Re: Dr. Morrow Fights Ban on Thimerosal, a Proven Neurotoxin

August 6, 2004

In recently uncovered data from the CDC sponsored study on

thimerosal and autism (from 1999), children listed on the

Vaccine Safety Datalink exposed to specific levels of

thimerosal in their infant vaccinations were up to 11 times

more likely to be diagnosed with autism. This result was

deemed statistically significant using a 95% confidence

interval test.

The CDC then took steps to dilute causation data by rather

blatant statistical olympics including unnecessary

stratifications of cohort sets. Publications by Dr. Mark

Geier and Geier using the VAERS database support the

CDC's earliest finds.

This simply is not true. Geier and Geier's work concluded the following:

http://www.chicagoparent.com/columns11.htm

Geier and Geier analyzed government vaccine data and found that a child

receiving injectable mercury during vaccinations is 26 times more likely to

become autistic than a child who receives mercury-free shots. They also note

that the symptoms of mercury poisoning are the same as the symptoms of autism.

http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=362 & i=2208

WASHINGTON, Feb. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, the Institute of Medicine will hold

a one-day meeting to review important new research on the link between

thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative in vaccines, and neurodevelopmental

disorders such as autism. One of the larger studies under review comes from the

CDC's own Vaccine Safety Datalink. Under independent investigation, CDC's data

concludes children are 27-times more likely to develop autism after exposure to

three thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs), than those who receive

thimerosal-free versions.

August 6, 2004

,

In a hurried post, had written " Publications by Dr. Mark Geier and

Geier using the VAERS database support the CDC's earliest finds. "

You wrote that " This simply is not true. "

I would like to offer a middle ground. On the simplest level, Geiers'

findings are consistent with the CDC's 1999 findings. In other words,

there is a strong positive association between autism and thimerosal

injections. Of course, the Geiers' findings *strengthen* the

association. Regardless, I believe that did not assert that the

Geiers' findings were identical to the CDC's 1999 findings and that

's summary of the Geiers' findings " Publications by Dr. Mark Geier

and Geier using the VAERS database support the CDC's earliest

finds. " is technically and linguistically accurate.

By the way, thnx for the two urls and quotes therefrom.

Block had written:

> In recently uncovered data from the CDC sponsored study on

> thimerosal and autism (from 1999), children listed on the

> Vaccine Safety Datalink exposed to specific levels of

> thimerosal in their infant vaccinations were up to 11 times

> more likely to be diagnosed with autism. This result was

> deemed statistically significant using a 95% confidence

> interval test.

>

> The CDC then took steps to dilute causation data by rather

> blatant statistical olympics including unnecessary

> stratifications of cohort sets. Publications by Dr. Mark

> Geier and Geier using the VAERS database support the

> CDC's earliest finds.

>

> This simply is not true. Geier and Geier's work concluded the following:

>

> http://www.chicagoparent.com/columns11.htm

>

> Geier and Geier analyzed government vaccine data and found that a child

receiving injectable mercury during vaccinations is 26 times more likely to

become autistic than a child who receives mercury-free shots. They also note

that the symptoms of mercury poisoning are the same as the symptoms of autism.

>

> http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=362 & i=2208

>

> WASHINGTON, Feb. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, the Institute of Medicine will hold

a one-day meeting to review important new research on the link between

thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative in vaccines, and neurodevelopmental

disorders such as autism. One of the larger studies under review comes from the

CDC's own Vaccine Safety Datalink. Under independent investigation, CDC's data

concludes children are 27-times more likely to develop autism after exposure to

three thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs), than those who receive

thimerosal-free versions.

>

August 6, 2004

Thanks for the clarification. All I meant to say is that

the Geiers's work supported a causal link between thimerosal

exposure and autism incidence, as did the earliest work by

the CDC (based on an infantile autism or ICD-9 diagnosis).

I had a chance to have a 45 minute long phone conversation

with Dr. Morrow this afternoon. He finds the information

that I sent to him indeed intriguing. His original point

was that Aventis could essentially hold the public health

community hostage by threatening to decrease supplies of flu

vaccine. My point was that by not enacting the ban on

thimerosal, you were indeed showing that large pharma could

do whatever they wanted with little or no consequences.

