RE: arrgghhuurrgghblahhhhhh

[Guest guest]

That's so great.

My son, , is really smart. He is amazingly smart. He got the form awards

every year (top student) in his school in England. He sort of has a

photographic memory. You can't believe the things he knows.

Anyway, since he's been at this jr high, his grades have slipped (he used to

always get straight A's, now he's getting B's - not bad I know) but, it's

because he's bored, and hates the school. He really really HATES it.

He thinks most of his teachers shouldn't even be teachers. One in particular,

spends most of the class time talking about things that have nothing to do with

the subject he's suppose to be teaching. Then he spends the other half talking

about his baby. says he's learning NOTHING. It's a joke.

spends a lot of his spare time learning things that aren't taught at

school. The stuff at school is like reading a kindergarten book to him. He

really is bored and hates it.

(did I get that point across?) I can't say it enough.

Anyway, he's got to do one more year of jr high. If we decide to get

into this program, maybe will want to do it as well. He misses a lot of

school to due to terrible allergies, and migraines. I also worry that things

may start to get worse for him, cause he's often complaining of knee pain. He's

hypermobile too. I'm worried that EDS is sneaking up on him too. It would be

such a relief to not have to worry about the damn schools on top of everything

else.

You know. I don't know why I keep repeating myself!

lol

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

That's so great.

My son, , is really smart. He is amazingly smart. He got the form awards

every year (top student) in his school in England. He sort of has a

photographic memory. You can't believe the things he knows.

Anyway, since he's been at this jr high, his grades have slipped (he used to

always get straight A's, now he's getting B's - not bad I know) but, it's

because he's bored, and hates the school. He really really HATES it.

He thinks most of his teachers shouldn't even be teachers. One in particular,

spends most of the class time talking about things that have nothing to do with

the subject he's suppose to be teaching. Then he spends the other half talking

about his baby. says he's learning NOTHING. It's a joke.

spends a lot of his spare time learning things that aren't taught at

school. The stuff at school is like reading a kindergarten book to him. He

really is bored and hates it.

(did I get that point across?) I can't say it enough.

Anyway, he's got to do one more year of jr high. If we decide to get

into this program, maybe will want to do it as well. He misses a lot of

school to due to terrible allergies, and migraines. I also worry that things

may start to get worse for him, cause he's often complaining of knee pain. He's

hypermobile too. I'm worried that EDS is sneaking up on him too. It would be

such a relief to not have to worry about the damn schools on top of everything

else.

You know. I don't know why I keep repeating myself!

lol

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

Your - reminds me of my lil Angel in Heaven ^&^- he too was one of those

fast learners- photographic memory, heck he started out talking even around 9

months.... He was so bored in classes- the teachers would use him to help other

students........ I finally talked to a few of them and they told me to have him

be skipped a grade....... and you know - as scarey as that move was- it was the

best move for him........... he finally was able to be challenged some- he still

got straight A's but he was not so bored.

Definitely does make a huge difference if the student is not interested in a

subject....... LOL- one of my college teachers did that........... she came

bopping in with a pony tail directly on the top and middle of her hair, chewing

gum and making us ( adults ) sit thru her hair flip flop - chewing gum sessions

of reading what we could ummmmmmmm read for ourselves.........

I pray doesnt get the EDS as well - but you are right- it is a relief, to

not have to worry about the schools- transportation, a forgotten book, test-

etc....... its like having a family again without the mess from school - plus- I

do honestly believe they learn more this way....... I mean - wow - s grades

went from D's and E's to A's , B's and C's ...... Never thought Id see that

day......... Hes smart- just has no umpfh - so when forced- and has time limits-

that puts even trying for a good grade right down the drain....... By the way

these tests are not time based...........

If the page is up , they can , if they get frustrated trying to find an answer-

go take a brisk walk , etc.......... and go back at it later........... can't do

that in school...

I have taken a few online courses myself and love them.

Wishing you the best of luck and remember - feel free to e-mail me- off group

too whenever you want.

Hugs- TJ

( This would take so much off your shoulders )

That's so great.

My son, , is really smart. He is amazingly smart. He got the form

awards every year (top student) in his school in England. He sort of has a

photographic memory. You can't believe the things he knows.

Anyway, since he's been at this jr high, his grades have slipped (he used to

always get straight A's, now he's getting B's - not bad I know) but, it's

because he's bored, and hates the school. He really really HATES it.

