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I am curious---have most of the people that have undergone WLS

struggled with weight their entire lives? In GastricBypass-

LOSERS@yGrowing up I was thin---incredibly thin. I figured out by

BMI from what I weighed as a teen and it was 16.9. Even after

having children (I had mine fairly young) I still never struggled

with weight and quite frankly, until it started piling on in my 30's

I never really understood obesity. I always thought it was a

problem relating to one's self-control. You know, " if you just push

back from the table you wouldn't be heavy. " Now that the shoe is

very definitely on the other foot, I realize that self-control has

little to do with it a great deal of the time. I have been

struggling for 10 years doing everything imaginable and I'm still

obese. I was just curious as to other's history as I've never

really discussed my obesity with anyone before.

le

Yahoogroups.com, Shauna Thalman wrote:

>

> and Group,

>

> I know EXACTLY!!! how you are feeling. Having problems with

men growing up, I fought with my weight as well. I did not want to

be attractive in their eyes. I have had therapy before surgery, but

did not start digging into this issue until right after surgery

because I recognized it then. Since surgery I have lost over 100 lbs

and now I get attention quite often. The first time I did I FREAKED

out honestly. I wanted to run in the other direction. A couple of

days ago my sister and I were in the store and this guy was checking

me out but I didn't notice. I am oblivious to it because, well its

been so long since I have seen people look at me because I looked

nice rather then OMG SHE " S HUGE! anyways, it is a battle... but you

know it is something I know I will get through because I can

control the outcome. My therapist and I are working on me slowly

getting back out into society that I have hidden myself from for so

long. We are dealing with the deep rooted issues

> that have brought me to this moment and you know what.. I feel

like a weight is slowly lifting off of me. It's not easy and

it takes time, but you diserve this and it is worth the effort to

get there. I am not freaking out as much as I was before. I am

trying to take it in as it is normal for someone to be attracted to

another and that I don't have to respond if I don't want to.

>

> I highly suggest to everyone to have therapy just before and

after surgery to help recognize any issues that have held you back

throughout the years and to face those head on because if you don't

you are so right, it could all back fire. Like I said, the first

time a guy approached me in a store, I freaked and my first instinct

was to plaster the fat back on so he would not see me. My therapist

and this board helped me through that moment and will help me

through many more. I know you all know where I am coming from, that

makes such a difference in this healing process. Thank you!

>

> Shauna

>

>

> J Tro wrote:

> We have talked about this before and it is more common

than you think.

>

> I for one chose a counselor BEFORE surgery just to handle this

subject. It is very individualized. It is good to start addressing

them now.

>

> Jackie

>

> Wang wrote:

> I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about because

of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot. To

be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight. Now,

I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

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I am curious---have most of the people that have undergone WLS

struggled with weight their entire lives? In GastricBypass-

LOSERS@yGrowing up I was thin---incredibly thin. I figured out by

BMI from what I weighed as a teen and it was 16.9. Even after

having children (I had mine fairly young) I still never struggled

with weight and quite frankly, until it started piling on in my 30's

I never really understood obesity. I always thought it was a

problem relating to one's self-control. You know, " if you just push

back from the table you wouldn't be heavy. " Now that the shoe is

very definitely on the other foot, I realize that self-control has

little to do with it a great deal of the time. I have been

struggling for 10 years doing everything imaginable and I'm still

obese. I was just curious as to other's history as I've never

really discussed my obesity with anyone before.

le

Yahoogroups.com, Shauna Thalman wrote:

