Re: Correct wording when requesting vaccine records from Pediatrician

[Guest guest]

I would be interested in where to look up this info. also. I requested my

son's records as well. Thanks.

[ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine records

from Pediatrician

I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

(specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s).

She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up

to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

these questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

Thanks, KIM

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[Guest guest]

I hope some of the autism-family lawyers offer answers. My vague

impression is that you can request your child's entire file!

Higgins wrote:

>I would be interested in where to look up this info. also. I requested my

>son's records as well. Thanks.

> [ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine records

>from Pediatrician

>

>

> I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

> prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s).

> She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up

> to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

>

> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> these questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I like the direct approach - fork over my kids entire file, A**HOLE! OK

- Just kidding

[ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine

>records from Pediatrician

>

>

> I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

> prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s). She

> said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up to

> the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

>

> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer these

> questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

OK - all kidding aside. I believe it varies from State to State - In

Washington, we can request the complete file at any time and can receive

lab results even prior to our child's pediatrician receiving them. My

hope is that many other states are the same...

[ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine

>records from Pediatrician

>

>

> I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

> prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s). She

> said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up to

> the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

>

> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer these

> questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

It's a release of information form. Just go in, fill it out and when

they say " what records " write in that you want the papers that list

the type of vaccine, date administered, name of manufacturer, and lot

number for each vaccine that [my] child has received to date.

Then it says " where to " -- list your name and your mailing address.

They will send the file to a records handling company if they don't

do it right there themselves, and the records company will mail you

the documents. SHouldn't be any charge for this at all.

W

>> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> these questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

[Guest guest]

--Hi all,

I took a different route when I requested my son's vaccine records.

I simply called the office and told the nurse that my son's school

needed an updated record to complete his immunization form. The

nurse said sure and mailed it to me that day! I think they are very

used to parents asking for vaccine records for school. Now that

summer is upon us, you could use camp as an excuse for requesting

the records. Anyway, when I got the form, it was complete with the

lot numbers and dates that they were given. It was really very

simple.....

Sheryl

- In , Binstock <binstock@p...>

wrote:

> I hope some of the autism-family lawyers offer answers. My vague

> impression is that you can request your child's entire file!

>

>

>

> Higgins wrote:

>

> >I would be interested in where to look up this info. also. I

requested my

> >son's records as well. Thanks.

> > [ ] Correct wording when requesting

vaccine records

> >from Pediatrician

> >

> >

> > I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> > receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> > (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the

antibiotics

> > prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the

lot#s).

> > She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would

be up

> > to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

> >

> > Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each

vaccine

> > to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> > thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so

that

> > when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> > these questions that have been eating away at me for the past

year.

> >

> > Thanks, KIM

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi five, !!!!!!!!!!!!

Jane

" Hooker, S " <brian.hooker@...> wrote:

I like the direct approach - fork over my kids entire file, A**HOLE! OK

- Just kidding

[ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine

>records from Pediatrician

>

>

> I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

> prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s). She

> said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up to

> the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

>

> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer these

> questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

I requested a copy of my son's entire file once and was refused all together.

They said that the file could not leave the office and they would not copy it

for me. They also said that they could only give the information to other

medical professionals. What's the point of me having to sign a concent form for

them to release it to other professionals if I can't even have the file. I think

they were messing with me.

Jane

Binstock <binstock@...> wrote:

I hope some of the autism-family lawyers offer answers. My vague

impression is that you can request your child's entire file!

Higgins wrote:

>I would be interested in where to look up this info. also. I requested my

>son's records as well. Thanks.

> [ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine records

>from Pediatrician

>

>

> I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

> prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s).

> She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up

> to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

>

> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> these questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Thanks and everyone!!! -KIM

[ ] Re: Correct wording when requesting vaccine records

from Pediatrician

It's a release of information form. Just go in, fill it out and when

they say " what records " write in that you want the papers that list

the type of vaccine, date administered, name of manufacturer, and lot

number for each vaccine that [my] child has received to date.

Then it says " where to " -- list your name and your mailing address.

They will send the file to a records handling company if they don't

do it right there themselves, and the records company will mail you

the documents. SHouldn't be any charge for this at all.

