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In a message dated 2/26/2004 11:35:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,

bodiedk@... writes:

I have a lot of problems with my shoulders, hip, back, neck, ankles and

wrists.

Me too!

Happy to have you join!

You will find love and understanding and lots of good information here.

We are being a bit goofy with all the tattoo stuff right now ... it is a

relief sometimes not to be so serious. But you will find when the need to

buckle

down arises we are here!

Blessings!

Debbi

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In a message dated 2/26/2004 11:35:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,

bodiedk@... writes:

I have a lot of problems with my shoulders, hip, back, neck, ankles and

wrists.

Me too!

Happy to have you join!

You will find love and understanding and lots of good information here.

We are being a bit goofy with all the tattoo stuff right now ... it is a

relief sometimes not to be so serious. But you will find when the need to

buckle

down arises we are here!

Blessings!

Debbi

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Hei Tanja,

Supert å se deg her!!!! Kjempekoselig!!!!

Tee-hee... Just a tiny bit Norwegian for a Great

Dane, he-he (no pun intended, Tanja!!!) How cool,

I am not good at playing with the English

language at all, but this one was too obvious

even for me... :)

It is so great to see you here, Tanja!!! You'll

soon learn to love these guys, they are just

great!!! Poor you, came here at a time where I

make such a mess with my crazy suggestions of

what to do while in Buffalo, he-he... :) I am

sure we'll have a great day going off to the pet

supermarket to buy stuff for my cutie Yorkie

Peanut, Sue's three cute Poodles and other EDSers

pooches too... After that it is off to the Tattoo

artist for a while of what us EDSers aren't

supposed to do, he-he... :) Actually I started

the whole thing by suggesting that Sue's friend

the Tattoo artist, maybe could straighten a

tattoo I got in Denmark before Christmas. Either

the Tattoo artist was a bit too drunk, or my EDS

tissues made the edges of the tattoo a bit

wobbly... He-he...

Great with a fellow Scandinavian here on the CEDA

list (even if Canada " adopted " you:)

Talk to you later!!!!

Aase Marit :)

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Hei Tanja,

Supert å se deg her!!!! Kjempekoselig!!!!

Tee-hee... Just a tiny bit Norwegian for a Great

Dane, he-he (no pun intended, Tanja!!!) How cool,

I am not good at playing with the English

language at all, but this one was too obvious

even for me... :)

It is so great to see you here, Tanja!!! You'll

soon learn to love these guys, they are just

great!!! Poor you, came here at a time where I

make such a mess with my crazy suggestions of

what to do while in Buffalo, he-he... :) I am

sure we'll have a great day going off to the pet

supermarket to buy stuff for my cutie Yorkie

Peanut, Sue's three cute Poodles and other EDSers

pooches too... After that it is off to the Tattoo

artist for a while of what us EDSers aren't

supposed to do, he-he... :) Actually I started

the whole thing by suggesting that Sue's friend

the Tattoo artist, maybe could straighten a

tattoo I got in Denmark before Christmas. Either

the Tattoo artist was a bit too drunk, or my EDS

tissues made the edges of the tattoo a bit

wobbly... He-he...

Great with a fellow Scandinavian here on the CEDA

list (even if Canada " adopted " you:)

Talk to you later!!!!

Aase Marit :)

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Hei Tanja,

Supert å se deg her!!!! Kjempekoselig!!!!

Tee-hee... Just a tiny bit Norwegian for a Great

Dane, he-he (no pun intended, Tanja!!!) How cool,

I am not good at playing with the English

language at all, but this one was too obvious

even for me... :)

It is so great to see you here, Tanja!!! You'll

soon learn to love these guys, they are just

great!!! Poor you, came here at a time where I

make such a mess with my crazy suggestions of

what to do while in Buffalo, he-he... :) I am

sure we'll have a great day going off to the pet

supermarket to buy stuff for my cutie Yorkie

Peanut, Sue's three cute Poodles and other EDSers

pooches too... After that it is off to the Tattoo

artist for a while of what us EDSers aren't

supposed to do, he-he... :) Actually I started

the whole thing by suggesting that Sue's friend

the Tattoo artist, maybe could straighten a

tattoo I got in Denmark before Christmas. Either

the Tattoo artist was a bit too drunk, or my EDS

tissues made the edges of the tattoo a bit

wobbly... He-he...

Great with a fellow Scandinavian here on the CEDA

list (even if Canada " adopted " you:)

Talk to you later!!!!

