RE: Well that was just stupid

[Guest guest]

{{{{{{{{Sara}}}}}}}} - big hugs to you. Sure wish I could give them to you

in person. I completely understand what you're talking about and I wish

every single one of us could have been there with you and told those ignorant

folks a thing or two. I still think we need to have shirts made for our kids

that say " I'm Autistic. What's YOUR excuse? "

Love, prayers and heart hugs...

Debbie (Dawsonville, GA) - Mom to Evan (9/7/98) ToF, repair surgery on

2/11/99, Absent Pulmonary Valve, RBBB, Asthma, Autism, and , born

4/13/02 .... another miracle baby! And, of course, my three angel babies

(10/16/95; 4/26/96; 10/5/00) who I will meet when God says it's time.

April is National Autism Awareness Month!

[Guest guest]

{{{{{{{{Sara}}}}}}}} - big hugs to you. Sure wish I could give them to you

in person. I completely understand what you're talking about and I wish

every single one of us could have been there with you and told those ignorant

folks a thing or two. I still think we need to have shirts made for our kids

that say " I'm Autistic. What's YOUR excuse? "

Love, prayers and heart hugs...

Debbie (Dawsonville, GA) - Mom to Evan (9/7/98) ToF, repair surgery on

2/11/99, Absent Pulmonary Valve, RBBB, Asthma, Autism, and , born

4/13/02 .... another miracle baby! And, of course, my three angel babies

(10/16/95; 4/26/96; 10/5/00) who I will meet when God says it's time.

April is National Autism Awareness Month!

[Guest guest]

Sara,

This is me shopping with Savannah.

I have gotten tons of dirty looks shoe shopping with her. UGH!

There was one time she tried on about a million pairs of shoes, she kept

complaining that they all felt funny. The sales person asked if we needed

help. No. Told me that the foot measurer thingy was over there if I needed

it. Last time I used that freaking thing. Just made things all the worse.

She owuldn't put her foot in it right and fought with me and everything. I

am sure that people think I am a horrible mother.

This last time the kids needed shoes I told Savannah " Here are your size,

find something " . I refuse to deal with the crap from her any more.

Everything from " they feel funny " to " they feel fine but I don't like them "

ARGH!

Shoe shopping is just hell! That is all there is to it.

Georga Hackworth

Men, can't live with them, can't trade them in for their weight in

chocolate.

April is Autism Awareness Month!

Enter to win $50 in free books at www.ubah.com/F1549

Well that was just stupid

> I took to OT alone today as Matt & Gabe were napping. His teacher

> mentioned today that he was walking funny and she wondered if his shoes

were

> bothering him. We had noticed this about 2 weeks ago and intended to get

> him new ones, but he has been sick or whatever since then and had not worn

> his shoes so we had forgotten, besides just not having gone anywhere.

>

> So after OT, we went to the store.

>

> . And me. At the store. Alone. For shoes.

>

> SHOES.

>

> *sigh*

>

> The next time he needs shoes I am taking his old pair to the store and

> getting the next size bigger. It would be FAR less hassle to return a

pair

> that don't quite fit than go shopping with him again.

>

> And of course, everyone stood and stared and made snide remarks and stood

> there with their thumbs up their asses when he got away from me and zoomed

> past them.

>

> I swear to God we found THE ONE AND ONLY PAIR of shoes that a) were for

> boys, were the right size, and c) did not have laces IN THE ENTIRE

> FUCKING STORE.

>

> We left a trail of shoes and shoeboxes on the floor. As we FINALLY got

the

> hell out of there (with a screaming in the cart trying to climb

out)

> he was reaching out and grabbing anything he could - clothes off the racks

> mostly - and I pulled them out of his hands and jsut dropped them ont he

> floor. There was an employee next to the shoes as we left and he gave us

a

> filthy look.

>

> The mess would have been FAR worse if I had tried to clean it up. That,

or

> would have bolted and I would have let him.

