Re: GOVERNOR SWARTZENEGGER SIGNS MERCURY BILL!!!

[Guest guest]

Maybe this is a naive question, but what about the flu shots? I guess I would

have assumed they would have been lumped into this movement.

Also, is one even capable of finding a flu shot without thimerosal in it, like

if someone wanted to pay extra???

Thanks,

Kari

[ ] GOVERNOR SWARTZENEGGER SIGNS MERCURY BILL!!!

Roxanne R. Przybysz

Founding Director

Autism Canada Foundation

http://autismcanada.org/home.htm

http://www.autismcanada.org/RansomVIDEOpsa.mov

California Governor Swartzenegger today signed into law AB 2943

(Pavley), the bill that will ban the use of mercury containing vaccines

in California. Below is my personal statement on this historic event.

Rick Rollens/M.I.N.D. Institute

[Guest guest]

The California bill covers the flu shot, but not for this upcoming flu

season.

At this point, it is almost impossible to buy the Aventis Fluzone in the

individual dose, prefilled syringes with the pink stopper that are

thimerosal-free. Aventis only made a small amount of this formulation,

and the CDC bought almost the entire production of it for use in the

public health clinics. For those trying to buy on the private market,

you're out of luck. The other brands and multidose Fluzones have

thimerosal (except Flumist, which is not approved for infants).

However, for unbeknowst reasons, Aventis decided to make lots of

thimerosal-free flu vaccine for sale in CANADA (as well as New Zealand,

Australia, etc.). Instead of calling it Fluzone, they're calling it

Vaxigrip. Other than the thimerosal and some chick embryos, Vaxigrip is

the same formulation as Fluzone. It contains a trace of mercury (1

micrograms, vs the 25 in the thimerosal-containing Fluzone). Wonders of

all, Aventis was able to make Vaxigrip in multidose vials with just a

trace of thimerosal. Wonder why they couldn't do that down here?

There are Canadian online pharmacies which sell Vaxigrip into the US

market, and for less than the cost of Fluzone. If you're really psyched

to get your flu shot, you can order from one of them.

Kari Trautman wrote:

>Maybe this is a naive question, but what about the flu shots? I guess I would

have assumed they would have been lumped into this movement.

>Also, is one even capable of finding a flu shot without thimerosal in it, like

if someone wanted to pay extra???

>Thanks,

>Kari

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Wonders of

> all, Aventis was able to make Vaxigrip in multidose vials with just a

> trace of thimerosal. Wonder why they couldn't do that down here?

Might it have something to do with those not being FDA approved?

Andy. . . .. . . . .

[Guest guest]

Well, why can HealthCanada approve such a thing but US FDA can't?

andrewhallcutler wrote:

>> Wonders of

>>all, Aventis was able to make Vaxigrip in multidose vials with just a

>>trace of thimerosal. Wonder why they couldn't do that down here?

>>

>>

>

>Might it have something to do with those not being FDA approved?

>

>Andy. . . .. . . . .

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the explanation. I am SO not psyched, but do have family members

that are. Looking into this might be better than going down to the local Long's

for their annual shot.

Kari

Re: [ ] GOVERNOR SWARTZENEGGER SIGNS MERCURY BILL!!!

The California bill covers the flu shot, but not for this upcoming flu

season.

At this point, it is almost impossible to buy the Aventis Fluzone in the

individual dose, prefilled syringes with the pink stopper that are

thimerosal-free. Aventis only made a small amount of this formulation,

and the CDC bought almost the entire production of it for use in the

public health clinics. For those trying to buy on the private market,

you're out of luck. The other brands and multidose Fluzones have

thimerosal (except Flumist, which is not approved for infants).

However, for unbeknowst reasons, Aventis decided to make lots of

thimerosal-free flu vaccine for sale in CANADA (as well as New Zealand,

Australia, etc.). Instead of calling it Fluzone, they're calling it

Vaxigrip. Other than the thimerosal and some chick embryos, Vaxigrip is

the same formulation as Fluzone. It contains a trace of mercury (1

micrograms, vs the 25 in the thimerosal-containing Fluzone). Wonders of

all, Aventis was able to make Vaxigrip in multidose vials with just a

trace of thimerosal. Wonder why they couldn't do that down here?

There are Canadian online pharmacies which sell Vaxigrip into the US

market, and for less than the cost of Fluzone. If you're really psyched

to get your flu shot, you can order from one of them.

Kari Trautman wrote:

>Maybe this is a naive question, but what about the flu shots? I guess I

would have assumed they would have been lumped into this movement.

