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Oh, I have had days like that. is 8 and he

still ikes to run around nude; at least now he only

does it inside.

Hope tomorrow is better, hon.

Tuna

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I clean him up and then it's back to the salt mines...

the table and the clothes jumping off the table and

throwing the clothes. Fun, huh? I figure he'd like to

play outside in the backyard. Little blond man running

back and forth in the back yard. Look no clothes!

Bring him inside and redress him, then it's back to

the table and the half folded clothes. Ugh. This goes

on for about 15 minutes until I send him outside again

and there he is 10 minutes later completely stark

raving nude. It's not that cold out but cool enough to

not be naked, you know?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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How much patience you have, for instance.

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Oh, I have had days like that. is 8 and he

still ikes to run around nude; at least now he only

does it inside.

Hope tomorrow is better, hon.

Tuna

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I clean him up and then it's back to the salt mines...

the table and the clothes jumping off the table and

throwing the clothes. Fun, huh? I figure he'd like to

play outside in the backyard. Little blond man running

back and forth in the back yard. Look no clothes!

Bring him inside and redress him, then it's back to

the table and the half folded clothes. Ugh. This goes

on for about 15 minutes until I send him outside again

and there he is 10 minutes later completely stark

raving nude. It's not that cold out but cool enough to

not be naked, you know?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

=====

You can learn many things from children.

How much patience you have, for instance.

- lin P.

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BTDT. Don't like it much myself either. Can you gate yourself in a

room with him or lock yourself in a room with him? Preferably a room

with a VCR and a place you can lie down and pretend to be awake,

that is reasonably safe? I SO sympathize with you. Try to get some

rest as best you can.

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Nope, Mr. Climber is not to be gated by anything. This is the child climbing the

six foot fence. Ugh. At least he's not in a running mood right now.

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Re: The Day from Hell...

BTDT. Don't like it much myself either. Can you gate yourself in a

room with him or lock yourself in a room with him? Preferably a room

with a VCR and a place you can lie down and pretend to be awake,

that is reasonably safe? I SO sympathize with you. Try to get some

rest as best you can.

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{{{{{{{{{{{{Debbi}}}}}}}}}}}} ... I'm speechless because if I had any answers

for you then I wouldn't be so tired too. I'm sorry I can't help you but I

can be here for you with open arms and good ears and shoulders.

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Doh! This sounds just like Zach! I'm buying melatonin today!

> We've been trying melatonin for the past few days and the dose was

too low the first day but I got it pretty close yesterday. Buster

woke up at 6:00am, not bad. He started the day with his usual running

around checking all the security devices to make sure someone hadn't

forgotten anything unlocked so he could go play where he wasn't

supposed to.

>

> That being done, he decided to jump off of the dining room table--

over and over--which now has the hanging light too high to reach. He

found the clean laundry in the baskets and threw it all over the

room. Ugh. Okay, so I pick it up and don't put it away quite yet.

Breakfast was an ordeal, he decided he was having none of his usuals.

Everything was tossed on the floor. Double Ugh. Finally he settles

for cereal with marshmallows in it. Then after the cereal was gone

proceeded to dump the milk on his head.

>

> I clean him up and then it's back to the salt mines... the table

and the clothes jumping off the table and throwing the clothes. Fun,

huh? I figure he'd like to play outside in the backyard. Little blond

man running back and forth in the back yard. Look no clothes! Bring

him inside and redress him, then it's back to the table and the half

folded clothes. Ugh. This goes on for about 15 minutes until I send

him outside again and there he is 10 minutes later completely stark

raving nude. It's not that cold out but cool enough to not be naked,

you know?

>

> Back in the house. Do you want to watch a movie. We put on his

favorite and he's BORED with it. Ugh. I got the clothes in the

drawers now. But look, Ma, I can open drawers. Clothes everywhere,

again.

>

> All he wants to do is run and jump off the table (of course, the

clothes are fun, too.) At lunch, he doesn't like what we're having

again and dumps it. So we get him some more cereal, but we had run

out of what we had this morning (IOW no marshmallows). Nope this

won't do, I barely catch it before it too is on the floor. Let's try

outside one more time.

>

> Running and running and now add climbing on top of the file cabinet

in the back yard. Opening the drawers and dispering the papers. Nude,

again.