>

> Actually I could go back and spend happy hours sorting and organizing and

> stacking all the shoes...all by myself......forget the island in Tahiti,

> give me a job at a shoe store!

>

> Anyone got some xanax they want to share?

>

> -Sara.

> Wife to Matt

> SAHM to (3.5, autism)

> Gabe (22 mos, speech delay)

> and 'Punkin' due late May!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sara,

This is me shopping with Savannah.

I have gotten tons of dirty looks shoe shopping with her. UGH!

There was one time she tried on about a million pairs of shoes, she kept

complaining that they all felt funny. The sales person asked if we needed

help. No. Told me that the foot measurer thingy was over there if I needed

it. Last time I used that freaking thing. Just made things all the worse.

She owuldn't put her foot in it right and fought with me and everything. I

am sure that people think I am a horrible mother.

This last time the kids needed shoes I told Savannah " Here are your size,

find something " . I refuse to deal with the crap from her any more.

Everything from " they feel funny " to " they feel fine but I don't like them "

ARGH!

Shoe shopping is just hell! That is all there is to it.

Georga Hackworth

Men, can't live with them, can't trade them in for their weight in

chocolate.

April is Autism Awareness Month!

Enter to win $50 in free books at www.ubah.com/F1549

Well that was just stupid

> I took to OT alone today as Matt & Gabe were napping. His teacher

> mentioned today that he was walking funny and she wondered if his shoes

were

> bothering him. We had noticed this about 2 weeks ago and intended to get

> him new ones, but he has been sick or whatever since then and had not worn

> his shoes so we had forgotten, besides just not having gone anywhere.

>

> So after OT, we went to the store.

>

> . And me. At the store. Alone. For shoes.

>

> SHOES.

>

> *sigh*

>

> The next time he needs shoes I am taking his old pair to the store and

> getting the next size bigger. It would be FAR less hassle to return a

pair

> that don't quite fit than go shopping with him again.

>

> And of course, everyone stood and stared and made snide remarks and stood

> there with their thumbs up their asses when he got away from me and zoomed

> past them.

>

> I swear to God we found THE ONE AND ONLY PAIR of shoes that a) were for

> boys, were the right size, and c) did not have laces IN THE ENTIRE

> FUCKING STORE.

>

> We left a trail of shoes and shoeboxes on the floor. As we FINALLY got

the

> hell out of there (with a screaming in the cart trying to climb

out)

> he was reaching out and grabbing anything he could - clothes off the racks

> mostly - and I pulled them out of his hands and jsut dropped them ont he

> floor. There was an employee next to the shoes as we left and he gave us

a

> filthy look.

>

> The mess would have been FAR worse if I had tried to clean it up. That,

or

> would have bolted and I would have let him.

>

> Actually I could go back and spend happy hours sorting and organizing and

> stacking all the shoes...all by myself......forget the island in Tahiti,

> give me a job at a shoe store!

>

> Anyone got some xanax they want to share?

>

> -Sara.

> Wife to Matt

> SAHM to (3.5, autism)

> Gabe (22 mos, speech delay)

> and 'Punkin' due late May!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sara,

This is me shopping with Savannah.

I have gotten tons of dirty looks shoe shopping with her. UGH!

There was one time she tried on about a million pairs of shoes, she kept

complaining that they all felt funny. The sales person asked if we needed

help. No. Told me that the foot measurer thingy was over there if I needed

it. Last time I used that freaking thing. Just made things all the worse.

She owuldn't put her foot in it right and fought with me and everything. I

am sure that people think I am a horrible mother.

This last time the kids needed shoes I told Savannah " Here are your size,

find something " . I refuse to deal with the crap from her any more.

Everything from " they feel funny " to " they feel fine but I don't like them "

ARGH!

Shoe shopping is just hell! That is all there is to it.

Georga Hackworth

Men, can't live with them, can't trade them in for their weight in

chocolate.

April is Autism Awareness Month!

