Re: doctors recommend page

[Guest guest]

Everyone. adult kids & self included, tells me " it's just old age " too with all

my symptoms. Even my older sister,

the jock, keeps saying " Oh we've all got that " (herself, husband, friends)

whenever I mention any symptoms.

Or she gives me a remedy for each symptom. For the back pain/spinal

pathology.......more exercise or surgery or just take Alleve or Tylenol. For the

depression...get more outdoor light/sun & exercise. For the lethargy...get out

more & do more stuff...get busy. For the GERD/acid reflux...just spit it out

when it comes up. For the Buddah Belly...get more exercise...do 100 sit ups per

day (like she does). For the thyroid...get a good doctor.

Most others say the same things to me. There's 80yo people in my neighborhood

who can work circles around me out in their yards/gardens that I couldn't even

think about without having more pain & fatigue. So what's old age got to do with

it? Well something yes...but not until we're in our 90s if you ask me.

I'm still 67. My mom & her two sisters (now in their 90s) were way healthier &

more active than me all through their & 80s even. With maybe a little arthritis

& some depression depending on their life's circumstances or deaths of spouses,

etc. is about all.

----- Original Message -----

From: nc2406@...

In a message dated 12/30/2004 3:50:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> I have a friend who blames everything on the fact that I am getting

> older...grrrrr... I am not refusing to get older, I just want to get

better!!!!

if it wasn't that I felt better now at going on 50 than I did at 35...I might

believe that...but hypo makes you feel old...and Armour has been like a

fountain of youth.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Everyone. adult kids & self included, tells me " it's just old age " too with all

my symptoms. Even my older sister,

the jock, keeps saying " Oh we've all got that " (herself, husband, friends)

whenever I mention any symptoms.

Or she gives me a remedy for each symptom. For the back pain/spinal

pathology.......more exercise or surgery or just take Alleve or Tylenol. For the

depression...get more outdoor light/sun & exercise. For the lethargy...get out

more & do more stuff...get busy. For the GERD/acid reflux...just spit it out

when it comes up. For the Buddah Belly...get more exercise...do 100 sit ups per

day (like she does). For the thyroid...get a good doctor.

Most others say the same things to me. There's 80yo people in my neighborhood

who can work circles around me out in their yards/gardens that I couldn't even

think about without having more pain & fatigue. So what's old age got to do with

it? Well something yes...but not until we're in our 90s if you ask me.

I'm still 67. My mom & her two sisters (now in their 90s) were way healthier &

more active than me all through their & 80s even. With maybe a little arthritis

& some depression depending on their life's circumstances or deaths of spouses,

etc. is about all.

----- Original Message -----

From: nc2406@...

In a message dated 12/30/2004 3:50:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> I have a friend who blames everything on the fact that I am getting

> older...grrrrr... I am not refusing to get older, I just want to get

better!!!!

if it wasn't that I felt better now at going on 50 than I did at 35...I might

believe that...but hypo makes you feel old...and Armour has been like a

fountain of youth.

cindi

[Guest guest]

I can tell you right now, that what is really going on there is that she has

a jealousy problem, so here come the put downs. Even though she obtained a

nursing license, it didn't give her the inclination to understand what is

going on or the inclination to learn what is really going on. I have seen

wonderful nurses, but I've also seen nurses who scraped by to get their

license or went mechanically by a certain protocal, but actually have no

real understanding of the human body, per se. Then, they meet up with

someone like you, who doesn't have a license, yet understands what she reads

and has that natural talent to understand, initiates the gathering of info

and puts it all together, and they become bewildered as to why their license

does not grant them this, so here go the insults, without admitting this.

This is NOT the definition of a friend, if she's into these not so subtle

put downs.

Re: doctors recommend page

>

> well - we had a discussion - she needs a bike helmet. I commented how hard

it was for me to find one that fit my head - she said, small head, small

brain. Sometimes she says the rudist things to me - I wonder how we're

friends! so - I said - big head - big ego - then said I had to go. she said,

oh, you're mad at me now>.. duh.

>

> I'm not sure why the attitude of the internet. I'm sure you're right tho -

because had I mentioned I learned it from the books I had, they wouldn't be

as good as medicial books that she and doctor's learned from.

