Re: Re: For all those who want to speak out against dirty looks in public...

[Guest guest]

hahaha, yes.

did you save a copy of your letter? would you like to share it with us?

~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

-------------------------

gina, 31, ny

single mom to -

kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

[Guest guest]

hahaha, yes.

did you save a copy of your letter? would you like to share it with us?

~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

-------------------------

gina, 31, ny

single mom to -

kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

[Guest guest]

hahaha, yes.

did you save a copy of your letter? would you like to share it with us?

~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

-------------------------

gina, 31, ny

single mom to -

kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

[Guest guest]

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town. While I

agree that our children need to experience, and have the right to experience

everything that other kids do, etc., is it fair to the other diners and our

kids to put them through something that is obviously very difficult if we

don't have to? I think that if there were 3 kids acting this way and the

parents weren't trying " anything " to control them, then they should have

been taken out. Believe me, acts up in restaurants. I KNOW what

it's like No, I don't have 3, but how enjoyable could it have been for the

parents (assuming that the kids were like ours). We DON'T take to

" good " restaurants, and probably won't until he can demonstrate at more

family type ones that he can handle it. Even at the " family " restaurants (a

step or two above Mc's) we leave if he starts yelling real loud. We

can't eat and enjoy it, why should we ruin other people's meals as well?

We just keep on trying, going at slower times, and exposing him, explaining

how he should behave, bringing toys, stuff to do, going to places where we

can walk him around until dinner comes, etc.

Now granted, all this goes out the window when it's Mc's, BK or other

such places where there are other kids, some doing the same thing. :-)

Just my .02. :-)

ellen

Re: For all those who want to speak out against

dirty looks in public...

LOL why not, I'm sure many people have throughout the years. I don't

think she even considered the possibility of disabilities, but I made

sure I wrote a convincing letter you all would be proud of. I just

hope she prints it or one like it.

I guess it would be her daughter print it..

hmm...Dear abby is now the daughter, so dear abby is dear abby..right?

> ack! do you think we're allowed to tell abby to take her advice and

shove it?!

>

>

> ~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

> -------------------------

> gina, 31, ny

> single mom to -

> kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

> trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

> parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town. While I

agree that our children need to experience, and have the right to experience

everything that other kids do, etc., is it fair to the other diners and our

kids to put them through something that is obviously very difficult if we

don't have to? I think that if there were 3 kids acting this way and the

parents weren't trying " anything " to control them, then they should have

been taken out. Believe me, acts up in restaurants. I KNOW what

it's like No, I don't have 3, but how enjoyable could it have been for the

parents (assuming that the kids were like ours). We DON'T take to

" good " restaurants, and probably won't until he can demonstrate at more

family type ones that he can handle it. Even at the " family " restaurants (a

step or two above Mc's) we leave if he starts yelling real loud. We

can't eat and enjoy it, why should we ruin other people's meals as well?

We just keep on trying, going at slower times, and exposing him, explaining

how he should behave, bringing toys, stuff to do, going to places where we

can walk him around until dinner comes, etc.

Now granted, all this goes out the window when it's Mc's, BK or other

such places where there are other kids, some doing the same thing. :-)

Just my .02. :-)

ellen

Re: For all those who want to speak out against

dirty looks in public...

LOL why not, I'm sure many people have throughout the years. I don't

think she even considered the possibility of disabilities, but I made

sure I wrote a convincing letter you all would be proud of. I just

hope she prints it or one like it.

I guess it would be her daughter print it..

hmm...Dear abby is now the daughter, so dear abby is dear abby..right?

> ack! do you think we're allowed to tell abby to take her advice and

shove it?!

>

>

> ~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

> -------------------------

> gina, 31, ny

> single mom to -

> kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

> trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

> parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The problem here is we don't have any idea what they ment by " good "

resturant. LOL! I have lived places that you have resturants like your

fast food type things and then you have what I refer to as nice family

resturants that includes Denny's at the bottom of that list and something

like some of the steakhouses at the top.

Now I live in an area where a " good " resturant is one that you have to make

reservations for and you are not going to eat at for under $70 for two

people.

Around here places like Chili's, Longhorn Steakhouse, Olive Garden, ect. are

considered an alternative to McD's or BK (granted, a litte more costly

alternative) and are very accomidating to familys with children.

