Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 > Andy, do you remember a paper I sent you that reported a study where DMPS was used to chelate kids with lead poisoning? You said that you thought it was a good study and you were keeping your mind open. Did you find new info that disputed this study? No, I find the results of the study you sent me to conclusively prove that DMPS is not useful for lead chelation. I looked at the data, not the words. The data are clear, compelling, unambiguous, and consistent with the known very low solubility of the DMPS-lead complex. Andy . . . . . . . .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 > I realize the correct answer is counterintuitive - that halving the > dose is useless, but giving the stuff more often (even in a full dose) > usually corrects the problem. > > No matter how you get it into people, you have to give DMPS every 8 > hours or more often. If it takes a long time to absorb (uniknown for > transdermal) then that can be added to 6 to get how long you can have > between doses (that is, injections every 6, eating it every 8 which is > 6 + 2 for how long it takes the intestines to do their thing). > > Andy ./ . . . . .. I am planning to start again the TD DMPS on my son 3 times a day, for 3 days. I am going to do it at the same time I take my own DMPS, I am chelating too. Is anybody using TD DMPS 3 times a day? How is it going? Anybody has had problems with the 48 hour protocol? My son had stopped toewalking and he started again within a couple of days of starting TD DMPS. At the same time, we all got a virus at home, he had some fever and was exhausted, we are not sure what effects are fromm the virus and what from the 48 hour TD DMPS protocol, or even if the virus was made more potent because of the DMPS effects on mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 We are doing 8 hour dosing of TD-DMPS on both of my ASD boys. So far, so good. There were many reports of rashes from other parents a few months ago but this problem seems to have died down. Many have speculated that the cause was a bad batch of the product. Also, a smaller number of parents have reported yeast-like symptoms, although unfortunately no one to my knowledge has done an OAT test during the regression to confirm that yeast is the real cause. I wouldn't worry about the toe-walking. Dr. Buttar claims that for many kids the autistic sympoms get worse in the beginning of the process and then get much better. In any event, you may want to consider discontinuing the chelation until your son is feeling better. Darren > > I realize the correct answer is counterintuitive - that halving the > > dose is useless, but giving the stuff more often (even in a full > dose) > > usually corrects the problem. > > > > No matter how you get it into people, you have to give DMPS every 8 > > hours or more often. If it takes a long time to absorb (uniknown > for > > transdermal) then that can be added to 6 to get how long you can > have > > between doses (that is, injections every 6, eating it every 8 which > is > > 6 + 2 for how long it takes the intestines to do their thing). > > > > Andy ./ . . . . .. > > I am planning to start again the TD DMPS on my son 3 times a day, for > 3 days. I am going to do it at the same time I take my own DMPS, I am > chelating too. > > Is anybody using TD DMPS 3 times a day? How is it going? Anybody has > had problems with the 48 hour protocol? > > My son had stopped toewalking and he started again within a couple of > days of starting TD DMPS. At the same time, we all got a virus at > home, he had some fever and was exhausted, we are not sure what > effects are fromm the virus and what from the 48 hour TD DMPS > protocol, or even if the virus was made more potent because of the > DMPS effects on mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 > I am planning to start again the TD DMPS on my son 3 times a day, It isn't 3 times a day, it is every 8 hours, by the clock. Andy . . . .. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 > > I am planning to start again the TD DMPS on my son 3 times a day, > > It isn't 3 times a day, it is every 8 hours, by the clock. > > Andy . . . .. . Every 8 hours, of course By the clock means that a few minutes off is an issue? Also, I am about to start adding ALA for my own chelation to the DMPS, is it OK to take DMPS with every other ALA dose, that would be DMPS every 6 hours. Is there any problem with this instead of dividing the DMPS caplets adn taking them with every ALA dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 You can also take DMPS every 2 hours with the ALA as far as I know. Dagmar. [ ] Re: TD DMPS and Dr. Buttar > > I am planning to start again the TD DMPS on my son 3 times a day, > > It isn't 3 times a day, it is every 8 hours, by the clock. > > Andy . . . .. . Every 8 hours, of course By the clock means that a few minutes off is an issue? Also, I am about to start adding ALA for my own chelation to the DMPS, is it OK to take DMPS with every other ALA dose, that would be DMPS every 6 hours. Is there any problem with this instead of dividing the DMPS caplets adn taking them with every ALA dose? ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 > You can also take DMPS every 2 hours with the ALA as far as I know. > > Dagmar. Dagmar is correct. You can always give things more often than necessary. It is when you give them less often that trouble occurs. Andy . . . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Sounds like yeast - moving metals = yeast whichever way you do it............... Mandi in UK talked to a mom this weekend who has been doing TD DMPS per Buttar's protocol, and she says his appetite is now poor and he has huge dark blue circles under his eyes. Is this a " normal " side effect that one just works through, or cause to worry? Does TD DMPS on this schedule deplete the body of minerals more severely than other protocols??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 I talked to a mom this weekend who has been doing TD DMPS per Buttar's protocol, and she says his appetite is now poor and he has huge dark blue circles under his eyes. Is this a " normal " side effect that one just works through, or cause to worry? Does TD DMPS on this schedule deplete the body of minerals more severely than other protocols??? Thank you... , mom to and Fw: [ ] Re: TD DMPS and Dr. Buttar > -> > You may have answered this before and I've missed it but what are > your > > views > > > on Dr Buttar's protocol that everyone is so excited about? > > As explained in prior posts I find his reported results unlikely to be > due to chelation alone. > > We'll see how it goes for people, but my basic feeling is that there > are a lot of gullible people who blow with the wind. > > Hopefully it will turn out to be something useful, preliminary reports > are interesting though it really is starting to look like every 8 hour > dosing would be a really really really really good idea, not every > other day. There are enough reports that sound like it is getting > chelator into people, and enough that sound like what happens when you > chelate on a random and inappropriate protocol that I think I would now > encourage people using it to apply it every 8 hours. > > Andy . . . . . .. . . . . . > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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