When I asked for a broader solution to the dilemna of

the " bullying of the U.S. public by the pharmaceutical

industry, " Dr. Morrow had not real solution.

He does not believe that the CDC and the IOM would conspire

to keep the truth out of the hands of the public but did

concede that children like my son could indeed sustain an

injury from thimerosal. Again, children of this genotype

are held as collateral damage in the public health system's

misplaced " War on Infectious Disease. "

- I appreciate the benefit of the doubt. It's hard

for me to understand how other folks have the time to strain

through and criticize minutia in posts on this board. I'd

personally rather reserve any additional time I have to be

with my son.

---- Original message ----

>Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 17:10:29 -0600

>From: Binstock <binstock@...>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Dr. Morrow Fights Ban

on Thimerosal, a Proven Neurotoxin

>

>,

>

>In a hurried post, had written " Publications by Dr.

Mark Geier and

> Geier using the VAERS database support the CDC's

earliest finds. "

>

>You wrote that " This simply is not true. "

>

>I would like to offer a middle ground. On the simplest

level, Geiers'

>findings are consistent with the CDC's 1999 findings. In

other words,

>there is a strong positive association between autism and

thimerosal

>injections. Of course, the Geiers' findings *strengthen*

the

>association. Regardless, I believe that did not

assert that the

>Geiers' findings were identical to the CDC's 1999 findings

and that

>'s summary of the Geiers' findings " Publications by

Dr. Mark Geier

>and Geier using the VAERS database support the CDC's

earliest

>finds. " is technically and linguistically accurate.

>

>By the way, thnx for the two urls and quotes therefrom.

>

> Block had written:

>

>> In recently uncovered data from the CDC sponsored study

on

>> thimerosal and autism (from 1999), children listed on

the

>> Vaccine Safety Datalink exposed to specific levels of

>> thimerosal in their infant vaccinations were up to 11

times

>> more likely to be diagnosed with autism. This result

was

>> deemed statistically significant using a 95% confidence

>> interval test.

>>

>> The CDC then took steps to dilute causation data by

rather

>> blatant statistical olympics including unnecessary

>> stratifications of cohort sets. Publications by Dr.

Mark

>> Geier and Geier using the VAERS database support

the

>> CDC's earliest finds.

>>

>> This simply is not true. Geier and Geier's work

concluded the following:

>>

>> http://www.chicagoparent.com/columns11.htm

>>

>> Geier and Geier analyzed government vaccine data and

found that a child receiving injectable mercury during

vaccinations is 26 times more likely to become autistic than

a child who receives mercury-free shots. They also note that

the symptoms of mercury poisoning are the same as the

symptoms of autism.

>>

>> http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=362 & i=2208

>>

>> WASHINGTON, Feb. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, the Institute

of Medicine will hold a one-day meeting to review important

new research on the link between thimerosal, a mercury-based

preservative in vaccines, and neurodevelopmental disorders

such as autism. One of the larger studies under review comes

from the CDC's own Vaccine Safety Datalink. Under

independent investigation, CDC's data concludes children are

27-times more likely to develop autism after exposure to

three thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs), than those who

receive thimerosal-free versions.

>>

>

August 6, 2004

B,

Thnx for the phone-chat insights. Collateral damage is a phrase the AAP

director used during phone-chat with Albert Enayati. Perhaps that's how

many big-wigs think about vaccine damage -- collateral damage and let it

not be publicized. Thus the autism epidemic is merely collateral damage

and, to paraphrase team-player London, there is no epidemic.

Corruption as rancid as the medieval church.

T

brian@... wrote:

>

>Thanks for the clarification. All I meant to say is that

>the Geiers's work supported a causal link between thimerosal

>exposure and autism incidence, as did the earliest work by

>the CDC (based on an infantile autism or ICD-9 diagnosis).

>

August 7, 2004

It's incredulous that someone taking the forceful approach would choose a garden

hose as a weapon before entering the howling hurricane such as we have here.

I suppose the proverb is true. There are days to fish, and days to dry our nets.

We owe it to our children to stand fast, be patient, and be ready to give a

seasoned, accurate answer.

I hear that they are wishing we all would just drop dead.

Re: [ ] Dr. Morrow Fights Ban on Thimerosal, a

Proven Neurotoxin