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I would like to add something if I may. I do not work but have raised 4 kids of my own and done volunteer work at my son's school until he entered High School. I have learned that for some reason or other it has been easier for me to read kids' lips. Also kids are more open minded than adults, that is shameful to say but true, they accept a person being "different" a lot sooner. At least that has been my experience. They also learn easier right?? So you teach them the alphabet in sign language and you have the communication barrier taken care of. :o)

Donna

Nate, this is why I like the idea of teaching, i am volunteering in a 2nd/3rd

grade class 1 day a week now and you r right when you say you are in control

of communivcation, thats what makes it fairly easy for me, i havecontrol, or

am suppose to! :-) was thinking teaching might, just might, maybe not, be

hard for jeff if he is just going deaf, some people need a year or so to

grieve and learn to deal with it. however getting right out there is the

surest way to learn to adjust.

and Christi Waldrip wrote:

> --- Marie Drew wrote:

> > Nate, you're on!

>

> Jeff,

>

> I am in my 7th year as a math teacher/coach (football,

> basketball, and track). I am 100% deaf, and have been

> my entire teaching career.

>

> I worried about the same things, but just figured I

> would handle it once the time came, and that is pretty

> much what I've done. Do kids take advantage or make

> fun of me? Sure. I make fun of them right back,

> haha.

>

> Seriously, you have been teaching already, so you know

> the things kids pull. You already know what to look

> for. But basically, in my experience, 90% of the kids

> are good kids. The other 10% or so that WILL try to

> take advantage can be dealt with, plus- they aren't

> worth ignoring the good kids over.

>

> I teach math, which is fairly easy to catch kids

> cheating. Since it is a logical, step-by-step

> process, if a kid's work does not lead to his answer,

> you know he cheated. I also give out alternate exams.

> And I mean, I make out AT LEAST three, sometimes as

> many as 5-6 DIFFERENT quizzes or exams, and mix them

> all up. If a kid copies, he's copying the wrong

> answer. In fact, I just caught a kid cheating that

> way not two weeks ago.

>

> But as the teacher, YOU ARE IN CONTROL of

> communication. This helps immensely.

>

> You will get kids who try to cuss in class. When you

> find out, and you will, handle it SEVERELY. I had a

> kid in class earlier this year tell me to "shut the

> fuck up." He did this while I wasn't looking at him.

> Another kid itold me about it later that day (foster

> your relationships with the tattletales! haha) I

> wrote him a referral for Gross Insubordination. He

> got slapped with a week of Off-Campus Suspension.

>

> I have my share of problems, but no more than any

> other teacher. Like I tell my kids- I know the

> students make fun of me- the way I walk, my being

> deaf, etc. But IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME. ALL kids make

> fun of their teachers. It's what kids do. And being

> deaf and walking like I do makes me an easy target.

> The trick is to laugh at yourself. Let them laugh

> with you, not at you, to use a corny phrase.

>

> Trust me, you find ways to keep them from taking

> advantage of you. Make sure you work in a district

> with good kids. I worked in a district with TERRIBLE,

> ROTTEN LITTLE ********s before moving to s, and

> I hated it. But here, the kids are great, the

> administration is supportive, etc.

>

> If you like teaching, THERE IS NO REASON TO ABANDON IT

> JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DEAF.

>

> If I can answer any other questions, give me a holler.

>

> Nate

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I would like to add something if I may. I do not work but have raised 4 kids of my own and done volunteer work at my son's school until he entered High School. I have learned that for some reason or other it has been easier for me to read kids' lips. Also kids are more open minded than adults, that is shameful to say but true, they accept a person being "different" a lot sooner. At least that has been my experience. They also learn easier right?? So you teach them the alphabet in sign language and you have the communication barrier taken care of. :o)

Donna

Nate, this is why I like the idea of teaching, i am volunteering in a 2nd/3rd

grade class 1 day a week now and you r right when you say you are in control

of communivcation, thats what makes it fairly easy for me, i havecontrol, or

am suppose to! :-) was thinking teaching might, just might, maybe not, be

hard for jeff if he is just going deaf, some people need a year or so to

grieve and learn to deal with it. however getting right out there is the

surest way to learn to adjust.

and Christi Waldrip wrote:

> --- Marie Drew wrote:

> > Nate, you're on!

>

> Jeff,

>

> I am in my 7th year as a math teacher/coach (football,

> basketball, and track). I am 100% deaf, and have been

> my entire teaching career.

