Re: HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD daughter.

January 30, 2004

Just two ideas which might or might not be of use to you.

You might want to try sitting her into a bowl of water with a few drops of GSE.

Have you ever considered home-schooling her?

Dagmar.

[ ] HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD

daughter.

I have posted before, but would appreciate input from anyone who has

a recommendation for how we should be proceeding with what is

happening with and to my 6 yr old daughter in first grade.

This past October she was diagnosed as ADHD and ODD. The behaviors

have been there since she was a toddler, but her regular pediatrician

said to wait until 1st grade to have her evaluated. She has had

longstanding chronic yeast infections since infancy and she has

masturbated to relieve the discomfort for over 4 years now. We have

tried to break her of that " habit " since it began, to no avail. She

has been on anti-fungal medications through her pediatrician at least

a dozen times, and we have had to apply topical anti-fungal cream to

her vaginal area almost non-stop since she was three years old. My

husband did not want her on mind altering drugs like Ritalin under

any circumstances, so I began my internet and book research to

alternative treatments for ADHD. The pediatrician in the office who

specializes in ADHD kids wanted to begin with drug therapy. He said

that nutritional supplementation and diet is pointless and proven to

be ineffective in treating just about any disease besides rickets.

We took her to an allergist/infectious disease specialist to

determine why she has the yeast infections. That showed she is

allergic to yeasts and mold and slightly allergic to wheat. My

research led me to likely mercury and lead issues, probable gut

dysbiosis, and nutritional deficiencies in her. I began nutritional

supplementation, a diet with no yeast, molds, gluten, casein (milk),

chocolate, food colors, preservatives, sugar, nitrates/nitrites, etc.

and non-prescription treatment of her yeast infections and likely

clostridia issues. When I told the school what I was doing they

looked at me like I had just told them I was making her sleep upside

down and eat bat guano for meals... They had never heard of this

protocol for treating ADHD and thought we were just dishing out cruel

and unusual punishment of a small child.

I received progressively positive notes from her teacher since mid-

November with a few " oops " behavior issues and continued, but

somewhat better, attention issues. Her reading and math abilities

have progressed tremendously in that time, but her recent return of

her frequent inability to focus has resulted in testing results that

cannot " prove " what she has succeeded in doing in the classroom.

Unfortunately, her yeast issues were continuing (although somewhat

better) and with the added stress of continuing progression of

academics in her classroom, she has been stressing herself out and

she uses the masturbation as a stress relieving activity and

something that makes the uncomfortable feeling go away.

Unfortunately, she has done this in class. Luckily, the other kids

don't have a clue what she is doing, but that is only a matter of

time. We need to break her of this as soon as we can.

During active participation activities in the classroom is

focused and participating in the class. She is extremely outgoing

and verbal, and loves to be the center of attention. Unfortunately,

when it comes to desk work, especially the unstructured times they

have to do " centers " , she cannot focus and needs to be redirected by

an adult almost minute to minute. Needless to say, the school

doesn't have the staff to support her needs.

I have just (in the last week to today) received Lauricidan, Houston

Nutraceuticals No-Fenol and HN-Zyme Prime and Aqua Flora. We have

begun treating her with those supplements in addition to the GSE,

Colostrum, magnesium, calcium, Vit C, multivitamin, Pro-Biotics,

zinc, fish oil, flax seed oil, and evening primrose oil. We had

stopped giving her the oils a few weeks ago because she was fighting

taking them. She is back to taking them now. I am still awaiting

the HN AFT Peptizyde (due in next week). In the last week she has

ended up soiling her underwear a few times from BMs that she didn't

even feel coming. I don't know if this is die off from the

Lauricidan or something from the enzymes (it couldn't be the Aqua

Flora-it just arrived today). Does anyone know what might be causing

that, and if so, should I be discontinuing use, or will it stop

soon?

Unfortunately, the " stimulating " behavior has increased lately and

because she is focusing on that, she ISN'T focusing on her academics

and is falling behind.

We are receiving pressure from her school to medicate her (they won't

tell us we HAVE to do it, but they are " forcefully recommending "

it). They also are recommending counseling to help her deal with the

ODD type behaviors. We had her in counseling when she was in

kindergarden last year and we really didn't see much benefit. After

school let out in June her behavior improved (due to less stress), so

we discontinued therapy. Unfortunately, our new health insurance

does not cover counseling this year and we would have to bear the

heavy cost of it. It's hard to justify the cost when we believe the

underlying cause is " leaky-gut " issues related to heavy metal

contamination. I know I need to make an appointment with a doctor

who does chelation and I have a name of a local doctor who does, but

I was trying to get her guts in order first...