Enter to win $50 in free books at www.ubah.com/F1549

Well that was just stupid

> I took to OT alone today as Matt & Gabe were napping. His teacher

> mentioned today that he was walking funny and she wondered if his shoes

were

> bothering him. We had noticed this about 2 weeks ago and intended to get

> him new ones, but he has been sick or whatever since then and had not worn

> his shoes so we had forgotten, besides just not having gone anywhere.

>

> So after OT, we went to the store.

>

> . And me. At the store. Alone. For shoes.

>

> SHOES.

>

> *sigh*

>

> The next time he needs shoes I am taking his old pair to the store and

> getting the next size bigger. It would be FAR less hassle to return a

pair

> that don't quite fit than go shopping with him again.

>

> And of course, everyone stood and stared and made snide remarks and stood

> there with their thumbs up their asses when he got away from me and zoomed

> past them.

>

> I swear to God we found THE ONE AND ONLY PAIR of shoes that a) were for

> boys, were the right size, and c) did not have laces IN THE ENTIRE

> FUCKING STORE.

>

> We left a trail of shoes and shoeboxes on the floor. As we FINALLY got

the

> hell out of there (with a screaming in the cart trying to climb

out)

> he was reaching out and grabbing anything he could - clothes off the racks

> mostly - and I pulled them out of his hands and jsut dropped them ont he

> floor. There was an employee next to the shoes as we left and he gave us

a

> filthy look.

>

> The mess would have been FAR worse if I had tried to clean it up. That,

or

> would have bolted and I would have let him.

>

> Actually I could go back and spend happy hours sorting and organizing and

> stacking all the shoes...all by myself......forget the island in Tahiti,

> give me a job at a shoe store!

>

> Anyone got some xanax they want to share?

>

> -Sara.

> Wife to Matt

> SAHM to (3.5, autism)

> Gabe (22 mos, speech delay)

> and 'Punkin' due late May!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sara,

I think there should be a special place in hell for people like that who

lack any understanding and empathy. I'm sorry you went through that.

Maggie

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Sara,

I think there should be a special place in hell for people like that who

lack any understanding and empathy. I'm sorry you went through that.

Maggie

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Sara,

I think there should be a special place in hell for people like that who

lack any understanding and empathy. I'm sorry you went through that.

Maggie

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bad YOUR disability only shows up when you open your mouth! "

Maggie

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[Guest guest]

>

> . And me. At the store. Alone. For shoes.

(((((Hugs))))))

I know the feeling. I took Sami & grocery shopping today.

Apparently I've been bragging about his major jumps in development

too much because he had a total meltdown.

Called me names (baby, stupid, stupidhead, babyhead???- nothing foul,

just something he knows he shouldn't do) hit me, tried to scratch me,

kicked me, ran out into traffic, tried to throw things out of the

shopping cart, tried to throw things off the counter....well, you get

the picture.

He's 7, stands about 52 inches high and weighs almost 70 lbs.

I think I need the karate lessons for him. : /

Tina

[Guest guest]

>

> . And me. At the store. Alone. For shoes.

(((((Hugs))))))

I know the feeling. I took Sami & grocery shopping today.

Apparently I've been bragging about his major jumps in development

too much because he had a total meltdown.

Called me names (baby, stupid, stupidhead, babyhead???- nothing foul,

just something he knows he shouldn't do) hit me, tried to scratch me,

kicked me, ran out into traffic, tried to throw things out of the

shopping cart, tried to throw things off the counter....well, you get

the picture.

He's 7, stands about 52 inches high and weighs almost 70 lbs.

I think I need the karate lessons for him. : /

Tina

[Guest guest]

>

> . And me. At the store. Alone. For shoes.

(((((Hugs))))))

I know the feeling. I took Sami & grocery shopping today.

Apparently I've been bragging about his major jumps in development

too much because he had a total meltdown.

Called me names (baby, stupid, stupidhead, babyhead???- nothing foul,

just something he knows he shouldn't do) hit me, tried to scratch me,

kicked me, ran out into traffic, tried to throw things out of the

shopping cart, tried to throw things off the counter....well, you get

the picture.

