Re: NEED HELP WITH HAIR TEST RESULTS

[Guest guest]

,

I look at this hair test, and I am pretty concerned. I don't want to

scare you, but I have never seen such levels. Unfortunately, the

counting rules do not apply to great smokies. Because your results are

so disturbing - if it were my child - I would probably have it repeated

by DDI, and start preparations for chelation.

When I started last May - we had really high anitmony levels as you do.

Be sure to eliminate exposures, as being toxic in this metal can be just

as bad as mercury. Pajamas, water, bed, sheets, playpens, car seats.

There is an another group that adresses this-

antimonyandarsenic/

If this test is accurate - and your child functions pretty well, I might

suspect a chronic exposure of some sort. I would buy organic food,

replace water supply, replace bed w/organic, replace pajamas, test the

soil & water, ensure suppliments are from mercury free sources- etc.

I am curious- how well is your child?

[ ] NEED HELP WITH HAIR TEST RESULTS

i'm reposting this b/c i didn't get any response. if anyone can

help...plz do! hair test results below...

thanks!

jenny

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

1. I agree with 's post--- you have lots of toxic

metals here -- going by the " red " and " yellow " in the

toxic section.

2. I did also comment on this back in post #108790, saying

some of the same thing.

3. Please understand that GSDL's ranges for green, yellow

and red are NOT the same as DDI's-- (GSDL's ranges show things

as yellow or red sooner [at lower percentile] as compared

to DDI.) So, I feel somewhat handicapped in trying to

look at your test results. Please ALSO understand that

GSDL tests fewer essential elements, so there is less

data to go by. HOWEVER, given all of that, and bearing

in mind that I feel somewhat handicapped, I would still

say that the essential elements on this test look

VERY ABNORMAL, which is generally an indicator of a high

probability of mercury toxicity.

4. But even if I'm wrong on the mineral transport issue,

the other toxic elements look like a problem.

5. could you please check the test results. The following

does not " seem right " to me:

> > aluminum 5.20 <=23.13 yellow

if ref range is < 23.13 and your sample is 5.20,

I would expect this to be " green " ?

> > arsenic .074 <=0.082 yellow

and same thing here

> > barium .19 <=3.26 yellow

and same thing here except this one is WAY WAY under 3.26....

> > bismuth .201 <=0.224 yellow

> > cadmium .065 <=0.106 yellow

> > lead .523 <=1.559 yellow

> > mercury .07 <=1.69 yellow

> > nickel .145 <=0.559 yellow

> > thallium <.0005 <=0.0005 yellow

and all of these above

> > uranium .001 <=0.072 yellow

and this one, by a mile.

I'm also looking at the ref ranges and colors on

the essential elements, and I have some of the same

confusion there---

> > copper 7.28 7.62-28.76 under 50% red

How can this be " red under " when the ref range is 7.62 - 28.76

and this is just a tad under that? It is POSSIBLE, but I

wonder if it is correct.

Please check the color.

Final comment: I'm confused.

good wishes,

Moria

> > thank you andy, moria or anyone who can help...

> >

> > lab: gsdl

> > hair test

> >

> > toxic elements:

> > aluminum 5.20 <=23.13 yellow

> > antimony 1.74 <=0.03 red

> > arsenic .074 <=0.082 yellow

> > barium .19 <=3.26 yellow

> > bismuth .201 <=0.224 yellow

> > cadmium .065 <=0.106 yellow

> > lead .523 <=1.559 yellow

> > mercury .07 <=1.69 yellow

> > nickel .145 <=0.559 yellow

> > thallium <.0005 <=0.0005 yellow

> > tin .9517 <=0.1825 red

> > uranium .001 <=0.072 yellow

> >

> > nutrient elements

> > calcium 141.1 115.9-992.5 under 50% yellow

> > magnesium 35.4 6.5-88.5 under 50% green

> > copper 7.28 7.62-28.76 under 50% red

> > zinc 123.6 87.5-281.5 under 50% yellow

> > manganese .080 .035-1.011 under 50% yellow

> > chromium .66 .17-.49 over 50% red

> > cobalt .0083 .0035-.0307 under 50% yellow

> > molybdenum .058 .015-.048 over 50% red

> > boron 36.885 .177-4.860 over 50% red

> > lithium .0143 .0032-.0119 over 50% red

> > strontium .84 .08-2.87 under 50% green

> > sulfur 53,125 43,122-51,875 over 50% red

> > vanadium .0684 .0254-.0574 over 50% red

> >

> > rubidium .081 .0004-.072 over 50%

> > iron <13.51 13.51-18.48 under 50%

> > phosphorus 192.64 116.65-300.60 under 50%

> >

> > thank you!

