when he is in speech therapy. After all it is a " public " school and that is your right as a tax payer and a parent. Regards, mom to Colby (RSS, 11 years old, 52.4 " , 62#, Periactin) School Problems Again Hi everyone, I just wanted vent a little about our new school problems. We recently moved to a new town to get our son into a better school system. The town school system has the highest ratings in the state in many categories and it is one of the best overall for New Hampshire. A few weeks ago, right after the start of school we had an IEP/transition meeting. We met with my son's teacher, speech therapist, O/T and Sp. Ed. director. During the meeting we specifically asked the speech therapist if she was 's (my son) speech therapist, and we asked how was he doing, has she met him yet etc. She answered, she had met him, he was doing fine, she was his therapist, and that she also had an assistant to help out (her exact words).That sounded wonderful, a therapist and an assistant working with our son. Well, were floored this weekend when we got a form letter in the mail with 's therapy schedule on it and it listed his speech therapist as the assistant. The letter also stated that the speech therapist in our meeting was just a supervisor and not anyone's actual therapist. We called the school this morning and they confirmed that indeed our son gets his therapy from the assistant only. We asked and learned that the assistant has no formal training or education in speech therapy but has had OJT and has worked as an assistant for a couple of years but this was her first job as a therapist. We were told she meets all the State's requirement for a speech therapist -- apparantly she is breathing and that is all that counts. Next, we asked if we could meet the assistant and since she is our son's therapist would she be at the next IEP meeting since she wasn't at the last one. We were told, no we can meet her. We cannot conatct her in any way, we must go through the head therapist. Also, she will not attend any IEP meetings, she is too busy. Any information will be relayed through the head therapist. What will happen next is not going to be pretty. I don't think we will be getting Christmas cards from the Sp Ed. director or the principal when we get done. By the way, regarding the discussion on extra hair. I could use it because I am losing mine by the hand full. It is a little painful but should stop soon. Ken M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Ken, I have never heard of such ridiculousness. Maybe you should " drop in " to visit your son during school hours when he is in speech therapy. After all it is a " public " school and that is your right as a tax payer and a parent. Regards, mom to Colby (RSS, 11 years old, 52.4 " , 62#, Periactin) School Problems Again Hi everyone, I just wanted vent a little about our new school problems. We recently moved to a new town to get our son into a better school system. The town school system has the highest ratings in the state in many categories and it is one of the best overall for New Hampshire. A few weeks ago, right after the start of school we had an IEP/transition meeting. We met with my son's teacher, speech therapist, O/T and Sp. Ed. director. During the meeting we specifically asked the speech therapist if she was 's (my son) speech therapist, and we asked how was he doing, has she met him yet etc. She answered, she had met him, he was doing fine, she was his therapist, and that she also had an assistant to help out (her exact words).That sounded wonderful, a therapist and an assistant working with our son. Well, were floored this weekend when we got a form letter in the mail with 's therapy schedule on it and it listed his speech therapist as the assistant. The letter also stated that the speech therapist in our meeting was just a supervisor and not anyone's actual therapist. We called the school this morning and they confirmed that indeed our son gets his therapy from the assistant only. We asked and learned that the assistant has no formal training or education in speech therapy but has had OJT and has worked as an assistant for a couple of years but this was her first job as a therapist. We were told she meets all the State's requirement for a speech therapist -- apparantly she is breathing and that is all that counts. Next, we asked if we could meet the assistant and since she is our son's therapist would she be at the next IEP meeting since she wasn't at the last one. We were told, no we can meet her. We cannot conatct her in any way, we must go through the head therapist. Also, she will not attend any IEP meetings, she is too busy. Any information will be relayed through the head therapist. What will happen next is not going to be pretty. I don't think we will be getting Christmas cards from the Sp Ed. director or the principal when we get done. By the way, regarding the discussion on extra hair. I could use it because I am losing mine by the hand full. It is a little painful but should stop soon. Ken M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Oh, Ken, what they are doing to you is not quite " kosher. " What they will probably say is the the head therapist will use her assistant to do the therapy, but she will " supervise " and her credentials will go on all forms. I'm not too sure this is legal. I KNOW it is not in NJ. All speech therapists must have a license and they are they only ones who can provide therapy. If that therapist is too busy, then they should be hiring someone part time to fulfill the needs of the students. You are being royally " screwed, " to put it gently. Go back and fight this one! I'll be looking for the fireworks! Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Oh, Ken, what they are doing to you is not quite " kosher. " What they will probably say is the the head therapist will use her assistant to do the therapy, but she will " supervise " and her credentials will go on all forms. I'm not too sure this is legal. I KNOW it is not in NJ. All speech therapists must have a license and they are they only ones who can provide therapy. If that therapist is too busy, then they should be hiring someone part time to fulfill the needs of the students. You are being royally " screwed, " to put it gently. Go back and fight this one! I'll be looking for the fireworks! Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 TITLE XV EDUCATION Hi Ken, A quick internet such led me to the following information. This is the page of the actual LAW in New Hampshire that states a " Certified speech-language specialists shall provide speech-language pathology services for schools only. " http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XV/189/189-14-e.htm CHAPTER 189 SCHOOL BOARDS, SUPERINTENDENTS, TEACHERS, AND TRUANT OFFICERS; SCHOOL CENSUS School Boards, Transportation and Instruction of Pupils Section 189:14-e 189:14-e Speech-Language Specialists. – I. (a) The department of education shall certify speech-language specialists pursuant to RSA 21-N:9, II(s). Certified speech-language specialists shall provide speech-language pathology services for schools only. ( The department of education shall establish the criteria for certification as a speech-language specialist which shall include a minimum of a masters degree in speech-language pathology, or its equivalent as determined by the state board of education. II. Speech-language pathologists licensed pursuant to RSA 326-F and 328-F shall automatically meet certification requirements under this section. Source. 1996, 271:4, eff. Aug. 9, 1996. 1997, 287:2, eff. Jan. 1, 1998. Also if you go to: http://www.ed.state.nh.us/Certification/rules507-01to612-05.htm#Ed% 20507.23%20Speech-Language%20Specialist. you can see the education requirements for a speech pathologist specialist. If they try to give you some BS that she is a Speech Pathologist Assistant just know that they to have to be licenced in the state of New Hampshire. Hope this helps. Mimi mother of Natalee(17 months RSS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hi , we have already tried dropping in and we have been told that we cannot without an appointment. We will change that also. Ken M > Ken, > I have never heard of such ridiculousness. Maybe you should " drop in " to > visit your son during school hours when he is in speech therapy. After all > it is a " public " school and that is your right as a tax payer and a parent. > > Regards, > mom to Colby (RSS, 11 years old, 52.4 " , 62#, Periactin) > > > School Problems Again > > Hi everyone, > > I just wanted vent a little about our new school problems. > > We recently moved to a new town to get our son into a better school > system. The town school system has the highest ratings in the state > in many categories and it is one of the best overall for New > Hampshire. > > A few weeks ago, right after the start of school we had an > IEP/transition meeting. We met with my son's teacher, speech > therapist, O/T and Sp. Ed. director. During the meeting we > specifically asked the speech therapist if she was 's (my son) > speech therapist, and we asked how was he doing, has she met him yet > etc. She answered, she had met him, he was doing fine, she was his > therapist, and that she also had an assistant to help out (her exact > words).That sounded wonderful, a therapist and an assistant working > with our son. > > Well, were floored this weekend when we got a form letter in the mail > with 's therapy schedule on it and it listed his speech > therapist as the assistant. The letter also stated that the speech > therapist in our meeting was just a supervisor and not anyone's > actual therapist. > > We called the school this morning and they confirmed that indeed our > son gets his therapy from the assistant only. We asked and learned > that the assistant has no formal training or education in speech > therapy but has had OJT and has worked as an assistant for a couple > of years but this was her first job as a therapist. We were told she > meets all the State's requirement for a speech therapist -- > apparantly she is breathing and that is all that counts. > > Next, we asked if we could meet the assistant and since she is our > son's therapist would she be at the next IEP meeting since she wasn't > at the last one. > > We were told, no we can meet her. We cannot conatct her in any way, > we must go through the head therapist. Also, she will not attend any > IEP meetings, she is too busy. Any information will be relayed > through the head therapist. > > What will happen next is not going to be pretty. I don't think we > will be getting Christmas cards from the Sp Ed. director or the > principal when we get done. > > By the way, regarding the discussion on extra hair. I could use it > because I am losing mine by the hand full. It is a little painful but > should stop soon. > > > Ken M > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hi , we have already tried dropping in and we have been told that we cannot without an appointment. We will change that also. Ken M > Ken, > I have never