My husband and I are at our wit's end with this. It seems like the

school district is trying to determine how we should be raising our

child. Believe me, I KNOW she's a challenge. I'm sorry she's a

distraction and she requires more help than the other kids, but...

Any recommendations anyone? Should we look into Ritalin? Should we

pay the big bucks for counseling when it's not likely to do anything

but make us broke? Are the supplements I have her on sufficient? If

not, what are we missing? Is chelation as soon as possible the only

viable option for her? Should we go ahead and put her on Ritalin?

Please advise...

Dawn Schaller

=======================================================

January 30, 2004

contact: http://www.adhdfraud.com they can advise you on some

strategies for dealing with the school.

> I have posted before, but would appreciate input from anyone who

has

> a recommendation for how we should be proceeding with what is

> happening with and to my 6 yr old daughter in first grade.

>

> This past October she was diagnosed as ADHD and ODD. The behaviors

> have been there since she was a toddler, but her regular

pediatrician

> said to wait until 1st grade to have her evaluated. She has had

> longstanding chronic yeast infections since infancy and she has

> masturbated to relieve the discomfort for over 4 years now. We

have

> tried to break her of that " habit " since it began, to no avail.

She

> has been on anti-fungal medications through her pediatrician at

least

> a dozen times, and we have had to apply topical anti-fungal cream

to

> her vaginal area almost non-stop since she was three years old. My

> husband did not want her on mind altering drugs like Ritalin under

> any circumstances, so I began my internet and book research to

> alternative treatments for ADHD. The pediatrician in the office who

> specializes in ADHD kids wanted to begin with drug therapy. He

said

> that nutritional supplementation and diet is pointless and proven

to

> be ineffective in treating just about any disease besides rickets.

> We took her to an allergist/infectious disease specialist to

> determine why she has the yeast infections. That showed she is

> allergic to yeasts and mold and slightly allergic to wheat. My

> research led me to likely mercury and lead issues, probable gut

> dysbiosis, and nutritional deficiencies in her. I began

nutritional

> supplementation, a diet with no yeast, molds, gluten, casein

(milk),

> chocolate, food colors, preservatives, sugar, nitrates/nitrites,

etc.

> and non-prescription treatment of her yeast infections and likely

> clostridia issues. When I told the school what I was doing they

> looked at me like I had just told them I was making her sleep

upside

> down and eat bat guano for meals... They had never heard of this

> protocol for treating ADHD and thought we were just dishing out

cruel

> and unusual punishment of a small child.

>

> I received progressively positive notes from her teacher since mid-

> November with a few " oops " behavior issues and continued, but

> somewhat better, attention issues. Her reading and math abilities

> have progressed tremendously in that time, but her recent return of

> her frequent inability to focus has resulted in testing results

that

> cannot " prove " what she has succeeded in doing in the classroom.

> Unfortunately, her yeast issues were continuing (although somewhat

> better) and with the added stress of continuing progression of

> academics in her classroom, she has been stressing herself out and

> she uses the masturbation as a stress relieving activity and

> something that makes the uncomfortable feeling go away.

> Unfortunately, she has done this in class. Luckily, the other kids

> don't have a clue what she is doing, but that is only a matter of

> time. We need to break her of this as soon as we can.

>

> During active participation activities in the classroom is

> focused and participating in the class. She is extremely outgoing

> and verbal, and loves to be the center of attention.

Unfortunately,

> when it comes to desk work, especially the unstructured times they

> have to do " centers " , she cannot focus and needs to be redirected

by

> an adult almost minute to minute. Needless to say, the school

> doesn't have the staff to support her needs.

>

> I have just (in the last week to today) received Lauricidan,

Houston

> Nutraceuticals No-Fenol and HN-Zyme Prime and Aqua Flora. We have

> begun treating her with those supplements in addition to the GSE,

> Colostrum, magnesium, calcium, Vit C, multivitamin, Pro-Biotics,

> zinc, fish oil, flax seed oil, and evening primrose oil. We had

> stopped giving her the oils a few weeks ago because she was

fighting

> taking them. She is back to taking them now. I am still awaiting

> the HN AFT Peptizyde (due in next week). In the last week she has

> ended up soiling her underwear a few times from BMs that she didn't

> even feel coming. I don't know if this is die off from the

> Lauricidan or something from the enzymes (it couldn't be the Aqua

> Flora-it just arrived today). Does anyone know what might be

causing

> that, and if so, should I be discontinuing use, or will it stop

> soon?

