Re: Andy- chelation & Craniosacral Therapy ?Long

September 22, 2004

Andy,

I was so pleased to see you recommended a craniosacral therapist in the earlier

post. I have been wanting to ask a question, but wasn't sure of your opinion of

CST. We have been getting CST weekly for the past 6 mons for our just turned 3 y

o,asd son. He was lodged facing up for most of my labor (only 5hrs). This was my

first and only pregnancy. Unfortunately I had the epidural and the pitosin, in

addition the doctor was impatient and the nurse confirmed he manually dilated me

twice. The baby dislodged himself and was vaginally delivered 15 min later. All

of this caused sutural compression behind his frontal bone. It was very obvious

in baby pictures and never went away. Now that his fontanel has closed and CST

you can barely feel it. We are going to decrease the CST visits to once a month.

I am considering increasing them again when we start chelation soon. (We just

did a DMSA challenge test.) Would you think it would be a good idea to do CST

during chelation? And would you do it

while using DMSA or only while using ALA?

Thank you, I value your opinion,

andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> wrote:

> Andy,

> I'm not sure if my two deliveries would be considered normal or not. Both of

my babies were large (9lbs, 10oz. and 9lbs., 6 oz.), while I am thin and average

height. I did not have gestational diabetes. The drs. just said that I must be

really healthy to produce such large babies. Both of my babies were induced,

due to being overdue and of suspected large size. With my first (PDD), I was in

labor for two days and almost had a c-section because of " failure to progress " .

He ended up having vacuum suction on his head, which still concerns me very much

as a possible part of his problem (he never regressed).

Find someone who does cranial sacral therapy, or cranial osteopathy and

have him treated. If the vacuum was part of the problem this will fix

it. Takes more or less 6-12 months.

> With my second (NT), I was only in labor for 12 hours, and he was delivered

very easily. I had an epidural with both - something I will not do again. If I

had been allowed to go into labor on my own, the process probably would have

been a lot quicker. I do not plan to be induced again. Thanks!

>

> Jukoski

>

> If you had problems with the last two deliveries we should talk more

> about things, but if they were normal births then it should be OK.

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September 22, 2004

> I was so pleased to see you recommended a craniosacral therapist in the

earlier post. I have been wanting to ask a question, but wasn't sure of your

opinion of CST. We have been getting CST weekly for the past 6 mons for our just

turned 3 y o,asd son. He was lodged facing up for most of my labor (only 5hrs).

This was my first and only pregnancy. Unfortunately I had the epidural and the

pitosin, in addition the doctor was impatient and the nurse confirmed he

manually dilated me twice. The baby dislodged himself and was vaginally

delivered 15 min later. All of this caused sutural compression behind his

frontal bone. It was very obvious in baby pictures and never went away. Now that

his fontanel has closed and CST you can barely feel it. We are going to decrease

the CST visits to once a month. I am considering increasing them again when we

start chelation soon. (We just did a DMSA challenge test.) Would you think it

would be a good idea to do CST during chelation?

I think it is fine. It isn't clear to me how much these interact, if

at all.

I think the big issue is whether the closed fontanel is a problem.

Andy . . . .

September 22, 2004

Andy,

Thank you for responding. I'm sorry, but I read that the fontenal (soft spot on

top, right?) closes or comes together by the age of three. Well, technically

none of the sutures in the human brain should actually be completely closed. It

just looks that way. From my understanding and research it is best to do CST on

a toddler or infant asap if they have had any kind of birth trauma, especially

before the soft spots come together. I guess that was the point I was trying to

make. By the way, the CST came by the day after the DMSA challenge. She was

checking out his liver and other organs. I was not surprised that she said she

noticed alot of activity in the kidneys. I had to laugh a little to myself

because that reflects your information about doing a challence test. That is

only flushes out the metals in the kidneys, but she did not know that. She also

stated that she got a good " release " in his pancreas which he never did before.

Out of curiosity, any connection to the challenge test?

Thanks again,