Re:vitamin A Suzi, Cherl1b

[Guest guest]

I take it that the " the full natural vitamin A molecule " you are

talking about is the Vit A in CLO, is it?

I'm wondering at the minute is CLO with nat VIT A is better than pure

EPA and VitA supplements.

Is there another natural form of VitA as you say beta carotine isn't

and is poorly converted.

Thanks ( good messages by the way)

Cathal

> > > Please just keep in mind that some of the major research done

on

> > the

> > > toxicity of vitamin A did not distinguish between natural forms

> > that

> > > include all the co-factors of the complex molecules, and

> > manufactured

> > > retinol - just one derivative of the vit. A complex. And this

> > single

> > > manufactured component (retinol) is known to cause birth

defects.

> > Not

> > > that natural vit. A cannot be toxic in extremely high doses,

but

> > it

> > > can't necessarily be interchanged with synthetic forms when

> > > discussing toxic doses.

> > >

> > > Also keep in mind that beta carotene and other carotenes are

NOT

> > > vitamin A - they are precursors that *some* people can convert

to

> > > true vitamin A under optimal conditions

> >

> >

> > Vitamin A is more toxic since it doesn't need to be converted.

>

> It is toxic only in excess, not per se. Aside from that, my point

was

> that one cannot depend on carotenes as a vitamin A source, due to

all

> the factors that interfere with conversion (and the fact that it

> requires large amounts of carotenes to make moderate amounts of

vit.

> A). Babies and children for example are poor converters. Many

common

> health conditions also interfere with conversion, and it seems

quite

> likely that Autistic children are probably poor converters, not

only

> because they are children, but due to bacterial dysbiosis which may

> interfere with conversion.

>

> Based on studies that did not differentiate between the synthetic

> derivative retinol (known to cause birth defects) and the full

> natural vitamin A molecule, our govt. has trotted out the scare

> tactics about vitamin A. This is the info most Americans are

exposed

> to. This unreasonable and non-evidence based theory needs to be

> questioned and not taken at face value.

>

> Having said that, I'm not encouraging anyone to load their children

> up with outrageous amounts of vitamin A!

>

> Suze

[Guest guest]

> I take it that the " the full natural vitamin A molecule " you are

> talking about is the Vit A in CLO, is it?

> I'm wondering at the minute is CLO with nat VIT A is better than

pure

> EPA and VitA supplements.

> Is there another natural form of VitA as you say beta carotine

isn't

> and is poorly converted.

> Thanks ( good messages by the way)

> Cathal

Hi Catha1,

It's harder to overdose with beta-carotene and easiest to do with

the Water-miscible, emulsified, and solid forms of retinol

supplements.

[Guest guest]

> I take it that the " the full natural vitamin A molecule " you are

> talking about is the Vit A in CLO, is it?

Yep.

> I'm wondering at the minute is CLO with nat VIT A is better than

pure

> EPA and VitA supplements.

Yes, not only because it's the full natural vitamin A molecule but

also because CLO contains DHA not just EPA, and DHA is essential for

proper brain function, among other things.

> Is there another natural form of VitA as you say beta carotine

isn't

> and is poorly converted.

> Thanks ( good messages by the way)

> Cathal

There are many natural food sources, but CLO is the most

concentrated. Next would be liver (lamb and beef are high in Vit.A).

Other food sources are butter, cream, cheese and milk from grass-fed

cows, eggs from pastured poultry and fatty wild fish.

But none of these except liver has the amount that CLO does, which is

why it's good to use CLO for therapeutic purposes. By far the best

brand that I'm aware of is the " high vitamin cod live oil " from

either http://www.greenpasture.org/ or

http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/index.htm. They have different

names on the label, but it's the same product. This CLO has much

higher levels of vits A and D than other brands so you have to adjust

the amount you take. I believe I've been told that the one at the

first link is palatable to kids due to the lemon and spearmint oil in

it.

Suze