Re: HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD daughter.

[Guest guest]

Margaret,

Thanks for your response. What is coromega cream? I have not had her tested

for anything but IG tests through the allergist/infectious disease

specialist we took her to in October. I will have her tested soon and I will

get tested too. My mother\'s family is full of autoimmune disorders (MS,

Lupus, Scleroderma, and allergies) and plenty of disorders linked to metals

issues. Do you know any other foods that are high in copper she should

avoid besides chocolate? She had chocolate flavored Rice Dream ice cream

before bed last Monday and had her worst day of school in ages the next day.

I will check the Pfeiffer website. Thanks.

Dawn Schaller

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From: igorginzburg imginzburg@...

Subject: [ ] Re: HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD

daughter.

Date Sent: 01/31/04 8:12 am

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Dawn,

my daughter also had some compliance/attention issues at school, but

they seem to get better if I give her zinc, omega 3 acids and

probiotics. I use Kirkman\'s zinc, and mix it together with

probiotics into her yoghurt. Coromega cream has good taste, and she

does not mind eating it. Problems arise immediately if she eats some

copper food, for example chocolate, so I try not to give it to her.

Do not let the school medicate your child. Many people have some

degree of ADHD and it does not prevent them from being successful in

life. I, for example, recently checked the symptoms and found that I

have them all, but I never was diagnosed with anything! I believe

that ADHD is a mild problem comparing to autism and can be corrected

with supplements. Check the Pfeiffer center website www.hriptc.org .

I would contact some DAN! doctor(better M.D.), or Pfeiffer center,

for the case that if the school will insist on medication, you will

be able to say that her doctor advises against it.

Do you have her hair test? Does it show a problem with mercury, or

copper, or something else?

Margaret

> > I have posted before, but would appreciate input from anyone who

> has

> > a recommendation for how we should be proceeding with what is

>

> > happening with and to my 6 yr old daughter in first grade.

> >

> > This past October she was diagnosed as ADHD and ODD.  The

behaviors

> > have been there since she was a toddler, but her regular

> pediatrician

> > said to wait until 1st grade to have her evaluated.  She has ha

d

> > longstanding chronic yeast infections since infancy and she has

 

> > masturbated to relieve the discomfort for over 4 years now.  We

> have

> > tried to break her of that \ " habit\ " since it began, to

no

avail. 

> She

> > has been on anti-fungal medications through her pediatrician at

BR>

> least

> > a dozen times, and we have had to apply topical anti-fungal

cream

> to

> > her vaginal area almost non-stop since she was three years old.

 

My

> > husband did not want her on mind altering drugs like Ritalin

under

> > any circumstances, so I began my internet and book research to

R>

> > alternative treatments for ADHD. The pediatrician in the office

BR>

who

> > specializes in ADHD kids wanted to begin with drug therapy.  He

> said

> > that nutritional supplementation and diet is pointless and

proven

> to

> > be ineffective in treating just about any disease besides

rickets. 

> > We took her to an allergist/infectious disease specialist to

> > determine why she has the yeast infections.  That showed she is

> > allergic to yeasts and mold and slightly allergic to wheat.  My

> > research led me to likely mercury and lead issues, probable gut

BR>

> > dysbiosis, and nutritional deficiencies in her.  I began

> nutritional

> > supplementation, a diet with no yeast, molds, gluten, casein

> (milk),

> > chocolate, food colors, preservatives, sugar, nitrates/nitrites,

> etc.

> > and non-prescription treatment of her yeast infections and

likely

> > clostridia issues.  When I told the school what I was doing the

y

> > looked at me like I had just told them I was making her sleep

>

> upside

> > down and eat bat guano for meals...  They had never heard of

R>

this

> > protocol for treating ADHD and thought we were just dishing out

BR>

> cruel

> > and unusual punishment of a small child.  

> >

> > I received progressively positive notes from her teacher since

R>

mid-

> > November with a few \ " oops\ " behavior issues and contin

ued, but

> > somewhat better, attention issues.  Her reading and math

abilities

> > have progressed tremendously in that time, but her recent return

of

> > her frequent inability to focus has resulted in testing results

BR>

> that

> > cannot \ " prove\ " what she has succeeded in doing in the

classroom. 