He thinks most of his teachers shouldn't even be teachers. One in particular,

spends most of the class time talking about things that have nothing to do with

the subject he's suppose to be teaching. Then he spends the other half talking

about his baby. says he's learning NOTHING. It's a joke.

spends a lot of his spare time learning things that aren't taught at

school. The stuff at school is like reading a kindergarten book to him. He

really is bored and hates it.

(did I get that point across?) I can't say it enough.

Anyway, he's got to do one more year of jr high. If we decide to get

into this program, maybe will want to do it as well. He misses a lot of

school to due to terrible allergies, and migraines. I also worry that things

may start to get worse for him, cause he's often complaining of knee pain. He's

hypermobile too. I'm worried that EDS is sneaking up on him too. It would be

such a relief to not have to worry about the damn schools on top of everything

else.

You know. I don't know why I keep repeating myself!

lol

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

Your - reminds me of my lil Angel in Heaven ^&^- he too was one of those

fast learners- photographic memory, heck he started out talking even around 9

months.... He was so bored in classes- the teachers would use him to help other

students........ I finally talked to a few of them and they told me to have him

be skipped a grade....... and you know - as scarey as that move was- it was the

best move for him........... he finally was able to be challenged some- he still

got straight A's but he was not so bored.

Definitely does make a huge difference if the student is not interested in a

subject....... LOL- one of my college teachers did that........... she came

bopping in with a pony tail directly on the top and middle of her hair, chewing

gum and making us ( adults ) sit thru her hair flip flop - chewing gum sessions

of reading what we could ummmmmmmm read for ourselves.........

I pray doesnt get the EDS as well - but you are right- it is a relief, to

not have to worry about the schools- transportation, a forgotten book, test-

etc....... its like having a family again without the mess from school - plus- I

do honestly believe they learn more this way....... I mean - wow - s grades

went from D's and E's to A's , B's and C's ...... Never thought Id see that

day......... Hes smart- just has no umpfh - so when forced- and has time limits-

that puts even trying for a good grade right down the drain....... By the way

these tests are not time based...........

If the page is up , they can , if they get frustrated trying to find an answer-

go take a brisk walk , etc.......... and go back at it later........... can't do

that in school...

I have taken a few online courses myself and love them.

Wishing you the best of luck and remember - feel free to e-mail me- off group

too whenever you want.

Hugs- TJ

( This would take so much off your shoulders )

That's so great.

My son, , is really smart. He is amazingly smart. He got the form

awards every year (top student) in his school in England. He sort of has a

photographic memory. You can't believe the things he knows.

Anyway, since he's been at this jr high, his grades have slipped (he used to

always get straight A's, now he's getting B's - not bad I know) but, it's

because he's bored, and hates the school. He really really HATES it.

He thinks most of his teachers shouldn't even be teachers. One in particular,

spends most of the class time talking about things that have nothing to do with

the subject he's suppose to be teaching. Then he spends the other half talking

about his baby. says he's learning NOTHING. It's a joke.

spends a lot of his spare time learning things that aren't taught at

school. The stuff at school is like reading a kindergarten book to him. He

really is bored and hates it.

(did I get that point across?) I can't say it enough.

Anyway, he's got to do one more year of jr high. If we decide to get

into this program, maybe will want to do it as well. He misses a lot of

school to due to terrible allergies, and migraines. I also worry that things

may start to get worse for him, cause he's often complaining of knee pain. He's

hypermobile too. I'm worried that EDS is sneaking up on him too. It would be

such a relief to not have to worry about the damn schools on top of everything

else.

You know. I don't know why I keep repeating myself!

lol

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

Your - reminds me of my lil Angel in Heaven ^&^- he too was one of those

fast learners- photographic memory, heck he started out talking even around 9

months.... He was so bored in classes- the teachers would use him to help other

students........ I finally talked to a few of them and they told me to have him

be skipped a grade....... and you know - as scarey as that move was- it was the

best move for him........... he finally was able to be challenged some- he still

got straight A's but he was not so bored.

Definitely does make a huge difference if the student is not interested in a

subject....... LOL- one of my college teachers did that........... she came

bopping in with a pony tail directly on the top and middle of her hair, chewing

gum and making us ( adults ) sit thru her hair flip flop - chewing gum sessions

of reading what we could ummmmmmmm read for ourselves.........