>

> Unfortunately, the " stimulating " behavior has increased lately and

> because she is focusing on that, she ISN'T focusing on her

academics

> and is falling behind.

>

> We are receiving pressure from her school to medicate her (they

won't

> tell us we HAVE to do it, but they are " forcefully recommending "

> it). They also are recommending counseling to help her deal with

the

> ODD type behaviors. We had her in counseling when she was in

> kindergarden last year and we really didn't see much benefit.

After

> school let out in June her behavior improved (due to less stress),

so

> we discontinued therapy. Unfortunately, our new health insurance

> does not cover counseling this year and we would have to bear the

> heavy cost of it. It's hard to justify the cost when we believe

the

> underlying cause is " leaky-gut " issues related to heavy metal

> contamination. I know I need to make an appointment with a doctor

> who does chelation and I have a name of a local doctor who does,

but

> I was trying to get her guts in order first...

>

> My husband and I are at our wit's end with this. It seems like the

> school district is trying to determine how we should be raising our

> child. Believe me, I KNOW she's a challenge. I'm sorry she's a

> distraction and she requires more help than the other kids, but...

> Any recommendations anyone? Should we look into Ritalin? Should we

> pay the big bucks for counseling when it's not likely to do

anything

> but make us broke? Are the supplements I have her on sufficient?

If

> not, what are we missing? Is chelation as soon as possible the

only

> viable option for her? Should we go ahead and put her on Ritalin?

> Please advise...

>

> Dawn Schaller

January 30, 2004

Thanks. I looked at the website. I do believe my child has ADHD, probably

caused by metals/yeast/clostridia. I would like to treat the cause and get

rid of it, rather than treat the symptoms and not get rid of it. Any other

ideas? They are telling us that if she doesn\'t start getting ahead in

school, they may be looking at \ " retaining\ " her in 1st grade next year.

Can anyone tell me if I might be able to get her somewhat straight with

supplements soon enough to prevent having to medicate her to pass the first

grade?

Dawn Schaller

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From: scap_64 scap_64@...

Subject: [ ] Re: HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD

daughter.

Date Sent: 01/29/04 11:46 pm

----------------=== message body ===----------------

contact: http://www.adhdfraud.com they can advise you on some

strategies for dealing with the school.

> I have posted before, but would appreciate input from anyone who

has

> a recommendation for how we should be proceeding with what is

> happening with and to my 6 yr old daughter in first grade.

>

> This past October she was diagnosed as ADHD and ODD. The behaviors

> have been there since she was a toddler, but her regular

pediatrician

> said to wait until 1st grade to have her evaluated. She has had

> longstanding chronic yeast infections since infancy and she has

> masturbated to relieve the discomfort for over 4 years now. We

have

> tried to break her of that \ " habit\ " since it began, to no avail.

She

> has been on anti-fungal medications through her pediatrician at

least

> a dozen times, and we have had to apply topical anti-fungal cream

to

> her vaginal area almost non-stop since she was three years old. My

> husband did not want her on mind altering drugs like Ritalin under

> any circumstances, so I began my internet and book research to

> alternative treatments for ADHD. The pediatrician in the office who

> specializes in ADHD kids wanted to begin with drug therapy. He

said

> that nutritional supplementation and diet is pointless and proven

to

> be ineffective in treating just about any disease besides rickets.

> We took her to an allergist/infectious disease specialist to

> determine why she has the yeast infections. That showed she is

> allergic to yeasts and mold and slightly allergic to wheat. My

> research led me to likely mercury and lead issues, probable gut

> dysbiosis, and nutritional deficiencies in her. I began

nutritional

> supplementation, a diet with no yeast, molds, gluten, casein

(milk),

> chocolate, food colors, preservatives, sugar, nitrates/nitrites,

etc.

> and non-prescription treatment of her yeast infections and likely

> clostridia issues. When I told the school what I was doing they

> looked at me like I had just told them I was making her sleep

upside

> down and eat bat guano for meals... They had never heard of this

> protocol for treating ADHD and thought we were just dishing out

cruel

> and unusual punishment of a small child.

>

> I received progressively positive notes from her teacher since mid-

> November with a few \ " oops\ " behavior issues and continued, but

> somewhat better, attention issues. Her reading and math abilities

> have progressed tremendously in that time, but her recent return of

> her frequent inability to focus has resulted in testing results

that

> cannot \ " prove\ " what she has succeeded in doing in the classroom.