> > Unfortunately, her yeast issues were continuing (although

somewhat

> > better) and with the added stress of continuing progression of

R>

> > academics in her classroom, she has been stressing herself out

R>

and

> > she uses the masturbation as a stress relieving activity and

> > something that makes the uncomfortable feeling go away. 

> > Unfortunately, she has done this in class. Luckily, the other

>

kids

> > don\'t have a clue what she is doing, but that is only a matter

BR>

of

> > time.  We need to break her of this as soon as we can.

> >

> > During active participation activities in the classroom is

> > focused and participating in the class.  She is extremely

outgoing

> > and verbal, and loves to be the center of attention. 

> Unfortunately,

> > when it comes to desk work, especially the unstructured times

>

they

> > have to do \ " centers\ " , she cannot focus and needs to b

e

redirected

> by

> > an adult almost minute to minute.  Needless to say, the school

> > doesn\'t have the staff to support her needs.

> >

> > I have just (in the last week to today) received Lauricidan,

> Houston

> > Nutraceuticals No-Fenol and HN-Zyme Prime and Aqua Flora.  We

BR>

have

> > begun treating her with those supplements in addition to the

GSE,

> > Colostrum, magnesium, calcium, Vit C, multivitamin, Pro-Biotics,

> > zinc, fish oil, flax seed oil, and evening primrose oil.  We ha

d

> > stopped giving her the oils a few weeks ago because she was

> fighting

> > taking them.  She is back to taking them now.  I am still

>

awaiting

> > the HN AFT Peptizyde (due in next week).  In the last week she

has

> > ended up soiling her underwear a few times from BMs that she

didn\'t

> > even feel coming.  I don\'t know if this is die off from the

R>

> > Lauricidan or something from the enzymes (it couldn\'t be the

>

Aqua

> > Flora-it just arrived today).  Does anyone know what might be

BR>

> causing

> > that, and if so, should I be discontinuing use, or will it stop

BR>

> > soon?       

> >

> > Unfortunately, the \ " stimulating\ " behavior has increas

ed lately

and

> > because she is focusing on that, she ISN\'T focusing on her

> academics

> > and is falling behind.              

 

> >

> > We are receiving pressure from her school to medicate her (they

BR>

> won\'t

> > tell us we HAVE to do it, but they are \ " forcefully

recommending\ "

> > it).  They also are recommending counseling to help her deal

R>

with

> the

> > ODD type behaviors.  We had her in counseling when she was in

BR>

> > kindergarden last year and we really didn\'t see much benefit. 

> After

> > school let out in June her behavior improved (due to less

stress),

> so

> > we discontinued therapy.  Unfortunately, our new health

insurance

> > does not cover counseling this year and we would have to bear

>

the

> > heavy cost of it.  It\'s hard to justify the cost when we

believe

> the

> > underlying cause is \ " leaky-gut\ " issues related to hea

vy metal

> > contamination.  I know I need to make an appointment with a

>

doctor

> > who does chelation and I have a name of a local doctor who does,

> but

> > I was trying to get her guts in order first...

> >

> > My husband and I are at our wit\'s end with this.  It seems lik

e

the

> > school district is trying to determine how we should be raising

BR>

our

> > child.  Believe me, I KNOW she\'s a challenge.  I\'m sorry

R>

she\'s a

> > distraction and she requires more help than the other kids,

but...

> > Any recommendations anyone?  Should we look into Ritalin? Shoul

d

we

> > pay the big bucks for counseling when it\'s not likely to do

> anything

> > but make us broke?  Are the supplements I have her on

sufficient? 

> If

> > not, what are we missing?  Is chelation as soon as possible the

> only

> > viable option for her?  Should we go ahead and put her on

Ritalin?

> > Please advise...               

>

> >

> > Dawn Schaller

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================

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>

[Guest guest]

re: her problem touching herself in class, make sure her underwear is

not too tight and she doesn't suffer irritation, itching etc in the

area she touches. That may help too.

[Guest guest]

------------ this is a forwarded message -----------

From: scap_64 scap_64@...

Subject: [ ] Re: HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD

daughter.

Date Sent: 01/31/04 9:55 pm

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re: her problem touching herself in class, make sure her underwear is

not too tight and she doesn\'t suffer irritation, itching etc in the

area she touches. That may help too.