I guess it all depends on the perspective. If this was one of those towns

where they consider a " good " resturant one of the nicer family resturants

(there was a time that we called those good resturants. LOL! We call the

Chinese Buffett here a good resturant because the food is good and the kids

like it. ;0) and it isn't " fast food " ) then the way people were acting was

way out of line.

I hope I am making sense with this mad babbling

Georga Hackworth

Men, can't live with them, can't trade them in for their weight in

chocolate.

April is Autism Awareness Month!

Enter to win $50 in free books at www.ubah.com/F1549

Re: For all those who want to speak out

against

> dirty looks in public...

>

>

> LOL why not, I'm sure many people have throughout the years. I don't

> think she even considered the possibility of disabilities, but I made

> sure I wrote a convincing letter you all would be proud of. I just

> hope she prints it or one like it.

> I guess it would be her daughter print it..

>

> hmm...Dear abby is now the daughter, so dear abby is dear abby..right?

>

>

>

>

> > ack! do you think we're allowed to tell abby to take her advice and

> shove it?!

> >

> >

> > ~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

> > -------------------------

> > gina, 31, ny

> > single mom to -

> > kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

> > trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

> > parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> I hope I am making sense with this mad babbling <

well, i understood you, but i think you sounded like i did in my previous reply.

we know what we want to say, we just don't quite know how to say it

~~~ Imagine all the people, living life in peace - Lennon ~~~

-------------------------

gina, 31, ny

single mom to -

kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI

trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet

parker jade, due 7-25-03 :-D

[Guest guest]

>>>>>>>>>

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town.

<<<<<<<<<

ellen -

I started writing a post which pondered the question " Exactly what WAS the

good restaurant? " Was it actually an upscale dining (fine dining) facility

or is it known to the locals as a restaurant with a family atmosphere?

There are no specifics, so it's hard to tell.

My feeling is that we ALL need to be concientious and respectful of other

people. Family restaurants are just that, family restaurants...Should your

kids be running and screaming thru the place? No. Should parents make

attempts to help their children with " restaurant behavior " ? Yes. Should

anyone be forced or asked to leave? No...I dont' believe in that at all.

The main point to this post is that if someone really wants an upscale, no

children, fine dining experience then they need to find someplace that

supports that. I realize not every area has something like that, and if

this town didn't, well, then these people should have expected children to

be there.

We have NEVER taken Jacqui to a fine dining restaurant, or to a place where

we wanted " quiet time " . That doesn't make any sense. We do take her to

other restaurants, and as you said, supply plenty of things to amuse her and

work on teaching her " restaurant behavior " .

A kid is a kid... they are going to act like kids.

Penny

[Guest guest]

You make perfect sense to me...

Penny :-D

Re: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

The problem here is we don't have any idea what they ment by " good "

resturant. LOL! I have lived places that you have resturants like your

fast food type things and then you have what I refer to as nice family

resturants that includes Denny's at the bottom of that list and something

like some of the steakhouses at the top.

Now I live in an area where a " good " resturant is one that you have to make

reservations for and you are not going to eat at for under $70 for two

people.

Around here places like Chili's, Longhorn Steakhouse, Olive Garden, ect. are

considered an alternative to McD's or BK (granted, a litte more costly

alternative) and are very accomidating to familys with children.

I guess it all depends on the perspective. If this was one of those towns

where they consider a " good " resturant one of the nicer family resturants

(there was a time that we called those good resturants. LOL! We call the

Chinese Buffett here a good resturant because the food is good and the kids

like it. ;0) and it isn't " fast food " ) then the way people were acting was

way out of line.

I hope I am making sense with this mad babbling

Georga Hackworth

[Guest guest]

You make perfect sense to me...

Penny :-D

Re: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

The problem here is we don't have any idea what they ment by " good "

resturant. LOL! I have lived places that you have resturants like your

fast food type things and then you have what I refer to as nice family

resturants that includes Denny's at the bottom of that list and something

like some of the steakhouses at the top.

Now I live in an area where a " good " resturant is one that you have to make

reservations for and you are not going to eat at for under $70 for two

people.

Around here places like Chili's, Longhorn Steakhouse, Olive Garden, ect. are