Aase Marit :)

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Tanja

Welcome and I just wanted to let you know that I am from Calgary. I have

recently been diagnosed with vascular EDS. I also will not be going to the

conference as we have other travel plans for the summer. What doctors have

you been to?? If you want to email off list feel free.

Betty

Introducing myself

> Hi every one

>

> My name is Tanja Nedergaard, I have been in this group now for about 2

weeks.

>

> Reading all the mails everyday was hard to begin with but I just tjeck my

mail at least twice a day.

>

> Well I'm 24, married, live in Calgary, so if there's anyone from Calgary,

I would love to meet You. Because I wont be able to go to the conference in

Buffalo.

>

> I was diagnosed with the EDS III 10 days before I gave birth to my son, He

is now 19 months.

> My husband is also very flexible, but he does not have any problems so he

is probably just hypermobile.

>

> I have a lot of problems with my shoulders, hip, back, neck, ancles and

wrists.

>

> I am trying to find some medicine to cope with my cronic pain, and I want

to get off the Neurontin, it doesn't work for me.Does any of You have

suggestions that I can give my doctor. She is a really good doctor, if I

have any suggestions she tjecks them out and tells me what she thinks about

it/ them.

>

> And before I go...I just want to say Hi to Aase Marit and Cindy C, thank

You for being so sweet to me.

> Tanja, Calgary

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

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Dear Tanja,

Welcome, welcome :-)) First, may I ask how you pronounce your name? Is it

said as Ta - n - ya or Tan - ja?

You asked about medicines that help. I know that was the very first

question I asked as well :-) Unfortunately there is no straight answer. Everyone

is different and reacts differently. Some can do fine on over the counter meds,

others with one strong narcotic and others who mees to take multiple types of

meds.

The best thing would be to get to a pain management doc. But if that can't

be done I suggest you see if you can classify your worst pains - are the nerve

pain, muscle etc.? If you can not classify them then you probably would do best

on an overall pain reducing med. rather than a couple different meds for

different pains. Once you find one med that works for you you can always

supplement it to help tweak things, like taking a relaxant at night to help

sleep etc.

As with anything else, start with the lighter stuff and see how you react,

working your way to stronger meds if needed. The drug classes used by many are -

NSAIDS (Tylenol, Ultram etc.), anti-inflammatories (like celebrex) and opiates

(oxycodone, percocet, morphine, fentenyal etc.). Of course there are others like

relaxents and nerve pain meds as well.

You did not state in your mail if you have tried any opiates. Be aware that

there are some who just can not tolerate them. If you have never tried them

before the doc should start off with a mild opiate to test.

Another important thing - side effects. As long as you can tolerant them

give any medication at least 2 weeks before giving up on it. Most times most

side effects will lessen and even go away all together and you should get an

idea if they are easing up within that 2 week time frame.

I hope you can find something that works for you. My Fentenyal patches have

been a life saver!

Juts in case you don't know - there is also a digest version of the emails.

It packs up to 25 emails in one mail and has like a table of contents at the top

listing each email's subject and who it is from. This way you can scan the top

list and then jump to any emails you'd like to read. If you'd like to try it I

believe you just write to Jill and ask to switch to the digest. If you don't

like it you can always go back.

Again welcome! Sorry for the long post but I was trying to help with your

question :-) I wish you luck!

Hugs,

B.

HEDS, New Jersey, USA

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Dear Tanja,

Welcome, welcome :-)) First, may I ask how you pronounce your name? Is it

said as Ta - n - ya or Tan - ja?

You asked about medicines that help. I know that was the very first

question I asked as well :-) Unfortunately there is no straight answer. Everyone

is different and reacts differently. Some can do fine on over the counter meds,

others with one strong narcotic and others who mees to take multiple types of

meds.

The best thing would be to get to a pain management doc. But if that can't

be done I suggest you see if you can classify your worst pains - are the nerve

pain, muscle etc.? If you can not classify them then you probably would do best

on an overall pain reducing med. rather than a couple different meds for

different pains. Once you find one med that works for you you can always

supplement it to help tweak things, like taking a relaxant at night to help

sleep etc.

As with anything else, start with the lighter stuff and see how you react,

working your way to stronger meds if needed. The drug classes used by many are -

NSAIDS (Tylenol, Ultram etc.), anti-inflammatories (like celebrex) and opiates

(oxycodone, percocet, morphine, fentenyal etc.). Of course there are others like

relaxents and nerve pain meds as well.