W

>> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> these questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

My two cents on this:

I've gone through this recently and just had to sign a release form

and they xeroxed stuff and I picked it up -- BUT looking at it, some

info. was left out like phone calls and complete sick visit notes

(they have a file system that has very small index card depth pieces

of paper that summarize at the bottom the dx or reason for visit and

so when they copy it, it copies the summary for like 8 visits on one

sheet, but you don't get what the parents say was wrong etc.).

The best way to get complete information is through an attorney. We

finally bit the bullet and decided to have Jack's med. records and

case reviewed and it's business when they subpoena records. I didn't

want Jack's peds to know though, so I handled getting them best I

could (I'm working the medical exemption for his 5 year shots -- NC

state law requires a NC licensed physician to provide the medical

exemption, so I've been lobbying our pediatrician who is relatively

new in the practice and coincidentally a high school classmate).

Good luck and consider talking to an attorney.

Sharon

> >> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each

vaccine

> > to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> > thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so

that

> > when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> > these questions that have been eating away at me for the past

year.

> >

> > Thanks, KIM

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Not necessarily. With the new is it heppa ??laws, it is a lot more

complicated then it used to be. I know, as I just went through a

similar experience when I got my son evaluated for ASD's.

My primary pdoc and his partner split. When my pdoc left the

practice, the only records he could take with him where the ones he

generated (wrote/dictated literally). I went with this doc, as the

other doc was the one who gave Liam his Kindi multi vaccine even

though he was just starting antibiotics and had pneumonia. So

basically most of Liam's " generated " records came from the other

doctor (who is a friend of my Dad's, so he was " our " doctor). So I

had to sign and get a release from him, then, any other records I

wanted, like X-Rays, neurologists, psychologists, etc, I had to go

to each separate doctor/provider and get a release signed and a copy

of records from them, not my original doctor. His record is still

not complete. I have none of his lab work, among other things.

None of his vaccine 411, other then he got them, and what they are

called. Just what is written down in the notes by each doctor.

And, some doctors CHARGE you for this information. I paid up to $75

for one doctor's notes. He said he would send them to another

doctor for free, with my signed release. But then MY doctor would

legally be unable to give me a copy. Now, when my kiddo's see a

specialist, I ask for a copy of all generated reports on the spot.

MAJOR pain in the A$$. It is one of the reasons I personally will

not seek to find out his exposure levels from past vaccines. I'm

just moving forward, though I'd love to know!

Sio

who feels your frustration!

>

> >I would be interested in where to look up this info. also. I

requested my

> >son's records as well. Thanks.

> > [ ] Correct wording when requesting

vaccine records

> >from Pediatrician

> >

> >

> > I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> > receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> > (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the

antibiotics

> > prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the

lot#s).

> > She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would

be up

> > to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

> >

> > Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each

vaccine

> > to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> > thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so

that

> > when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> > these questions that have been eating away at me for the past

year.

> >

> > Thanks, KIM

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That's exactly what happened to me. It's even worse when the prior file is in

the hands of the military - they are not very cooperative.

Jane

sioshelton <siobhain@...> wrote:

Not necessarily. With the new is it heppa ??laws, it is a lot more

complicated then it used to be. I know, as I just went through a

similar experience when I got my son evaluated for ASD's.

My primary pdoc and his partner split. When my pdoc left the

practice, the only records he could take with him where the ones he

generated (wrote/dictated literally). I went with this doc, as the

other doc was the one who gave Liam his Kindi multi vaccine even

though he was just starting antibiotics and had pneumonia. So

basically most of Liam's " generated " records came from the other

doctor (who is a friend of my Dad's, so he was " our " doctor). So I

had to sign and get a release from him, then, any other records I

wanted, like X-Rays, neurologists, psychologists, etc, I had to go

to each separate doctor/provider and get a release signed and a copy

of records from them, not my original doctor. His record is still

not complete. I have none of his lab work, among other things.

None of his vaccine 411, other then he got them, and what they are

called. Just what is written down in the notes by each doctor.

And, some doctors CHARGE you for this information. I paid up to $75

for one doctor's notes. He said he would send them to another

doctor for free, with my signed release. But then MY doctor would

legally be unable to give me a copy. Now, when my kiddo's see a

specialist, I ask for a copy of all generated reports on the spot.

MAJOR pain in the A$$. It is one of the reasons I personally will

not seek to find out his exposure levels from past vaccines. I'm

just moving forward, though I'd love to know!

Sio

who feels your frustration!

>

> >I would be interested in where to look up this info. also. I

requested my

> >son's records as well. Thanks.