>

> I worried about the same things, but just figured I

> would handle it once the time came, and that is pretty

> much what I've done. Do kids take advantage or make

> fun of me? Sure. I make fun of them right back,

> haha.

>

> Seriously, you have been teaching already, so you know

> the things kids pull. You already know what to look

> for. But basically, in my experience, 90% of the kids

> are good kids. The other 10% or so that WILL try to

> take advantage can be dealt with, plus- they aren't

> worth ignoring the good kids over.

>

> I teach math, which is fairly easy to catch kids

> cheating. Since it is a logical, step-by-step

> process, if a kid's work does not lead to his answer,

> you know he cheated. I also give out alternate exams.

> And I mean, I make out AT LEAST three, sometimes as

> many as 5-6 DIFFERENT quizzes or exams, and mix them

> all up. If a kid copies, he's copying the wrong

> answer. In fact, I just caught a kid cheating that

> way not two weeks ago.

>

> But as the teacher, YOU ARE IN CONTROL of

> communication. This helps immensely.

>

> You will get kids who try to cuss in class. When you

> find out, and you will, handle it SEVERELY. I had a

> kid in class earlier this year tell me to "shut the

> fuck up." He did this while I wasn't looking at him.

> Another kid itold me about it later that day (foster

> your relationships with the tattletales! haha) I

> wrote him a referral for Gross Insubordination. He

> got slapped with a week of Off-Campus Suspension.

>

> I have my share of problems, but no more than any

> other teacher. Like I tell my kids- I know the

> students make fun of me- the way I walk, my being

> deaf, etc. But IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME. ALL kids make

> fun of their teachers. It's what kids do. And being

> deaf and walking like I do makes me an easy target.

> The trick is to laugh at yourself. Let them laugh

> with you, not at you, to use a corny phrase.

>

> Trust me, you find ways to keep them from taking

> advantage of you. Make sure you work in a district

> with good kids. I worked in a district with TERRIBLE,

> ROTTEN LITTLE ********s before moving to s, and

> I hated it. But here, the kids are great, the

> administration is supportive, etc.

>

> If you like teaching, THERE IS NO REASON TO ABANDON IT

> JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DEAF.

>

> If I can answer any other questions, give me a holler.

>

> Nate

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I would like to add something if I may. I do not work but have raised 4 kids of my own and done volunteer work at my son's school until he entered High School. I have learned that for some reason or other it has been easier for me to read kids' lips. Also kids are more open minded than adults, that is shameful to say but true, they accept a person being "different" a lot sooner. At least that has been my experience. They also learn easier right?? So you teach them the alphabet in sign language and you have the communication barrier taken care of. :o)

Donna

Nate, this is why I like the idea of teaching, i am volunteering in a 2nd/3rd

grade class 1 day a week now and you r right when you say you are in control

of communivcation, thats what makes it fairly easy for me, i havecontrol, or

am suppose to! :-) was thinking teaching might, just might, maybe not, be

hard for jeff if he is just going deaf, some people need a year or so to

grieve and learn to deal with it. however getting right out there is the

surest way to learn to adjust.

and Christi Waldrip wrote:

> --- Marie Drew wrote:

> > Nate, you're on!

>

> Jeff,

>

> I am in my 7th year as a math teacher/coach (football,

> basketball, and track). I am 100% deaf, and have been

> my entire teaching career.

>

> I worried about the same things, but just figured I

> would handle it once the time came, and that is pretty

> much what I've done. Do kids take advantage or make

> fun of me? Sure. I make fun of them right back,

> haha.

>

> Seriously, you have been teaching already, so you know

> the things kids pull. You already know what to look

> for. But basically, in my experience, 90% of the kids

> are good kids. The other 10% or so that WILL try to

> take advantage can be dealt with, plus- they aren't

> worth ignoring the good kids over.

>

> I teach math, which is fairly easy to catch kids

> cheating. Since it is a logical, step-by-step

> process, if a kid's work does not lead to his answer,

> you know he cheated. I also give out alternate exams.

> And I mean, I make out AT LEAST three, sometimes as

> many as 5-6 DIFFERENT quizzes or exams, and mix them

> all up. If a kid copies, he's copying the wrong

> answer. In fact, I just caught a kid cheating that

> way not two weeks ago.

>

> But as the teacher, YOU ARE IN CONTROL of

> communication. This helps immensely.