>

> Back inside the house, he is not happy with anything except the

stupid table. After about an hour he finds a security breech and is

in the laundry room. ARGH! Get off that, don't do that!! So we try

the video again, and that's cool for about 10 minutes. But he wants

to run and get into things today. So he's running up and down the

stairs, checking his photograph, then back up the stairs, again and

again, except this time he's found that the picture has glass and

that's interesting. I caught him before he got to far with that

noise.

>

> About 4:00 this evening he decides he must take a bath. Fine, we go

in there and after about 5 minutes I start washing his hair, pouring

water on his head, which is also fine. But.... he's falling asleep!

WTF! I'm pouring water on him and his is really sleeping. Fine, take

a nap, I'll wake you in an hour. Nope... I tried at 5, 6, 7 and 8 I

figured that's that, it's a long night for me. So guess what? It's

10:15 and we're starting a new day--he's AWAKE, bright eyed and bushy

tailed. Triple Ugh!

>

> debbi

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Doh! This sounds just like Zach! I'm buying melatonin today!

> We've been trying melatonin for the past few days and the dose was

too low the first day but I got it pretty close yesterday. Buster

woke up at 6:00am, not bad. He started the day with his usual running

around checking all the security devices to make sure someone hadn't

forgotten anything unlocked so he could go play where he wasn't

supposed to.

>

> That being done, he decided to jump off of the dining room table--

over and over--which now has the hanging light too high to reach. He

found the clean laundry in the baskets and threw it all over the

room. Ugh. Okay, so I pick it up and don't put it away quite yet.

Breakfast was an ordeal, he decided he was having none of his usuals.

Everything was tossed on the floor. Double Ugh. Finally he settles

for cereal with marshmallows in it. Then after the cereal was gone

proceeded to dump the milk on his head.

>

> I clean him up and then it's back to the salt mines... the table

and the clothes jumping off the table and throwing the clothes. Fun,

huh? I figure he'd like to play outside in the backyard. Little blond

man running back and forth in the back yard. Look no clothes! Bring

him inside and redress him, then it's back to the table and the half

folded clothes. Ugh. This goes on for about 15 minutes until I send

him outside again and there he is 10 minutes later completely stark

raving nude. It's not that cold out but cool enough to not be naked,

you know?

>

> Back in the house. Do you want to watch a movie. We put on his

favorite and he's BORED with it. Ugh. I got the clothes in the

drawers now. But look, Ma, I can open drawers. Clothes everywhere,

again.

>

> All he wants to do is run and jump off the table (of course, the

clothes are fun, too.) At lunch, he doesn't like what we're having

again and dumps it. So we get him some more cereal, but we had run

out of what we had this morning (IOW no marshmallows). Nope this

won't do, I barely catch it before it too is on the floor. Let's try

outside one more time.

>

> Running and running and now add climbing on top of the file cabinet

in the back yard. Opening the drawers and dispering the papers. Nude,

again.

>

> Back inside the house, he is not happy with anything except the

stupid table. After about an hour he finds a security breech and is

in the laundry room. ARGH! Get off that, don't do that!! So we try

the video again, and that's cool for about 10 minutes. But he wants

to run and get into things today. So he's running up and down the

stairs, checking his photograph, then back up the stairs, again and

again, except this time he's found that the picture has glass and

that's interesting. I caught him before he got to far with that

noise.

>

> About 4:00 this evening he decides he must take a bath. Fine, we go

in there and after about 5 minutes I start washing his hair, pouring

water on his head, which is also fine. But.... he's falling asleep!

WTF! I'm pouring water on him and his is really sleeping. Fine, take

a nap, I'll wake you in an hour. Nope... I tried at 5, 6, 7 and 8 I

figured that's that, it's a long night for me. So guess what? It's

10:15 and we're starting a new day--he's AWAKE, bright eyed and bushy

tailed. Triple Ugh!

>

> debbi

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Ooohhh, Debbi. I so feel for you. We've been there. Well, wihtout the

outside option, cause we live in an apartment and is a runner,

but...yeah. We've been there.

I will go find that OT post right now and send it to the list. It sounds

like Buster was having a major sensory day and perhaps the water finally

calmed him enough to feel how exhausted he was. used to fall asleep

in the swimming pool. No kidding. We'd put him in a float and he'd nap in

it. This was pre-dx and we thought it was the funniest thing...Mikey +

water = sleep! Too weird.

Water provides wonderful deep pressure -- sensory input all over the body --

very calming to the nervous system. Jumping provides joint compressions

which are also calming. Ditto running. For a long time 's

pre-bedtime routine was to run up and down the hall, and jump when he got to

each end. It seems counter-intuitive; these things should wind kids up, not

calm them down! But our kids need that sensory input in order to feel in

control of their bodies.

