local anaesthetics/acupuncture? NEW (to me) DENTAL ANESTHESIA, GREAT INFO!

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In a message dated 3/19/2004 10:18:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mike@... writes:

My family definitely has problems with local anaesthetics, topical

or injection.. Has anyone tried acupuncture for pain relief? Hmm,

maybe the next thing I need to learn to do .... Right now " grin and

bare it " is our method.

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Hi All

I used the " grin & bare it " method as well for a long, long time. But I've

had a HUGE amount of dental work & my dentist is a personal friend & I really

think he used to be more uspet than me, if possible. He tried everything!!!

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After over 25 years of torture, he got this stuff that a lot of offices don't

usually use, as he told me that it costs him 1 1/2 times the amount of any of

the other types of local anesthesia.

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I actually took the outside box, so I'd have all of the info to post.

It is called " Septocaine " And on the box, it says this:

Articane hydrochloride 4% with Epinephrine 1:100,000 Injection.

#50 cartridges come in the box, it says minimum contents of each: 1.7 ml.

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It is Distributed by: SEPTODONT, Inc.

245 Quigly Boulevard - Suite C

New Castle, Delaware 19720

(Product of France)

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The NDC # is 12862-1050-2

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Don't be surprised if you just ask for it by name, if they tell you they

can't get it or don't use it or whatever. They can get it. They just don't

want

to because it's more expensive. But that's poppy cock & that's not the words

I wanted to use, but as they say, " This is daytime television " and it's " NOT

cable " .

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So, with all of that info, there is no way on this earth they can say they

can't get it or find it or anything & if they do, tell them to stick their heads

in the toilet & you flush 10 times.

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I have been through years of hell & I believe he is even happier than me,

that he got it. I've acutually seen a tear or 2 in his eyes, over the years & I

finally had to beg him to stop saying, " I'm sorry " , when he knew he was

killing me. We tried everything, every type of anesthetic, even coming in an

hour

early & injecting every 15 min. or so before he did anything. I have not had

one single problem since we started this. I only hope it helps you guys too.

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But remember, it is more expensive, but I'm sure it won't break their bank

accounts. Dental care is more expensive than I can believe. I was a dental

assistant before I went to nursing school. So don't let them give you a hard

time about the fact that it cost more. Again, if you have a problem, go back to

the toilet flushing method.

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I'd love to hear that someone else used it & had good results too.

Luv Y'all,

[Guest guest]

It is called " Septocaine " ....Don't be surprised if you just ask

for it by name, if they tell you they can't get it or don't use it

or whatever. They can get it. They just don't want to because it's

more expensive.

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I may be extra dense this morning or not getting something, but when

has extra expense (that they are going to pass along to the patient

anyway) ever stopped any health care provider, in any discipline?

Since they probably bill on some kind of cost plus percentage basis,

they would probably make more net and be eager to do it.

Sorry, my cynical, business, other side of the brain, background

wants some equal time again for a change. It has been feeling kind

of left out since I retired.

[Guest guest]

It is called " Septocaine " ....Don't be surprised if you just ask

for it by name, if they tell you they can't get it or don't use it

or whatever. They can get it. They just don't want to because it's

more expensive.

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I may be extra dense this morning or not getting something, but when

has extra expense (that they are going to pass along to the patient

anyway) ever stopped any health care provider, in any discipline?

Since they probably bill on some kind of cost plus percentage basis,

they would probably make more net and be eager to do it.

Sorry, my cynical, business, other side of the brain, background

wants some equal time again for a change. It has been feeling kind

of left out since I retired.

[Guest guest]

It is called " Septocaine " ....Don't be surprised if you just ask

for it by name, if they tell you they can't get it or don't use it

or whatever. They can get it. They just don't want to because it's

more expensive.

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I may be extra dense this morning or not getting something, but when

has extra expense (that they are going to pass along to the patient

anyway) ever stopped any health care provider, in any discipline?

Since they probably bill on some kind of cost plus percentage basis,

they would probably make more net and be eager to do it.

Sorry, my cynical, business, other side of the brain, background

wants some equal time again for a change. It has been feeling kind

of left out since I retired.

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It's probably the cost cutting HMO mentality - don't get me started

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>

> I may be extra dense this morning or not getting something, but

when

> has extra expense (that they are going to pass along to the patient

> anyway) ever stopped any health care provider, in any discipline?

> Since they probably bill on some kind of cost plus percentage

basis,

> they would probably make more net and be eager to do it.

>

> Sorry, my cynical, business, other side of the brain, background

> wants some equal time again for a change. It has been feeling kind

> of left out since I retired.

[Guest guest]

It's probably the cost cutting HMO mentality - don't get me started

> -----------------

>

> I may be extra dense this morning or not getting something, but

when

> has extra expense (that they are going to pass along to the patient

> anyway) ever stopped any health care provider, in any discipline?

> Since they probably bill on some kind of cost plus percentage

basis,

> they would probably make more net and be eager to do it.

>

> Sorry, my cynical, business, other side of the brain, background

> wants some equal time again for a change. It has been feeling kind

> of left out since I retired.

[Guest guest]

It's probably the cost cutting HMO mentality - don't get me started

> -----------------

>

> I may be extra dense this morning or not getting something, but

when

> has extra expense (that they are going to pass along to the patient

> anyway) ever stopped any health care provider, in any discipline?

> Since they probably bill on some kind of cost plus percentage

basis,

> they would probably make more net and be eager to do it.

>

> Sorry, my cynical, business, other side of the brain, background

> wants some equal time again for a change. It has been feeling kind

> of left out since I retired.

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It's probably the cost cutting HMO mentality - don't get me started

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Why not? That's part of the Venting Service the Board provides to

its members. But I agree with you completely if an HMO is involved.