> Unfortunately, her yeast issues were continuing (although somewhat

> better) and with the added stress of continuing progression of

> academics in her classroom, she has been stressing herself out and

> she uses the masturbation as a stress relieving activity and

> something that makes the uncomfortable feeling go away.

> Unfortunately, she has done this in class. Luckily, the other kids

> don\'t have a clue what she is doing, but that is only a matter of

> time. We need to break her of this as soon as we can.

>

> During active participation activities in the classroom is

> focused and participating in the class. She is extremely outgoing

> and verbal, and loves to be the center of attention.

Unfortunately,

> when it comes to desk work, especially the unstructured times they

> have to do \ " centers\ " , she cannot focus and needs to be redirected

by

> an adult almost minute to minute. Needless to say, the school

> doesn\'t have the staff to support her needs.

>

> I have just (in the last week to today) received Lauricidan,

Houston

> Nutraceuticals No-Fenol and HN-Zyme Prime and Aqua Flora. We have

> begun treating her with those supplements in addition to the GSE,

> Colostrum, magnesium, calcium, Vit C, multivitamin, Pro-Biotics,

> zinc, fish oil, flax seed oil, and evening primrose oil. We had

> stopped giving her the oils a few weeks ago because she was

fighting

> taking them. She is back to taking them now. I am still awaiting

> the HN AFT Peptizyde (due in next week). In the last week she has

> ended up soiling her underwear a few times from BMs that she didn\'t

> even feel coming. I don\'t know if this is die off from the

> Lauricidan or something from the enzymes (it couldn\'t be the Aqua

> Flora-it just arrived today). Does anyone know what might be

causing

> that, and if so, should I be discontinuing use, or will it stop

> soon?

>

> Unfortunately, the \ " stimulating\ " behavior has increased lately and

> because she is focusing on that, she ISN\'T focusing on her

academics

> and is falling behind.

>

> We are receiving pressure from her school to medicate her (they

won\'t

> tell us we HAVE to do it, but they are \ " forcefully recommending\ "

> it). They also are recommending counseling to help her deal with

the

> ODD type behaviors. We had her in counseling when she was in

> kindergarden last year and we really didn\'t see much benefit.

After

> school let out in June her behavior improved (due to less stress),

so

> we discontinued therapy. Unfortunately, our new health insurance

> does not cover counseling this year and we would have to bear the

> heavy cost of it. It\'s hard to justify the cost when we believe

the

> underlying cause is \ " leaky-gut\ " issues related to heavy metal

> contamination. I know I need to make an appointment with a doctor

> who does chelation and I have a name of a local doctor who does,

but

> I was trying to get her guts in order first...

>

> My husband and I are at our wit\'s end with this. It seems like the

> school district is trying to determine how we should be raising our

> child. Believe me, I KNOW she\'s a challenge. I\'m sorry she\'s a

> distraction and she requires more help than the other kids, but...

> Any recommendations anyone? Should we look into Ritalin? Should we

> pay the big bucks for counseling when it\'s not likely to do

anything

> but make us broke? Are the supplements I have her on sufficient?

If

> not, what are we missing? Is chelation as soon as possible the

only

> viable option for her? Should we go ahead and put her on Ritalin?

> Please advise...

>

> Dawn Schaller

======================================================

January 30, 2004

> Just two ideas which might or might not be of use to you.

>

> You might want to try sitting her into a bowl of water with a few

drops of GSE.

>

> Have you ever considered home-schooling her?

>

> Dagmar.

To continue with Dagmar's idea, you can put 5-6 drops of GSE on a

washcloth and wet it with warm water then clean the private areas

with it. Get a second washcloth with warm water and wipe the same

area you just cleaned to rinse off the GSE. Works for me to prevent

bladder infections.

Also you may want to try the specific carbohydrate diet to control

the yeast.

The second issue is that your child is entitled to have a shadow and

the school has to provide it. They can't force you to do anything

you don't want to do but they do have to provide services. There's

a website called slaw which might help with the schooling

issues. Hope this helps and take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

January 30, 2004

Thanks Becky and Dagmar. I\'ll try it... I have basically had her on a GFCF

and SCD diet since October...

Dawn Schaller

------------ this is a forwarded message -----------

From: sixthunderingherd sixthunderingherd@...

Subject: [ ] Re: HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD

daughter.

