Re: Bad news ... back to base one Re: Bill

[Guest guest]

Caro, you are up late worrying still. What does the SW think you are going

todo aboutthe burial/cremation if you don't use what you have. It seems like

there have to be something available. Think of all the peoplle who die in

similar

or worse circumstances. Something has to be available. Are you totally again

cremation? Did bill have any expressed views? You can still have a little

service for him even with the cremation. Maybe it really is an area to think

about. Go get some sleep... my eyes are closing!

[Guest guest]

Caro, you are up late worrying still. What does the SW think you are going

todo aboutthe burial/cremation if you don't use what you have. It seems like

there have to be something available. Think of all the peoplle who die in

similar

or worse circumstances. Something has to be available. Are you totally again

cremation? Did bill have any expressed views? You can still have a little

service for him even with the cremation. Maybe it really is an area to think

about. Go get some sleep... my eyes are closing!

[Guest guest]

Caro, you are up late worrying still. What does the SW think you are going

todo aboutthe burial/cremation if you don't use what you have. It seems like

there have to be something available. Think of all the peoplle who die in

similar

or worse circumstances. Something has to be available. Are you totally again

cremation? Did bill have any expressed views? You can still have a little

service for him even with the cremation. Maybe it really is an area to think

about. Go get some sleep... my eyes are closing!

[Guest guest]

Caro, contact the Veteran's Administration Office and let them know what's

happening, and just ask if there is anything they can do to help. OK? I'm

sorry for you - what a mess! Hang tough, I know you can! And, Vent

ANYTIME!

Love Lana

They are worried about me. Maybe I should cremate, get the urn and forget.

That is one of the options. Sorry for vent I no longer have someone to talk

to.

Caro

[Guest guest]

Hi Caro,

I am so sorry to hear that you have all these worries now. It is

awful that you have to worry about these things in the middle of all

that you are dealing with. I wish I knew something about the US

system, but I don't know anything about that at all. It would be

different if it was here in Norway, this system I know very well as I

work as a social worker here... Here everybody get a flat funeral

support from social security. It is not much, $580, but if you have a

low income you can apply for an additional $1160. Those two together

is enough to pay for a simple, but decent, funeral. Before this last

support came from the soc. sec. system, people with low incomes got

help from the welfare system to pay for funerals, as a last resort.

Can you apply for that in the US if you have no other ways of

figuring out? The social worker should know... That would be so much

more right than you having to use your rent money for that.

I think it is really important that you are able to do what feels

right for you, whatever that is. I really believe that having some

kind of ceremony, what ever is right for you, can be a good part of

the grieving process. Especially since you weren't able to be much

with Bill at the hospital, I think it is important that you get some

way to say good bye to your husband. And some kind of ceremony can be

such a good way of doing just that, it is sort of a start in the

grieving process that we all have to go through when we lose somebody

dear to us. And there are so many ways of doing that, which way you

do it does not matter, as long as it feels right for you. Some even

choose to have a moment together with family and friends e.g. at a

place the deceased loved, making a ceremony of it that feels right

and feels as if it is a good way of saying good bye.

I can really understand that you feel like using your rent money to

do the funeral. I really can. But at the same time it is important

that you won't, on top of everything else, find yourself without a

roof over your head. That is probably the reason why the SW is so

against it. Could you talk to your landlord and explain your

situation? He might just have sympathy for your situation and be able

to offer you a way of paying the rent for this month over a period of

time, so that you can use the rent money right now on giving your

husband the funeral you feel is right?

If there is no " last resort " help for you to get in such a situation,

it is really insane. It is awful that you have these worries in the

middle of the grief over your dear husband... Seems like you are

falling between chairs here, because Bills Mediaid wasn't finalized.

It is just so sad!!!

I really hope that something works out for you....

hugs,

Aase Marit

>Hi all,

>

>Today's social worker gave me false hope. There are no burial benefits

>because Bill died finalizing the Medicaid. Now they said

>his death is after

>the fact??. SSD will take months and months and only be for one month unless

>retroactive.