You did not state in your mail if you have tried any opiates. Be aware that

there are some who just can not tolerate them. If you have never tried them

before the doc should start off with a mild opiate to test.

Another important thing - side effects. As long as you can tolerant them

give any medication at least 2 weeks before giving up on it. Most times most

side effects will lessen and even go away all together and you should get an

idea if they are easing up within that 2 week time frame.

I hope you can find something that works for you. My Fentenyal patches have

been a life saver!

Juts in case you don't know - there is also a digest version of the emails.

It packs up to 25 emails in one mail and has like a table of contents at the top

listing each email's subject and who it is from. This way you can scan the top

list and then jump to any emails you'd like to read. If you'd like to try it I

believe you just write to Jill and ask to switch to the digest. If you don't

like it you can always go back.

Again welcome! Sorry for the long post but I was trying to help with your

question :-) I wish you luck!

Hugs,

B.

HEDS, New Jersey, USA

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Dear Tanja,

Welcome, welcome :-)) First, may I ask how you pronounce your name? Is it

said as Ta - n - ya or Tan - ja?

You asked about medicines that help. I know that was the very first

question I asked as well :-) Unfortunately there is no straight answer. Everyone

is different and reacts differently. Some can do fine on over the counter meds,

others with one strong narcotic and others who mees to take multiple types of

meds.

The best thing would be to get to a pain management doc. But if that can't

be done I suggest you see if you can classify your worst pains - are the nerve

pain, muscle etc.? If you can not classify them then you probably would do best

on an overall pain reducing med. rather than a couple different meds for

different pains. Once you find one med that works for you you can always

supplement it to help tweak things, like taking a relaxant at night to help

sleep etc.

As with anything else, start with the lighter stuff and see how you react,

working your way to stronger meds if needed. The drug classes used by many are -

NSAIDS (Tylenol, Ultram etc.), anti-inflammatories (like celebrex) and opiates

(oxycodone, percocet, morphine, fentenyal etc.). Of course there are others like

relaxents and nerve pain meds as well.

You did not state in your mail if you have tried any opiates. Be aware that

there are some who just can not tolerate them. If you have never tried them

before the doc should start off with a mild opiate to test.

Another important thing - side effects. As long as you can tolerant them

give any medication at least 2 weeks before giving up on it. Most times most

side effects will lessen and even go away all together and you should get an

idea if they are easing up within that 2 week time frame.

I hope you can find something that works for you. My Fentenyal patches have

been a life saver!

Juts in case you don't know - there is also a digest version of the emails.

It packs up to 25 emails in one mail and has like a table of contents at the top

listing each email's subject and who it is from. This way you can scan the top

list and then jump to any emails you'd like to read. If you'd like to try it I

believe you just write to Jill and ask to switch to the digest. If you don't

like it you can always go back.

Again welcome! Sorry for the long post but I was trying to help with your

question :-) I wish you luck!

Hugs,

B.

HEDS, New Jersey, USA

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Welcome! I'm sorry you have reason to be here, but very glad you discovered

us. You have certainly come to the right place because there are a number

of IgAN women on this list who have successfully given birth to healthy

babies (some of which are now grown up!). I'm sure one of them will weigh

in and address your questions. You can find more info at www.igan.ca

Scroll down about half way through the opening page - there is section

entitled " IgA Nephropathy Notebook " which has a link on pregnancy and IgAN.

I'm no doc, but I can't imagine mixing pred and pregnancy. Was that your

neph or OB-GYN? You were wise to question that. I'd run that one by them

again.

Cy

Introducing myself

>

>

>

> Hi there!

>

> I'm a new member in this group.

>

> I'm 28 years old woman and I was diagnosed with IgA two years ago

> (after various mis-diagnosis and running in different doctors). I'm

> coping well physically as my symptoms are still very lame and my

> kidneys are functioning well.

>

> My biggest " problem " is that we were planning pregnancy just before

> I got ill and now I finally got the permission to start trying again

> (well, that's not the problem :)). The problem is that I'm very

> scared about all the things that might go wrong (with me or with the

> baby). Does anyone have experience on pregnancy with IgA?

>

> Although the doctors have given me the permission to get pregnant,

> I'm a bit doubtful.. What if my symptoms get worse and I can't start

> medication because of the baby...? Or what if I'm forced to abort

> the pregnancy to be able to start medication (I think I couldn't do

> that in no matter what!).

>

> My doctor said that for example Prednisol is safe for the baby but

> it says otherwise in the package. I'm so confused.