Date Sent: 01/30/04 6:33 am

----------------=== message body ===----------------

> Just two ideas which might or might not be of use to you.

>

> You might want to try sitting her into a bowl of water with a few

drops of GSE.

>

> Have you ever considered home-schooling her?

>

> Dagmar.

To continue with Dagmar\'s idea, you can put 5-6 drops of GSE on a

washcloth and wet it with warm water then clean the private areas

with it. Get a second washcloth with warm water and wipe the same

area you just cleaned to rinse off the GSE. Works for me to prevent

bladder infections.

Also you may want to try the specific carbohydrate diet to control

the yeast.

The second issue is that your child is entitled to have a shadow and

the school has to provide it. They can\'t force you to do anything

you don\'t want to do but they do have to provide services. There\'s

a website called slaw which might help with the schooling

issues. Hope this helps and take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

======================================================

January 30, 2004

Dawn,

Of course, this is totally your decision, but your daughter's symptoms sound

so connected with mercury poisoning (as does your ongoing battle with yeast)

that I think the sooner you chelate, the better. My son had yeast problems

starting when he was just a few months old. I look at that now and

understand exactly what was going on.

I was SOOOO afraid of chelation when I first started looking into this, but

we have safely chelated our son now for over 3 years (he's 23, that's why so

long) with very few problems and definite benefits. We've been using Andy's

protocol going low and slow.

About the drugs--we had Craig on Depakote for 3 years on the advice of our

pediatric neurologist who kept upping and upping the dosage. I shudder now

to think about what that might have done to his brain, especially now when

my son types out that he still had petit mal seizures but they were covered

up. He walked around like a zombie. Since then, we discovered he had a

taurine deficiency, and after giving him taurine, see no evidence whatsoever

of seizure activity. (Mercury poisoning can lower taurine levels.) I have

another friend who's daughter was put on Ritalin, and they had to keep

upping and upping the dose to get the same effect.

Chelation treats the CAUSE of the attention problems, allowing healing to be

possible. It's not a fun ride, but many of us are on this journey, and we

support each other through it.

So my suggestion would be to keep doing all the good things you are doing,

and give chelation a try. I always wonder how different every ADD or ADHD

kid in this country would be if they only had 10-20 rounds of detox!

Barb

[ ] HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD

daughter.

> I have posted before, but would appreciate input from anyone who has

> a recommendation for how we should be proceeding with what is

> happening with and to my 6 yr old daughter in first grade.

>

> This past October she was diagnosed as ADHD and ODD. The behaviors

> have been there since she was a toddler, but her regular pediatrician

> said to wait until 1st grade to have her evaluated. She has had

> longstanding chronic yeast infections since infancy and she has

> masturbated to relieve the discomfort for over 4 years now. We have

> tried to break her of that " habit " since it began, to no avail. She

> has been on anti-fungal medications through her pediatrician at least

> a dozen times, and we have had to apply topical anti-fungal cream to

> her vaginal area almost non-stop since she was three years old. My

> husband did not want her on mind altering drugs like Ritalin under

> any circumstances, so I began my internet and book research to

> alternative treatments for ADHD. The pediatrician in the office who

> specializes in ADHD kids wanted to begin with drug therapy. He said

> that nutritional supplementation and diet is pointless and proven to

> be ineffective in treating just about any disease besides rickets.

> We took her to an allergist/infectious disease specialist to

> determine why she has the yeast infections. That showed she is

> allergic to yeasts and mold and slightly allergic to wheat. My

> research led me to likely mercury and lead issues, probable gut

> dysbiosis, and nutritional deficiencies in her. I began nutritional

> supplementation, a diet with no yeast, molds, gluten, casein (milk),

> chocolate, food colors, preservatives, sugar, nitrates/nitrites, etc.

> and non-prescription treatment of her yeast infections and likely

> clostridia issues. When I told the school what I was doing they

> looked at me like I had just told them I was making her sleep upside

> down and eat bat guano for meals... They had never heard of this

> protocol for treating ADHD and thought we were just dishing out cruel

> and unusual punishment of a small child.

>

> I received progressively positive notes from her teacher since mid-

> November with a few " oops " behavior issues and continued, but

> somewhat better, attention issues. Her reading and math abilities

> have progressed tremendously in that time, but her recent return of

> her frequent inability to focus has resulted in testing results that

> cannot " prove " what she has succeeded in doing in the classroom.