> > [ ] Correct wording when requesting

vaccine records

> >from Pediatrician

> >

> >

> > I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> > receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> > (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the

antibiotics

> > prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the

lot#s).

> > She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would

be up

> > to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

> >

> > Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each

vaccine

> > to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> > thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so

that

> > when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> > these questions that have been eating away at me for the past

year.

> >

> > Thanks, KIM

> >

> >

> >

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

This is just a suggestion, but when I ordered my child's medical records I

ordered them all. After receiving the medical records I could and my ped's

could see a clear pattern of diarhhea after a certain vaccination. I had

brought my son in after this particular vaccination and complained of a

possible reaction. He even documented my concern it was vaccine related. I had

completely forgot about that visit. After that visit we never had a well child

check because we were back every two months with diarrhea chronically and about

8 ear infections in 1 1/2 years.

It helped me see a pattern I would not have seen if I did not request them all.

It also helped convince my ped's that although he still believes in

vaccinations, that my son had " possible " problems with vaccinations.

So sometimes a complete picture can help you understand more.

Just my two cents worth. I also just told them my son was diagnosed with Autism

and that many different doctor's were requesting copies of medical records and

asking questions like how many ear infections did he have, and I needed a way to

respond to those requests without bugging their office every other day.

I had the records by the end of the day.

Hope this helps,

Becca

[ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine

>records from Pediatrician

>

>

> I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

> prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s). She

> said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up to

> the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

>

> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer these

> questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Hi , and gang:

I guess I'll be the " autism-family lawyer and chime in here. I have

never had a problem obtaining a copy of medical records in 12 years of

practice. All 50 states will allow a parent or legal guardian to obtain a

complete copy of their child's medical file. Of course the physician's

office can charge a fee for the copies and require the parent to sign a

release, but that is no big deal.

If the doctor or some uneducated staffer really does not want to produce

the records, we just subpoena them and, we usually ask that the custidian of

records appear in person before a court reporter for a deposition on written

questions on a Sunday afternoon or Saturday night. The records are

miraculously produced after the subpoena and Notice of Deposition go out--go

figure.

Hope this helps.

My best.

Peacefully,

Jeff Sell

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> Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 14:11:10 -0600

> From: Binstock <binstock@...>

> Subject: Re: Correct wording when requesting vaccine records from

Pediatrician

>

> I hope some of the autism-family lawyers offer answers. My vague

> impression is that you can request your child's entire file!

>

>

>

> Higgins wrote:

>

> >I would be interested in where to look up this info. also. I requested

my

> >son's records as well. Thanks.

> > [ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine

records

> >from Pediatrician

> >

> >

> > I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> > receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> > (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

> > prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s).

> > She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up

> > to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

> >

> > Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> > to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> > thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> > when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer

> > these questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

> >

> > Thanks, KIM

[Guest guest]

Well, I " slept " on this topic last night, and when I woke up, had a

big breakthrough!!! Last month DH and Liam went to a cub scout

camp. Upon arriving at the camp, you had to produce vaccination

records. Of course DH didn't tell me this until the day they were

supposed to leave! So I called the pdocs office, explained my

predicament, and begged them to fax the stuff to DH. DH called me

and said " This is very technical stuff, I hope they take it at the

camp!!!! DH is going to call me when he gets to work (where the fax

is). Crossing my fingers and toes that it is more then just the

names and dates!!!

Sio

who thanks whoever it was who just asked for the shot record.

> >

> > >I would be interested in where to look up this info. also. I

requested

> my

> > >son's records as well. Thanks.

> > > [ ] Correct wording when requesting

vaccine

> records

> > >from Pediatrician

> > >

> > >

> > > I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> > > receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> > > (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the

antibiotics

> > > prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the

lot#s).

> > > She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would

be up

> > > to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

> > >

> > > Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each

vaccine

> > > to be able to look them up to see whether or not they

contained

> > > thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so

that

> > > when I get the records they contain everything I need to

answer

> > > these questions that have been eating away at me for the past

year.