>

> and Group,

>

> I know EXACTLY!!! how you are feeling. Having problems with

men growing up, I fought with my weight as well. I did not want to

be attractive in their eyes. I have had therapy before surgery, but

did not start digging into this issue until right after surgery

because I recognized it then. Since surgery I have lost over 100 lbs

and now I get attention quite often. The first time I did I FREAKED

out honestly. I wanted to run in the other direction. A couple of

days ago my sister and I were in the store and this guy was checking

me out but I didn't notice. I am oblivious to it because, well its

been so long since I have seen people look at me because I looked

nice rather then OMG SHE " S HUGE! anyways, it is a battle... but you

know it is something I know I will get through because I can

control the outcome. My therapist and I are working on me slowly

getting back out into society that I have hidden myself from for so

long. We are dealing with the deep rooted issues

> that have brought me to this moment and you know what.. I feel

like a weight is slowly lifting off of me. It's not easy and

it takes time, but you diserve this and it is worth the effort to

get there. I am not freaking out as much as I was before. I am

trying to take it in as it is normal for someone to be attracted to

another and that I don't have to respond if I don't want to.

>

> I highly suggest to everyone to have therapy just before and

after surgery to help recognize any issues that have held you back

throughout the years and to face those head on because if you don't

you are so right, it could all back fire. Like I said, the first

time a guy approached me in a store, I freaked and my first instinct

was to plaster the fat back on so he would not see me. My therapist

and this board helped me through that moment and will help me

through many more. I know you all know where I am coming from, that

makes such a difference in this healing process. Thank you!

>

> Shauna

>

>

> J Tro wrote:

> We have talked about this before and it is more common

than you think.

>

> I for one chose a counselor BEFORE surgery just to handle this

subject. It is very individualized. It is good to start addressing

them now.

>

> Jackie

>

> Wang wrote:

> I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about because

of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot. To

be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight. Now,

I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

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I am curious---have most of the people that have undergone WLS

struggled with weight their entire lives? In GastricBypass-

LOSERS@yGrowing up I was thin---incredibly thin. I figured out by

BMI from what I weighed as a teen and it was 16.9. Even after

having children (I had mine fairly young) I still never struggled

with weight and quite frankly, until it started piling on in my 30's

I never really understood obesity. I always thought it was a

problem relating to one's self-control. You know, " if you just push

back from the table you wouldn't be heavy. " Now that the shoe is

very definitely on the other foot, I realize that self-control has

little to do with it a great deal of the time. I have been

struggling for 10 years doing everything imaginable and I'm still

obese. I was just curious as to other's history as I've never

really discussed my obesity with anyone before.

le

Yahoogroups.com, Shauna Thalman wrote:

>

> and Group,

>

> I know EXACTLY!!! how you are feeling. Having problems with

men growing up, I fought with my weight as well. I did not want to

be attractive in their eyes. I have had therapy before surgery, but

did not start digging into this issue until right after surgery

because I recognized it then. Since surgery I have lost over 100 lbs

and now I get attention quite often. The first time I did I FREAKED

out honestly. I wanted to run in the other direction. A couple of

days ago my sister and I were in the store and this guy was checking

me out but I didn't notice. I am oblivious to it because, well its

been so long since I have seen people look at me because I looked

nice rather then OMG SHE " S HUGE! anyways, it is a battle... but you

know it is something I know I will get through because I can

control the outcome. My therapist and I are working on me slowly

getting back out into society that I have hidden myself from for so

long. We are dealing with the deep rooted issues

> that have brought me to this moment and you know what.. I feel

like a weight is slowly lifting off of me. It's not easy and

it takes time, but you diserve this and it is worth the effort to

get there. I am not freaking out as much as I was before. I am

trying to take it in as it is normal for someone to be attracted to

another and that I don't have to respond if I don't want to.

>

> I highly suggest to everyone to have therapy just before and

after surgery to help recognize any issues that have held you back

throughout the years and to face those head on because if you don't

you are so right, it could all back fire. Like I said, the first

time a guy approached me in a store, I freaked and my first instinct

was to plaster the fat back on so he would not see me. My therapist

and this board helped me through that moment and will help me

through many more. I know you all know where I am coming from, that

makes such a difference in this healing process. Thank you!

>

> Shauna

>

>

> J Tro wrote:

> We have talked about this before and it is more common

than you think.

>

> I for one chose a counselor BEFORE surgery just to handle this

subject. It is very individualized. It is good to start addressing

them now.