He's 7, stands about 52 inches high and weighs almost 70 lbs.

I think I need the karate lessons for him. : /

Tina

[Guest guest]

Yep, I'd go alone the next time too!

(((((Sara)))))

[Guest guest]

I detest shoe shopping. doesn't care as long as they are

tennis shoes. Gail has a shoe fettish, I kid you not. She goes to

yard sales in the summer and SNEAKS them into the house. I throw

them out on a regular basis.

and are both horrid to shop for. Neither of them

wants to change their shoes. The old shoes are just fine,

thankyouverymuch. The new ones don't feel right, and they boys have

legitimately hard to fit feet anyway. Getting them to try on shoes

is like torture and once you get a pair on then they are done, forget

trying more. at least hangs around and sort of helps unless he

is checking out exercise equipment, but is under the chair,

in the clothes rack, behind the shelf, and other young autistic type

boy activities.

likes Elefanten brand shoes and will fuss horridly if you put

any other shoe on his foot. He will not keep the shoes on. JJ was

the same but as he is getting bigger there are some good quality

tennies that have become acceptable. Elefantens are incredible

shoes, but 1)there is no place to buy them here, and 2) they are NOT

inexpensive. Of course!

Once the new shoes have been procured you must immediately dispose of

the old shoes or the new shoes will not be worn. They will naturally

commence with grieving the loss of the old shoes and whine for days

about the new shoes. Eventually, over weeks and months the new shoes

become old shoes and the cycle repeats itself.

This system is the same one implemented for new coats, sweatshirts,

jeans, socks, etc.

[Guest guest]

I detest shoe shopping. doesn't care as long as they are

tennis shoes. Gail has a shoe fettish, I kid you not. She goes to

yard sales in the summer and SNEAKS them into the house. I throw

them out on a regular basis.

and are both horrid to shop for. Neither of them

wants to change their shoes. The old shoes are just fine,

thankyouverymuch. The new ones don't feel right, and they boys have

legitimately hard to fit feet anyway. Getting them to try on shoes

is like torture and once you get a pair on then they are done, forget

trying more. at least hangs around and sort of helps unless he

is checking out exercise equipment, but is under the chair,

in the clothes rack, behind the shelf, and other young autistic type

boy activities.

likes Elefanten brand shoes and will fuss horridly if you put

any other shoe on his foot. He will not keep the shoes on. JJ was

the same but as he is getting bigger there are some good quality

tennies that have become acceptable. Elefantens are incredible

shoes, but 1)there is no place to buy them here, and 2) they are NOT

inexpensive. Of course!

Once the new shoes have been procured you must immediately dispose of

the old shoes or the new shoes will not be worn. They will naturally

commence with grieving the loss of the old shoes and whine for days

about the new shoes. Eventually, over weeks and months the new shoes

become old shoes and the cycle repeats itself.

This system is the same one implemented for new coats, sweatshirts,

jeans, socks, etc.

[Guest guest]

I detest shoe shopping. doesn't care as long as they are

tennis shoes. Gail has a shoe fettish, I kid you not. She goes to

yard sales in the summer and SNEAKS them into the house. I throw

them out on a regular basis.

and are both horrid to shop for. Neither of them

wants to change their shoes. The old shoes are just fine,

thankyouverymuch. The new ones don't feel right, and they boys have

legitimately hard to fit feet anyway. Getting them to try on shoes

is like torture and once you get a pair on then they are done, forget

trying more. at least hangs around and sort of helps unless he

is checking out exercise equipment, but is under the chair,

in the clothes rack, behind the shelf, and other young autistic type

boy activities.

likes Elefanten brand shoes and will fuss horridly if you put

any other shoe on his foot. He will not keep the shoes on. JJ was

the same but as he is getting bigger there are some good quality

tennies that have become acceptable. Elefantens are incredible

shoes, but 1)there is no place to buy them here, and 2) they are NOT

inexpensive. Of course!