WE HAVE MADE SURE OF ALL THAT STUFF... HER UNDERWEAR IS NOT TOO TIGHT, IS

WASHED IN MILD DETERGENT, IS WHITE AND COTTON... HER PANTS ARE NOT TOO TIGHT

(SIZE 6X SLIMS ARE BIG ON HER), AND IT DOESN\'T MATTER IF THE PANTS ARE

FLOPPY SWEAT PANTS, HARD JEANS, KNIT PANTS THAT ARE LOOSE ON HER (WOULD BE

CLINGY ON A NORMAL WEIGHT CHILD), OR SHORTS. WE DON\'T WASH HER WITH SOAP

DOWN THERE AND HAD NOT GIVEN HER A BATH (ONLY SHOWERS) FOR THE LAST YEAR AND

A HALF UNTIL A MONTH AGO WHEN WE STARTED GIVING HER EPSOM SALT BATHS

(WONDERFUL RESULTS WITH CALMED BEHAVIOR THERE!). HER YEAST INFECTION IS

SOMEWHAT UNDER CONTROL WITH TWICE DAILY TOPICAL FUNGAL CREAM APPLICATION AND

DAILY USE OF GSE FOR THE LAST 2 MONTHS.

DAWN SCHALLER

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[Guest guest]

Dawn,

other foods rich in copper are raisins, other dried fruits,

mushrooms, seafood, nuts, soy milk, cocoa. You will likely see if

your daughter has a copper problem by her hair test. Coromega is a

cream containing omega-3 acids, mostly EPA and DHA, which are

beneficial for brain development. You can search in the internet and

find the cheapest price.

Best wishes

Margaret

> > > I have posted before, but would appreciate input from anyone

who

>

> > has

> > > a recommendation for how we should be proceeding with what is

> >

> > > happening with and to my 6 yr old daughter in first grade.

> > >

> > > This past October she was diagnosed as ADHD and ODD.  The

> behaviors

> > > have been there since she was a toddler, but her regular

> > pediatrician

> > > said to wait until 1st grade to have her evaluated.  She has ha

> d

> > > longstanding chronic yeast infections since infancy and she has

>  

> > > masturbated to relieve the discomfort for over 4 years now.  We

>

> > have

> > > tried to break her of that \ " habit\ " since it began, to

> no

> avail. 

> > She

> > > has been on anti-fungal medications through her pediatrician

at

> BR>

> > least

> > > a dozen times, and we have had to apply topical anti-fungal

> cream

> > to

> > > her vaginal area almost non-stop since she was three years old.

>  

> My

> > > husband did not want her on mind altering drugs like Ritalin

> under

> > > any circumstances, so I began my internet and book research to

> R>

> > > alternative treatments for ADHD. The pediatrician in the

office

> BR>

> who

> > > specializes in ADHD kids wanted to begin with drug therapy.  He

>

> > said

> > > that nutritional supplementation and diet is pointless and

> proven

> > to

> > > be ineffective in treating just about any disease besides

> rickets. 

> > > We took her to an allergist/infectious disease specialist to

> > > determine why she has the yeast infections.  That showed she is

>

> > > allergic to yeasts and mold and slightly allergic to wheat.  My

>

> > > research led me to likely mercury and lead issues, probable

gut

> BR>

> > > dysbiosis, and nutritional deficiencies in her.  I began

> > nutritional

> > > supplementation, a diet with no yeast, molds, gluten, casein

> > (milk),

> > > chocolate, food colors, preservatives, sugar,

nitrates/nitrites,

>

> > etc.

> > > and non-prescription treatment of her yeast infections and

> likely

> > > clostridia issues.  When I told the school what I was doing the

> y

> > > looked at me like I had just told them I was making her sleep

> >

> > upside

> > > down and eat bat guano for meals...  They had never heard of

> R>

> this

> > > protocol for treating ADHD and thought we were just dishing

out

> BR>

> > cruel

> > > and unusual punishment of a small child.  

> > >

> > > I received progressively positive notes from her teacher since

> R>

> mid-

> > > November with a few \ " oops\ " behavior issues and contin

> ued, but

> > > somewhat better, attention issues.  Her reading and math

> abilities

> > > have progressed tremendously in that time, but her recent

return

>

> of

> > > her frequent inability to focus has resulted in testing

results

> BR>

> > that

> > > cannot \ " prove\ " what she has succeeded in doing in the

>

> classroom. 