>

> Jackie

>

> Wang wrote:

> I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about because

of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot. To

be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight. Now,

I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

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Thank you for providing a perfect segue into my theory on assholes

versus dicks. I thought this up a decade or so ago working the

midnight sort at UPS. I didn't like the idea that people were calling

me a dick sometimes so I sat down to determine just what I was and

what I (and consequently others) should be called. Most of my

thoughts here were arrived at by consensus and many minutes of

consulting with my co-workers and peers at the time. I feel this

analysis stands the test of time well because when I've explained

this theory to others recently they predominately agree.

First to separate the two terms, an asshole is someone who really

pisses you off but KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING. A dick can piss you off

just as much but is not aware that they're doing it. Obviously both

can be equally annoying and possibly more depending on your mood or

the circumstances at the time.

Once you've determined which of the two you're dealing with you can

go a step further and add a descriptive adjective to preface the

applicable term. The three choices are:

1. The phrase " kind of a(n) " or " sort of a(n) " . This is the

lowest form of either of these two types of people. Maybe it's that

they're not this way constantly or that you/others aren't constantly

experiencing them being that way. It's also possible they're only

that way in certain situations (around a certain person, the opposite

sex, when drinking, etc.)

2. The word " a " or " an " . This is your basic level person.

They're relatively consistent in their actions and can be counted on

to piss you off rather regularly. Maybe you can put up with them and

associate with them, maybe you can't. Again it may depend on what

sort of day/week you're having.

3. The word " complete " This is a fun one. A complete asshole is

usually avoided at all costs. Think about it, if someone is that

chronic and knows what they're doing to you and gets off on it then

why would you have ANY use for them at all? A complete dick is such

an annoyance that you can't possibly fathom how this person could not

be aware and know what they're doing. Surely they should qualify as

either a kind of an asshole or just a plain old asshole depending on

their severity of dickness.

Hey maybe I do analyze stuff too much but this was years ago and was

fun to pass the time at a dull job. It's pretty thorough, concise

and, I hope you'll agree, correct.

To turn the spotlight to me I really do hope I'm not much of either

of these two (six) types to folks in this forum. If/When I am I'd

like to think I'm either sort of an asshole or just an asshole. I

don't think I'm ever a dick of any sort as I know what I'm doing.

Some people have considered me a complete asshole but then I feel

they often bring that upon themselves by reacting so well and

repeatedly to my assholeness.

I, too, am glad I found this board. I love cottage cheese too. YUM!

Mike in GR

> I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about because

of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot. To

be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight. Now,

I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

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Thank you for providing a perfect segue into my theory on assholes

versus dicks. I thought this up a decade or so ago working the

midnight sort at UPS. I didn't like the idea that people were calling

me a dick sometimes so I sat down to determine just what I was and

what I (and consequently others) should be called. Most of my

thoughts here were arrived at by consensus and many minutes of

consulting with my co-workers and peers at the time. I feel this

analysis stands the test of time well because when I've explained

this theory to others recently they predominately agree.

First to separate the two terms, an asshole is someone who really

pisses you off but KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING. A dick can piss you off

just as much but is not aware that they're doing it. Obviously both

can be equally annoying and possibly more depending on your mood or

the circumstances at the time.

Once you've determined which of the two you're dealing with you can

go a step further and add a descriptive adjective to preface the

applicable term. The three choices are:

1. The phrase " kind of a(n) " or " sort of a(n) " . This is the

lowest form of either of these two types of people. Maybe it's that

they're not this way constantly or that you/others aren't constantly

experiencing them being that way. It's also possible they're only

that way in certain situations (around a certain person, the opposite

sex, when drinking, etc.)

2. The word " a " or " an " . This is your basic level person.

They're relatively consistent in their actions and can be counted on

to piss you off rather regularly. Maybe you can put up with them and

associate with them, maybe you can't. Again it may depend on what

sort of day/week you're having.

