Re: Another stupid question - crawling

[Guest guest]

From: Jo

Subject: Another stupid question - crawling

Rather interesting they both said that I could not

crawl properly and never actually did.

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No stupid questions here. I don't remember Dylan having any crawling problems

although most all my boys crawled very little. They took off running. For

fourteen years I had padded furniture! There was always a baby in the house.

With Dylan it was more of a verbal delay. He would hit my leg and yell at me. My

friends would ask me what he was saying. I said I didn't know, but I didn't like

what ever it was, and smacked his little bottom. He was so frustrated by not

being able to communicate. No body yells at Mamma!

Really, I wasn't mean, I would sit on the floor and try to talk to him. Try to

understand what he was trying to tell me. I guess the youngest of 5 doesn't get

the same one on one that a single child does. Poor kid, his brothers blamed

everything on him.

Cindylouwho

[Guest guest]

From: Jo

Subject: Another stupid question - crawling

Rather interesting they both said that I could not

crawl properly and never actually did.

*********************************************

No stupid questions here. I don't remember Dylan having any crawling problems

although most all my boys crawled very little. They took off running. For

fourteen years I had padded furniture! There was always a baby in the house.

With Dylan it was more of a verbal delay. He would hit my leg and yell at me. My

friends would ask me what he was saying. I said I didn't know, but I didn't like

what ever it was, and smacked his little bottom. He was so frustrated by not

being able to communicate. No body yells at Mamma!

Really, I wasn't mean, I would sit on the floor and try to talk to him. Try to

understand what he was trying to tell me. I guess the youngest of 5 doesn't get

the same one on one that a single child does. Poor kid, his brothers blamed

everything on him.

Cindylouwho

[Guest guest]

From: Jo

Subject: Another stupid question - crawling

Rather interesting they both said that I could not

crawl properly and never actually did.

*********************************************

No stupid questions here. I don't remember Dylan having any crawling problems

although most all my boys crawled very little. They took off running. For

fourteen years I had padded furniture! There was always a baby in the house.

With Dylan it was more of a verbal delay. He would hit my leg and yell at me. My

friends would ask me what he was saying. I said I didn't know, but I didn't like

what ever it was, and smacked his little bottom. He was so frustrated by not

being able to communicate. No body yells at Mamma!

Really, I wasn't mean, I would sit on the floor and try to talk to him. Try to

understand what he was trying to tell me. I guess the youngest of 5 doesn't get

the same one on one that a single child does. Poor kid, his brothers blamed

everything on him.

Cindylouwho

[Guest guest]

Jo, my son crawled OK, but could not sit up well at all, until he learned to

sit like a frog. In other words, if he sat with his knees pointed IN

instead of OUT - and the feet were out instead of in. Do you know what I

mean??? My cousin and I used to have races on tile floors this way, by

scooting our knees together and apart! LOL! If my son tried to sit

normally, he would just slump and fall over. He sat this way until probably

4th or 5th grade. I'm not sure if he can still do it or not - I don't think

I can, only because I've had surgery on my one knee.

Love Lana

Another stupid question - crawling

Okay, I have yet another stupid question to add to my ever so long

list! You must really despair of me when I get into one of

my " curious " moods like this, hee-hee!

Anyway, what I'm wondering about is whether anyone else here or their

kids have had issues with crawling as a baby at all. I was talking

with my parents the other night and somehow the conversation got to

when I was a baby. Rather interesting they both said that I could not

crawl properly and never actually did. To get around I would either

scramble backwards or sit upright with my legs splayed out at the

hips then bent in at the knee (kind of like the lotus position) and

do a sort of frog bounce across the carpet!! Gosh, I must have given

my parents and guest hours of free entertainment with that particular

party trick!

So I got to thinking, could my strange crawling and hopping have been

to do with my EDS at all? I was wondering if my inability to crawl

properly was from my joints and muscles being weak or painful? I am

also wondering whether the fact I was born with shallow hip sockets

and dislocating hips contributed to my comfort and ease in the lotus

position and frog hop movement? I had never really considered it

until now, but perhaps the EDS/Marfan and my various skeletal

deformities were already playing a part in my development.

It's just another strange curiosity of mine but I thought it was

worth asking to see if anyone else here had a strange crawling or

childhood movement issue. Thank for listening and allowing me to have

my stupid question moment again!

