Re: Anyone with high functioning older child--does chelation help?

[Guest guest]

My daughter was 7 when I started chelating her. She has never received any

diagnosis. To be honest her progress is very slow, but she has had some

improvements over the last year (although to a large extend only noticeable in

retrospect). She lost her bad breath nearly completely. She seems calmer now.

She is getting better at expressing her real feelings rather than feelings she

thinks she should have. She is now more likely to talk about things which cause

her problems. In the past she tried more to ignore problems or maybe she didn't

believe anything could be resolved.

After a year of chelation it seemed right to send her to school (she had been

home-educated so far). She amazes me how well she seems to be able to

concentrate. She also seems to be getting better about relating to other

children and making friends.

She also doesn't chew her fingernails much anymore or other non-food items (this

might to some extend be due to the WaterOz zinc though and not entirely to

chelation).

We still have a long way to go. What I did before I started chelating her was to

write down all the changes I was hoping for.

Dagmar.

[ ] Anyone with high functioning older child--does

chelation help?

I've read so much about how everyone's children are improving with

chelation. My son is very high functioning (Asperger's) and is

approaching 5 years old. Am I likely to see any gains with him? Most

of the gains it seems like I read about on the board are language

improvements. My son is very verbal, just has no eye contact, no

pretend play, low social skills, not well potty trained.

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[Guest guest]

> I've read so much about how everyone's children are improving with

> chelation. My son is very high functioning (Asperger's) and is

> approaching 5 years old. Am I likely to see any gains with him?

I have a 9-1/2 yo son, I started chelating him about a year ago, he

has completed about 40 rounds of ALA. If I had him dx at the

beginning, he would have probably been dx as ADD, CAPD, and shadow-AS.

Main deficits are social skills and semi-stuttering [has trouble

finding the right words, so will repeat words and phrases].

His social skills are much better, altho still delayed. He now

prefers playing with friends to being alone reading a book. He is

better able to find words, altho it is still a problem for him [we

are constantly telling him to " stop, decide what you want to say,

then say it " ], but now he can do that, whereas before he still had

problems.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I just started chelating myself. I have been chelating my autistic

son for 3 years. I am 39 and just before I got pregnant w/ Jack, my

7yr son, I developed allergies, dust, pollen. I was having really

bad sinus problems for several years, this time of year. I now do

not have any sinus problems. I can also swing on a swing again

without feeling sick. There are many subtle benefits. I am glad I

am chelating. If metals are a problem removing them is a benefit.

nne

> > I've read so much about how everyone's children are improving

with

> > chelation. My son is very high functioning (Asperger's) and is

> > approaching 5 years old. Am I likely to see any gains with him?

>

>

> I have a 9-1/2 yo son, I started chelating him about a year ago,

he

> has completed about 40 rounds of ALA. If I had him dx at the

> beginning, he would have probably been dx as ADD, CAPD, and shadow-

AS.

>

> Main deficits are social skills and semi-stuttering [has trouble

> finding the right words, so will repeat words and phrases].

>

> His social skills are much better, altho still delayed. He now

> prefers playing with friends to being alone reading a book. He is

> better able to find words, altho it is still a problem for him [we

> are constantly telling him to " stop, decide what you want to say,

> then say it " ], but now he can do that, whereas before he still had

> problems.

>

> Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> I have a 9-1/2 yo son

> Main deficits are social skills and semi-stuttering [has trouble

> finding the right words, so will repeat words and phrases].

>

> His social skills are much better, altho still delayed. He now

> prefers playing with friends to being alone reading a book. He is

> better able to find words, altho it is still a problem for him [we

> are constantly telling him to " stop, decide what you want to say,

> then say it " ], but now he can do that, whereas before he still had

> problems.

>

> Dana

That's funny -- the " stop ... then say it " phrase is word for word

what we say to our son, with mixed results. Thanks for sharing about

your son. It's the kind of encouragement I need right now.

[Guest guest]

I too have an older (14 yr old) son with Asperger's. Most of his difficulties

have been eye contact, social skills, following multiple directions,

organization,etc. He has just completed his first round of chelation (DMSA and

ALA) last weekend. The most " visual " result has been in that his once platium

blonde hair which had turned to a slivery black color is returning with blonde

highlights. I thought I was seeing things so I called his Dr and was told that

it wasn't unusual because toxins can accumulate in the hair.

His father, who is working out of town, called that Monday night and spoke with

him. Later I spoke with his father and he told me he was impressed because it

was the first time he felt like he'd actually had a conversation with our son.

That in itself is worth it.

Then the other day when I stopped into school the counselor giving the social

skills class stopped me and said he seemed to be very " playful " in class.

Usually, he has a dfficult time in being there, but he acutally participated

more and communicated with the others in more appropriate ways.

Not sure if it's all due to chelation or not. I did recently (within the month)

also took him off the antidepressants given to him by another Dr. Amazingly 2

weeks later the FDA starting investigating the usage of antidepressants in

children.

Hope this helps a little. I'm looking forward to the next round to see how it

goes. Hopefully, we won't have any of those nasty yeast problems.....

Barbara

ixacta <ixacta@...> wrote:

>

> I have a 9-1/2 yo son

> Main deficits are social skills and semi-stuttering [has trouble

> finding the right words, so will repeat words and phrases].

>

> His social skills are much better, altho still delayed. He now

> prefers playing with friends to being alone reading a book. He is

> better able to find words, altho it is still a problem for him [we

> are constantly telling him to " stop, decide what you want to say,

> then say it " ], but now he can do that, whereas before he still had

> problems.