heard of such ridiculousness. Maybe you should " drop in " to > visit your son during school hours when he is in speech therapy. After all > it is a " public " school and that is your right as a tax payer and a parent. > > Regards, > mom to Colby (RSS, 11 years old, 52.4 " , 62#, Periactin) > > > School Problems Again > > Hi everyone, > > I just wanted vent a little about our new school problems. > > We recently moved to a new town to get our son into a better school > system. The town school system has the highest ratings in the state > in many categories and it is one of the best overall for New > Hampshire. > > A few weeks ago, right after the start of school we had an > IEP/transition meeting. We met with my son's teacher, speech > therapist, O/T and Sp. Ed. director. During the meeting we > specifically asked the speech therapist if she was 's (my son) > speech therapist, and we asked how was he doing, has she met him yet > etc. She answered, she had met him, he was doing fine, she was his > therapist, and that she also had an assistant to help out (her exact > words).That sounded wonderful, a therapist and an assistant working > with our son. > > Well, were floored this weekend when we got a form letter in the mail > with 's therapy schedule on it and it listed his speech > therapist as the assistant. The letter also stated that the speech > therapist in our meeting was just a supervisor and not anyone's > actual therapist. > > We called the school this morning and they confirmed that indeed our > son gets his therapy from the assistant only. We asked and learned > that the assistant has no formal training or education in speech > therapy but has had OJT and has worked as an assistant for a couple > of years but this was her first job as a therapist. We were told she > meets all the State's requirement for a speech therapist -- > apparantly she is breathing and that is all that counts. > > Next, we asked if we could meet the assistant and since she is our > son's therapist would she be at the next IEP meeting since she wasn't > at the last one. > > We were told, no we can meet her. We cannot conatct her in any way, > we must go through the head therapist. Also, she will not attend any > IEP meetings, she is too busy. Any information will be relayed > through the head therapist. > > What will happen next is not going to be pretty. I don't think we > will be getting Christmas cards from the Sp Ed. director or the > principal when we get done. > > By the way, regarding the discussion on extra hair. I could use it > because I am losing mine by the hand full. It is a little painful but > should stop soon. > > > Ken M > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hi , we have already tried dropping in and we have been told that we cannot without an appointment. We will change that also. Ken M > Ken, > I have never heard of such ridiculousness. Maybe you should " drop in " to > visit your son during school hours when he is in speech therapy. After all > it is a " public " school and that is your right as a tax payer and a parent. > > Regards, > mom to Colby (RSS, 11 years old, 52.4 " , 62#, Periactin) > > > School Problems Again > > Hi everyone, > > I just wanted vent a little about our new school problems. > > We recently moved to a new town to get our son into a better school > system. The town school system has the highest ratings in the state > in many categories and it is one of the best overall for New > Hampshire. > > A few weeks ago, right after the start of school we had an > IEP/transition meeting. We met with my son's teacher, speech > therapist, O/T and Sp. Ed. director. During the meeting we > specifically asked the speech therapist if she was 's (my son) > speech therapist, and we asked how was he doing, has she met him yet > etc. She answered, she had met him, he was doing fine, she was his > therapist, and that she also had an assistant to help out (her exact > words).That sounded wonderful, a therapist and an assistant working > with our son. > > Well, were floored this weekend when we got a form letter in the mail > with 's therapy schedule on it and it listed his speech > therapist as the assistant. The letter also stated that the speech > therapist in our meeting was just a supervisor and not anyone's > actual therapist. > > We called the school this morning and they confirmed that indeed our > son gets his therapy from the assistant only. We asked and learned > that the assistant has no formal training or education in speech > therapy but has had OJT and has worked as an assistant for a couple > of years but this was her first job as a therapist. We were told she > meets all the State's requirement for a speech therapist -- > apparantly she is breathing and that is all that counts. > > Next, we asked if we could meet the assistant and since she is our > son's therapist would she be at the next IEP meeting since she wasn't > at the last one. > > We were told, no we can meet her. We cannot conatct her in any way, > we must go through the head therapist. Also, she will not attend any > IEP meetings, she is too busy. Any information will be relayed > through the head therapist. > > What will happen next is not going to be pretty. I don't think we > will be getting Christmas cards from the Sp Ed. director or the > principal when we get done. > > By the way, regarding the discussion on extra hair. I could use it > because I am losing mine by the hand full. It is a little painful but > should stop soon. > > > Ken M > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hi