>Also, is one even capable of finding a flu shot without thimerosal in it,

like if someone wanted to pay extra???

>Thanks,

>Kari

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

The flu shots are allowed a higher level of thimerisol - this bill was

amended to read that way.

>

> Maybe this is a naive question, but what about the flu shots? I guess I

> would have assumed they would have been lumped into this movement.

> Also, is one even capable of finding a flu shot without thimerosal in it,

> like if someone wanted to pay extra???

> Thanks,

> Kari

[Guest guest]

Kari,

We tried very hard (in Iowa) to get the flu shots on as part of the bill,

but the Dept. of Health would not go for that and the bill would have died

in committee if we hadn't made some compromises. However, Weldon's bill

(the national one) DOES include the flu shots, so make sure your

representatives and senators are supporting this!!!!

I'm guessing the same situation came up in Callyfornia, where

Aventis-Pasteur was fighting hard against this.

Remember, it's to their advantage to keep some mercury in the pipeline,

otherwise the numbers will go down too fast.

Barb

Re: [ ] GOVERNOR SWARTZENEGGER SIGNS MERCURY BILL!!!

> The flu shots are allowed a higher level of thimerisol - this bill was

> amended to read that way.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Maybe this is a naive question, but what about the flu shots? I guess I

> > would have assumed they would have been lumped into this movement.

> > Also, is one even capable of finding a flu shot without thimerosal in

it,

> > like if someone wanted to pay extra???

> > Thanks,

> > Kari

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I stand corrected. Thanks Kari!

Barb

Re: [ ] GOVERNOR SWARTZENEGGER SIGNS MERCURY

BILL!!!

>

>

> The California bill covers the flu shot, but not for this upcoming flu

> season.

>

> At this point, it is almost impossible to buy the Aventis Fluzone in the

> individual dose, prefilled syringes with the pink stopper that are

> thimerosal-free. Aventis only made a small amount of this formulation,

> and the CDC bought almost the entire production of it for use in the

> public health clinics. For those trying to buy on the private market,

> you're out of luck. The other brands and multidose Fluzones have

> thimerosal (except Flumist, which is not approved for infants).

>

> However, for unbeknowst reasons, Aventis decided to make lots of

> thimerosal-free flu vaccine for sale in CANADA (as well as New Zealand,

> Australia, etc.). Instead of calling it Fluzone, they're calling it

> Vaxigrip. Other than the thimerosal and some chick embryos, Vaxigrip is

> the same formulation as Fluzone. It contains a trace of mercury (1

> micrograms, vs the 25 in the thimerosal-containing Fluzone). Wonders of

> all, Aventis was able to make Vaxigrip in multidose vials with just a

> trace of thimerosal. Wonder why they couldn't do that down here?

>

> There are Canadian online pharmacies which sell Vaxigrip into the US

> market, and for less than the cost of Fluzone. If you're really psyched

> to get your flu shot, you can order from one of them.

>

>

> Kari Trautman wrote:

>

> >Maybe this is a naive question, but what about the flu shots? I guess

I would have assumed they would have been lumped into this movement.

> >Also, is one even capable of finding a flu shot without thimerosal in

it, like if someone wanted to pay extra???

> >Thanks,

> >Kari

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Re: [ ] GOVERNOR SWARTZENEGGER SIGNS MERCURY BILL!!!

The California bill covers the flu shot, but not for this upcoming flu

season.

At this point, it is almost impossible to buy the Aventis Fluzone in the

individual dose, prefilled syringes with the pink stopper that are

thimerosal-free. Aventis only made a small amount of this formulation,

and the CDC bought almost the entire production of it for use in the

public health clinics.

It's pretty clear that as prognosticators these vaccinators are clueless. They

sure whiffed completely last year.

On the eve of the flu - vaccine - induced flu epidemic season I offer this

advice.

I never worry about getting the flu shot. I just wait and catch the flu from

somebody that's already been vaccinated!

[Guest guest]

> Well, why can HealthCanada approve such a thing but US FDA can't?

Perhaps they are less bureaucratic, less oppositional, or require

smaller payoffs?

> andrewhallcutler wrote:

>

> >> Wonders of

> >>all, Aventis was able to make Vaxigrip in multidose vials with just a

> >>trace of thimerosal. Wonder why they couldn't do that down here?

> >>

> >>

> >

> >Might it have something to do with those not being FDA approved?

> >

> >Andy. . . .. . . . .

> >

> >

> >

> >