>

>IMHO I want to use my RENT money to do the funereal. The SW was TOTALLY

>against this. Why? I am alive and can scrape up something. I would

>rather a tiny

>funeral than pay rent. You would think the landlord could have some sympathy.

>But perhaps SS will not help with the rent unless I pay my last penny -- for

>this month that is.

>

>They are worried about me. Maybe I should cremate, get the urn and forget.

>That is one of the options. Sorry for vent I no longer have someone

>to talk to.

>Caro

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Caro,

I am so sorry to hear that you have all these worries now. It is

awful that you have to worry about these things in the middle of all

that you are dealing with. I wish I knew something about the US

system, but I don't know anything about that at all. It would be

different if it was here in Norway, this system I know very well as I

work as a social worker here... Here everybody get a flat funeral

support from social security. It is not much, $580, but if you have a

low income you can apply for an additional $1160. Those two together

is enough to pay for a simple, but decent, funeral. Before this last

support came from the soc. sec. system, people with low incomes got

help from the welfare system to pay for funerals, as a last resort.

Can you apply for that in the US if you have no other ways of

figuring out? The social worker should know... That would be so much

more right than you having to use your rent money for that.

I think it is really important that you are able to do what feels

right for you, whatever that is. I really believe that having some

kind of ceremony, what ever is right for you, can be a good part of

the grieving process. Especially since you weren't able to be much

with Bill at the hospital, I think it is important that you get some

way to say good bye to your husband. And some kind of ceremony can be

such a good way of doing just that, it is sort of a start in the

grieving process that we all have to go through when we lose somebody

dear to us. And there are so many ways of doing that, which way you

do it does not matter, as long as it feels right for you. Some even

choose to have a moment together with family and friends e.g. at a

place the deceased loved, making a ceremony of it that feels right

and feels as if it is a good way of saying good bye.

I can really understand that you feel like using your rent money to

do the funeral. I really can. But at the same time it is important

that you won't, on top of everything else, find yourself without a

roof over your head. That is probably the reason why the SW is so

against it. Could you talk to your landlord and explain your

situation? He might just have sympathy for your situation and be able

to offer you a way of paying the rent for this month over a period of

time, so that you can use the rent money right now on giving your

husband the funeral you feel is right?

If there is no " last resort " help for you to get in such a situation,

it is really insane. It is awful that you have these worries in the

middle of the grief over your dear husband... Seems like you are

falling between chairs here, because Bills Mediaid wasn't finalized.

It is just so sad!!!

I really hope that something works out for you....

hugs,

Aase Marit

>Hi all,

>

>Today's social worker gave me false hope. There are no burial benefits

>because Bill died finalizing the Medicaid. Now they said

>his death is after

>the fact??. SSD will take months and months and only be for one month unless

>retroactive.

>

>IMHO I want to use my RENT money to do the funereal. The SW was TOTALLY

>against this. Why? I am alive and can scrape up something. I would

>rather a tiny

>funeral than pay rent. You would think the landlord could have some sympathy.

>But perhaps SS will not help with the rent unless I pay my last penny -- for

>this month that is.

>

>They are worried about me. Maybe I should cremate, get the urn and forget.

>That is one of the options. Sorry for vent I no longer have someone

>to talk to.

>Caro

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Caro,

I am so sorry to hear that you have all these worries now. It is

awful that you have to worry about these things in the middle of all

that you are dealing with. I wish I knew something about the US

system, but I don't know anything about that at all. It would be

different if it was here in Norway, this system I know very well as I

work as a social worker here... Here everybody get a flat funeral

support from social security. It is not much, $580, but if you have a

low income you can apply for an additional $1160. Those two together

is enough to pay for a simple, but decent, funeral. Before this last

support came from the soc. sec. system, people with low incomes got

help from the welfare system to pay for funerals, as a last resort.