> I've had discussions in the past - my major in college was nutrition -

ticked me when I was young, because nurses got jobs that I applied for, with

no nutritional training.

> Cris

[Guest guest]

I have friends that are in their 60s that feel better than I do, and they

can't even immagine what I'm talking about, when it comes to the way thyroid

disease can make you feel old. Of course, like everyone, their heart will

wear out in old age, or will suddenly stop beating, but they feel good up to

that moment, and we were not meant to feel devastated in our old age (70s to

90s), we were actually meant to go to " sleep " peacefully. This is nothing

to do with " getting older " . Obviously, I don't look or act like I did when

I was in my teens or twenties, but it certainly shouldn't have gone THIS

far, with the wells under the eyes, dizziness, brain fog, skin that is thick

and needs motor oil on it just to keep from cracking, plus the zillions of

other things that happen to us as hypos. (Lame feet and joints, heart

palps, nausea, no energy, etc.......)

Re: doctors recommend page

>

>

> I have a friend who blames everything on the fact that I am getting

older...grrrrr... I am not refusing to get older, I just want to get

better!!!!

>

> Kerry

[Guest guest]

I have friends that are in their 60s that feel better than I do, and they

can't even immagine what I'm talking about, when it comes to the way thyroid

disease can make you feel old. Of course, like everyone, their heart will

wear out in old age, or will suddenly stop beating, but they feel good up to

that moment, and we were not meant to feel devastated in our old age (70s to

90s), we were actually meant to go to " sleep " peacefully. This is nothing

to do with " getting older " . Obviously, I don't look or act like I did when

I was in my teens or twenties, but it certainly shouldn't have gone THIS

far, with the wells under the eyes, dizziness, brain fog, skin that is thick

and needs motor oil on it just to keep from cracking, plus the zillions of

other things that happen to us as hypos. (Lame feet and joints, heart

palps, nausea, no energy, etc.......)

Re: doctors recommend page

>

>

> I have a friend who blames everything on the fact that I am getting

older...grrrrr... I am not refusing to get older, I just want to get

better!!!!

>

> Kerry

[Guest guest]

I have friends that are in their 60s that feel better than I do, and they

can't even immagine what I'm talking about, when it comes to the way thyroid

disease can make you feel old. Of course, like everyone, their heart will

wear out in old age, or will suddenly stop beating, but they feel good up to

that moment, and we were not meant to feel devastated in our old age (70s to

90s), we were actually meant to go to " sleep " peacefully. This is nothing

to do with " getting older " . Obviously, I don't look or act like I did when

I was in my teens or twenties, but it certainly shouldn't have gone THIS

far, with the wells under the eyes, dizziness, brain fog, skin that is thick

and needs motor oil on it just to keep from cracking, plus the zillions of

other things that happen to us as hypos. (Lame feet and joints, heart

palps, nausea, no energy, etc.......)

Re: doctors recommend page

>

>

> I have a friend who blames everything on the fact that I am getting

older...grrrrr... I am not refusing to get older, I just want to get

better!!!!

>

> Kerry

[Guest guest]

you could be right. I get put downs from her all of the time. And since she

moved, she has either really become a snob, or I never let it bother me before.

Actually, about 4 months before she moved, she was getting really bad. I figured

she was subconsciously trying to distance herself from her friends that she was

moving away from. I figured, at that time, I was glad she was moving, and didn't

plan on worrying about ever seeing her again.

She didn't go to nursing school until she was older - and yes, her nursing

degree is better than my BS degree!! and true - even her cars are better than my

cars -

I grew up with a father who was verbally abusive - I really don't need a friend

who is too -

Cris

Re: doctors recommend page

>

> well - we had a discussion - she needs a bike helmet. I commented how hard

it was for me to find one that fit my head - she said, small head, small

brain. Sometimes she says the rudist things to me - I wonder how we're

friends! so - I said - big head - big ego - then said I had to go. she said,

oh, you're mad at me now>.. duh.

>

> I'm not sure why the attitude of the internet. I'm sure you're right tho -

because had I mentioned I learned it from the books I had, they wouldn't be

as good as medicial books that she and doctor's learned from.