> > jenny

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/15/2004 10:45:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jenniferasmus@... writes:

> Because your results are

> so disturbing - if it were my child - I would probably have it repeated

> by DDI, and start preparations for chelation.

>

I second all that said.

Nell

[Guest guest]

hi moria...

thanks for your response. for the toxic elements, on my test there

is no green area only yellow which is reference range and red which

is over reference range. then for the nutrient elements, it goes red

on the lowest level, then yellow, then green in center for ref range,

then yellow slightly higher and red the highest. i hope that makes

more sense. i didn't reaize how much different the actual testing

sheets are from company to company.

thanks...

jenny

> > > thank you andy, moria or anyone who can help...

> > >

> > > lab: gsdl

> > > hair test

> > >

> > > toxic elements:

> > > aluminum 5.20 <=23.13 yellow

> > > antimony 1.74 <=0.03 red

> > > arsenic .074 <=0.082 yellow

> > > barium .19 <=3.26 yellow

> > > bismuth .201 <=0.224 yellow

> > > cadmium .065 <=0.106 yellow

> > > lead .523 <=1.559 yellow

> > > mercury .07 <=1.69 yellow

> > > nickel .145 <=0.559 yellow

> > > thallium <.0005 <=0.0005 yellow

> > > tin .9517 <=0.1825 red

> > > uranium .001 <=0.072 yellow

> > >

> > > nutrient elements

> > > calcium 141.1 115.9-992.5 under 50% yellow

> > > magnesium 35.4 6.5-88.5 under 50% green

> > > copper 7.28 7.62-28.76 under 50% red

> > > zinc 123.6 87.5-281.5 under 50% yellow

> > > manganese .080 .035-1.011 under 50% yellow

> > > chromium .66 .17-.49 over 50% red

> > > cobalt .0083 .0035-.0307 under 50% yellow

> > > molybdenum .058 .015-.048 over 50% red

> > > boron 36.885 .177-4.860 over 50% red

> > > lithium .0143 .0032-.0119 over 50% red

> > > strontium .84 .08-2.87 under 50% green

> > > sulfur 53,125 43,122-51,875 over 50% red

> > > vanadium .0684 .0254-.0574 over 50% red

> > >

> > > rubidium .081 .0004-.072 over 50%

> > > iron <13.51 13.51-18.48 under 50%

> > > phosphorus 192.64 116.65-300.60 under 50%

> > >

> > > thank you!

> > > jenny

[Guest guest]

hi jennifer...

thanks for your response.

i think maybe (atleast i'm hoping) that everyone is being thrown off

by the yellow levels in his toxic elements. on the gsdl test, there

is only yellow which is reference range and red which is above

reference range. there is no green. does this sound better than

what you originally interpreted? I was very concerned about the

antimony and the tin, because they were above ref. range, but assumed

the rest of the metals were in a " safe " range. Please letme know if

you think this is still such unusual levels.

i am a member of the antimony and arsenic board but i'm dissapointed

in it b/c there are not near as many posts flowing in as here. since

you are probably a member of that one, too and sound

knowledgeable...do you mind if i ask a couple more questions...

how do you find out if your carseat is toxic and where do you find

ones that are not?

i've gotten rid of jammies and replaced with 100% cotton tees and

boxers for sleeping. but what about polyester in his clothing?

practically every t-shirt he wons is atleast 1/4 polyester.

do you have to replace mattress or can you cover it with something?

when you chelate with dmsa and ala, will that also get rid of

antimony and tin?