Mimi, Thanks !!!! Just let me know where I can kiss you. Ken M > TITLE XV > EDUCATION > Hi Ken, > A quick internet such led me to the following information. This is > the page of the actual LAW in New Hampshire that states a " Certified > speech-language specialists shall provide speech-language pathology > services for schools only. " > > http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XV/189/189-14-e.htm > > CHAPTER 189 > SCHOOL BOARDS, SUPERINTENDENTS, TEACHERS, AND TRUANT OFFICERS; SCHOOL > CENSUS > School Boards, Transportation and Instruction of Pupils > Section 189:14-e > 189:14-e Speech-Language Specialists. – > I. (a) The department of education shall certify speech- language > specialists pursuant to RSA 21-N:9, II(s). Certified speech- language > specialists shall provide speech-language pathology services for > schools only. > ( The department of education shall establish the criteria > for certification as a speech-language specialist which shall include > a minimum of a masters degree in speech-language pathology, or its > equivalent as determined by the state board of education. > II. Speech-language pathologists licensed pursuant to RSA 326-F > and 328-F shall automatically meet certification requirements under > this section. > Source. 1996, 271:4, eff. Aug. 9, 1996. 1997, 287:2, eff. Jan. 1, > 1998. > > Also if you go to: > > http://www.ed.state.nh.us/Certification/rules507-01to612-05.htm#Ed% > 20507.23%20Speech-Language%20Specialist. > you can see the education requirements for a speech pathologist > specialist. If they try to give you some BS that she is a Speech > Pathologist Assistant just know that they to have to be licenced in > the state of New Hampshire. > Hope this helps. > > Mimi mother of Natalee(17 months RSS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hi Mimi, Thanks !!!! Just let me know where I can kiss you. Ken M > TITLE XV > EDUCATION > Hi Ken, > A quick internet such led me to the following information. This is > the page of the actual LAW in New Hampshire that states a " Certified > speech-language specialists shall provide speech-language pathology > services for schools only. " > > http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XV/189/189-14-e.htm > > CHAPTER 189 > SCHOOL BOARDS, SUPERINTENDENTS, TEACHERS, AND TRUANT OFFICERS; SCHOOL > CENSUS > School Boards, Transportation and Instruction of Pupils > Section 189:14-e > 189:14-e Speech-Language Specialists. – > I. (a) The department of education shall certify speech- language > specialists pursuant to RSA 21-N:9, II(s). Certified speech- language > specialists shall provide speech-language pathology services for > schools only. > ( The department of education shall establish the criteria > for certification as a speech-language specialist which shall include > a minimum of a masters degree in speech-language pathology, or its > equivalent as determined by the state board of education. > II. Speech-language pathologists licensed pursuant to RSA 326-F > and 328-F shall automatically meet certification requirements under > this section. > Source. 1996, 271:4, eff. Aug. 9, 1996. 1997, 287:2, eff. Jan. 1, > 1998. > > Also if you go to: > > http://www.ed.state.nh.us/Certification/rules507-01to612-05.htm#Ed% > 20507.23%20Speech-Language%20Specialist. > you can see the education requirements for a speech pathologist > specialist. If they try to give you some BS that she is a Speech > Pathologist Assistant just know that they to have to be licenced in > the state of New Hampshire. > Hope this helps. > > Mimi mother of Natalee(17 months RSS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hi Mimi, Thanks !!!! Just let me know where I can kiss you. Ken M > TITLE XV > EDUCATION > Hi Ken, > A quick internet such led me to the following information. This is > the page of the actual LAW in New Hampshire that states a " Certified > speech-language specialists shall provide speech-language pathology > services for schools only. " > > http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XV/189/189-14-e.htm > > CHAPTER 189 > SCHOOL BOARDS, SUPERINTENDENTS, TEACHERS, AND TRUANT OFFICERS; SCHOOL > CENSUS > School Boards, Transportation and Instruction of Pupils > Section 189:14-e > 189:14-e Speech-Language Specialists. – > I. (a) The department of education shall certify speech- language > specialists pursuant to RSA 21-N:9, II(s). Certified speech- language > specialists shall provide speech-language pathology services for > schools only. > ( The department of education shall establish the criteria > for certification as a speech-language specialist which shall include > a minimum of a masters degree in speech-language pathology, or its > equivalent as determined by the state board of education. > II. Speech-language pathologists licensed pursuant to RSA 326-F > and 328-F shall automatically meet certification requirements under > this section. > Source. 1996, 271:4, eff. Aug. 9, 1996. 1997, 287:2, eff. Jan. 1, > 1998. > > Also if you go to: > > http://www.ed.state.nh.us/Certification/rules507-01to612-05.htm#Ed% > 20507.23%20Speech-Language%20Specialist. > you can see the education requirements for a speech pathologist > specialist. If they try to give you some BS that she is a Speech > Pathologist Assistant just know that they to have to be licenced in > the state of New Hampshire. > Hope this helps. > > Mimi mother of Natalee(17 months RSS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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