> I've had discussions in the past - my major in college was nutrition -

ticked me when I was young, because nurses got jobs that I applied for, with

no nutritional training.

> Cris

[Guest guest]

you could be right. I get put downs from her all of the time. And since she

moved, she has either really become a snob, or I never let it bother me before.

Actually, about 4 months before she moved, she was getting really bad. I figured

she was subconsciously trying to distance herself from her friends that she was

moving away from. I figured, at that time, I was glad she was moving, and didn't

plan on worrying about ever seeing her again.

She didn't go to nursing school until she was older - and yes, her nursing

degree is better than my BS degree!! and true - even her cars are better than my

cars -

I grew up with a father who was verbally abusive - I really don't need a friend

who is too -

Cris

Re: doctors recommend page

>

> well - we had a discussion - she needs a bike helmet. I commented how hard

it was for me to find one that fit my head - she said, small head, small

brain. Sometimes she says the rudist things to me - I wonder how we're

friends! so - I said - big head - big ego - then said I had to go. she said,

oh, you're mad at me now>.. duh.

>

> I'm not sure why the attitude of the internet. I'm sure you're right tho -

because had I mentioned I learned it from the books I had, they wouldn't be

as good as medicial books that she and doctor's learned from.

> I've had discussions in the past - my major in college was nutrition -

ticked me when I was young, because nurses got jobs that I applied for, with

no nutritional training.

> Cris

[Guest guest]

so - this is something we all get, because of how we feel. I know I mentioned

muscle fatigue. she said - work thru the pain. exercise. I said - it isn't the

pain, it's the fatigue. She said - well, I have that too.... sounds like our old

neighbor, who asked us our symptoms so she could go to her dr. with made up

problems for pain meds! and - you know what - they gave them to her!!

Cris

Re: doctors recommend page

Everyone. adult kids & self included, tells me " it's just old age " too with all

my symptoms. Even my older sister,

the jock, keeps saying " Oh we've all got that " (herself, husband, friends)

whenever I mention any symptoms.

Or she gives me a remedy for each symptom. For the back pain/spinal

pathology.......more exercise or surgery or just take Alleve or Tylenol. For the

depression...get more outdoor light/sun & exercise. For the lethargy...get out

more & do more stuff...get busy. For the GERD/acid reflux...just spit it out

when it comes up. For the Buddah Belly...get more exercise...do 100 sit ups per

day (like she does). For the thyroid...get a good doctor.

Most others say the same things to me. There's 80yo people in my neighborhood

who can work circles around me out in their yards/gardens that I couldn't even

think about without having more pain & fatigue. So what's old age got to do with

it? Well something yes...but not until we're in our 90s if you ask me.

I'm still 67. My mom & her two sisters (now in their 90s) were way healthier &

more active than me all through their & 80s even. With maybe a little arthritis

& some depression depending on their life's circumstances or deaths of spouses,

etc. is about all.

----- Original Message -----

From: nc2406@...

In a message dated 12/30/2004 3:50:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klb58@... writes:

> I have a friend who blames everything on the fact that I am getting

> older...grrrrr... I am not refusing to get older, I just want to get

better!!!!

if it wasn't that I felt better now at going on 50 than I did at 35...I might

believe that...but hypo makes you feel old...and Armour has been like a

fountain of youth.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Yes others who don't have the thyroid problems just do NOT understand & we

cannot make them understand. So I just don't even try to anymore.

That's really amazing that lady told her doctor bogus symptoms & he gave her Rx

drugs for them.

I have a friend a few years younger than me who told me to do the same

thing...really fake it a lot & cry & carry on with doctors about all kinds of

exaggerated things ongoing with me. She has done it & it worked for her too.

She has diabetes & used to have a pituitary dysfunction from an accident who

doesn't understand either about the depression & lethargy. She's never been

really depressed or lethargic until recently because she didn't feel much, if

any, pain & therefore wasn't alarmed by symptoms.

Now with the full-blown diabetes she's feeling much pain from neuropathy & the

devastation in her body from the diabetes, mini strokes/heart attacks she's had.

So I think she's got a thyroid problem too from her former pituitary dysfunction

that never got diagnosed or corrrected.