> > >

> > > Thanks, KIM

[Guest guest]

From the various parental anecdotes, I'm beginning to wonder if docs

have begun deliberately to withhold vaccine-lot numbers via withholding

med records as much as possible. Golly, without ordination as MD, a mere

parent just won't be able to comprehend vaccine-lot numbers, especially

if such parents fail to see the beauty in thimerosal-spin doctored by

the CDC and AAP.

sioshelton wrote:

>Well, I " slept " on this topic last night, and when I woke up, had a

>big breakthrough!!! Last month DH and Liam went to a cub scout

>camp. Upon arriving at the camp, you had to produce vaccination

>records. Of course DH didn't tell me this until the day they were

>supposed to leave! So I called the pdocs office, explained my

>predicament, and begged them to fax the stuff to DH. DH called me

>and said " This is very technical stuff, I hope they take it at the

>camp!!!! DH is going to call me when he gets to work (where the fax

>is). Crossing my fingers and toes that it is more then just the

>names and dates!!!

>

>Sio

>who thanks whoever it was who just asked for the shot record.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That was the case with my nieces (3 yo, autism dx). The doctor withheld

the lot numbers to cover up the fact he lied about thimerosal content...

He told their parents that the vax were mercury free, but the truth is,

he never checked... To confound the issue, Aventis Pasteur and one

other (can't remember which) would not release the thimerosal content

when given the lot number... Evidently, from a eugenics standpoint,

we're not good or smart enough to be trusted with such information. Us

poor dumb parents... Perhaps these smarter folks should start wearing

swastica armbands so they are more easily identifiable...

Re: [ ] Re: Correct wording when requesting

vaccine records from Pediatrician

From the various parental anecdotes, I'm beginning to wonder if docs

have begun deliberately to withhold vaccine-lot numbers via withholding

med records as much as possible. Golly, without ordination as MD, a mere

parent just won't be able to comprehend vaccine-lot numbers, especially

if such parents fail to see the beauty in thimerosal-spin doctored by

the CDC and AAP.

sioshelton wrote:

>Well, I " slept " on this topic last night, and when I woke up, had a

>big breakthrough!!! Last month DH and Liam went to a cub scout

>camp. Upon arriving at the camp, you had to produce vaccination

>records. Of course DH didn't tell me this until the day they were

>supposed to leave! So I called the pdocs office, explained my

>predicament, and begged them to fax the stuff to DH. DH called me

>and said " This is very technical stuff, I hope they take it at the

>camp!!!! DH is going to call me when he gets to work (where the fax

>is). Crossing my fingers and toes that it is more then just the

>names and dates!!!

>

>Sio

>who thanks whoever it was who just asked for the shot record.

>

>

>

>

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

> She said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up

> to the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

This is accurate for certain types of information, primarily

information related to mental health issues. That type of information

can be restricted and only released to another qualified medical

professional.

Generally, requesting your complete file to forward to a new doctor,

or requesting vaccination records for school, is a good way to do this.

I like Jeff's ideas for subpenas also LOL

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi :

That is a shame. Keep in mind that it is also a clear violation of

Federal Law to maintain vaccination records, include date, manufacturer and

lot number. The VICA is quite clear on this and, violations should be

reported to the DOJ so they can collect the fine for such a violation.

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Sec. 300aa-25. - Recording and reporting of information

(a) General rule -- Each health care provider who administers a vaccine set

forth in the Vaccine Injury Table to any person shall record, or ensure that

there is recorded, in such person's permanent medical record (or in a

permanent office log or file to which a legal representative shall have

access upon request) with respect to each such vaccine -

(1) the date of administration of the vaccine,

(2) the vaccine manufacturer and lot number of the vaccine,

(3) the name and address and, if appropriate, the title of the health care

provider administering the vaccine, and

(4) any other identifying information on the vaccine required pursuant to

regulations promulgated by the Secretary.

( Reporting

(1) Each health care provider and vaccine manufacturer shall report to the

Secretary -

(A) the occurrence of any event set forth in the Vaccine Injury Table,

including the events set forth in section 300aa-14( of this title which

occur within 7 days of the administration of any vaccine set forth in the

Table or within such longer period as is specified in the Table or section,

( the occurrence of any contraindicating reaction to a vaccine which is

specified in the manufacturer's package insert, and

© such other matters as the Secretary may by regulation require. Reports

of the matters referred to in subparagraphs (A) and ( shall be made

beginning 90 days after December 22, 1987. The Secretary shall publish in

the Federal Register as soon as practicable after such date a notice of the

reporting requirement.