considered an alternative to McD's or BK (granted, a litte more costly

alternative) and are very accomidating to familys with children.

I guess it all depends on the perspective. If this was one of those towns

where they consider a " good " resturant one of the nicer family resturants

(there was a time that we called those good resturants. LOL! We call the

Chinese Buffett here a good resturant because the food is good and the kids

like it. ;0) and it isn't " fast food " ) then the way people were acting was

way out of line.

I hope I am making sense with this mad babbling

Georga Hackworth

[Guest guest]

You make perfect sense to me...

Penny :-D

Re: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

The problem here is we don't have any idea what they ment by " good "

resturant. LOL! I have lived places that you have resturants like your

fast food type things and then you have what I refer to as nice family

resturants that includes Denny's at the bottom of that list and something

like some of the steakhouses at the top.

Now I live in an area where a " good " resturant is one that you have to make

reservations for and you are not going to eat at for under $70 for two

people.

Around here places like Chili's, Longhorn Steakhouse, Olive Garden, ect. are

considered an alternative to McD's or BK (granted, a litte more costly

alternative) and are very accomidating to familys with children.

I guess it all depends on the perspective. If this was one of those towns

where they consider a " good " resturant one of the nicer family resturants

(there was a time that we called those good resturants. LOL! We call the

Chinese Buffett here a good resturant because the food is good and the kids

like it. ;0) and it isn't " fast food " ) then the way people were acting was

way out of line.

I hope I am making sense with this mad babbling

Georga Hackworth

[Guest guest]

Then something is wrong. I don't make sense to often. LOL!

Georga Hackworth

Men, can't live with them, can't trade them in for their weight in

chocolate.

April is Autism Awareness Month!

Enter to win $50 in free books at www.ubah.com/F1549

Re: Re: For all those who want to speak out

> against dirty looks in public...

>

>

> The problem here is we don't have any idea what they ment by " good "

> resturant. LOL! I have lived places that you have resturants like your

> fast food type things and then you have what I refer to as nice family

> resturants that includes Denny's at the bottom of that list and something

> like some of the steakhouses at the top.

>

> Now I live in an area where a " good " resturant is one that you have to

make

> reservations for and you are not going to eat at for under $70 for two

> people.

>

> Around here places like Chili's, Longhorn Steakhouse, Olive Garden, ect.

are

> considered an alternative to McD's or BK (granted, a litte more costly

> alternative) and are very accomidating to familys with children.

>

> I guess it all depends on the perspective. If this was one of those towns

> where they consider a " good " resturant one of the nicer family resturants

> (there was a time that we called those good resturants. LOL! We call the

> Chinese Buffett here a good resturant because the food is good and the

kids

> like it. ;0) and it isn't " fast food " ) then the way people were acting

was

> way out of line.

>

> I hope I am making sense with this mad babbling

>

> Georga Hackworth

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We do not go to restaurants good or otherwise, except for Mc's which

serves the only restaurant food that Putter eats.

I am sure that one day we will need to work on the restaurant experience

with Putter as a part of life, but I shudder to think of it now.

Salli

[Guest guest]

We do not go to restaurants good or otherwise, except for Mc's which

serves the only restaurant food that Putter eats.

I am sure that one day we will need to work on the restaurant experience

with Putter as a part of life, but I shudder to think of it now.

Salli

[Guest guest]

Yup. I gotta agree with all of this.

Jacquie H

RE: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

>>>>>>>>>

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town.

<<<<<<<<<

ellen -

I started writing a post which pondered the question " Exactly what WAS the

good restaurant? " Was it actually an upscale dining (fine dining) facility

or is it known to the locals as a restaurant with a family atmosphere?

There are no specifics, so it's hard to tell.

My feeling is that we ALL need to be concientious and respectful of other

people. Family restaurants are just that, family restaurants...Should your

kids be running and screaming thru the place? No. Should parents make

attempts to help their children with " restaurant behavior " ? Yes. Should

anyone be forced or asked to leave? No...I dont' believe in that at all.

The main point to this post is that if someone really wants an upscale, no

children, fine dining experience then they need to find someplace that

supports that. I realize not every area has something like that, and if

this town didn't, well, then these people should have expected children to

be there.

We have NEVER taken Jacqui to a fine dining restaurant, or to a place where