She does a lot of enemas to relieve many symptoms for herself. Enemas are her

main treatment for everything. I used to do those to detox years & years ago but

don't do them anymore...too painful to get into any comfortable enough position

to do them anymore.

She's listening to me now about all that & I sent her a lot of information about

natural thyroid, blood tests, what the knowledgeable doctors say & how they

treat it. So she's going to tell her doctor about it to see if she can get some

help in that department.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cris

so - this is something we all get, because of how we feel. I know I mentioned

muscle fatigue. she said - work thru the pain. exercise. I said - it isn't the

pain, it's the fatigue. She said - well, I have that too.... sounds like our old

neighbor, who asked us our symptoms so she could go to her dr. with made up

problems for pain meds! and - you know what - they gave them to her!!

Cris

[Guest guest]

Yes others who don't have the thyroid problems just do NOT understand & we

cannot make them understand. So I just don't even try to anymore.

That's really amazing that lady told her doctor bogus symptoms & he gave her Rx

drugs for them.

I have a friend a few years younger than me who told me to do the same

thing...really fake it a lot & cry & carry on with doctors about all kinds of

exaggerated things ongoing with me. She has done it & it worked for her too.

She has diabetes & used to have a pituitary dysfunction from an accident who

doesn't understand either about the depression & lethargy. She's never been

really depressed or lethargic until recently because she didn't feel much, if

any, pain & therefore wasn't alarmed by symptoms.

Now with the full-blown diabetes she's feeling much pain from neuropathy & the

devastation in her body from the diabetes, mini strokes/heart attacks she's had.

So I think she's got a thyroid problem too from her former pituitary dysfunction

that never got diagnosed or corrrected.

She does a lot of enemas to relieve many symptoms for herself. Enemas are her

main treatment for everything. I used to do those to detox years & years ago but

don't do them anymore...too painful to get into any comfortable enough position

to do them anymore.

She's listening to me now about all that & I sent her a lot of information about

natural thyroid, blood tests, what the knowledgeable doctors say & how they

treat it. So she's going to tell her doctor about it to see if she can get some

help in that department.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cris

so - this is something we all get, because of how we feel. I know I mentioned

muscle fatigue. she said - work thru the pain. exercise. I said - it isn't the

pain, it's the fatigue. She said - well, I have that too.... sounds like our old

neighbor, who asked us our symptoms so she could go to her dr. with made up

problems for pain meds! and - you know what - they gave them to her!!

Cris

[Guest guest]

Yes others who don't have the thyroid problems just do NOT understand & we

cannot make them understand. So I just don't even try to anymore.

That's really amazing that lady told her doctor bogus symptoms & he gave her Rx

drugs for them.

I have a friend a few years younger than me who told me to do the same

thing...really fake it a lot & cry & carry on with doctors about all kinds of

exaggerated things ongoing with me. She has done it & it worked for her too.

She has diabetes & used to have a pituitary dysfunction from an accident who

doesn't understand either about the depression & lethargy. She's never been

really depressed or lethargic until recently because she didn't feel much, if

any, pain & therefore wasn't alarmed by symptoms.

Now with the full-blown diabetes she's feeling much pain from neuropathy & the

devastation in her body from the diabetes, mini strokes/heart attacks she's had.

So I think she's got a thyroid problem too from her former pituitary dysfunction

that never got diagnosed or corrrected.

She does a lot of enemas to relieve many symptoms for herself. Enemas are her

main treatment for everything. I used to do those to detox years & years ago but

don't do them anymore...too painful to get into any comfortable enough position

to do them anymore.

She's listening to me now about all that & I sent her a lot of information about

natural thyroid, blood tests, what the knowledgeable doctors say & how they

treat it. So she's going to tell her doctor about it to see if she can get some

help in that department.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cris

so - this is something we all get, because of how we feel. I know I mentioned

muscle fatigue. she said - work thru the pain. exercise. I said - it isn't the

pain, it's the fatigue. She said - well, I have that too.... sounds like our old

neighbor, who asked us our symptoms so she could go to her dr. with made up

problems for pain meds! and - you know what - they gave them to her!!