Once the new shoes have been procured you must immediately dispose of

the old shoes or the new shoes will not be worn. They will naturally

commence with grieving the loss of the old shoes and whine for days

about the new shoes. Eventually, over weeks and months the new shoes

become old shoes and the cycle repeats itself.

This system is the same one implemented for new coats, sweatshirts,

jeans, socks, etc.

[Guest guest]

This just sounds so painful reading it.

But the truth is we go through the same thing here with some of the kids.

Why does it sound so painful to read it but doesn't seem so bad living it??

Once again, I am confused

Georga Hackworth

Men, can't live with them, can't trade them in for their weight in

chocolate.

April is Autism Awareness Month!

Enter to win $50 in free books at www.ubah.com/F1549

Re: Well that was just stupid

> I detest shoe shopping. doesn't care as long as they are

> tennis shoes. Gail has a shoe fettish, I kid you not. She goes to

> yard sales in the summer and SNEAKS them into the house. I throw

> them out on a regular basis.

>

> and are both horrid to shop for. Neither of them

> wants to change their shoes. The old shoes are just fine,

> thankyouverymuch. The new ones don't feel right, and they boys have

> legitimately hard to fit feet anyway. Getting them to try on shoes

> is like torture and once you get a pair on then they are done, forget

> trying more. at least hangs around and sort of helps unless he

> is checking out exercise equipment, but is under the chair,

> in the clothes rack, behind the shelf, and other young autistic type

> boy activities.

>

> likes Elefanten brand shoes and will fuss horridly if you put

> any other shoe on his foot. He will not keep the shoes on. JJ was

> the same but as he is getting bigger there are some good quality

> tennies that have become acceptable. Elefantens are incredible

> shoes, but 1)there is no place to buy them here, and 2) they are NOT

> inexpensive. Of course!

>

> Once the new shoes have been procured you must immediately dispose of

> the old shoes or the new shoes will not be worn. They will naturally

> commence with grieving the loss of the old shoes and whine for days

> about the new shoes. Eventually, over weeks and months the new shoes

> become old shoes and the cycle repeats itself.

>

> This system is the same one implemented for new coats, sweatshirts,

> jeans, socks, etc.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This just sounds so painful reading it.

But the truth is we go through the same thing here with some of the kids.

Why does it sound so painful to read it but doesn't seem so bad living it??

Once again, I am confused

Georga Hackworth

Men, can't live with them, can't trade them in for their weight in

chocolate.

April is Autism Awareness Month!

Enter to win $50 in free books at www.ubah.com/F1549

Re: Well that was just stupid

> I detest shoe shopping. doesn't care as long as they are

> tennis shoes. Gail has a shoe fettish, I kid you not. She goes to

> yard sales in the summer and SNEAKS them into the house. I throw

> them out on a regular basis.

>

> and are both horrid to shop for. Neither of them

> wants to change their shoes. The old shoes are just fine,

> thankyouverymuch. The new ones don't feel right, and they boys have

> legitimately hard to fit feet anyway. Getting them to try on shoes

> is like torture and once you get a pair on then they are done, forget

> trying more. at least hangs around and sort of helps unless he

> is checking out exercise equipment, but is under the chair,

> in the clothes rack, behind the shelf, and other young autistic type

> boy activities.

>

> likes Elefanten brand shoes and will fuss horridly if you put

> any other shoe on his foot. He will not keep the shoes on. JJ was

> the same but as he is getting bigger there are some good quality

> tennies that have become acceptable. Elefantens are incredible

> shoes, but 1)there is no place to buy them here, and 2) they are NOT

> inexpensive. Of course!

>

> Once the new shoes have been procured you must immediately dispose of

> the old shoes or the new shoes will not be worn. They will naturally

> commence with grieving the loss of the old shoes and whine for days

> about the new shoes. Eventually, over weeks and months the new shoes

> become old shoes and the cycle repeats itself.