Love and hugs....Jo

xxx

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

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[Guest guest]

Jo, my son crawled OK, but could not sit up well at all, until he learned to

sit like a frog. In other words, if he sat with his knees pointed IN

instead of OUT - and the feet were out instead of in. Do you know what I

mean??? My cousin and I used to have races on tile floors this way, by

scooting our knees together and apart! LOL! If my son tried to sit

normally, he would just slump and fall over. He sat this way until probably

4th or 5th grade. I'm not sure if he can still do it or not - I don't think

I can, only because I've had surgery on my one knee.

Love Lana

Another stupid question - crawling

Okay, I have yet another stupid question to add to my ever so long

list! You must really despair of me when I get into one of

my " curious " moods like this, hee-hee!

Anyway, what I'm wondering about is whether anyone else here or their

kids have had issues with crawling as a baby at all. I was talking

with my parents the other night and somehow the conversation got to

when I was a baby. Rather interesting they both said that I could not

crawl properly and never actually did. To get around I would either

scramble backwards or sit upright with my legs splayed out at the

hips then bent in at the knee (kind of like the lotus position) and

do a sort of frog bounce across the carpet!! Gosh, I must have given

my parents and guest hours of free entertainment with that particular

party trick!

So I got to thinking, could my strange crawling and hopping have been

to do with my EDS at all? I was wondering if my inability to crawl

properly was from my joints and muscles being weak or painful? I am

also wondering whether the fact I was born with shallow hip sockets

and dislocating hips contributed to my comfort and ease in the lotus

position and frog hop movement? I had never really considered it

until now, but perhaps the EDS/Marfan and my various skeletal

deformities were already playing a part in my development.

It's just another strange curiosity of mine but I thought it was

worth asking to see if anyone else here had a strange crawling or

childhood movement issue. Thank for listening and allowing me to have

my stupid question moment again!

Love and hugs....Jo

xxx

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

_____

[Guest guest]

Jo, my son crawled OK, but could not sit up well at all, until he learned to

sit like a frog. In other words, if he sat with his knees pointed IN

instead of OUT - and the feet were out instead of in. Do you know what I

mean??? My cousin and I used to have races on tile floors this way, by

scooting our knees together and apart! LOL! If my son tried to sit

normally, he would just slump and fall over. He sat this way until probably

4th or 5th grade. I'm not sure if he can still do it or not - I don't think

I can, only because I've had surgery on my one knee.

Love Lana

Another stupid question - crawling

Okay, I have yet another stupid question to add to my ever so long

list! You must really despair of me when I get into one of

my " curious " moods like this, hee-hee!

Anyway, what I'm wondering about is whether anyone else here or their

kids have had issues with crawling as a baby at all. I was talking

with my parents the other night and somehow the conversation got to

when I was a baby. Rather interesting they both said that I could not

crawl properly and never actually did. To get around I would either

scramble backwards or sit upright with my legs splayed out at the

hips then bent in at the knee (kind of like the lotus position) and

do a sort of frog bounce across the carpet!! Gosh, I must have given

my parents and guest hours of free entertainment with that particular

party trick!

So I got to thinking, could my strange crawling and hopping have been

to do with my EDS at all? I was wondering if my inability to crawl

properly was from my joints and muscles being weak or painful? I am

also wondering whether the fact I was born with shallow hip sockets

and dislocating hips contributed to my comfort and ease in the lotus

position and frog hop movement? I had never really considered it

until now, but perhaps the EDS/Marfan and my various skeletal

deformities were already playing a part in my development.

It's just another strange curiosity of mine but I thought it was

worth asking to see if anyone else here had a strange crawling or

childhood movement issue. Thank for listening and allowing me to have

my stupid question moment again!

Love and hugs....Jo

xxx

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

_____

[Guest guest]

Jo,

I too didn't crawl i did a scoot thing on my bum, I am told I sort of

sat up with my legs out front in a sort of V position and sort of

brought my leg in and sort of hopped forward. I never actually

crawled EVER and when I started walking I used to fall over and bump

into everything all the time (I was that clumbsy etc that Mum took me

to the doctor when I was 4 and he said I was unco-ordinated and

recommended that Mum put me into ballet to make me more coordinated,

which she did) Pity it was EDS and ballet in fact made me worse (well

it is the cause of hip/pelvis issues). Mum said i always as a child

(well really I still do) fell over, walked into walls, doors,

cupboards and the freezer etc and so on.

Never really thought to much about it but now it screams EDS to me.

The other thing that my family did which screams EDS to me is that we

used to sit in FULL lotus position and then get up on our knees (with

legs locked in lotus position) and chase each other about the house

(not Mum although she could do lotus as easy as us kids). My sister

and I (i have an older brother (who scars badly) and a younger sister

whose stretch marks are scary they are so deep and purle/burgundy and

so many of them) used to lie on the floor and put our feet on the

back of our heads etc etc etc. And I don't know if this is EDS

related but I can remember when my brother was in his teens and went

through a growth spurt, he grew so fast his blood and brain couldn't

keep up and every time he stood up (or stood up to fast) he would

pass out in a dead faint.