>

> Well, this was supposed to be an introducing mail but it came out to

> be like this... Thanks for reading :)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group

> home page:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/

>

> To unsubcribe via email,

> iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe

> Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported

by donations. If you would like to help, go to:

> http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

>

> Thank you

>

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Welcome! I'm sorry you have reason to be here, but very glad you discovered

us. You have certainly come to the right place because there are a number

of IgAN women on this list who have successfully given birth to healthy

babies (some of which are now grown up!). I'm sure one of them will weigh

in and address your questions. You can find more info at www.igan.ca

Scroll down about half way through the opening page - there is section

entitled " IgA Nephropathy Notebook " which has a link on pregnancy and IgAN.

I'm no doc, but I can't imagine mixing pred and pregnancy. Was that your

neph or OB-GYN? You were wise to question that. I'd run that one by them

again.

Cy

Introducing myself

>

>

>

> Hi there!

>

> I'm a new member in this group.

>

> I'm 28 years old woman and I was diagnosed with IgA two years ago

> (after various mis-diagnosis and running in different doctors). I'm

> coping well physically as my symptoms are still very lame and my

> kidneys are functioning well.

>

> My biggest " problem " is that we were planning pregnancy just before

> I got ill and now I finally got the permission to start trying again

> (well, that's not the problem :)). The problem is that I'm very

> scared about all the things that might go wrong (with me or with the

> baby). Does anyone have experience on pregnancy with IgA?

>

> Although the doctors have given me the permission to get pregnant,

> I'm a bit doubtful.. What if my symptoms get worse and I can't start

> medication because of the baby...? Or what if I'm forced to abort

> the pregnancy to be able to start medication (I think I couldn't do

> that in no matter what!).

>

> My doctor said that for example Prednisol is safe for the baby but

> it says otherwise in the package. I'm so confused.

>

> Well, this was supposed to be an introducing mail but it came out to

> be like this... Thanks for reading :)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group

> home page:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/

>

> To unsubcribe via email,

> iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe

> Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported

by donations. If you would like to help, go to:

> http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

>

> Thank you

>

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Welcome! I'm sorry you have reason to be here, but very glad you discovered

us. You have certainly come to the right place because there are a number

of IgAN women on this list who have successfully given birth to healthy

babies (some of which are now grown up!). I'm sure one of them will weigh

in and address your questions. You can find more info at www.igan.ca

Scroll down about half way through the opening page - there is section

entitled " IgA Nephropathy Notebook " which has a link on pregnancy and IgAN.

I'm no doc, but I can't imagine mixing pred and pregnancy. Was that your

neph or OB-GYN? You were wise to question that. I'd run that one by them

again.

Cy

Introducing myself

>

>

>

> Hi there!

>

> I'm a new member in this group.

>

> I'm 28 years old woman and I was diagnosed with IgA two years ago

> (after various mis-diagnosis and running in different doctors). I'm

> coping well physically as my symptoms are still very lame and my

> kidneys are functioning well.

>

> My biggest " problem " is that we were planning pregnancy just before

> I got ill and now I finally got the permission to start trying again

> (well, that's not the problem :)). The problem is that I'm very

> scared about all the things that might go wrong (with me or with the

> baby). Does anyone have experience on pregnancy with IgA?

>

> Although the doctors have given me the permission to get pregnant,

> I'm a bit doubtful.. What if my symptoms get worse and I can't start

> medication because of the baby...? Or what if I'm forced to abort

> the pregnancy to be able to start medication (I think I couldn't do

> that in no matter what!).

>

> My doctor said that for example Prednisol is safe for the baby but

> it says otherwise in the package. I'm so confused.

>

> Well, this was supposed to be an introducing mail but it came out to

> be like this... Thanks for reading :)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group

> home page:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/

>

> To unsubcribe via email,

> iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe

> Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported

by donations. If you would like to help, go to:

> http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

>

> Thank you

>

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Thank you, Cy, very much for the helpful link to the pregnancy and

IgAN -page. It eased my scares, at least a bit :)

It really was my neph who told that pred is suitable when pregnant,

but I really do question that and when I have my appointment next

week I sure will ask about that!

I would appreciate very much if someone could write about their own

experiences when pregnant. Especially if there was something that

went wrong and how did you dealt with it (if you find strenght

enough to write about it).

Essi

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Thank you, Cy, very much for the helpful link to the pregnancy and

IgAN -page. It eased my scares, at least a bit :)

It really was my neph who told that pred is suitable when pregnant,

but I really do question that and when I have my appointment next

week I sure will ask about that!