I pray doesnt get the EDS as well - but you are right- it is a relief, to

not have to worry about the schools- transportation, a forgotten book, test-

etc....... its like having a family again without the mess from school - plus- I

do honestly believe they learn more this way....... I mean - wow - s grades

went from D's and E's to A's , B's and C's ...... Never thought Id see that

day......... Hes smart- just has no umpfh - so when forced- and has time limits-

that puts even trying for a good grade right down the drain....... By the way

these tests are not time based...........

If the page is up , they can , if they get frustrated trying to find an answer-

go take a brisk walk , etc.......... and go back at it later........... can't do

that in school...

I have taken a few online courses myself and love them.

Wishing you the best of luck and remember - feel free to e-mail me- off group

too whenever you want.

Hugs- TJ

( This would take so much off your shoulders )

That's so great.

My son, , is really smart. He is amazingly smart. He got the form

awards every year (top student) in his school in England. He sort of has a

photographic memory. You can't believe the things he knows.

Anyway, since he's been at this jr high, his grades have slipped (he used to

always get straight A's, now he's getting B's - not bad I know) but, it's

because he's bored, and hates the school. He really really HATES it.

He thinks most of his teachers shouldn't even be teachers. One in particular,

spends most of the class time talking about things that have nothing to do with

the subject he's suppose to be teaching. Then he spends the other half talking

about his baby. says he's learning NOTHING. It's a joke.

spends a lot of his spare time learning things that aren't taught at

school. The stuff at school is like reading a kindergarten book to him. He

really is bored and hates it.

(did I get that point across?) I can't say it enough.

Anyway, he's got to do one more year of jr high. If we decide to get

into this program, maybe will want to do it as well. He misses a lot of

school to due to terrible allergies, and migraines. I also worry that things

may start to get worse for him, cause he's often complaining of knee pain. He's

hypermobile too. I'm worried that EDS is sneaking up on him too. It would be

such a relief to not have to worry about the damn schools on top of everything

else.

You know. I don't know why I keep repeating myself!

lol

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks so much.

I don't know what I'm gonna do.

I hope doesn't continue to have these health issues too. He's the

healthiest of us all, except for dad.

It mainly his allergies that cause him so much trouble. And, people may not

believe it, but hay fever, as bad as he has it, can make a person VERY

miserable.

If your son was anything like my , he must have been a wonderful kid.

Big hugs,

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks so much.

I don't know what I'm gonna do.

I hope doesn't continue to have these health issues too. He's the

healthiest of us all, except for dad.

It mainly his allergies that cause him so much trouble. And, people may not

believe it, but hay fever, as bad as he has it, can make a person VERY

miserable.

If your son was anything like my , he must have been a wonderful kid.

Big hugs,

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks a lot.

Like Isaid, I don't know what's gonna happen. I so want to take them out of the

school, but I have to have their cooperation. I don't want to do that if they

really don't want to.

I'll keep you all updated on what happens.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks a lot.

Like Isaid, I don't know what's gonna happen. I so want to take them out of the

school, but I have to have their cooperation. I don't want to do that if they

really don't want to.

I'll keep you all updated on what happens.

[Guest guest]

Hi : Just wanted to applaud your decision to withdraw your boys

from school. As a veteran of the school wars, I and my daughter now

realize how much those years scared and traumatised us both. It is

interesting that even though you have a diagnosis for your boys, you

obviously have had huge difficulty getting accommodations implemented

adequately...been there, done that although we did not have the EDS

diagnosis. Because the school environment is such a competitive one and

so many many kids can be jerks with others who have co-ordination

problems it is exceedingly difficult for parents and kids.

I know of one mother (son with Fibromyalgia, Poss EDS, Ottawa) who

joined a parent home schooling group and found it somewhat helpful in

providing social contact for her son and support in the schooling. At

least the boys have each other.

Keep up the effort.

Bernie,

Toronto, Can, EDS, OI, POTS

Re: arrgghhuurrgghblahhhhhh

Hi ,

I have been quiet on the list lately but reading your story with

interest as

we deal with similar issues for my sons.

It sounds like you may need to consult the Home School Legal Defense

Association. This is one of the USA links I found on google:

HSLDA | Home School Legal Defense Association: Homeschooling in ...