AH the joys of EDS!!!!!

Sharon

> Okay, I have yet another stupid question to add to my ever so long

> list! You must really despair of me when I get into one of

> my " curious " moods like this, hee-hee!

>

> Anyway, what I'm wondering about is whether anyone else here or

their

> kids have had issues with crawling as a baby at all. I was talking

> with my parents the other night and somehow the conversation got to

> when I was a baby. Rather interesting they both said that I could

not

> crawl properly and never actually did. To get around I would either

> scramble backwards or sit upright with my legs splayed out at the

> hips then bent in at the knee (kind of like the lotus position) and

> do a sort of frog bounce across the carpet!! Gosh, I must have

given

> my parents and guest hours of free entertainment with that

particular

> party trick!

>

> So I got to thinking, could my strange crawling and hopping have

been

> to do with my EDS at all? I was wondering if my inability to crawl

> properly was from my joints and muscles being weak or painful? I am

> also wondering whether the fact I was born with shallow hip sockets

> and dislocating hips contributed to my comfort and ease in the

lotus

> position and frog hop movement? I had never really considered it

> until now, but perhaps the EDS/Marfan and my various skeletal

> deformities were already playing a part in my development.

>

> It's just another strange curiosity of mine but I thought it was

> worth asking to see if anyone else here had a strange crawling or

> childhood movement issue. Thank for listening and allowing me to

have

> my stupid question moment again!

>

> Love and hugs....Jo

> xxx

[Guest guest]

Jo,

I too didn't crawl i did a scoot thing on my bum, I am told I sort of

sat up with my legs out front in a sort of V position and sort of

brought my leg in and sort of hopped forward. I never actually

crawled EVER and when I started walking I used to fall over and bump

into everything all the time (I was that clumbsy etc that Mum took me

to the doctor when I was 4 and he said I was unco-ordinated and

recommended that Mum put me into ballet to make me more coordinated,

which she did) Pity it was EDS and ballet in fact made me worse (well

it is the cause of hip/pelvis issues). Mum said i always as a child

(well really I still do) fell over, walked into walls, doors,

cupboards and the freezer etc and so on.

Never really thought to much about it but now it screams EDS to me.

The other thing that my family did which screams EDS to me is that we

used to sit in FULL lotus position and then get up on our knees (with

legs locked in lotus position) and chase each other about the house

(not Mum although she could do lotus as easy as us kids). My sister

and I (i have an older brother (who scars badly) and a younger sister

whose stretch marks are scary they are so deep and purle/burgundy and

so many of them) used to lie on the floor and put our feet on the

back of our heads etc etc etc. And I don't know if this is EDS

related but I can remember when my brother was in his teens and went

through a growth spurt, he grew so fast his blood and brain couldn't

keep up and every time he stood up (or stood up to fast) he would

pass out in a dead faint.

AH the joys of EDS!!!!!

Sharon

> Okay, I have yet another stupid question to add to my ever so long

> list! You must really despair of me when I get into one of

> my " curious " moods like this, hee-hee!

>

> Anyway, what I'm wondering about is whether anyone else here or

their

> kids have had issues with crawling as a baby at all. I was talking

> with my parents the other night and somehow the conversation got to

> when I was a baby. Rather interesting they both said that I could

not

> crawl properly and never actually did. To get around I would either

> scramble backwards or sit upright with my legs splayed out at the

> hips then bent in at the knee (kind of like the lotus position) and

> do a sort of frog bounce across the carpet!! Gosh, I must have

given

> my parents and guest hours of free entertainment with that

particular

> party trick!

>

> So I got to thinking, could my strange crawling and hopping have

been

> to do with my EDS at all? I was wondering if my inability to crawl

> properly was from my joints and muscles being weak or painful? I am

> also wondering whether the fact I was born with shallow hip sockets

> and dislocating hips contributed to my comfort and ease in the

lotus

> position and frog hop movement? I had never really considered it

> until now, but perhaps the EDS/Marfan and my various skeletal

> deformities were already playing a part in my development.

>

> It's just another strange curiosity of mine but I thought it was

> worth asking to see if anyone else here had a strange crawling or

> childhood movement issue. Thank for listening and allowing me to

have

> my stupid question moment again!