> Unfortunately, her yeast issues were continuing (although somewhat

> better) and with the added stress of continuing progression of

> academics in her classroom, she has been stressing herself out and

> she uses the masturbation as a stress relieving activity and

> something that makes the uncomfortable feeling go away.

> Unfortunately, she has done this in class. Luckily, the other kids

> don't have a clue what she is doing, but that is only a matter of

> time. We need to break her of this as soon as we can.

>

> During active participation activities in the classroom is

> focused and participating in the class. She is extremely outgoing

> and verbal, and loves to be the center of attention. Unfortunately,

> when it comes to desk work, especially the unstructured times they

> have to do " centers " , she cannot focus and needs to be redirected by

> an adult almost minute to minute. Needless to say, the school

> doesn't have the staff to support her needs.

>

> I have just (in the last week to today) received Lauricidan, Houston

> Nutraceuticals No-Fenol and HN-Zyme Prime and Aqua Flora. We have

> begun treating her with those supplements in addition to the GSE,

> Colostrum, magnesium, calcium, Vit C, multivitamin, Pro-Biotics,

> zinc, fish oil, flax seed oil, and evening primrose oil. We had

> stopped giving her the oils a few weeks ago because she was fighting

> taking them. She is back to taking them now. I am still awaiting

> the HN AFT Peptizyde (due in next week). In the last week she has

> ended up soiling her underwear a few times from BMs that she didn't

> even feel coming. I don't know if this is die off from the

> Lauricidan or something from the enzymes (it couldn't be the Aqua

> Flora-it just arrived today). Does anyone know what might be causing

> that, and if so, should I be discontinuing use, or will it stop

> soon?

>

> Unfortunately, the " stimulating " behavior has increased lately and

> because she is focusing on that, she ISN'T focusing on her academics

> and is falling behind.

>

> We are receiving pressure from her school to medicate her (they won't

> tell us we HAVE to do it, but they are " forcefully recommending "

> it). They also are recommending counseling to help her deal with the

> ODD type behaviors. We had her in counseling when she was in

> kindergarden last year and we really didn't see much benefit. After

> school let out in June her behavior improved (due to less stress), so

> we discontinued therapy. Unfortunately, our new health insurance

> does not cover counseling this year and we would have to bear the

> heavy cost of it. It's hard to justify the cost when we believe the

> underlying cause is " leaky-gut " issues related to heavy metal

> contamination. I know I need to make an appointment with a doctor

> who does chelation and I have a name of a local doctor who does, but

> I was trying to get her guts in order first...

>

> My husband and I are at our wit's end with this. It seems like the

> school district is trying to determine how we should be raising our

> child. Believe me, I KNOW she's a challenge. I'm sorry she's a

> distraction and she requires more help than the other kids, but...

> Any recommendations anyone? Should we look into Ritalin? Should we

> pay the big bucks for counseling when it's not likely to do anything

> but make us broke? Are the supplements I have her on sufficient? If

> not, what are we missing? Is chelation as soon as possible the only

> viable option for her? Should we go ahead and put her on Ritalin?

> Please advise...

>

> Dawn Schaller

>

> =======================================================

>

January 30, 2004

I had planned on home schooling before kindergarden because of her

behavior issues and decided against it because she won\'t work for me. She

will do things for total strangers, but not me, so it is pointless. She is

a perfectionist and if she cannot do something perfect the first time, she

refuses to try anymore. I think she is afraid that she will be letting me

down if I see her \ " fail\ " to be perfect. Besides, she is such a social

child that keeping her away from other kids (especially since she is an only

child living in a rural area away from other children) would be cruel.

Dawn Schaller

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From: Dagmar dagmarjahr@...

Subject: Re: [ ] HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD

daughter.

Date Sent: 01/29/04 10:50 pm

----------------=== message body ===----------------

Just two ideas which might or might not be of use to you.

You might want to try sitting her into a bowl of water with a few drops of

GSE.

Have you ever considered home-schooling her?

Dagmar.

[ ] HELP! Problems with school on 6 yr old ADHD

daughter.

I have posted before, but would appreciate input from anyone who has

a recommendation for how we should be proceeding with what is

happening with and to my 6 yr old daughter in first grade.

This past October she was diagnosed as ADHD and ODD. The behaviors

have been there since she was a toddler, but her regular pediatrician

said to wait until 1st grade to have her evaluated. She has had

longstanding chronic yeast infections since infancy and she has

masturbated to relieve the discomfort for over 4 years now. We have

tried to break her of that \ " habit\ " since it began, to no avail. She