Can you apply for that in the US if you have no other ways of

figuring out? The social worker should know... That would be so much

more right than you having to use your rent money for that.

I think it is really important that you are able to do what feels

right for you, whatever that is. I really believe that having some

kind of ceremony, what ever is right for you, can be a good part of

the grieving process. Especially since you weren't able to be much

with Bill at the hospital, I think it is important that you get some

way to say good bye to your husband. And some kind of ceremony can be

such a good way of doing just that, it is sort of a start in the

grieving process that we all have to go through when we lose somebody

dear to us. And there are so many ways of doing that, which way you

do it does not matter, as long as it feels right for you. Some even

choose to have a moment together with family and friends e.g. at a

place the deceased loved, making a ceremony of it that feels right

and feels as if it is a good way of saying good bye.

I can really understand that you feel like using your rent money to

do the funeral. I really can. But at the same time it is important

that you won't, on top of everything else, find yourself without a

roof over your head. That is probably the reason why the SW is so

against it. Could you talk to your landlord and explain your

situation? He might just have sympathy for your situation and be able

to offer you a way of paying the rent for this month over a period of

time, so that you can use the rent money right now on giving your

husband the funeral you feel is right?

If there is no " last resort " help for you to get in such a situation,

it is really insane. It is awful that you have these worries in the

middle of the grief over your dear husband... Seems like you are

falling between chairs here, because Bills Mediaid wasn't finalized.

It is just so sad!!!

I really hope that something works out for you....

hugs,

Aase Marit

>Hi all,

>

>Today's social worker gave me false hope. There are no burial benefits

>because Bill died finalizing the Medicaid. Now they said

>his death is after

>the fact??. SSD will take months and months and only be for one month unless

>retroactive.

>

>IMHO I want to use my RENT money to do the funereal. The SW was TOTALLY

>against this. Why? I am alive and can scrape up something. I would

>rather a tiny

>funeral than pay rent. You would think the landlord could have some sympathy.

>But perhaps SS will not help with the rent unless I pay my last penny -- for

>this month that is.

>

>They are worried about me. Maybe I should cremate, get the urn and forget.

>That is one of the options. Sorry for vent I no longer have someone

>to talk to.

>Caro

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/8/2004 9:53:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, EDSLana@...

writes:

> Veteran's Administration Office

Good. I will try that. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Hating to admit, but am one that has had to go on welfare to be able to " almost

" paying off my bills since I had the first surgery myself-

Only reason I hate to admit, is not of embarrassment- but of how some people

think of you for being on it , well - sometimes- its the only way one can go-

and I've been on it for two years- and after reading what Aase wrote here, it

reminded me......

If you are on some type of welfare help....... then yes- there is help available

in emergency situations- here ,,, there is anyhow- Im in Michigan......

When and if the bills get way out of hand- utilities and such- you can ask for

an emergency relief form and all you have to do is show them your bills for the

last six months- which is easy to get now a days- ( computerized ) - and you

can get instant reliefe......

If you do not have welfare- and are not getting any SSI or anything, would be

wise to apply for this help until you can get SSI........ They also go back (

medical bills ) for three months from the date you apply............ Thank God

for that, as it hit mine for first surgery then even............ Mine came to

well over 130 thous and they picked it all up...........

They may even have unexpected funeral help? Am not sure...... I don't want to

carry on with too much information on this if it wouldn't be helpful.........