>

> Love and hugs....Jo

> xxx

[Guest guest]

Jo,

I too didn't crawl i did a scoot thing on my bum, I am told I sort of

sat up with my legs out front in a sort of V position and sort of

brought my leg in and sort of hopped forward. I never actually

crawled EVER and when I started walking I used to fall over and bump

into everything all the time (I was that clumbsy etc that Mum took me

to the doctor when I was 4 and he said I was unco-ordinated and

recommended that Mum put me into ballet to make me more coordinated,

which she did) Pity it was EDS and ballet in fact made me worse (well

it is the cause of hip/pelvis issues). Mum said i always as a child

(well really I still do) fell over, walked into walls, doors,

cupboards and the freezer etc and so on.

Never really thought to much about it but now it screams EDS to me.

The other thing that my family did which screams EDS to me is that we

used to sit in FULL lotus position and then get up on our knees (with

legs locked in lotus position) and chase each other about the house

(not Mum although she could do lotus as easy as us kids). My sister

and I (i have an older brother (who scars badly) and a younger sister

whose stretch marks are scary they are so deep and purle/burgundy and

so many of them) used to lie on the floor and put our feet on the

back of our heads etc etc etc. And I don't know if this is EDS

related but I can remember when my brother was in his teens and went

through a growth spurt, he grew so fast his blood and brain couldn't

keep up and every time he stood up (or stood up to fast) he would

pass out in a dead faint.

AH the joys of EDS!!!!!

Sharon

> Okay, I have yet another stupid question to add to my ever so long

> list! You must really despair of me when I get into one of

> my " curious " moods like this, hee-hee!

>

> Anyway, what I'm wondering about is whether anyone else here or

their

> kids have had issues with crawling as a baby at all. I was talking

> with my parents the other night and somehow the conversation got to

> when I was a baby. Rather interesting they both said that I could

not

> crawl properly and never actually did. To get around I would either

> scramble backwards or sit upright with my legs splayed out at the

> hips then bent in at the knee (kind of like the lotus position) and

> do a sort of frog bounce across the carpet!! Gosh, I must have

given

> my parents and guest hours of free entertainment with that

particular

> party trick!

>

> So I got to thinking, could my strange crawling and hopping have

been

> to do with my EDS at all? I was wondering if my inability to crawl

> properly was from my joints and muscles being weak or painful? I am

> also wondering whether the fact I was born with shallow hip sockets

> and dislocating hips contributed to my comfort and ease in the

lotus

> position and frog hop movement? I had never really considered it

> until now, but perhaps the EDS/Marfan and my various skeletal

> deformities were already playing a part in my development.

>

> It's just another strange curiosity of mine but I thought it was

> worth asking to see if anyone else here had a strange crawling or

> childhood movement issue. Thank for listening and allowing me to

have

> my stupid question moment again!

>

> Love and hugs....Jo

> xxx

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/8/2004 18:01:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sicklizard@... writes:

Rather interesting they both said that I could not

crawl properly and never actually did. To get around I would either

scramble backwards or sit upright with my legs splayed out at the

hips then bent in at the knee (kind of like the lotus position) and

do a sort of frog bounce across the carpet!! Gosh, I must have given

my parents and guest hours of free entertainment with that particular

party trick!

My brother had crawling issues so my mom put a dress on him... I don't know

if it was the shame or the frustration but up he popped! Never to have a

crawling problem again. He shows signs of EDS but will not get into that with

me

right now so I am not sure of the extent. (he does not tolerate sick people or

sickness in himself so he rarely talks about illnesses)

Since the dress worked so well with him my mom put me in a dress before I

even showed signs I wanted to or could not crawl and up I popped in a matter of

days MONTHS before I ever was supposed to walk. Of course that is when all the

injuries and bruising and lack of control came to show but my parents just

assumed they had forced me to walk too soon. EDS was never in the picture when

I was young. HA! Not till I was 45 as a matter of fact! LOL!

Don't know if this helps but wanted to share.

Debbi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/8/2004 18:01:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sicklizard@... writes:

Rather interesting they both said that I could not

crawl properly and never actually did. To get around I would either

scramble backwards or sit upright with my legs splayed out at the

hips then bent in at the knee (kind of like the lotus position) and

do a sort of frog bounce across the carpet!! Gosh, I must have given

my parents and guest hours of free entertainment with that particular

party trick!

My brother had crawling issues so my mom put a dress on him... I don't know

if it was the shame or the frustration but up he popped! Never to have a

crawling problem again. He shows signs of EDS but will not get into that with

me

right now so I am not sure of the extent. (he does not tolerate sick people or

sickness in himself so he rarely talks about illnesses)

Since the dress worked so well with him my mom put me in a dress before I

even showed signs I wanted to or could not crawl and up I popped in a matter of

days MONTHS before I ever was supposed to walk. Of course that is when all the

injuries and bruising and lack of control came to show but my parents just

assumed they had forced me to walk too soon. EDS was never in the picture when

I was young. HA! Not till I was 45 as a matter of fact! LOL!