I would appreciate very much if someone could write about their own

experiences when pregnant. Especially if there was something that

went wrong and how did you dealt with it (if you find strenght

enough to write about it).

Essi

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Thanks for posting in ! It is always helpful for others to hear stories

like yours.

Cy

Schorn wrote:

Hi,

I had 3 successful pregnancies and have IgA. I was never once advised

that it would not be safe. But then again I was not taking any

medications at all for the IgA. No need, as it was quite early stage. My

BP had to be monitored carefully as I did have hypertension and there

was a risk for preeclampsia, but I helped to control this through diet

(no salt) and exercise. I also had a lot of edema. My feet went from a

size 8 to a 9.5 during the pregnancy and got very uncomfortable in the

last trimester. For my last two babies I also had a pacemaker and during

delivery needed to receive IV antibiotics as a precaution. One of my

son's was born with a genetic birth syndrome....totally unrelated to the

IgA or any pregnancy complications.

All 3 kids are unaffected at this time by IgA, healthy (relatively

speaking) and fairly typical. My oldest will be 16 in a few months, the

youngest recently turned 6. I wouldn't do it differently. I think

however, I would have seriously weighed the risks if I had to be on any

prednisone or cellcept or other invasive drug therapy to treat the IgA.

Or at least made sure I was fully informed of all the information and

potential risks to the fetus.

Even now my kidney function is about 60% and I only take ramipril to

help maintain my BP and further protect my kidneys.

Good luck to you in your decision.

S

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Thanks for posting in ! It is always helpful for others to hear stories

like yours.

Cy

Schorn wrote:

Hi,

I had 3 successful pregnancies and have IgA. I was never once advised

that it would not be safe. But then again I was not taking any

medications at all for the IgA. No need, as it was quite early stage. My

BP had to be monitored carefully as I did have hypertension and there

was a risk for preeclampsia, but I helped to control this through diet

(no salt) and exercise. I also had a lot of edema. My feet went from a

size 8 to a 9.5 during the pregnancy and got very uncomfortable in the

last trimester. For my last two babies I also had a pacemaker and during

delivery needed to receive IV antibiotics as a precaution. One of my

son's was born with a genetic birth syndrome....totally unrelated to the

IgA or any pregnancy complications.

All 3 kids are unaffected at this time by IgA, healthy (relatively

speaking) and fairly typical. My oldest will be 16 in a few months, the

youngest recently turned 6. I wouldn't do it differently. I think

however, I would have seriously weighed the risks if I had to be on any

prednisone or cellcept or other invasive drug therapy to treat the IgA.

Or at least made sure I was fully informed of all the information and

potential risks to the fetus.

Even now my kidney function is about 60% and I only take ramipril to

help maintain my BP and further protect my kidneys.

Good luck to you in your decision.

S

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Thanks for posting in ! It is always helpful for others to hear stories

like yours.

Cy

Schorn wrote:

Hi,

I had 3 successful pregnancies and have IgA. I was never once advised

that it would not be safe. But then again I was not taking any

medications at all for the IgA. No need, as it was quite early stage. My

BP had to be monitored carefully as I did have hypertension and there

was a risk for preeclampsia, but I helped to control this through diet

(no salt) and exercise. I also had a lot of edema. My feet went from a

size 8 to a 9.5 during the pregnancy and got very uncomfortable in the

last trimester. For my last two babies I also had a pacemaker and during

delivery needed to receive IV antibiotics as a precaution. One of my

son's was born with a genetic birth syndrome....totally unrelated to the

IgA or any pregnancy complications.

All 3 kids are unaffected at this time by IgA, healthy (relatively

speaking) and fairly typical. My oldest will be 16 in a few months, the

youngest recently turned 6. I wouldn't do it differently. I think

however, I would have seriously weighed the risks if I had to be on any

prednisone or cellcept or other invasive drug therapy to treat the IgA.

Or at least made sure I was fully informed of all the information and

potential risks to the fetus.

Even now my kidney function is about 60% and I only take ramipril to

help maintain my BP and further protect my kidneys.

Good luck to you in your decision.

S

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Hi Essiepessi,

A very warm welcome to the group. I am sorry you had a need to find your

way here. As to pregnancy, Elisabeth's email really laid it out beautifully.

I can tell you that I had two pregnancies which resulted in two very healthy

baby girls both of which are not grown.

I did have lots of edema and high BP with both pregnancies though so it is

best to be followed by a high risk OB.

Best wishes for starting your family, and welcome again!

