Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Nice family Mojo and you are a cute girl too. From: Mojo (Joanna) Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 4:07 PM To: LUPIES Subject: To re: pictures Hi , I finally got to take a look at some of the pictures on the picture gallery. Mine seems to be ok with two little details: - the picture " Mojo, hubby & boys, mom & sister " appears twice, but one with My hubby and boys, just the 5 of us is missing. Let me know if you want me to resent that picture. I would really like that one posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 This is 's message from a sometime ago with the address of the website where you can find pictures. Ok guys, I've learned how to put the pictures you've sent me into albums, so make sure you go and check them out!! "The LUPIES online photo albums!" Check out what your fellow Lupies look like...http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=lupies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 The court found there is a reasonable right to privacy once inside a helicopter or ambulance. It doesn't matter, they said, if photos or video was shot while on public property. >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM, in message 44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF41@...>, " Sharp, Barry " barry.sharp@...> wrote: , was that primarily due to the audio of the conversation itself (which does violate patient/provider privacy) or just because there is a general perception of privacy once inside the vehicle? I'm not sure how still photos would have the same effect, particularly if it is in plain sight of the public. (Of course, that's another good reason to always shut the door once the patient is on board.) Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) [mailto:texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com )] On Behalf Of LaChance Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:15 AM To: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) Subject: RE: pictures The only thing I would add to that is that it is a privacy violation to take pictures of you and your patient inside an ambulance (or helicopter - the California Supreme Court in 1998 ruled against the producers of On Scene: Emergency Response for videotaping conversations between a car-accident victim and a nurse on a medical evacuation helicopter.). LaChance, BA, EMT-P Department of Emergency Medicine Education UT Southwestern Medical Center Dallas, TX 75390-8890 >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:06 AM, in message 44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF40@... ( mailto:44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF40%40DSHSEXVS4.dshs.state.tx.us ) >, " Sharp, Barry " barry.sharp@... ( mailto:barry.sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) > wrote: , in a previous life I was the editor of a newspaper and spend many years as the person from the paper covering emergency services...so I have been both the photographer and person selecting the photos that ran. Unless the laws have changed dramatically, the rule of thumb is that if I can see if from the street it's fair game to photograph. If the patient from the Vespa is lying on the sidewalk, I can shoot it. That said, I also have to stay behind what ever barricade/barrier that is in place to keep the public and onlookers out of the way or with the media if they are segregated to a specific area. If I get in the way of the cops/medics/fire then I can suffer the consequences. As a sense of my own morals, I tried to shy away from shooting uncovered dead bodies, anything that shows someone's private parts, patient's faces (particularly if they were critically hurt or mangled) - basically anything that Joe Reader wouldn't want to look at over his morning cereal. That said, anything that I could get that showed the dedication of the rescuers and the drama of the event was good to go as long as I kept the morning cereal reader in mind. Was it a photo that I would mind if the person in it was my wife or child? That may be why I had a great relationship with my emergency services that I worked with and never won a Pulitzer. I would suggest at some point having a sit down with the local editors to see how you can both meet your needs while on the scene. Yours to treat patients with dignity and theirs to cover the events of the day. The trick is to do this in a manner that doesn't violate the other's goals. By having this understanding with those I covered, I was able to get additional access to emergency scenes so that I could tell the story better which also made them look good in the eyes of the public. It's a real trust thing. (And I've seen what happens when it gets violated...the guys with the shields can limit your access - not stop - which makes it a little harder to get the job done.) Just a thought from an old EMT and editor. Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) [mailto:texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com )] On Behalf Of Dublin EMS Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:42 AM To: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) Subject: pictures I know EMS people should follow policy on pictures of EMS incidents. Do we have any control or any concern over pictures taken by law enforcement. For instance, the patient wrecked his Vespa and broke his petulla oblongotta (ask Opie ) while we are taking care of him the police officer walks up with his handy dandy XQ9000 camera phone and takes picture of injury. I seriously doubt the picture is part of any accident investigation process. Do we tackle him and crush his phone, or do we just keep doing our job and let him do whatever he is doing. What about newspaper people, I have threatened them with serious bodily injury before for taking pictures of my patients, but do we have any concerns about non-EMS people photographing our patients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 The court found there is a reasonable right to privacy once inside a helicopter or ambulance. It doesn't matter, they said, if photos or video was shot while on public property. >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM, in message 44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF41@...>, " Sharp, Barry " barry.sharp@...> wrote: , was that primarily due to the audio of the conversation itself (which does violate patient/provider privacy) or just because there is a general perception of privacy once inside the vehicle? I'm not sure how still photos would have the same effect, particularly if it is in plain sight of the public. (Of course, that's another good reason to always shut the door once the patient is on board.) Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) [mailto:texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com )] On Behalf Of LaChance Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:15 AM To: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) Subject: RE: pictures The only thing I would add to that is that it is a privacy violation to take pictures of you and your patient inside an ambulance (or helicopter - the California Supreme Court in 1998 ruled against the producers of On Scene: Emergency Response for videotaping conversations between a car-accident victim and a nurse on a medical evacuation helicopter.). LaChance, BA, EMT-P Department of Emergency Medicine Education UT Southwestern Medical Center Dallas, TX 75390-8890 >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:06 AM, in message 44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF40@... ( mailto:44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF40%40DSHSEXVS4.dshs.state.tx.us ) >, " Sharp, Barry " barry.sharp@... ( mailto:barry.sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) > wrote: , in a previous life I was the editor of a newspaper and spend many years as the person from the paper covering emergency services...so I have been both the photographer and person selecting the photos that ran. Unless the laws have changed dramatically, the rule of thumb is that if I can see if from the street it's fair game to photograph. If the patient from the Vespa is lying on the sidewalk, I can shoot it. That said, I also have to stay behind what ever barricade/barrier that is in place to keep the public and onlookers out of the way or with the media if they are segregated to a specific area. If I get in the way of the cops/medics/fire then I can suffer the consequences. As a sense of my own morals, I tried to shy away from shooting uncovered dead bodies, anything that shows someone's private parts, patient's faces (particularly if they were critically hurt or mangled) - basically anything that Joe Reader wouldn't want to look at over his morning cereal. That said, anything that I could get that showed the dedication of the rescuers and the drama of the event was good to go as long as I kept the morning cereal reader in mind. Was it a photo that I would mind if the person in it was my wife or child? That may be why I had a great relationship with my emergency services that I worked with and never won a Pulitzer. I would suggest at some point having a sit down with the local editors to see how you can both meet your needs while on the scene. Yours to treat patients with dignity and theirs to cover the events of the day. The trick is to do this in a manner that doesn't violate the other's goals. By having this understanding with those I covered, I was able to get additional access to emergency scenes so that I could tell the story better which also made them look good in the eyes of the public. It's a real trust thing. (And I've seen what happens when it gets violated...the guys with the shields can limit your access - not stop - which makes it a little harder to get the job done.) Just a thought from an old EMT and editor. Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) [mailto:texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com )] On Behalf Of Dublin EMS Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:42 AM To: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) Subject: pictures I know EMS people should follow policy on pictures of EMS incidents. Do we have any control or any concern over pictures taken by law enforcement. For instance, the patient wrecked his Vespa and broke his petulla oblongotta (ask Opie ) while we are taking care of him the police officer walks up with his handy dandy XQ9000 camera phone and takes picture of injury. I seriously doubt the picture is part of any accident investigation process. Do we tackle him and crush his phone, or do we just keep doing our job and let him do whatever he is doing. What about newspaper people, I have threatened them with serious bodily injury before for taking pictures of my patients, but do we have any concerns about non-EMS people photographing our patients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 The court found there is a reasonable right to privacy once inside a helicopter or ambulance. It doesn't matter, they said, if photos or video was shot while on public property. >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM, in message 44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF41@...>, " Sharp, Barry " barry.sharp@...> wrote: , was that primarily due to the audio of the conversation itself (which does violate patient/provider privacy) or just because there is a general perception of privacy once inside the vehicle? I'm not sure how still photos would have the same effect, particularly if it is in plain sight of the public. (Of course, that's another good reason to always shut the door once the patient is on board.) Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) [mailto:texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com )] On Behalf Of LaChance Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:15 AM To: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) Subject: RE: pictures The only thing I would add to that is that it is a privacy violation to take pictures of you and your patient inside an ambulance (or helicopter - the California Supreme Court in 1998 ruled against the producers of On Scene: Emergency Response for videotaping conversations between a car-accident victim and a nurse on a medical evacuation helicopter.). LaChance, BA, EMT-P Department of Emergency Medicine Education UT Southwestern Medical Center Dallas, TX 75390-8890 >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:06 AM, in message 44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF40@... ( mailto:44B6C07D1B0F6947853EB1BBED5E9521049EEF40%40DSHSEXVS4.dshs.state.tx.us ) >, " Sharp, Barry " barry.sharp@... ( mailto:barry.sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) > wrote: , in a previous life I was the editor of a newspaper and spend many years as the person from the paper covering emergency services...so I have been both the photographer and person selecting the photos that ran. Unless the laws have changed dramatically, the rule of thumb is that if I can see if from the street it's fair game to photograph. If the patient from the Vespa is lying on the sidewalk, I can shoot it. That said, I also have to stay behind what ever barricade/barrier that is in place to keep the public and onlookers out of the way or with the media if they are segregated to a specific area. If I get in the way of the cops/medics/fire then I can suffer the consequences. As a sense of my own morals, I tried to shy away from shooting uncovered dead bodies, anything that shows someone's private parts, patient's faces (particularly if they were critically hurt or mangled) - basically anything that Joe Reader wouldn't want to look at over his morning cereal. That said, anything that I could get that showed the dedication of the rescuers and the drama of the event was good to go as long as I kept the morning cereal reader in mind. Was it a photo that I would mind if the person in it was my wife or child? That may be why I had a great relationship with my emergency services that I worked with and never won a Pulitzer. I would suggest at some point having a sit down with the local editors to see how you can both meet your needs while on the scene. Yours to treat patients with dignity and theirs to cover the events of the day. The trick is to do this in a manner that doesn't violate the other's goals. By having this understanding with those I covered, I was able to get additional access to emergency scenes so that I could tell the story better which also made them look good in the eyes of the public. It's a real trust thing. (And I've seen what happens when it gets violated...the guys with the shields can limit your access - not stop - which makes it a little harder to get the job done.) Just a thought from an old EMT and editor. Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) ( mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us ) PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) [mailto:texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com )] On Behalf Of Dublin EMS Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:42 AM To: texasems-l ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) ( mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com ) Subject: pictures I know EMS people should follow policy on pictures of EMS incidents. Do we have any control or any concern over pictures taken by law enforcement. For instance, the patient wrecked his Vespa and broke his petulla oblongotta (ask Opie ) while we are taking care of him the police officer walks up with his handy dandy XQ9000 camera phone and takes picture of injury. I seriously doubt the picture is part of any accident investigation process. Do we tackle him and crush his phone, or do we just keep doing our job and let him do whatever he is doing. What about newspaper people, I have threatened them with serious bodily injury before for taking pictures of my patients, but do we have any concerns about non-EMS people photographing our patients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Every Joe and Suzie Blow have a cell phone cam. The internet is chucked full of sites dedicated to necrophilic ghouls sending in photos of mass trauma patients and the dead, and other necrophilic ghouls peeping in on those sites thus keeping them up and going. Most photos are taken right after the incident and before PD, EMS, FD arrive. To me something needs to be done about that---but we all know how difficult something like that would be and how constitutional infringement would be screamed to the rafters. Purveyors of exploitation of those in their greatest hours of need are the ones who enjoy shooting spit wads at the rest of us, then hiding behind Lady Liberty when we hold them to task. -MH ________________________________ From: texasems-l [texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Dublin EMS [dublinems@...] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:42 AM To: texasems-l Subject: pictures I know EMS people should follow policy on pictures of EMS incidents. Do we have any control or any concern over pictures taken by law enforcement. For instance, the patient wrecked his Vespa and broke his petulla oblongotta (ask Opie ) while we are taking care of him the police officer walks up with his handy dandy XQ9000 camera phone and takes picture of injury. I seriously doubt the picture is part of any accident investigation process. Do we tackle him and crush his phone, or do we just keep doing our job and let him do whatever he is doing. What about newspaper people, I have threatened them with serious bodily injury before for taking pictures of my patients, but do we have any concerns about non-EMS people photographing our patients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Every Joe and Suzie Blow have a cell phone cam. The internet is chucked full of sites dedicated to necrophilic ghouls sending in photos of mass trauma patients and the dead, and other necrophilic ghouls peeping in on those sites thus keeping them up and going. Most photos are taken right after the incident and before PD, EMS, FD arrive. To me something needs to be done about that---but we all know how difficult something like that would be and how constitutional infringement would be screamed to the rafters. Purveyors of exploitation of those in their greatest hours of need are the ones who enjoy shooting spit wads at the rest of us, then hiding behind Lady Liberty when we hold them to task. -MH ________________________________ From: texasems-l [texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Dublin EMS [dublinems@...] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:42 AM To: texasems-l Subject: pictures I know EMS people should follow policy on pictures of EMS incidents. Do we have any control or any concern over pictures taken by law enforcement. For instance, the patient wrecked his Vespa and broke his petulla oblongotta (ask Opie ) while we are taking care of him the police officer walks up with his handy dandy XQ9000 camera phone and takes picture of injury. I seriously doubt the picture is part of any accident investigation process. Do we tackle him and crush his phone, or do we just keep doing our job and let him do whatever he is doing. What about newspaper people, I have threatened them with serious bodily injury before for taking pictures of my patients, but do we have any concerns about non-EMS people photographing our patients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Every Joe and Suzie Blow have a cell phone cam. The internet is chucked full of sites dedicated to necrophilic ghouls sending in photos of mass trauma patients and the dead, and other necrophilic ghouls peeping in on those sites thus keeping them up and going. Most photos are taken right after the incident and before PD, EMS, FD arrive. To me something needs to be done about that---but we all know how difficult something like that would be and how constitutional infringement would be screamed to the rafters. Purveyors of exploitation of those in their greatest hours of need are the ones who enjoy shooting spit wads at the rest of us, then hiding behind Lady Liberty when we hold them to task. -MH ________________________________ From: texasems-l [texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Dublin EMS [dublinems@...] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:42 AM To: texasems-l Subject: pictures I know EMS people should follow policy on pictures of EMS incidents. Do we have any control or any concern over pictures taken by law enforcement. For instance, the patient wrecked his Vespa and broke his petulla oblongotta (ask Opie ) while we are taking care of him the police officer walks up with his handy dandy XQ9000 camera phone and takes picture of injury. I seriously doubt the picture is part of any accident investigation process. Do we tackle him and crush his phone, or do we just keep doing our job and let him do whatever he is doing. What about newspaper people, I have threatened them with serious bodily injury before for taking pictures of my patients, but do we have any concerns about non-EMS people photographing our patients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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