.... Site Copyright 1996-2004 Home School Legal Defense Association PO

Box

3000 .

Purcellville, VA 20134-9000 . Phone: . Fax: (540)

338-2733

....

www.hslda.org/ - 74k - 17 Mar 2004 - Cached - Similar pages

We have recently made the decision to withdraw both of our children from

school due numerous problems, lack of under standing, physical

accomodations, bullying, lack of continuity due to medical absences...

the

list could go on for ages. After 4.5 years of try to partner, educate

and

advocate at the school, school board level and the ministry of education

(I

am in Ontario) I have decided to stop banging my head against the wall

fighting the things I can not change.

I have such a sense of peace now as we settle into homeschooling. The

boys

are happier and less stressed. Both are acomplishing more than they had

in

school.

Taking care of yourself and your family comes before the need to satisfy

bureacrats who do understand the situation.

Take care,

C.

Ontario

To learn more about EDS, visit our website: http://www.ceda.ca

[Guest guest]

Hi Bernie,

We actually had a lot of accomodations at school but not enough. The O.T.'s

have recommended height adjustable desk for years to accomodate wheelchairs

which have not been allowed in the classroom in the last 3 years. The

handwriting assessment from Bloorview made additional equipment

recomendations that were never acted on.

The boys also have latex allergies which have been a nightmare to educate

school staff on. I gave up 2 weeks ago when the principal sent a letter

home asking for rubber balls to be sent in for recess as the school could

not afford outdoor play equipment.

Both boys are also gifted which seems to be difficult for the school to deal

with. It would seem that kids with physical disabilities shouldn't be

bright.

....sorry I'm on a rant ... I will try to stop now...

I have joined the local home school association and have found many great

resources to use. I have also found a surprising sense of peace since

making my decision. I have had a great sense of relief as I pulled down the

school calendar etc.

We are finding lots to learn, celebrate and enjoy these days.

C.

Guelph, Ontario

P.S. We are back in T.O. on April 7 and 30.

[Guest guest]

Boy, I gotta get in on this.

Disabled kids not bright? HA!! Just look at Hawking. He's about as

disabled as they come. And, he's a genius!

Oh, people piss me off!

I am so disgusted with the schools now.

I can't get through to 's school to save my life.

They just don't care.

And her keyboarding teacher - uugghh! She is awful! She writes me nasty

e-mails about how sitting properly won't cause injuries, and that is

expected to sit the way she tells her to.

I sent her the letter from the dr, the letter from Barb, and some other info,

but she just doesn't care. Proper posture is 20% of her grade. It's just not

right. At least the school nurse is on my side. She said she was gonna have a

talk with this teacher. Oh, I hope she does, and I hope something gets through.

I'm so mad at the school, I just don't know what to say anymore. I want to go

and slap that keyboarding teacher. I want to go and scream at the principal.

But, that's not gonna do any good.

I think they don't believe that has any disability at all, cause she

doesn't look sick. Isn't that a problem for all of us?

The schools spend all their time and money on the kids that are trouble makers.

Just now, in my school district, there is a huge law suit going on, and the

NAACP is in on it. Apparently, the security guards " manhandled " a few girls who

were fighting in the hallways. They had to break up their fight, and put them

in handcuffs. Well, if you ask me, if those girls can't control themselves and

act properly, they shouldn't even be in the school. They should kick them out,

and spend their time and money on the kids who want to learn and behave. But,

we can't do that.

I know, that sounds horrible, but I'm fed up. My daughter is a good girl who

wants to learn, and they won't lift a finger to help her.

It makes me so mad.

I want to home school her, and she is up for it, but she really wants to go to

the high school next year. She wants to take advantage of the great elective

classes they offer. I heard I can home school her, and just enroll her in the

high school for a couple classes. Do you know anything about that?

I gotta stop thinking and talking about the schools. It's stressing me out. I

know how you feel when you took the school calendar down. Now that is

out of that school, our stress level has lowered. 's stress is almost

gone.

Now, I just gotta deal with 's school. Everyone I've heard from here on

this board, and through the people at the home school support group here

locally, have said the relief they all feel is tremendous. And, their kids are

learning more, and much, much happier.

It sounds like the way to go. They make it so easy now. I thought it would be

too hard to do, but now I'm learning it's not.

Oh, if I don't stop now, I'm gonna start complaining again, and I don't want to

do that.

Hugs,