what do you suggest for water? i use filtered water but have started

to boil it. does this sound ok?

my sheets and pillows do not say that they are treated with flame

retardant. Do i assume that all except organic are treated?

my son is a lot better since we started gfcf. i am now limiting

carbs, sugars, etc for yeast which was a 1+ and will start chelation

very soon. he was recently tested as a very low possibility of

having autism and at his new school, we opted for the " label " of pdd

instead of autism, because we believe he could be mainstreamed (one

day). his skill levels are very scattered, but have improved greatly

since starting the diet. our main concern (behaviorwise) is social

skills and that he is completely non verbal. we have him on several

supplements but nothing has worked for language yet.

thanks for any more advice you can pass along.

thanks!

jenny

> ,

>

> I look at this hair test, and I am pretty concerned. I don't want to

> scare you, but I have never seen such levels. Unfortunately, the

> counting rules do not apply to great smokies. Because your results

are

> so disturbing - if it were my child - I would probably have it

repeated

> by DDI, and start preparations for chelation.

>

> When I started last May - we had really high anitmony levels as you

do.

> Be sure to eliminate exposures, as being toxic in this metal can be

just

> as bad as mercury. Pajamas, water, bed, sheets, playpens, car seats.

> There is an another group that adresses this-

> antimonyandarsenic/

>

> If this test is accurate - and your child functions pretty well, I

might

> suspect a chronic exposure of some sort. I would buy organic food,

> replace water supply, replace bed w/organic, replace pajamas, test

the

> soil & water, ensure suppliments are from mercury free sources- etc.

>

>

> I am curious- how well is your child?

>

>

>

>

> [ ] NEED HELP WITH HAIR TEST RESULTS

>

>

> i'm reposting this b/c i didn't get any response. if anyone can

> help...plz do! hair test results below...

>

> thanks!

> jenny

[Guest guest]

>>However, my daughter is still getting

> ill very often and appears to have barely any immune system, so I

> wonder if she doesn't have some type of mercury toxicity.

Vitamin C was essential for my son's immune system.

Dana

[Guest guest]

This test is a Genova Elemental Analysis - it is an effort to

apply the counting rules to this test. DDI hair tests are

recommended. Also, you haven't included information about colors

and under/over for the essentials (which is hard to explain how

to do for this test, and not really worth the effort from what I

can see).

I think it might meet counting rule 1 - does not meet the other

rules. I suggest checking for sources of antimony, bismuth,

cadmium, and lead, and removing those. One source of lead can be

drinking water, cadmium exposure can come from second hand smoke,

antimony is in flame retardant bedding/pjs. Other sources can be

found at Dana's link and in Andy Cutler's book:

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

Even just based on symptoms, it is worth doing a trial of chelation.

Since lead and cadmium may be involved, DMSA is the best chelator to

use. After you find a comfortable dose of DMSA, you'll want to add

ALA to get mercury out of the brain.

See the files for information on how to chelate safely with low,

frequent dosing, and for important supplements to use while chelating.

--

>

> Hello Everyone:

>

> I'm rather new here and don't post much but I do learn a lot from

> everyone here. To make a very long story short, I have a 4.5 y.o.

> daughter who (I posted the story a few months back) had immunizations

> (MMR, DTaP, and Polio)in Sept '06 and about 2 months afterwards began

> displaying OCD-like symptoms, having facial tics along with snorting,

> aggressive behavior, eye rolling and shoulder/head twitching. This all

> started literally overnight. The majority of these symptoms have

> improved tremendously with the help of Houston enzymes, which I learned

> of on this board..THANK YOU ALL! However, my daughter is still getting

> ill very often and appears to have barely any immune system, so I

> wonder if she doesn't have some type of mercury toxicity.

>

> I decided to have her hair tested and I need some help with the

> results. I posted her file in the Files section under the Hair samples

> folder. It's called " Hair Test Results.pdf " . Please, if anyone

> can help, I'd truly appreciate it. Thanks to everyone on this board,

> as I am learning more everyday. It is through networking parents such

> as us, that we will eventually heal our hurting children and ourselves.

>

> Blessings,

>

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