This will happen with sometimes when he is getting sick, and often

when there are weather changes. Fall a year ago was a horrid, horrid

time...

On the waking up -- I have been quite mean in order to get to wake

up so that we can both sleep that night. Stripping him, rubbing him with

cold baby wipes on his chest and back and face, getting into the shower with

him, playing very loud music, even holding him upside-down...It depends how

severe your sleep deprivation is...it has gotten pretty darn bad around here

so I had a lot of motivation.

It will get better. It really will.

I hope you are asleep...

-Sara.

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I have to agree with the subject. The day from Hell… I wish you better

days from now on. Somehow I doubt it wont happen again.

{{{{{{{{{{{Debbi}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Cecilia, from Peru (mom to Dessiree 3½ yo, no dx yet some autistic

traits)

Lovely husband

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De: debbi

Enviado el: Jueves, 06 de Febrero de 2003 12:59 a.m.

Para: debbi@...

Asunto: The Day from Hell...

We've been trying melatonin for the past few days and the dose was too

low the first day but I got it pretty close yesterday. Buster woke up at

6:00am, not bad. He started the day with his usual running around

checking all the security devices to make sure someone hadn't forgotten

anything unlocked so he could go play where he wasn't supposed to.

That being done, he decided to jump off of the dining room table--over

and over--which now has the hanging light too high to reach. He found

the clean laundry in the baskets and threw it all over the room. Ugh.

Okay, so I pick it up and don't put it away quite yet. Breakfast was an

ordeal, he decided he was having none of his usuals. Everything was

tossed on the floor. Double Ugh. Finally he settles for cereal with

marshmallows in it. Then after the cereal was gone proceeded to dump the

milk on his head.

I clean him up and then it's back to the salt mines... the table and the

clothes jumping off the table and throwing the clothes. Fun, huh? I

figure he'd like to play outside in the backyard. Little blond man

running back and forth in the back yard. Look no clothes! Bring him

inside and redress him, then it's back to the table and the half folded

clothes. Ugh. This goes on for about 15 minutes until I send him outside

again and there he is 10 minutes later completely stark raving nude.

It's not that cold out but cool enough to not be naked, you know?

Back in the house. Do you want to watch a movie. We put on his favorite

and he's BORED with it. Ugh. I got the clothes in the drawers now. But

look, Ma, I can open drawers. Clothes everywhere, again.

All he wants to do is run and jump off the table (of course, the clothes

are fun, too.) At lunch, he doesn't like what we're having again and

dumps it. So we get him some more cereal, but we had run out of what we

had this morning (IOW no marshmallows). Nope this won't do, I barely

catch it before it too is on the floor. Let's try outside one more time.

Running and running and now add climbing on top of the file cabinet in

the back yard. Opening the drawers and dispering the papers. Nude,

again.

Back inside the house, he is not happy with anything except the stupid

table. After about an hour he finds a security breech and is in the

laundry room. ARGH! Get off that, don't do that!! So we try the video

again, and that's cool for about 10 minutes. But he wants to run and get

into things today. So he's running up and down the stairs, checking his

photograph, then back up the stairs, again and again, except this time

he's found that the picture has glass and that's interesting. I caught

him before he got to far with that noise.

About 4:00 this evening he decides he must take a bath. Fine, we go in

there and after about 5 minutes I start washing his hair, pouring water

on his head, which is also fine. But.... he's falling asleep! WTF! I'm

pouring water on him and his is really sleeping. Fine, take a nap, I'll

wake you in an hour. Nope... I tried at 5, 6, 7 and 8 I figured that's

that, it's a long night for me. So guess what? It's 10:15 and we're

starting a new day--he's AWAKE, bright eyed and bushy tailed. Triple

Ugh!

debbi

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Debbi,

You're right, it sounds like a day from Hell!

Have you tried a trampoline or swings for Buster for other movement ideas?

used to empty dressers too just so he could throw the clothes up in

the air and watch them fall to the floor.

How about a small sandbox? The kids usually love to watch the sand run

through a funnel or through their fingers. You could use a shallow storage

tote to keep the sand in and cover it when not in use (in the backyard of

course).

Sue

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Oh, DEBBI.

Condolences. I have only had a day or two like that, and man, I do NOT envy

your yesterday.

How are you both today? (imagining Buster is just peachy-keen and you feel

like death warmed over)

Jacquie

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