>

> This system is the same one implemented for new coats, sweatshirts,

> jeans, socks, etc.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This just sounds so painful reading it.

But the truth is we go through the same thing here with some of the kids.

Why does it sound so painful to read it but doesn't seem so bad living it??

Once again, I am confused

Georga Hackworth

Men, can't live with them, can't trade them in for their weight in

chocolate.

April is Autism Awareness Month!

Enter to win $50 in free books at www.ubah.com/F1549

Re: Well that was just stupid

> I detest shoe shopping. doesn't care as long as they are

> tennis shoes. Gail has a shoe fettish, I kid you not. She goes to

> yard sales in the summer and SNEAKS them into the house. I throw

> them out on a regular basis.

>

> and are both horrid to shop for. Neither of them

> wants to change their shoes. The old shoes are just fine,

> thankyouverymuch. The new ones don't feel right, and they boys have

> legitimately hard to fit feet anyway. Getting them to try on shoes

> is like torture and once you get a pair on then they are done, forget

> trying more. at least hangs around and sort of helps unless he

> is checking out exercise equipment, but is under the chair,

> in the clothes rack, behind the shelf, and other young autistic type

> boy activities.

>

> likes Elefanten brand shoes and will fuss horridly if you put

> any other shoe on his foot. He will not keep the shoes on. JJ was

> the same but as he is getting bigger there are some good quality

> tennies that have become acceptable. Elefantens are incredible

> shoes, but 1)there is no place to buy them here, and 2) they are NOT

> inexpensive. Of course!

>

> Once the new shoes have been procured you must immediately dispose of

> the old shoes or the new shoes will not be worn. They will naturally

> commence with grieving the loss of the old shoes and whine for days

> about the new shoes. Eventually, over weeks and months the new shoes

> become old shoes and the cycle repeats itself.

>

> This system is the same one implemented for new coats, sweatshirts,

> jeans, socks, etc.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have lived this one ... Isn't much fun, is it. We put off shoe shopping

for so long that n's toenails began to curve down and poke into his

toes (actually this was quite easy to miss until he started limping a

little, he jumped from size 7 1/2 to 10 in practically no time). Now we

have to watch his feet like a hawk.

(SAHM in GA)

MSN elizabethloht@...

n 32, mo, no formal dx

Phoebe, 7 wks

----- Original Message -----

>

> So after OT, we went to the store.

>

> . And me. At the store. Alone. For shoes.

>

> SHOES.

>

> *sigh*

[Guest guest]

> The next time he needs shoes I am taking his old pair to the store and

> getting the next size bigger. It would be FAR less hassle to return a

pair

> that don't quite fit than go shopping with him again.

>

>

This is exactly how I buy shoes for Putter.

And I seldom have to return them either.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> > floor. There was an employee next to the shoes as we left and

> he gave us

> a

> > filthy look.

>

>

> Screw him. Let him EARN his $10 an hour for once.

Yes, this is what I thought too. =)

If I could have left a tip I would have, but grocery stores don't work that

way, so.

Besides, where was he when I needed help finding size 10 1/2 boy's shoes?

-Sara.

[Guest guest]

That's a great one! Sometimes teenagers are pretty cool.

Penny :-)

Re: Well that was just stupid

A teenage girl's response to an ignorant observer of her cousin: " Too

bad YOUR disability only shows up when you open your mouth! "

Maggie

_

[Guest guest]

Oh Poor Sara.... :-(

I could just picture this.... blech.

Wish we were all closer...

Penny :/

Well that was just stupid

I took to OT alone today as Matt & Gabe were napping. His teacher

mentioned today that he was walking funny and she wondered if his shoes were

bothering him. We had noticed this about 2 weeks ago and intended to get

him new ones, but he has been sick or whatever since then and had not worn

his shoes so we had forgotten, besides just not having gone anywhere.

So after OT, we went to the store.

. And me. At the store. Alone. For shoes.

SHOES.

*sigh*