3. The word " complete " This is a fun one. A complete asshole is

usually avoided at all costs. Think about it, if someone is that

chronic and knows what they're doing to you and gets off on it then

why would you have ANY use for them at all? A complete dick is such

an annoyance that you can't possibly fathom how this person could not

be aware and know what they're doing. Surely they should qualify as

either a kind of an asshole or just a plain old asshole depending on

their severity of dickness.

Hey maybe I do analyze stuff too much but this was years ago and was

fun to pass the time at a dull job. It's pretty thorough, concise

and, I hope you'll agree, correct.

To turn the spotlight to me I really do hope I'm not much of either

of these two (six) types to folks in this forum. If/When I am I'd

like to think I'm either sort of an asshole or just an asshole. I

don't think I'm ever a dick of any sort as I know what I'm doing.

Some people have considered me a complete asshole but then I feel

they often bring that upon themselves by reacting so well and

repeatedly to my assholeness.

I, too, am glad I found this board. I love cottage cheese too. YUM!

Mike in GR

> I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about because

of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot. To

be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight. Now,

I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

>

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Thank you for providing a perfect segue into my theory on assholes

versus dicks. I thought this up a decade or so ago working the

midnight sort at UPS. I didn't like the idea that people were calling

me a dick sometimes so I sat down to determine just what I was and

what I (and consequently others) should be called. Most of my

thoughts here were arrived at by consensus and many minutes of

consulting with my co-workers and peers at the time. I feel this

analysis stands the test of time well because when I've explained

this theory to others recently they predominately agree.

First to separate the two terms, an asshole is someone who really

pisses you off but KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING. A dick can piss you off

just as much but is not aware that they're doing it. Obviously both

can be equally annoying and possibly more depending on your mood or

the circumstances at the time.

Once you've determined which of the two you're dealing with you can

go a step further and add a descriptive adjective to preface the

applicable term. The three choices are:

1. The phrase " kind of a(n) " or " sort of a(n) " . This is the

lowest form of either of these two types of people. Maybe it's that

they're not this way constantly or that you/others aren't constantly

experiencing them being that way. It's also possible they're only

that way in certain situations (around a certain person, the opposite

sex, when drinking, etc.)

2. The word " a " or " an " . This is your basic level person.

They're relatively consistent in their actions and can be counted on

to piss you off rather regularly. Maybe you can put up with them and

associate with them, maybe you can't. Again it may depend on what

sort of day/week you're having.

3. The word " complete " This is a fun one. A complete asshole is

usually avoided at all costs. Think about it, if someone is that

chronic and knows what they're doing to you and gets off on it then

why would you have ANY use for them at all? A complete dick is such

an annoyance that you can't possibly fathom how this person could not

be aware and know what they're doing. Surely they should qualify as

either a kind of an asshole or just a plain old asshole depending on

their severity of dickness.

Hey maybe I do analyze stuff too much but this was years ago and was

fun to pass the time at a dull job. It's pretty thorough, concise

and, I hope you'll agree, correct.

To turn the spotlight to me I really do hope I'm not much of either

of these two (six) types to folks in this forum. If/When I am I'd

like to think I'm either sort of an asshole or just an asshole. I

don't think I'm ever a dick of any sort as I know what I'm doing.

Some people have considered me a complete asshole but then I feel

they often bring that upon themselves by reacting so well and

repeatedly to my assholeness.

I, too, am glad I found this board. I love cottage cheese too. YUM!

Mike in GR

> I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about because

of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot. To

be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight. Now,

I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

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le,

I have always been overweight. I was slightly chubby in grade

schooland just got bigger and bigger. I lost a bunch of weight when I

was in highschool, I got down to 160. right after Highschool I

started piling it on agai. I tried every diet under the sun. This has

been the best thing I have EVER done. I have my life back.

Hugs!!!!

> > I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about

because

> of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

> attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot.

To

> be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

> overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

> out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight.

Now,

> I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

> weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

> about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

> >

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le,

I have always been overweight. I was slightly chubby in grade

schooland just got bigger and bigger. I lost a bunch of weight when I

was in highschool, I got down to 160. right after Highschool I

started piling it on agai. I tried every diet under the sun. This has

been the best thing I have EVER done. I have my life back.