>

> You will get kids who try to cuss in class. When you

> find out, and you will, handle it SEVERELY. I had a

> kid in class earlier this year tell me to "shut the

> fuck up." He did this while I wasn't looking at him.

> Another kid itold me about it later that day (foster

> your relationships with the tattletales! haha) I

> wrote him a referral for Gross Insubordination. He

> got slapped with a week of Off-Campus Suspension.

>

> I have my share of problems, but no more than any

> other teacher. Like I tell my kids- I know the

> students make fun of me- the way I walk, my being

> deaf, etc. But IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME. ALL kids make

> fun of their teachers. It's what kids do. And being

> deaf and walking like I do makes me an easy target.

> The trick is to laugh at yourself. Let them laugh

> with you, not at you, to use a corny phrase.

>

> Trust me, you find ways to keep them from taking

> advantage of you. Make sure you work in a district

> with good kids. I worked in a district with TERRIBLE,

> ROTTEN LITTLE ********s before moving to s, and

> I hated it. But here, the kids are great, the

> administration is supportive, etc.

>

> If you like teaching, THERE IS NO REASON TO ABANDON IT

> JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DEAF.

>

> If I can answer any other questions, give me a holler.

>

> Nate

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Jeff

This has got to be the best crew anywhere. A simple question on your mind and everyone for miles around has a great answer for you.

I think that I would have enjoyed having any one of the crew members as my teacher. As someone said about kids relating it is true. My three year old grandson asks questions which I answer and he trys to understand. There are other people in my life that do not make half the effort and are quick to complain or critize. Jeff you will make a great teacher. Go for it.

Randy

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Jeff

This has got to be the best crew anywhere. A simple question on your mind and everyone for miles around has a great answer for you.

I think that I would have enjoyed having any one of the crew members as my teacher. As someone said about kids relating it is true. My three year old grandson asks questions which I answer and he trys to understand. There are other people in my life that do not make half the effort and are quick to complain or critize. Jeff you will make a great teacher. Go for it.

Randy

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Jeff

This has got to be the best crew anywhere. A simple question on your mind and everyone for miles around has a great answer for you.

I think that I would have enjoyed having any one of the crew members as my teacher. As someone said about kids relating it is true. My three year old grandson asks questions which I answer and he trys to understand. There are other people in my life that do not make half the effort and are quick to complain or critize. Jeff you will make a great teacher. Go for it.

Randy

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Jeff, I still have some hearing left but I work for the railroad doing data

input on train movements in and out of the NJ area for intermodal shipments.

Mikey A

Occupations

> Hello all!

> I am looking at a change of occupations in the future-due to

> deafness caused by NF2. I have been a middle school band director

> for 15 years. I have lost my hearing on one side and most likely

> will have the same outcome on the other. I am curious, if you don't

> mind sharing, what you do for a living? If you are hearing

> impaired, how does that affect your work? Are there any teachers

> out there? If so, how do you deal with communication? I am

> considering training to teach another subject area, but I am afraid

> that when I can no longer hear, students will take advantage of that

> fact, and say/do things behind my back. If anyone has a career

> suggestion or stories to share, I would love to hear them.

> Thanks,

> Jeff

>

>

>

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the kids Ive been around, deaf and hearing have always been very very

accepting, my crooked smile doesnt scare them, they know i walk slow

and am deaf as deaf can be. it gives *them* the opportunity to succeed

when they are able to communicate with you and thats the whole point

of education, or an important part anyway. I havent been brave enough

to try high school age, but jeff is in middle school grades and would

do fine, id suspect its notmuch different in high school.

>

> Jeff

> This has got to be the best crew anywhere. A simple question on your

mind and everyone for miles around has a great answer for you.

> I think that I would have enjoyed having any one of the crew members

as my teacher. As someone said about kids relating it is true. My

three year old grandson asks questions which I answer and he trys to

understand. There are other people in my life that do not make half

the effort and are quick to complain or critize. Jeff you will make a

great teacher. Go for it.

> Randy

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the kids Ive been around, deaf and hearing have always been very very

accepting, my crooked smile doesnt scare them, they know i walk slow

and am deaf as deaf can be. it gives *them* the opportunity to succeed

when they are able to communicate with you and thats the whole point

of education, or an important part anyway. I havent been brave enough

to try high school age, but jeff is in middle school grades and would

do fine, id suspect its notmuch different in high school.

>

> Jeff

> This has got to be the best crew anywhere. A simple question on your

mind and everyone for miles around has a great answer for you.