> > > Unfortunately, her yeast issues were continuing (although

> somewhat

> > > better) and with the added stress of continuing progression of

> R>

> > > academics in her classroom, she has been stressing herself out

> R>

> and

> > > she uses the masturbation as a stress relieving activity and

> > > something that makes the uncomfortable feeling go away. 

> > > Unfortunately, she has done this in class. Luckily, the other

> >

> kids

> > > don\'t have a clue what she is doing, but that is only a

matter

> BR>

> of

> > > time.  We need to break her of this as soon as we can.

> > >

> > > During active participation activities in the classroom

is

>

> > > focused and participating in the class.  She is extremely

> outgoing

> > > and verbal, and loves to be the center of attention. 

> > Unfortunately,

> > > when it comes to desk work, especially the unstructured times

> >

> they

> > > have to do \ " centers\ " , she cannot focus and needs to b

> e

> redirected

> > by

> > > an adult almost minute to minute.  Needless to say, the school

>

> > > doesn\'t have the staff to support her needs.

> > >

> > > I have just (in the last week to today) received Lauricidan,

> > Houston

> > > Nutraceuticals No-Fenol and HN-Zyme Prime and Aqua Flora.  We

> BR>

> have

> > > begun treating her with those supplements in addition to the

> GSE,

> > > Colostrum, magnesium, calcium, Vit C, multivitamin, Pro-

Biotics,

>

> > > zinc, fish oil, flax seed oil, and evening primrose oil.  We ha

> d

> > > stopped giving her the oils a few weeks ago because she was

> > fighting

> > > taking them.  She is back to taking them now.  I am still

> >

> awaiting

> > > the HN AFT Peptizyde (due in next week).  In the last week she

>

> has

> > > ended up soiling her underwear a few times from BMs that she

> didn\'t

> > > even feel coming.  I don\'t know if this is die off from the

> R>

> > > Lauricidan or something from the enzymes (it couldn\'t be the

> >

> Aqua

> > > Flora-it just arrived today).  Does anyone know what might be

> BR>

> > causing

> > > that, and if so, should I be discontinuing use, or will it

stop

> BR>

> > > soon?       

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, the \ " stimulating\ " behavior has increas

> ed lately

> and

> > > because she is focusing on that, she ISN\'T focusing on her

> > academics

> > > and is falling behind.              

>  

> > >

> > > We are receiving pressure from her school to medicate her

(they

> BR>

> > won\'t

> > > tell us we HAVE to do it, but they are \ " forcefully

> recommending\ "

> > > it).  They also are recommending counseling to help her deal

> R>

> with

> > the

> > > ODD type behaviors.  We had her in counseling when she was in

> BR>

> > > kindergarden last year and we really didn\'t see much benefit. 

>

> > After

> > > school let out in June her behavior improved (due to less

> stress),

> > so

> > > we discontinued therapy.  Unfortunately, our new health

> insurance

> > > does not cover counseling this year and we would have to bear

> >

> the

> > > heavy cost of it.  It\'s hard to justify the cost when we

> believe

> > the

> > > underlying cause is \ " leaky-gut\ " issues related to hea

> vy metal

> > > contamination.  I know I need to make an appointment with a

> >

> doctor

> > > who does chelation and I have a name of a local doctor who

does,

>

> > but

> > > I was trying to get her guts in order first...

> > >

> > > My husband and I are at our wit\'s end with this.  It seems lik

> e

> the

> > > school district is trying to determine how we should be

raising

> BR>

> our

> > > child.  Believe me, I KNOW she\'s a challenge.  I\'m sorry

> R>

> she\'s a

> > > distraction and she requires more help than the other kids,

> but...

> > > Any recommendations anyone?  Should we look into Ritalin? Shoul

> d

> we

> > > pay the big bucks for counseling when it\'s not likely to do

> > anything

> > > but make us broke?  Are the supplements I have her on

> sufficient? 

> > If

> > > not, what are we missing?  Is chelation as soon as possible the

>

> > only

> > > viable option for her?  Should we go ahead and put her on

> Ritalin?

> > > Please advise...               

> >

> > >

> > > Dawn Schaller

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================

> =========================

> ======

> >