Hugs!!!!

> > I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about

because

> of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

> attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot.

To

> be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

> overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

> out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight.

Now,

> I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

> weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

> about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

> >

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le,

I have always been overweight. I was slightly chubby in grade

schooland just got bigger and bigger. I lost a bunch of weight when I

was in highschool, I got down to 160. right after Highschool I

started piling it on agai. I tried every diet under the sun. This has

been the best thing I have EVER done. I have my life back.

Hugs!!!!

> > I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about

because

> of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

> attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot.

To

> be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

> overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

> out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight.

Now,

> I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

> weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

> about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

> >

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I've been heavy/husky all my life. This is one reason why my own

personal thoughts of a goal weight usually range in the high 20s BMI-

wise, which would still have me as overweight technically. I guess I

always picture myself that way and anything less would seems strange.

I do have a large frame, big feet, a big head (to store my rocks),

etc. Maybe that's just me excusing my premise that I'm overweight no

matter what.

My mother mutters things about medication she took while pregnant

with me but I'm not sure if that's just excuses. Then again they did

do some weird stuff in the 60s even with a doctor's supervision.

> > I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about

because

> of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

> attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a lot.

To

> be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As an

> overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the hell

> out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight.

Now,

> I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to goal

> weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought deeply

> about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

> >

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I love this Mike!!!

******Don't admire " lots of guys " . Admire the few that aren't

jackasses.*****************

It is so so so so true!!!!

Hugs!!!

> > > > > > I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about

> > > > because

> > > > > of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

> > > > > attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a

> > > lot.

> > > > To

> > > > > be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman.

As

> > an

> > > > > overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared

the

> > > hell

> > > > > out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining

> weight.

> > > > Now,

> > > > > I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to

> > goal

> > > > > weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought

> > > deeply

> > > > > about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about

it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Recent Activity

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I love this Mike!!!

******Don't admire " lots of guys " . Admire the few that aren't

jackasses.*****************

It is so so so so true!!!!

Hugs!!!

> > > > > > I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about

> > > > because

> > > > > of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

> > > > > attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a

> > > lot.

> > > > To

> > > > > be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman.

As

> > an

> > > > > overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared

the

> > > hell

> > > > > out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining

> weight.

> > > > Now,

> > > > > I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to

> > goal

> > > > > weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought

> > > deeply

> > > > > about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about

it.

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I hang out a lot with my friend Bill and his brother. They are good

southern boys. They are also a bit crass (at least in front of me

because we've known each other for 20 years) and I get almost a

running commentary on any women we see when we are out.

I find their taste in women interesting and sometimes even pursue it

by asking their opinions of celebrities. To their credit, they have

never called any of the anorexic women hot. However, they are

attracted more to the skinnier women that don't have a lot of shape. I

think the women with hips, chests and muscles (like Garner or

Angelina Jolie) are much more attractive (they don't disagree on the

chest part) than someone like Carmen . I guess if I had the figure

I wanted, I wouldn't be considered hot by their standards. But I think

I'll manage ;-)

in MI

> > > > > I have a sort of odd question that I've only thought about

> > > because

> > > > of this thread. As a larger woman, I don't get a ton of male

> > > > attention. Friendly male attention. I do get some, but not a

> > lot.

> > > To

> > > > be honest, it's part of the reason I became a large woman. As

> an

> > > > overdeveloped teen, I got too much attention and it scared the

> > hell

> > > > out of me. So I wore larger clothes and started gaining weight.

> > > Now,

> > > > I'm an adult. What if I can't deal with it when I'm down to

> goal

> > > > weight? Anyone with similar issues. I really hadn't thought

> > deeply

> > > > about it, but it could sabotage me if I don't think about it.

> > > > >

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> > > > > New Files

> > > > >

> > > > > Visit Your Group

> > > > >

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