Don't know if this helps but wanted to share.

Debbi

[Guest guest]

I guess I should say that crawling was my brothers choice when he SHOULD HAVE

BEEN walking... that is why the dress for him.

Me on the other hand... I was the goofy crawling and tumbling kid... but like

I said that didn't last long because of the dress ... the goofy crawling and

tumbling just flowed over to goofy walking and tumbling!

LOL!

[Guest guest]

I guess I should say that crawling was my brothers choice when he SHOULD HAVE

BEEN walking... that is why the dress for him.

Me on the other hand... I was the goofy crawling and tumbling kid... but like

I said that didn't last long because of the dress ... the goofy crawling and

tumbling just flowed over to goofy walking and tumbling!

LOL!

[Guest guest]

I guess I should say that crawling was my brothers choice when he SHOULD HAVE

BEEN walking... that is why the dress for him.

Me on the other hand... I was the goofy crawling and tumbling kid... but like

I said that didn't last long because of the dress ... the goofy crawling and

tumbling just flowed over to goofy walking and tumbling!

LOL!

[Guest guest]

used to lie on the floor and put our feet on the

back of our heads etc etc etc.

Me too, Sharon! Everyone used to get a kick out of the " parlor

tricks " and at school, I was always in the hall because I was putting

on a show with my hands and fingers - even though I didn't mean to

all the time! In study hall, I'd write, and pretty soon, someone

would say, " Ewwwe, what's the matter with your hands?? " So I tried to

explain, and in doing so, it would be, " HORN - OUT IN THE HALL! " And

I'd think, well, here we go again! LOL! I spent the majority of my

junior and high school days in the hall!

Love Lana

[Guest guest]

used to lie on the floor and put our feet on the

back of our heads etc etc etc.

Me too, Sharon! Everyone used to get a kick out of the " parlor

tricks " and at school, I was always in the hall because I was putting

on a show with my hands and fingers - even though I didn't mean to

all the time! In study hall, I'd write, and pretty soon, someone

would say, " Ewwwe, what's the matter with your hands?? " So I tried to

explain, and in doing so, it would be, " HORN - OUT IN THE HALL! " And

I'd think, well, here we go again! LOL! I spent the majority of my

junior and high school days in the hall!

Love Lana

[Guest guest]

>

> RE: Another stupid question - crawling

>

>

> Jo, my son crawled OK, but could not sit up well at all, until he

learned to

> sit like a frog. In other words, if he sat with his knees

pointed IN

> instead of OUT - and the feet were out instead of in. Do you

know what I

> mean???

> ``````````

> It sounds like Cort sat in a " W " shape...really bad on the hip

sockets, but it's one way to stabilize the torso....

>

Yes, Bonnie, that's how he sat - I couldn't figure out how to say

it! Thanks for helping, and I would be most interested to know

what you find out!

Love Lana

[Guest guest]

never crawled. She went from rolling around, to getting around on her

hands and feet, with her butt up in the air. Then, walked at 10 months.

I don't think any of my kids spent much time crawling.

[Guest guest]

never crawled. She went from rolling around, to getting around on her

hands and feet, with her butt up in the air. Then, walked at 10 months.

I don't think any of my kids spent much time crawling.

[Guest guest]

never crawled. She went from rolling around, to getting around on her

hands and feet, with her butt up in the air. Then, walked at 10 months.

I don't think any of my kids spent much time crawling.

[Guest guest]

RE: Another stupid question - crawling

Jo, my son crawled OK, but could not sit up well at all, until he learned to

sit like a frog. In other words, if he sat with his knees pointed IN

instead of OUT - and the feet were out instead of in. Do you know what I

mean???

``````````

It sounds like Cort sat in a " W " shape...really bad on the hip sockets, but

it's one way to stabilize the torso....

I've been reading about Developmental Coordination Disorder, and EDS is

mentioned, if it's more severe... late walking, talking, etc, clumsiness....I'm

still reading up on it and will try to remember to type up some info for the

list.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My daughter is now 18 and supposedly has classical EDS, although most of her

problems are vascular in nature.

She rolled and sat up as a baby much later than she should have. She didin't

learn to crawl until about 9 months, but she would roll over and over to get

where she wanted to go, or eventually drag herself around with her arms.

Interesting thought...