we wanted " quiet time " . That doesn't make any sense. We do take her to

other restaurants, and as you said, supply plenty of things to amuse her and

work on teaching her " restaurant behavior " .

A kid is a kid... they are going to act like kids.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Yup. I gotta agree with all of this.

Jacquie H

RE: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

>>>>>>>>>

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town.

<<<<<<<<<

ellen -

I started writing a post which pondered the question " Exactly what WAS the

good restaurant? " Was it actually an upscale dining (fine dining) facility

or is it known to the locals as a restaurant with a family atmosphere?

There are no specifics, so it's hard to tell.

My feeling is that we ALL need to be concientious and respectful of other

people. Family restaurants are just that, family restaurants...Should your

kids be running and screaming thru the place? No. Should parents make

attempts to help their children with " restaurant behavior " ? Yes. Should

anyone be forced or asked to leave? No...I dont' believe in that at all.

The main point to this post is that if someone really wants an upscale, no

children, fine dining experience then they need to find someplace that

supports that. I realize not every area has something like that, and if

this town didn't, well, then these people should have expected children to

be there.

We have NEVER taken Jacqui to a fine dining restaurant, or to a place where

we wanted " quiet time " . That doesn't make any sense. We do take her to

other restaurants, and as you said, supply plenty of things to amuse her and

work on teaching her " restaurant behavior " .

A kid is a kid... they are going to act like kids.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Yup. I gotta agree with all of this.

Jacquie H

RE: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

>>>>>>>>>

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town.

<<<<<<<<<

ellen -

I started writing a post which pondered the question " Exactly what WAS the

good restaurant? " Was it actually an upscale dining (fine dining) facility

or is it known to the locals as a restaurant with a family atmosphere?

There are no specifics, so it's hard to tell.

My feeling is that we ALL need to be concientious and respectful of other

people. Family restaurants are just that, family restaurants...Should your

kids be running and screaming thru the place? No. Should parents make

attempts to help their children with " restaurant behavior " ? Yes. Should

anyone be forced or asked to leave? No...I dont' believe in that at all.

The main point to this post is that if someone really wants an upscale, no

children, fine dining experience then they need to find someplace that

supports that. I realize not every area has something like that, and if

this town didn't, well, then these people should have expected children to

be there.

We have NEVER taken Jacqui to a fine dining restaurant, or to a place where

we wanted " quiet time " . That doesn't make any sense. We do take her to

other restaurants, and as you said, supply plenty of things to amuse her and

work on teaching her " restaurant behavior " .

A kid is a kid... they are going to act like kids.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Yup, I agree too!

ellen

Re: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

Yup. I gotta agree with all of this.

Jacquie H

RE: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

>>>>>>>>>

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here

goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town.

<<<<<<<<<

ellen -

I started writing a post which pondered the question " Exactly what WAS

the

good restaurant? " Was it actually an upscale dining (fine dining)

facility

or is it known to the locals as a restaurant with a family atmosphere?

There are no specifics, so it's hard to tell.

My feeling is that we ALL need to be concientious and respectful of

other

people. Family restaurants are just that, family restaurants...Should

your

kids be running and screaming thru the place? No. Should parents make

attempts to help their children with " restaurant behavior " ? Yes. Should

anyone be forced or asked to leave? No...I dont' believe in that at

all.

The main point to this post is that if someone really wants an upscale,

no

children, fine dining experience then they need to find someplace that

supports that. I realize not every area has something like that, and if

this town didn't, well, then these people should have expected children

to

be there.

We have NEVER taken Jacqui to a fine dining restaurant, or to a place

where

we wanted " quiet time " . That doesn't make any sense. We do take her to

other restaurants, and as you said, supply plenty of things to amuse her

and

work on teaching her " restaurant behavior " .

A kid is a kid... they are going to act like kids.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Yup, I agree too!

ellen

Re: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

Yup. I gotta agree with all of this.

Jacquie H

RE: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

>>>>>>>>>

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here

goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town.

<<<<<<<<<

ellen -

I started writing a post which pondered the question " Exactly what WAS

the

good restaurant? " Was it actually an upscale dining (fine dining)

facility

or is it known to the locals as a restaurant with a family atmosphere?

There are no specifics, so it's hard to tell.

My feeling is that we ALL need to be concientious and respectful of

other

people. Family restaurants are just that, family restaurants...Should

your

kids be running and screaming thru the place? No. Should parents make

attempts to help their children with " restaurant behavior " ? Yes. Should

anyone be forced or asked to leave? No...I dont' believe in that at

all.

The main point to this post is that if someone really wants an upscale,

no

children, fine dining experience then they need to find someplace that

supports that. I realize not every area has something like that, and if

this town didn't, well, then these people should have expected children

to

be there.

We have NEVER taken Jacqui to a fine dining restaurant, or to a place

where

we wanted " quiet time " . That doesn't make any sense. We do take her to

other restaurants, and as you said, supply plenty of things to amuse her

and

work on teaching her " restaurant behavior " .

A kid is a kid... they are going to act like kids.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Yup, I agree too!

ellen

Re: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

Yup. I gotta agree with all of this.

Jacquie H

RE: Re: For all those who want to speak out

against dirty looks in public...

>>>>>>>>>

Okay, I know that some of you aren't going to agree with this, but here

goes

anyway.

The letter did say that it was the only " good " restaurant in town.

<<<<<<<<<

ellen -

I started writing a post which pondered the question " Exactly what WAS

the

good restaurant? " Was it actually an upscale dining (fine dining)

facility

or is it known to the locals as a restaurant with a family atmosphere?

There are no specifics, so it's hard to tell.

My feeling is that we ALL need to be concientious and respectful of

other

people. Family restaurants are just that, family restaurants...Should

your

kids be running and screaming thru the place? No. Should parents make

attempts to help their children with " restaurant behavior " ? Yes. Should

anyone be forced or asked to leave? No...I dont' believe in that at

all.

The main point to this post is that if someone really wants an upscale,

no

children, fine dining experience then they need to find someplace that

supports that. I realize not every area has something like that, and if

this town didn't, well, then these people should have expected children

to

be there.

We have NEVER taken Jacqui to a fine dining restaurant, or to a place

where

we wanted " quiet time " . That doesn't make any sense. We do take her to

other restaurants, and as you said, supply plenty of things to amuse her

and

work on teaching her " restaurant behavior " .

A kid is a kid... they are going to act like kids.

Penny

[Guest guest]

Wow.

Around here they practically tackle you to let them take the groceries out

for you....

Penny

>>>>>>>>>

At the grocery store the other day I had to pick up some beer for my

brother. Well I had two cases and a bottle of peppermint. The

grocery store we go to still carries your groceries out to your car

for you.

[Guest guest]

Wow.

Around here they practically tackle you to let them take the groceries out

for you....

Penny

>>>>>>>>>

At the grocery store the other day I had to pick up some beer for my

brother. Well I had two cases and a bottle of peppermint. The

grocery store we go to still carries your groceries out to your car

for you.

[Guest guest]

how rude! i know at our local safeway it is policy that they offer you a

courtesy carry out no matter what - they have to offer. i have gone in to buy

a head of garlic and been asked " would you like a hand out with that? " sounds

liek a couple of pathetic lazy-ass employees. btw - same goes here - i would

never dream of letting go of rowan's hand in a parking lot.

M.G.mum to

Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

married to and living in Northern Ontario

[Guest guest]

how rude! i know at our local safeway it is policy that they offer you a

courtesy carry out no matter what - they have to offer. i have gone in to buy

a head of garlic and been asked " would you like a hand out with that? " sounds

liek a couple of pathetic lazy-ass employees. btw - same goes here - i would

never dream of letting go of rowan's hand in a parking lot.

M.G.mum to

Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

married to and living in Northern Ontario

[Guest guest]

how rude! i know at our local safeway it is policy that they offer you a

courtesy carry out no matter what - they have to offer. i have gone in to buy

a head of garlic and been asked " would you like a hand out with that? " sounds

liek a couple of pathetic lazy-ass employees. btw - same goes here - i would

never dream of letting go of rowan's hand in a parking lot.

M.G.mum to

Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

married to and living in Northern Ontario