In a message dated 3/10/2005 10:11:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

essipessi76@... writes:

Hi there!

I'm a new member in this group.

I'm 28 years old woman and I was diagnosed with IgA two years ago

(after various mis-diagnosis and running in different doctors). I'm

coping well physically as my symptoms are still very lame and my

kidneys are functioning well.

My biggest " problem " is that we were planning pregnancy just before

I got ill and now I finally got the permission to start trying again

(well, that's not the problem :)). The problem is that I'm very

scared about all the things that might go wrong (with me or with the

baby). Does anyone have experience on pregnancy with IgA?

Although the doctors have given me the permission to get pregnant,

I'm a bit doubtful.. What if my symptoms get worse and I can't start

medication because of the baby...? Or what if I'm forced to abort

the pregnancy to be able to start medication (I think I couldn't do

that in no matter what!).

My doctor said that for example Prednisol is safe for the baby but

it says otherwise in the package. I'm so confused.

Well, this was supposed to be an introducing mail but it came out to

be like this... Thanks for reading :)

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Hi Essiepessi,

A very warm welcome to the group. I am sorry you had a need to find your

way here. As to pregnancy, Elisabeth's email really laid it out beautifully.

I can tell you that I had two pregnancies which resulted in two very healthy

baby girls both of which are not grown.

I did have lots of edema and high BP with both pregnancies though so it is

best to be followed by a high risk OB.

Best wishes for starting your family, and welcome again!

In a message dated 3/10/2005 10:11:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

essipessi76@... writes:

Hi there!

I'm a new member in this group.

I'm 28 years old woman and I was diagnosed with IgA two years ago

(after various mis-diagnosis and running in different doctors). I'm

coping well physically as my symptoms are still very lame and my

kidneys are functioning well.

My biggest " problem " is that we were planning pregnancy just before

I got ill and now I finally got the permission to start trying again

(well, that's not the problem :)). The problem is that I'm very

scared about all the things that might go wrong (with me or with the

baby). Does anyone have experience on pregnancy with IgA?

Although the doctors have given me the permission to get pregnant,

I'm a bit doubtful.. What if my symptoms get worse and I can't start

medication because of the baby...? Or what if I'm forced to abort

the pregnancy to be able to start medication (I think I couldn't do

that in no matter what!).

My doctor said that for example Prednisol is safe for the baby but

it says otherwise in the package. I'm so confused.

Well, this was supposed to be an introducing mail but it came out to

be like this... Thanks for reading :)

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Dear Essipessi76,

Hi, and welcome. I'm sorry that you got diagnosed with IgAn, but glad that you

found us.

What are your symptoms right now? What meds are you on, and what is your kidney

function? This is what the decision to get pregnant (or not) should be based

on.

I had two pregnancies with IgAn. I was not diagnosed until after the second

child, although they knew I had kidney disease. But they will not do a biopsy

while you're pregnant.

The main risk during pregnancy, is worsening of the kidney disease. This is

because while pregnant, your blood volume goes up by another 50%. This puts an

extra load on the kidneys and can accelerate the damage. In my case, I stayed

at very good function (normal creatinine), but proteinuria went up quite a bit

and I developped high blood pressure- these did not go away after I had the

baby.

The second risk is to the baby. The risk of preeclampsia goes up four fold for

any woman with kidney disease. However, this risk can be managed by being

monitored frequently by a high risk OB/GYN.

They do frequent visits, frequent BP measurements, keep an eye on your

proteinuria, and after 28 weeks lots of ultrasounds of the baby. With a good

high risk specialist and your neph working together, the risk is very small.

The other good news is that IgAn is usually NOT heriditary- you do not give it

to the baby.

I had preecalmpsia with my first child only because my OB was too stupid to see

that I had signs of kidney disease- proteinuria and swelling, anyway. My

protein was always +1 or +2 on the dipstick and I had persistent microscopic

blood, but he did nothing, not even a 24 hour urinalysis.

With my second pregnancy my BP was always around 140/90, from the start. I was

concerned because it had never run that high before. The OB (same doc) told me

I was paranoid but finally did a 24 hour clearance. My proteinuria was 2 grams

a day. I got referred to the high risk OB/GYN, and fired the other doc.

They were very good. I was worried, of course- because I had just gotten

diagnosed with the IgAn- but they did an excellent job and I delivered at 39

weeks. No complications whatsoever!

It was stressful during the pregnancy, but like I said only because I had just

found out that I was sick.