> I think that I would have enjoyed having any one of the crew members

as my teacher. As someone said about kids relating it is true. My

three year old grandson asks questions which I answer and he trys to

understand. There are other people in my life that do not make half

the effort and are quick to complain or critize. Jeff you will make a

great teacher. Go for it.

> Randy

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right on D!! Kids and young adults would usually eat up learning a bit

of sign, just basics, enough to help translate.

In NF2_Crew@y..., donnahut@a... wrote:

> I would like to add something if I may. I do not work but have

raised 4 kids

> of my own and done volunteer work at my son's school until he

entered High

> School. I have learned that for some reason or other it has been

easier for

> me to read kids' lips. Also kids are more open minded than adults,

that is

> shameful to say but true, they accept a person being " different " a

lot

> sooner. At least that has been my experience. They also learn

easier

> right?? So you teach them the alphabet in sign language and you

have the

> communication barrier taken care of. :o)

>

> Donna

>

> In a message dated 10/6/2002 9:53:58 PM Central Daylight Time,

> cinnyd@t... writes:

>

>

> > Nate, this is why I like the idea of teaching, i am volunteering

in a

> > 2nd/3rd

> > grade class 1 day a week now and you r right when you say you are

in

> > control

> > of communivcation, thats what makes it fairly easy for me, i

havecontrol,

> > or

> > am suppose to! :-) was thinking teaching might, just might, maybe

not, be

> > hard for jeff if he is just going deaf, some people need a year or

so to

> > grieve and learn to deal with it. however getting right out there

is the

> > surest way to learn to adjust.

> >

> > and Christi Waldrip wrote:

> >

> > > --- Marie Drew <mcdrew@n...> wrote:

> > > > Nate, you're on!

> > >

> > > Jeff,

> > >

> > > I am in my 7th year as a math teacher/coach (football,

> > > basketball, and track). I am 100% deaf, and have been

> > > my entire teaching career.

> > >

> > > I worried about the same things, but just figured I

> > > would handle it once the time came, and that is pretty

> > > much what I've done. Do kids take advantage or make

> > > fun of me? Sure. I make fun of them right back,

> > > haha.

> > >

> > > Seriously, you have been teaching already, so you know

> > > the things kids pull. You already know what to look

> > > for. But basically, in my experience, 90% of the kids

> > > are good kids. The other 10% or so that WILL try to

> > > take advantage can be dealt with, plus- they aren't

> > > worth ignoring the good kids over.

> > >

> > > I teach math, which is fairly easy to catch kids

> > > cheating. Since it is a logical, step-by-step

> > > process, if a kid's work does not lead to his answer,

> > > you know he cheated. I also give out alternate exams.

> > > And I mean, I make out AT LEAST three, sometimes as

> > > many as 5-6 DIFFERENT quizzes or exams, and mix them

> > > all up. If a kid copies, he's copying the wrong

> > > answer. In fact, I just caught a kid cheating that

> > > way not two weeks ago.

> > >

> > > But as the teacher, YOU ARE IN CONTROL of

> > > communication. This helps immensely.

> > >

> > > You will get kids who try to cuss in class. When you

> > > find out, and you will, handle it SEVERELY. I had a

> > > kid in class earlier this year tell me to " shut the

> > > fuck up. " He did this while I wasn't looking at him.

> > > Another kid itold me about it later that day (foster

> > > your relationships with the tattletales! haha) I

> > > wrote him a referral for Gross Insubordination. He

> > > got slapped with a week of Off-Campus Suspension.

> > >

> > > I have my share of problems, but no more than any

> > > other teacher. Like I tell my kids- I know the

> > > students make fun of me- the way I walk, my being

> > > deaf, etc. But IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME. ALL kids make

> > > fun of their teachers. It's what kids do. And being

> > > deaf and walking like I do makes me an easy target.

> > > The trick is to laugh at yourself. Let them laugh

> > > with you, not at you, to use a corny phrase.

> > >

> > > Trust me, you find ways to keep them from taking

> > > advantage of you. Make sure you work in a district

> > > with good kids. I worked in a district with TERRIBLE,

> > > ROTTEN LITTLE ********s before moving to s, and

> > > I hated it. But here, the kids are great, the

> > > administration is supportive, etc.

> > >

> > > If you like teaching, THERE IS NO REASON TO ABANDON IT

> > > JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DEAF.

> > >

> > > If I can answer any other questions, give me a holler.

> > >

> > > Nate

> >

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