OT: Buying a New Car

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We are getting ready to buy a new car, and I have a few concerns maybe someone

can share thoughts on. In an article/interview with , he went on to

explain how all new cars have plastics that are treated with mercury in them.

Explaining that when it get's hot, the mercury out gasses causing a fog film

type. I have a 10 yr old car, and definitely over the years have experienced a

horrible case of this film so I really am concerned. However if it's in all the

cars, does this mean it's virtually unavoidable? Or are their any models,

options that might make things more or less worse? My daughter was this super

easy going baby, but ironically the only place she ever cried (and screamed like

being tortured) was in my car. I believe now it had something to do with her

being sensitive to things and something in it was setting her off. The things

we learn...

Also wondering if there are any comments on leather versus clothe? My

daughter's sensitivity issues are now getting better with treatment, but would

think one might be better for her than the other. On one hand I could see

clothe being worse because it would seem like pollen could get trapped in it

easier, but I don't know if leather is treated with chemicals that she might

react to?

Thanks,

Kari

[Guest guest]

Hi Kari-- I had no idea that the plastics might have mercury in

them... we just got a new car this past summer and the off-gassing

was really bad. I do think it adversely affected Ethan. That and a

few other things put his body in overload this summer and we had some

real problems by the end of summer that I had to deal with. In

hindsight, we should have left the windows of the car open whenever

we parked it in the garage...once we started doing that, the

offgassing problem was better. I think it was offgassing, especially

in the summer heat, and the gases had nowhere to go. By letting it

out every day, then it seemed to go faster.

We opted for cloth because we find it more comfortable, and the

leather seemed to have a bad smell to it, and we were told that you

do have to " maintain " leather every year or so with treatments, and

so I figured that would be more chemicals he would be exposed to. If

you decided to go with leather, then you might just want to skip

those treatments, or try to find a non-toxic alternative.

W

> We are getting ready to buy a new car, and I have a few concerns

maybe someone can share thoughts on.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I am feeling the right thing to do is not go for leather, besides it's more and

we had leather in the car I believe has caused problems. Below is the

article/interview I was referring to, and you are correct in that keeping the

windows open might help. But know " knowing " about this, I just wonder if we

keep the car cool if it would help the outgassing? Since it appears to be in

all new cars, and my old car I am certain had problems too, I don't think there

is anyway around it. But know we know to look for that fog that always bugged

me...

Is a pretty credible person dedicated to this cause?

Thanks,

Kari

http://www.acresusa.com/magazines/archives/1103.htm

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Hi Kari-- I had no idea that the plastics might have mercury in

them... we just got a new car this past summer and the off-gassing

was really bad. I do think it adversely affected Ethan. That and a

few other things put his body in overload this summer and we had some

real problems by the end of summer that I had to deal with. In

hindsight, we should have left the windows of the car open whenever

we parked it in the garage...once we started doing that, the

offgassing problem was better. I think it was offgassing, especially

in the summer heat, and the gases had nowhere to go. By letting it

out every day, then it seemed to go faster.

We opted for cloth because we find it more comfortable, and the

leather seemed to have a bad smell to it, and we were told that you

do have to " maintain " leather every year or so with treatments, and

so I figured that would be more chemicals he would be exposed to. If

you decided to go with leather, then you might just want to skip

those treatments, or try to find a non-toxic alternative.

W

> We are getting ready to buy a new car, and I have a few concerns

maybe someone can share thoughts on.

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[Guest guest]

Some leather is treated with arsenic...

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Hi ,<BR>

I am feeling the right thing to do is not go for leather, besides it's more and

we had leather in the car I believe has caused problems.  Below is the

article/interview I was referring to, and you are correct in that keeping the

windows open might help.  But know " knowing " about this, I just wonder if we

keep the car cool if it would help the outgassing?  Since it appears to be in

all new cars, and my old car I am certain had problems too, I don't think there

is anyway around it.  But know we know to look for that fog that always bugged

me...<BR>

Is a pretty credible person dedicated to this cause?<BR>

Thanks,<BR>

Kari<BR>

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  Hi Kari-- I had no idea that the plastics might have mercury in <BR>