Making this decision is full of what-ifs. As far as medications go, the

monographs will ALL say that it's risky during pregnancy. That's the drug

companies covering their behinds, is all.

The high risk OB GYN knows better. There are some BP meds that can be used.

Prednisone can also be used. You are under close observation and if there is

any problem at all, they will know it.

ACE inhibitors or ARB's on the other hand, are out of the question. They are

known to cause birth defects.

With your kidney function still being very good, I think you can do it if you

want to. Just find a good OB/GYN and a good neph, who can work together.

Best wishes,

-Elisabeth

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Dear Essipessi76,

Hi, and welcome. I'm sorry that you got diagnosed with IgAn, but glad that you

found us.

What are your symptoms right now? What meds are you on, and what is your kidney

function? This is what the decision to get pregnant (or not) should be based

on.

I had two pregnancies with IgAn. I was not diagnosed until after the second

child, although they knew I had kidney disease. But they will not do a biopsy

while you're pregnant.

The main risk during pregnancy, is worsening of the kidney disease. This is

because while pregnant, your blood volume goes up by another 50%. This puts an

extra load on the kidneys and can accelerate the damage. In my case, I stayed

at very good function (normal creatinine), but proteinuria went up quite a bit

and I developped high blood pressure- these did not go away after I had the

baby.

The second risk is to the baby. The risk of preeclampsia goes up four fold for

any woman with kidney disease. However, this risk can be managed by being

monitored frequently by a high risk OB/GYN.

They do frequent visits, frequent BP measurements, keep an eye on your

proteinuria, and after 28 weeks lots of ultrasounds of the baby. With a good

high risk specialist and your neph working together, the risk is very small.

The other good news is that IgAn is usually NOT heriditary- you do not give it

to the baby.

I had preecalmpsia with my first child only because my OB was too stupid to see

that I had signs of kidney disease- proteinuria and swelling, anyway. My

protein was always +1 or +2 on the dipstick and I had persistent microscopic

blood, but he did nothing, not even a 24 hour urinalysis.

With my second pregnancy my BP was always around 140/90, from the start. I was

concerned because it had never run that high before. The OB (same doc) told me

I was paranoid but finally did a 24 hour clearance. My proteinuria was 2 grams

a day. I got referred to the high risk OB/GYN, and fired the other doc.

They were very good. I was worried, of course- because I had just gotten

diagnosed with the IgAn- but they did an excellent job and I delivered at 39

weeks. No complications whatsoever!

It was stressful during the pregnancy, but like I said only because I had just

found out that I was sick.

Making this decision is full of what-ifs. As far as medications go, the

monographs will ALL say that it's risky during pregnancy. That's the drug

companies covering their behinds, is all.

The high risk OB GYN knows better. There are some BP meds that can be used.

Prednisone can also be used. You are under close observation and if there is

any problem at all, they will know it.

ACE inhibitors or ARB's on the other hand, are out of the question. They are

known to cause birth defects.

With your kidney function still being very good, I think you can do it if you

want to. Just find a good OB/GYN and a good neph, who can work together.

Best wishes,

-Elisabeth

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Dear Essipessi76,

Hi, and welcome. I'm sorry that you got diagnosed with IgAn, but glad that you

found us.

What are your symptoms right now? What meds are you on, and what is your kidney

function? This is what the decision to get pregnant (or not) should be based

on.

I had two pregnancies with IgAn. I was not diagnosed until after the second

child, although they knew I had kidney disease. But they will not do a biopsy

while you're pregnant.

The main risk during pregnancy, is worsening of the kidney disease. This is

because while pregnant, your blood volume goes up by another 50%. This puts an

extra load on the kidneys and can accelerate the damage. In my case, I stayed

at very good function (normal creatinine), but proteinuria went up quite a bit

and I developped high blood pressure- these did not go away after I had the

baby.

The second risk is to the baby. The risk of preeclampsia goes up four fold for

any woman with kidney disease. However, this risk can be managed by being

monitored frequently by a high risk OB/GYN.

They do frequent visits, frequent BP measurements, keep an eye on your

proteinuria, and after 28 weeks lots of ultrasounds of the baby. With a good

high risk specialist and your neph working together, the risk is very small.

The other good news is that IgAn is usually NOT heriditary- you do not give it

to the baby.

I had preecalmpsia with my first child only because my OB was too stupid to see

that I had signs of kidney disease- proteinuria and swelling, anyway. My

protein was always +1 or +2 on the dipstick and I had persistent microscopic

blood, but he did nothing, not even a 24 hour urinalysis.