Cris

[Guest guest]

Yep! that lady was a piece of work. Ended up addicted to pain meds. She went to

her gyny with problems, her regular md, to the walk in md... couldn't believe

it! Started to come in to our houses to search for our meds - offered to trade

certain drugs or things for the drugs she wanted. Had several surgeries - you

guessed it - not necessary! to get pain meds. THAT puppy was really sick. I

moved - then she moved -

Cris

Re: doctors recommend page

Yes others who don't have the thyroid problems just do NOT understand & we

cannot make them understand. So I just don't even try to anymore.

That's really amazing that lady told her doctor bogus symptoms & he gave her Rx

drugs for them.

I have a friend a few years younger than me who told me to do the same

thing...really fake it a lot & cry & carry on with doctors about all kinds of

exaggerated things ongoing with me. She has done it & it worked for her too.

She has diabetes & used to have a pituitary dysfunction from an accident who

doesn't understand either about the depression & lethargy. She's never been

really depressed or lethargic until recently because she didn't feel much, if

any, pain & therefore wasn't alarmed by symptoms.

Now with the full-blown diabetes she's feeling much pain from neuropathy & the

devastation in her body from the diabetes, mini strokes/heart attacks she's had.

So I think she's got a thyroid problem too from her former pituitary dysfunction

that never got diagnosed or corrrected.

She does a lot of enemas to relieve many symptoms for herself. Enemas are her

main treatment for everything. I used to do those to detox years & years ago but

don't do them anymore...too painful to get into any comfortable enough position

to do them anymore.

She's listening to me now about all that & I sent her a lot of information about

natural thyroid, blood tests, what the knowledgeable doctors say & how they

treat it. So she's going to tell her doctor about it to see if she can get some

help in that department.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cris

so - this is something we all get, because of how we feel. I know I mentioned

muscle fatigue. she said - work thru the pain. exercise. I said - it isn't the

pain, it's the fatigue. She said - well, I have that too.... sounds like our old

neighbor, who asked us our symptoms so she could go to her dr. with made up

problems for pain meds! and - you know what - they gave them to her!!

Cris

[Guest guest]

Yep! that lady was a piece of work. Ended up addicted to pain meds. She went to

her gyny with problems, her regular md, to the walk in md... couldn't believe

it! Started to come in to our houses to search for our meds - offered to trade

certain drugs or things for the drugs she wanted. Had several surgeries - you

guessed it - not necessary! to get pain meds. THAT puppy was really sick. I

moved - then she moved -

Cris

Re: doctors recommend page

Yes others who don't have the thyroid problems just do NOT understand & we

cannot make them understand. So I just don't even try to anymore.

That's really amazing that lady told her doctor bogus symptoms & he gave her Rx

drugs for them.

I have a friend a few years younger than me who told me to do the same

thing...really fake it a lot & cry & carry on with doctors about all kinds of

exaggerated things ongoing with me. She has done it & it worked for her too.

She has diabetes & used to have a pituitary dysfunction from an accident who

doesn't understand either about the depression & lethargy. She's never been

really depressed or lethargic until recently because she didn't feel much, if

any, pain & therefore wasn't alarmed by symptoms.

Now with the full-blown diabetes she's feeling much pain from neuropathy & the

devastation in her body from the diabetes, mini strokes/heart attacks she's had.

So I think she's got a thyroid problem too from her former pituitary dysfunction

that never got diagnosed or corrrected.

She does a lot of enemas to relieve many symptoms for herself. Enemas are her

main treatment for everything. I used to do those to detox years & years ago but

don't do them anymore...too painful to get into any comfortable enough position

to do them anymore.

She's listening to me now about all that & I sent her a lot of information about

natural thyroid, blood tests, what the knowledgeable doctors say & how they

treat it. So she's going to tell her doctor about it to see if she can get some

help in that department.

----- Original Message -----

From: Cris

so - this is something we all get, because of how we feel. I know I mentioned

muscle fatigue. she said - work thru the pain. exercise. I said - it isn't the

pain, it's the fatigue. She said - well, I have that too.... sounds like our old

neighbor, who asked us our symptoms so she could go to her dr. with made up

problems for pain meds! and - you know what - they gave them to her!!

Cris