>

> Dana

That's funny -- the " stop ... then say it " phrase is word for word

what we say to our son, with mixed results. Thanks for sharing about

your son. It's the kind of encouragement I need right now.

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[Guest guest]

,

7 rounds? how many are there. Where did you get your information and products

from?

Bonnie,Lukes mom

hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote:

> I've read so much about how everyone's children are improving with

> chelation. My son is very high functioning (Asperger's) and is

> approaching 5 years old. Am I likely to see any gains with him?

Most

> of the gains it seems like I read about on the board are language

> improvements. My son is very verbal, just has no eye contact, no

> pretend play, low social skills, not well potty trained.

My son is 8yrs old very high functioning Asperger's. We've done 7

rounds and are seeing lots of great improvements in social skills.

We went to a birthday party at a friends house 2 weekends ago.

There were 8 kids and 15 adults there. We stayed about 5 hrs. He

played with the other kids the whole time! He didn't have a single

melt down, he even came to the table unprompted and sang happy

birthday to the birthday girl. No one could believe how well he

did. I've also gotten reports from school that's he's playing with

other boys on the playground and his classmates are asking to be his

partner in the class and want him to sit by them at lunch. These

are huge improvements. Last yr I went to school and had lunch with

him. I came home in tears because not a single child spoke to him.

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[Guest guest]

> > I've read so much about how everyone's children are improving

with

> > chelation. My son is very high functioning (Asperger's) and is

> > approaching 5 years old. Am I likely to see any gains with him?

> Most

> > of the gains it seems like I read about on the board are

language

> > improvements. My son is very verbal, just has no eye contact, no

> > pretend play, low social skills, not well potty trained.

>

> My son is 8yrs old very high functioning Asperger's. We've done 7

> rounds and are seeing lots of great improvements in social

skills.

> We went to a birthday party at a friends house 2 weekends ago.

> There were 8 kids and 15 adults there. We stayed about 5 hrs. He

> played with the other kids the whole time! He didn't have a

single

> melt down, he even came to the table unprompted and sang happy

> birthday to the birthday girl. No one could believe how well he

> did. I've also gotten reports from school that's he's playing

with

> other boys on the playground and his classmates are asking to be

his

> partner in the class and want him to sit by them at lunch. These

> are huge improvements. Last yr I went to school and had lunch

with

> him. I came home in tears because not a single child spoke to

him.

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sam,

If I may call you Sam? How many rounds are there of chelation?How old is your

son?

What is the schedule like? Is it hard?Sorry for so many questions.

Bonnie,Lukes mom.

hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote:

> > I've read so much about how everyone's children are improving

with

> > chelation. My son is very high functioning (Asperger's) and is

> > approaching 5 years old. Am I likely to see any gains with him?

> Most

> > of the gains it seems like I read about on the board are

language

> > improvements. My son is very verbal, just has no eye contact, no

> > pretend play, low social skills, not well potty trained.

>

> My son is 8yrs old very high functioning Asperger's. We've done 7

> rounds and are seeing lots of great improvements in social

skills.

> We went to a birthday party at a friends house 2 weekends ago.

> There were 8 kids and 15 adults there. We stayed about 5 hrs. He

> played with the other kids the whole time! He didn't have a

single

> melt down, he even came to the table unprompted and sang happy

> birthday to the birthday girl. No one could believe how well he

> did. I've also gotten reports from school that's he's playing

with

> other boys on the playground and his classmates are asking to be

his

> partner in the class and want him to sit by them at lunch. These

> are huge improvements. Last yr I went to school and had lunch

with

> him. I came home in tears because not a single child spoke to

him.

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

> Sam,

> If I may call you Sam? How many rounds are there of chelation?How

old is your son?

> What is the schedule like? Is it hard?Sorry for so many questions.

> Bonnie,Lukes mom.

I am not Sam, but here is my info. My kids completed 84 rounds

before I would say they were mostly cleared of metals. I use ALA.

My kids are now ages 4-1/2, 6-1/2, 8 [next month]. I also have a 9-

1/2 who has completed only about 40 rounds. I have been chelating

the younger 3 for over 2 years, the older one about 1 year. My

schedule is not the typical schedule, but it worked for my kids.

You can read my family's story here

http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm

The chelation info is about the middle of the page.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Sam,

> If I may call you Sam?

Sure, Sam is fine.

How many rounds are there of chelation?

I believe that is an individual thing. I think I remember reading

the average is 2 yrs.

How old is your son?

He's 8yrs old. He'll be 9 the end of March.

What is the schedule like? Is it hard?

We usually chelate every other weekend. I start as soon as he gets

home from school. Then he gets a dose every 3 hrs, 4hrs at night.

So for us its like 4pm, 7pm, 11pm, 3am, 7am(on sat.) 10am, 1pm,

ect...With the last dose given at 7am monday morning. I have to set

the alarm for every dose so I don't forget. Its a little hard but

each round gets easier I think. You get used to it.

Sorry for so many questions.

That's ok. I don't mind. But I'm certainly no expert. There are

lots of people on this list who really know their stuff. I did think

of something I wanted to add to my first post about this. My son

was having low body temps. I thought he might be hypothyroid. I

found another list WS-

Forum/ Steve, on that list, taught me how to re-set s body temp

back to normal. I think that improved his social skills too. I

can't be certain what one thing is working or if it is just one

thing because we did both at the same time. Good luck with your

son+++++

, Mom to 8yr & Hannah 5yr

> Bonnie,Lukes mom.