With my second pregnancy my BP was always around 140/90, from the start. I was

concerned because it had never run that high before. The OB (same doc) told me

I was paranoid but finally did a 24 hour clearance. My proteinuria was 2 grams

a day. I got referred to the high risk OB/GYN, and fired the other doc.

They were very good. I was worried, of course- because I had just gotten

diagnosed with the IgAn- but they did an excellent job and I delivered at 39

weeks. No complications whatsoever!

It was stressful during the pregnancy, but like I said only because I had just

found out that I was sick.

Making this decision is full of what-ifs. As far as medications go, the

monographs will ALL say that it's risky during pregnancy. That's the drug

companies covering their behinds, is all.

The high risk OB GYN knows better. There are some BP meds that can be used.

Prednisone can also be used. You are under close observation and if there is

any problem at all, they will know it.

ACE inhibitors or ARB's on the other hand, are out of the question. They are

known to cause birth defects.

With your kidney function still being very good, I think you can do it if you

want to. Just find a good OB/GYN and a good neph, who can work together.

Best wishes,

-Elisabeth

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If Essi.

Welcome to the group. You have received some replies already, and I'm sure

there will be more. I haven't had a baby, obviously, but, this is a subject

that we get here often. You didn't give much information about your actual

kidney function and your situation with regards to proteinuria. This isn't a

new subject to nephrologists, so, if yours says having a child is Ok, I can

only assume that your kidney situation is relatively stable, and it should

be Ok, as it has been for many women. There is always the list of risks as I

outlined on www.igan.ca, but, you have to balance that against your desire

to have children.

So far, after about 5 years of operation, this group hasn't heard about too

many bad pregnancy stories. I can't recall any. On the other hand, I do know

someone with IgAN who went ahead with pregnancy against the nephrologist's

advice due to more advanced renal failure. This woman had the baby

successfully, but it seems to have accelerated her IgAN and she is now on

dialysis. She would do it again, because she wanted the baby. Now, from what

you said in your introductory message, it doesn't sound like you are in

advanced renal failure.

By the way, there are many things said on medication inserts or packages.

They are often very generic warnings, but they may not always apply to

specific cases. If in doubt, you should probably ask your doctor again. You

may not even need to be on prednisone, I don't know. It depends on your

level of proteinuria.

Pierre

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We use 1-2-3 Magic on our 2 year old and 4 year old. It works really well if

you use it correctly. I would ask what they do at school too. Be consistant

and don't give in. Alot of times it is really important that she gets no

reaction from you when she does insane things. :)

Welcome to the group!!!!

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late (at 3) of a hearing impairment. She has severe loss in her right

ear and moderate loss in her left. She is only on about a 2 year old

level as far as language and speech, although it is improving daily.

Her pediatrician was convinced (or just convinced us) that she could

hear and was just a late talker. It also turned out she was epileptic.

My daughter is in a great program for hearing impaired preschoolers

and I love it. However, it has been hard to cope with and I have had a

hard time discipling her as well as potty training (although she is

potty trained at school completely). She is out of control a lot of

the time, but only for me and her father. Can anyone help me out?

Anything that helped you with your HOH kids? I need any resources I

can get. There hasn't been much help here in Knoxville other than

handing us a pair of hearing aids and setting her up with a hearing

impaired preschool. Thanks!!!

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We use 1-2-3 Magic on our 2 year old and 4 year old. It works really well if

you use it correctly. I would ask what they do at school too. Be consistant

and don't give in. Alot of times it is really important that she gets no

reaction from you when she does insane things. :)

Welcome to the group!!!!

Tawnya

Introducing Myself

Hi, my name is and my 4 year old daughter was diagnosed very

late (at 3) of a hearing impairment. She has severe loss in her right

ear and moderate loss in her left. She is only on about a 2 year old

level as far as language and speech, although it is improving daily.

Her pediatrician was convinced (or just convinced us) that she could

hear and was just a late talker. It also turned out she was epileptic.

My daughter is in a great program for hearing impaired preschoolers

and I love it. However, it has been hard to cope with and I have had a

hard time discipling her as well as potty training (although she is

potty trained at school completely). She is out of control a lot of

the time, but only for me and her father. Can anyone help me out?

Anything that helped you with your HOH kids? I need any resources I

can get. There hasn't been much help here in Knoxville other than

handing us a pair of hearing aids and setting her up with a hearing

impaired preschool. Thanks!!!

All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is

the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright

restrictions.

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