  them...  we just got a new car this past summer and the off-gassing <BR>

  was really bad.  I do think it adversely affected Ethan.  That and a <BR>

  few other things put his body in overload this summer and we had some <BR>

  real problems by the end of summer that I had to deal with.  In <BR>

  hindsight, we should have left the windows of the car open whenever <BR>

  we parked it in the garage...once we started doing that, the <BR>

  offgassing problem was better.  I think it was offgassing, especially <BR>

  in the summer heat, and the gases had nowhere to go.  By letting it <BR>

  out every day, then it seemed to go faster.  <BR>

<BR>

  We opted for cloth because we find it more comfortable, and the <BR>

  leather seemed to have a bad smell to it, and we were told that you <BR>

  do have to " maintain " leather every year or so with treatments, and <BR>

  so I figured that would be more chemicals he would be exposed to.  If <BR>

  you decided to go with leather, then you might just want to skip <BR>

  those treatments, or try to find a non-toxic alternative.  <BR>

<BR>

  W<BR>

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  > We are getting ready to buy a new car, and I have a few concerns <BR>

  maybe someone can share thoughts on.  <BR>

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[Guest guest]

My current car was pre-owned but newer than any other I've ever had. My hands

broke out along where I held the steering wheel. I later found out that the car

had been in an accident when the previous owner had it, so I suspect that the

airbag deployed and that whatever chemical they have in the airbag remained on

the steering wheel. (Possibly arsenic as flame retardant?) The smell from the

heat in this car still bothers me, so I don't keep it on for very long. Not

sure what's causing that.

S

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Hi Kari-- I had no idea that the plastics might have mercury in <BR>

them...  we just got a new car this past summer and the off-gassing <BR>

was really bad.  I do think it adversely affected Ethan.  That and a <BR>

few other things put his body in overload this summer and we had some <BR>

real problems by the end of summer that I had to deal with.  In <BR>

hindsight, we should have left the windows of the car open whenever <BR>

we parked it in the garage...once we started doing that, the <BR>

offgassing problem was better.  I think it was offgassing, especially <BR>

in the summer heat, and the gases had nowhere to go.  By letting it <BR>

out every day, then it seemed to go faster.  <BR>

<BR>

We opted for cloth because we find it more comfortable, and the <BR>

leather seemed to have a bad smell to it, and we were told that you <BR>

do have to " maintain " leather every year or so with treatments, and <BR>

so I figured that would be more chemicals he would be exposed to.  If <BR>

you decided to go with leather, then you might just want to skip <BR>

those treatments, or try to find a non-toxic alternative.  <BR>

<BR>

W<BR>

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> We are getting ready to buy a new car, and I have a few concerns <BR>

maybe someone can share thoughts on.  <BR>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kari,

I have heard of the mercury in the cars myself. I beleive all cars

even new ones have that problem. There are ozone type air cleaners

that work in cars to help with it. I don't have any name brands to

tell you. What I do know is to stay away from any vehicle with the

electric window buttons. There have been problems with kids standing

on the armrest hanging out the windows and triggering the window to

close strangling them, or injuring arms etc. So I would take a look

at that also. Just see if a kid could like stand or trigger the

window in a way if they were out of their seat crawling or playing

etc. Gayle

[Guest guest]

I don't know anything about the specific problem of mercury in vehicles (and

of course now I have something else to be alarmed about), but I DO have a

good air purifier and any time we have something in the house that off gases

something toxic (like new furniture), I put the purifier right by it for a

day or two and it helps eliminate the odor. I also put the purifier on my

bare mattresses while I am laundering any bedding and since the purifier is

supposed to kill mold, I figure it might help w/any arsenic or antimony that

is being created by active mold problems. The brand I purchased also makes

a special " car " one that is little and portable. ly, I figure the one

big one is enough. It is supposed to be able to treat a 3000sf house by

itself, but I found I got better results when I rotated it from room to room

occasionally and treated specific " problem " areas (like new furniture or

bedding, or cooking odors, or closets, or something). You could easily stick

it inside your car overnight for a couple of nights (and in fact the

promotional videos I viewed recommend such a thing on a regular basis). The

product is www.airsource.com <http://www.airsource.com/> . I purchased it

through a representative who was very helpful providing information; if

anyone wants her contact info, let me know off line and I will be happy to

provide it.

Josie

Re: OT: Buying a New Car

Hi Kari,

I have heard of the mercury in the cars myself. I beleive all cars

even new ones have that problem. There are ozone type air cleaners

that work in cars to help with it. I don't have any name brands to

tell you. What I do know is to stay away from any vehicle with the

electric window buttons. There have been problems with kids standing

on the armrest hanging out the windows and triggering the window to

close strangling them, or injuring arms etc. So I would take a look

at that also. Just see if a kid could like stand or trigger the

window in a way if they were out of their seat crawling or playing

etc. Gayle