1. I have no idea- actually, where you reside

2. I have no idea- how you are living financially.

So- if you need any more information on this subject and do live in the states-

perhaps I can help you out with a small amout of what I have learned- would be

glad to help if I can ( with information )- would even be willing to research it

for you - sometimes everything is right at the tips of our fingers- ( the net )

Hugs and Love- TJ

God Bless And Hugs- Love Moon

Re: Bad news ... back to base one Re: Bill

Hi Caro,

I am so sorry to hear that you have all these worries now. It is

awful that you have to worry about these things in the middle of all

that you are dealing with. I wish I knew something about the US

system, but I don't know anything about that at all. It would be

different if it was here in Norway, this system I know very well as I

work as a social worker here... Here everybody get a flat funeral

support from social security. It is not much, $580, but if you have a

low income you can apply for an additional $1160. Those two together

is enough to pay for a simple, but decent, funeral. Before this last

support came from the soc. sec. system, people with low incomes got

help from the welfare system to pay for funerals, as a last resort.

Can you apply for that in the US if you have no other ways of

figuring out? The social worker should know... That would be so much

more right than you having to use your rent money for that.

I think it is really important that you are able to do what feels

right for you, whatever that is. I really believe that having some

kind of ceremony, what ever is right for you, can be a good part of

the grieving process. Especially since you weren't able to be much

with Bill at the hospital, I think it is important that you get some

way to say good bye to your husband. And some kind of ceremony can be

such a good way of doing just that, it is sort of a start in the

grieving process that we all have to go through when we lose somebody

dear to us. And there are so many ways of doing that, which way you

do it does not matter, as long as it feels right for you. Some even

choose to have a moment together with family and friends e.g. at a

place the deceased loved, making a ceremony of it that feels right

and feels as if it is a good way of saying good bye.

I can really understand that you feel like using your rent money to

do the funeral. I really can. But at the same time it is important

that you won't, on top of everything else, find yourself without a

roof over your head. That is probably the reason why the SW is so

against it. Could you talk to your landlord and explain your

situation? He might just have sympathy for your situation and be able

to offer you a way of paying the rent for this month over a period of

time, so that you can use the rent money right now on giving your

husband the funeral you feel is right?

If there is no " last resort " help for you to get in such a situation,

it is really insane. It is awful that you have these worries in the

middle of the grief over your dear husband... Seems like you are

falling between chairs here, because Bills Mediaid wasn't finalized.

It is just so sad!!!

I really hope that something works out for you....

hugs,

Aase Marit

>Hi all,

>

>Today's social worker gave me false hope. There are no burial benefits

>because Bill died finalizing the Medicaid. Now they said

>his death is after

>the fact??. SSD will take months and months and only be for one month unless

>retroactive.

>

>IMHO I want to use my RENT money to do the funereal. The SW was TOTALLY

>against this. Why? I am alive and can scrape up something. I would

>rather a tiny

>funeral than pay rent. You would think the landlord could have some sympathy.

>But perhaps SS will not help with the rent unless I pay my last penny -- for

>this month that is.

>

>They are worried about me. Maybe I should cremate, get the urn and forget.

>That is one of the options. Sorry for vent I no longer have someone

>to talk to.

>Caro

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hating to admit, but am one that has had to go on welfare to be able to " almost

" paying off my bills since I had the first surgery myself-

Only reason I hate to admit, is not of embarrassment- but of how some people

think of you for being on it , well - sometimes- its the only way one can go-

and I've been on it for two years- and after reading what Aase wrote here, it

reminded me......

If you are on some type of welfare help....... then yes- there is help available

in emergency situations- here ,,, there is anyhow- Im in Michigan......

When and if the bills get way out of hand- utilities and such- you can ask for

an emergency relief form and all you have to do is show them your bills for the

last six months- which is easy to get now a days- ( computerized ) - and you

can get instant reliefe......

If you do not have welfare- and are not getting any SSI or anything, would be

wise to apply for this help until you can get SSI........ They also go back (

medical bills ) for three months from the date you apply............ Thank God

for that, as it hit mine for first surgery then even............ Mine came to

well over 130 thous and they picked it all up...........

They may even have unexpected funeral help? Am not sure...... I don't want to

carry on with too much information on this if it wouldn't be helpful.........