(2) A report under paragraph (1) respecting a vaccine shall include the time

periods after the administration of such vaccine within which

vaccine-related illnesses, disabilities, injuries, or conditions, the

symptoms and manifestations of such illnesses, disabilities, injuries, or

conditions, or deaths occur, and the manufacturer and lot number of the

vaccine.

(3) The Secretary shall issue the regulations referred to in paragraph

(1)© within 180 days of December 22, 1987.

© Release of information

(1) Information which is in the possession of the Federal Government and

State and local governments under this section and which may identify an

individual shall not be made available under section 552 of title 5, or

otherwise, to any person except -

(A) the person who received the vaccine, or

( the legal representative of such person.

(2) For purposes of paragraph (1), the term ''information which may identify

an individual'' shall be limited to the name, street address, and telephone

number of the person who received the vaccine and of that person's legal

representative and the medical records of such person relating to the

administration of the vaccine, and shall not include the locality and State

of vaccine administration, the name of the health care provider who

administered the vaccine, the date of the vaccination, or information

concerning any reported illness, disability, injury, or condition resulting

from the administration of the vaccine, any symptom or manifestation of such

illness, disability, injury, or condition, or death resulting from the

administration of the vaccine.

(3) Except as provided in paragraph (1), all information reported under this

section shall be available to the public

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Message: 11

Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 06:27:39 -0700

From: " Hooker, S " <brian.hooker@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Correct wording when requesting vaccine records from

Pediatrician

That was the case with my nieces (3 yo, autism dx). The doctor withheld

the lot numbers to cover up the fact he lied about thimerosal content...

He told their parents that the vax were mercury free, but the truth is,

he never checked... To confound the issue, Aventis Pasteur and one

other (can't remember which) would not release the thimerosal content

when given the lot number... Evidently, from a eugenics standpoint,

we're not good or smart enough to be trusted with such information. Us

poor dumb parents... Perhaps these smarter folks should start wearing

swastica armbands so they are more easily identifiable...

Re: [ ] Re: Correct wording when requesting

vaccine records from Pediatrician

From the various parental anecdotes, I'm beginning to wonder if docs

have begun deliberately to withhold vaccine-lot numbers via withholding

med records as much as possible. Golly, without ordination as MD, a mere

parent just won't be able to comprehend vaccine-lot numbers, especially

if such parents fail to see the beauty in thimerosal-spin doctored by

the CDC and AAP.

[Guest guest]

I don't understand the problem here? The doctor's offices are required by law

to have lot ##'s and getting your childs' record should not be difficult. What

are the problems?

jane milota <autismjtm@...> wrote:Hi five, !!!!!!!!!!!!

Jane

" Hooker, S " <brian.hooker@...> wrote:

I like the direct approach - fork over my kids entire file, A**HOLE! OK

- Just kidding

[ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine

>records from Pediatrician

>

>

> I called my child's pediatrician's office today and told the

> receptionist I wanted to get a copy of my child's records

> (specifically how many ear infections he has had and the antibiotics

> prescribed and all of his shots, the manufacturer and the lot#s). She

> said I had to come in a complete a form and then it would be up to

> the doctor what records would be given to me?????????

>

> Can someone tell me everything I'd need to know about each vaccine

> to be able to look them up to see whether or not they contained

> thimerosal? I want to word everything clearly on the form so that

> when I get the records they contain everything I need to answer these

> questions that have been eating away at me for the past year.

>

> Thanks, KIM

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Regardless of applicable laws, possession functionally remains 9/10s of

the law.

If you call the cops and the doc's office calls the cops, guess who gets

removed from the property and possibly arrested.

And if you persist, social services may join the case against you.

I hope there are legal remedies that aren't too expensive.

One possibility, a small damage suit against physicians who lose an

autistic child's records. Such suits seem the only way to instill

" cooperation " from those on such high pedestals.

stephanie anderson wrote:

>I don't understand the problem here? The doctor's offices are required by law

to have lot ##'s and getting your childs' record should not be difficult. What

are the problems?

>

>jane milota <autismjtm@...> wrote:Hi five, !!!!!!!!!!!!

>

>Jane

>

> " Hooker, S " <brian.hooker@...> wrote:

>I like the direct approach - fork over my kids entire file, A**HOLE! OK

>- Just kidding

>

>

> Re: [ ] Correct wording when requesting vaccine

>records from Pediatrician

>

>

>I hope some of the autism-family lawyers offer answers. My vague

>impression is that you can request your child's entire file!

>

>

>

>

>

>

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