1. I have no idea- actually, where you reside

2. I have no idea- how you are living financially.

So- if you need any more information on this subject and do live in the states-

perhaps I can help you out with a small amout of what I have learned- would be

glad to help if I can ( with information )- would even be willing to research it

for you - sometimes everything is right at the tips of our fingers- ( the net )

Hugs and Love- TJ

God Bless And Hugs- Love Moon

Re: Bad news ... back to base one Re: Bill

Hi Caro,

I am so sorry to hear that you have all these worries now. It is

awful that you have to worry about these things in the middle of all

that you are dealing with. I wish I knew something about the US

system, but I don't know anything about that at all. It would be

different if it was here in Norway, this system I know very well as I

work as a social worker here... Here everybody get a flat funeral

support from social security. It is not much, $580, but if you have a

low income you can apply for an additional $1160. Those two together

is enough to pay for a simple, but decent, funeral. Before this last

support came from the soc. sec. system, people with low incomes got

help from the welfare system to pay for funerals, as a last resort.

Can you apply for that in the US if you have no other ways of

figuring out? The social worker should know... That would be so much

more right than you having to use your rent money for that.

I think it is really important that you are able to do what feels

right for you, whatever that is. I really believe that having some

kind of ceremony, what ever is right for you, can be a good part of

the grieving process. Especially since you weren't able to be much

with Bill at the hospital, I think it is important that you get some

way to say good bye to your husband. And some kind of ceremony can be

such a good way of doing just that, it is sort of a start in the

grieving process that we all have to go through when we lose somebody

dear to us. And there are so many ways of doing that, which way you

do it does not matter, as long as it feels right for you. Some even

choose to have a moment together with family and friends e.g. at a

place the deceased loved, making a ceremony of it that feels right

and feels as if it is a good way of saying good bye.

I can really understand that you feel like using your rent money to

do the funeral. I really can. But at the same time it is important

that you won't, on top of everything else, find yourself without a

roof over your head. That is probably the reason why the SW is so

against it. Could you talk to your landlord and explain your

situation? He might just have sympathy for your situation and be able

to offer you a way of paying the rent for this month over a period of

time, so that you can use the rent money right now on giving your

husband the funeral you feel is right?

If there is no " last resort " help for you to get in such a situation,

it is really insane. It is awful that you have these worries in the

middle of the grief over your dear husband... Seems like you are

falling between chairs here, because Bills Mediaid wasn't finalized.

It is just so sad!!!

I really hope that something works out for you....

hugs,

Aase Marit

>Hi all,

>

>Today's social worker gave me false hope. There are no burial benefits

>because Bill died finalizing the Medicaid. Now they said

>his death is after

>the fact??. SSD will take months and months and only be for one month unless

>retroactive.

>

>IMHO I want to use my RENT money to do the funereal. The SW was TOTALLY

>against this. Why? I am alive and can scrape up something. I would

>rather a tiny

>funeral than pay rent. You would think the landlord could have some sympathy.

>But perhaps SS will not help with the rent unless I pay my last penny -- for

>this month that is.

>

>They are worried about me. Maybe I should cremate, get the urn and forget.

>That is one of the options. Sorry for vent I no longer have someone

>to talk to.

>Caro

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're welcome, Caro. I hope it gets you somewhere!

Re: Bad news ... back to base one Re: Bill

In a message dated 4/8/2004 9:53:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

EDSLana@...

writes:

> Veteran's Administration Office

Good. I will try that. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

You're welcome, Caro. I hope it gets you somewhere!

Re: Bad news ... back to base one Re: Bill

In a message dated 4/8/2004 9:53:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

EDSLana@...

writes:

> Veteran's Administration Office

Good. I will try that. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Dear Caro,

Aren't you eligible for Survivor benefits under Bill? Go see this page:

http://www.ssa.gov/ww&os2.htm

It says if you are a widow/widower and disabled you can receive benefits as

early as age 50. I think this might be the way for you to get some

benefits......

Hugs,

Sue