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Since we are on the subject of eating, I was meaning to ask if anyone else has problems breathing when they eat? I have just noticed this happening to me over the last couple of months and it is really frustrating. Even if I eat small bites and eat slow, I still get short of breath. I am going back to Birmingham to UAB the first week of March and am definitely going to ask for some helpful hints. Was just curious if this is one of the things that is "supposed" to happen with UIP. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08Mississippi

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:15:12 PMSubject: weight support

margaretso glad you had a great day; send the receipe for soup.. mine wasn't such a good day, felt bloated all day and of course like you said short of breath when over eat. but it was an emotional eating frenzy.. plan to try and eat healthy starting again.. Like MB says it isn't about losing weight it is about learning to eat right and still enjoy your food. To learn not live to eat. which i think at times is my theory.. Keep up the good work. patti nj, ipf 7'06, raynauds, scleroderma, PH 2'07> >> > Jack,> > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an anti-inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti- Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people.. I'm not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just sharing what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable with this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who is completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and more

importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and encouragement of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> >  > > Beth in North Carolina> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> >  > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very interested in one. Can you share info> > on what it consists of?> >  Jack> > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > Sue,> > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do in order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also realize that could change at any time. > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis which means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps to prevent worsening of

my lung condition. Can't count on that obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has told me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular) varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on what caused it. > > > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything else I've ever done. I've begun working with a nutritionist from the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > > >

Beth in North Carolina> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> >  > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have always had a weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000 lbs. I am looking into

a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins. Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in the process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life expectancy.  My last PFT done> > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and other tests were not bad at all.      Doc said there may be a variation in equipment from here

to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell more.> > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am really in a quandary.> > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not that I eat much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/ recommendations would be welcome.> > Sue D.> > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> >  > >>

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Since we are on the subject of eating, I was meaning to ask if anyone else has problems breathing when they eat? I have just noticed this happening to me over the last couple of months and it is really frustrating. Even if I eat small bites and eat slow, I still get short of breath. I am going back to Birmingham to UAB the first week of March and am definitely going to ask for some helpful hints. Was just curious if this is one of the things that is "supposed" to happen with UIP. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08Mississippi

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:15:12 PMSubject: weight support

margaretso glad you had a great day; send the receipe for soup.. mine wasn't such a good day, felt bloated all day and of course like you said short of breath when over eat. but it was an emotional eating frenzy.. plan to try and eat healthy starting again.. Like MB says it isn't about losing weight it is about learning to eat right and still enjoy your food. To learn not live to eat. which i think at times is my theory.. Keep up the good work. patti nj, ipf 7'06, raynauds, scleroderma, PH 2'07> >> > Jack,> > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an anti-inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti- Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people.. I'm not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just sharing what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable with this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who is completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and more

importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and encouragement of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> >  > > Beth in North Carolina> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> >  > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very interested in one. Can you share info> > on what it consists of?> >  Jack> > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > Sue,> > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do in order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also realize that could change at any time. > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis which means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps to prevent worsening of

my lung condition. Can't count on that obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has told me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular) varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on what caused it. > > > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything else I've ever done. I've begun working with a nutritionist from the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > > >

Beth in North Carolina> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> >  > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have always had a weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000 lbs. I am looking into

a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins. Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in the process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life expectancy.  My last PFT done> > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and other tests were not bad at all.      Doc said there may be a variation in equipment from here

to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell more.> > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am really in a quandary.> > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not that I eat much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/ recommendations would be welcome.> > Sue D.> > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> >  > >>

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Since we are on the subject of eating, I was meaning to ask if anyone else has problems breathing when they eat? I have just noticed this happening to me over the last couple of months and it is really frustrating. Even if I eat small bites and eat slow, I still get short of breath. I am going back to Birmingham to UAB the first week of March and am definitely going to ask for some helpful hints. Was just curious if this is one of the things that is "supposed" to happen with UIP. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08Mississippi

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:15:12 PMSubject: weight support

margaretso glad you had a great day; send the receipe for soup.. mine wasn't such a good day, felt bloated all day and of course like you said short of breath when over eat. but it was an emotional eating frenzy.. plan to try and eat healthy starting again.. Like MB says it isn't about losing weight it is about learning to eat right and still enjoy your food. To learn not live to eat. which i think at times is my theory.. Keep up the good work. patti nj, ipf 7'06, raynauds, scleroderma, PH 2'07> >> > Jack,> > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an anti-inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti- Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people.. I'm not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just sharing what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable with this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who is completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and more

importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and encouragement of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> >  > > Beth in North Carolina> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> >  > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very interested in one. Can you share info> > on what it consists of?> >  Jack> > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > Sue,> > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do in order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also realize that could change at any time. > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis which means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps to prevent worsening of

my lung condition. Can't count on that obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has told me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular) varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on what caused it. > > > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything else I've ever done. I've begun working with a nutritionist from the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > > >

Beth in North Carolina> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> >  > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have always had a weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000 lbs. I am looking into

a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins. Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in the process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life expectancy.  My last PFT done> > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and other tests were not bad at all.      Doc said there may be a variation in equipment from here

to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell more.> > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am really in a quandary.> > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not that I eat much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/ recommendations would be welcome.> > Sue D.> > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> >  > >>

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Caro

I have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems with

both the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of how

prevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don't

have a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeter

out and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking to

lower your sats.

> > >

> > > Jack,

> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an

anti-

> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> > >

> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

I'm

> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just

sharing

> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable

with

> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who

is

> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and

encouragement

> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > ÂÂ

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very

> interested in one. Can you share info

> > > on what it consists of?

> > >  Jack

> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Sue,

> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do

in

> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also

realize

> that could change at any time.

> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

which

> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps

> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count

on that

> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has

told

> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on

what

> caused it.

> > >

> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything

> else I've ever done. I've begun working with a

nutritionist from

> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my

> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for

> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up

> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> > >

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > ÂÂ

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have

always had a

> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and

> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained

> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000

lbs. I am

> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.

> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a

> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in

the

> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has

> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My

> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if

> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he

> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life

> expectancy.  My last PFT done

> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

> †" only 19% of predicted†" but the lung volume and other

tests were

> not bad at all.      Doc

said there may be a variation in

> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell

> more.

> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am

> really in a quandary.

> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a

> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for

> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not

that I eat

> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just

> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/

> recommendations would be welcome.

> > > Sue D.

> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> >

>

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Caro

I have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems with

both the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of how

prevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don't

have a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeter

out and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking to

lower your sats.

> > >

> > > Jack,

> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an

anti-

> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> > >

> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

I'm

> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just

sharing

> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable

with

> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who

is

> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and

encouragement

> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > ÂÂ

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very

> interested in one. Can you share info

> > > on what it consists of?

> > >  Jack

> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Sue,

> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do

in

> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also

realize

> that could change at any time.

> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

which

> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps

> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count

on that

> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has

told

> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on

what

> caused it.

> > >

> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything

> else I've ever done. I've begun working with a

nutritionist from

> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my

> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for

> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up

> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> > >

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > ÂÂ

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have

always had a

> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and

> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained

> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000

lbs. I am

> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.

> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a

> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in

the

> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has

> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My

> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if

> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he

> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life

> expectancy.  My last PFT done

> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

> †" only 19% of predicted†" but the lung volume and other

tests were

> not bad at all.      Doc

said there may be a variation in

> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell

> more.

> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am

> really in a quandary.

> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a

> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for

> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not

that I eat

> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just

> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/

> recommendations would be welcome.

> > > Sue D.

> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> >

>

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Caro

I have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems with

both the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of how

prevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don't

have a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeter

out and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking to

lower your sats.

> > >

> > > Jack,

> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an

anti-

> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> > >

> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

I'm

> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just

sharing

> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable

with

> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who

is

> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and

encouragement

> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > ÂÂ

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very

> interested in one. Can you share info

> > > on what it consists of?

> > >  Jack

> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Sue,

> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do

in

> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also

realize

> that could change at any time.

> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

which

> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps

> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count

on that

> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has

told

> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on

what

> caused it.

> > >

> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything

> else I've ever done. I've begun working with a

nutritionist from

> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my

> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for

> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up

> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> > >

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > ÂÂ

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have

always had a

> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and

> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained

> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000

lbs. I am

> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.

> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a

> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in

the

> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has

> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My

> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if

> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he

> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life

> expectancy.  My last PFT done

> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

> †" only 19% of predicted†" but the lung volume and other

tests were

> not bad at all.      Doc

said there may be a variation in

> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell

> more.

> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am

> really in a quandary.

> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a

> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for

> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not

that I eat

> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just

> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/

> recommendations would be welcome.

> > > Sue D.

> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> >

>

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LOL so is walking and talking.. LOL  you know I have to try both..  Love & Prayers, PeggyFlorida,  IPF/UIP 2004"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly."  CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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Hi Everyone!

I had therapy for eating when I had my trach. Ever since, I have been transformed into a slow eater of food. I always when last when eating with my family. My opinion is that if you get SOB when eating, turn up the O2.

Toodles!

Jane UIP/IPF 12/1998 Dalton, Georgia aka pianolady_musicgirl> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an anti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti- > Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > > > > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people.. I'm > not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just sharing > what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable with > this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who is > completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and > more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and encouragement > of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > >  > > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > >  > > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > > > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very > interested in one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > > > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been > talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do in > order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still > considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be > considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also realize > that could change at any time. > > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis which > means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps > to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on that > obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has told > me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular) > varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to > literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on what > caused it. > > > > > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything > else I've ever done. I've begun working with a nutritionist from > the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight > (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my > body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for > me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up > till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > > > > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > >  > > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > > > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have always had a > weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and > prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained > about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a > transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000 lbs. I am > looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins. > Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a > recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in the > process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has > hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My > local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on > prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if > I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he > told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life > expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint > â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and other tests were > not bad at all.      Doc said there may be a variation in > equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell > more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is > going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am > really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a > diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for > me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not that I eat > much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just > make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/ > recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > >  > > >> >>

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Subject: Re: weight supportTo: Breathe-Support Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:16 AM

CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my

medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in

one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I

alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing

weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> >

>> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only

going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel

deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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Subject: Re: weight supportTo: Breathe-Support Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:16 AM

CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my

medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in

one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I

alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing

weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> >

>> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only

going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel

deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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i don't know about the eating, but definitely the talking -- makes me breathless

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CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my

medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in

one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I

alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing

weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> >

>> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only

going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel

deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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Caro, Eating uses a lot of O2. Yes, I get

SOB while eating and have to use the O2

while eating. After eating the SOB continues unless I've been on the

O2 the entire time.

There have been occasions when even with the O2 I am uncomfortable

after eating and cannot

get up right away to clean away the dishes etc. Often, things like

that have to wait a while.

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z 65,

fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mild”

PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not

self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to

Darah

and Sara

“I’m gonna

be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Vinca

Minor-periwinkle is my flower

Carolyn Wade wrote:

Since we are on the subject of eating, I was meaning to ask if

anyone else has problems breathing when they eat? I have just noticed

this happening to me over the last couple of months and it is really

frustrating. Even if I eat small bites and eat slow, I still get short

of breath. I am going back to Birmingham to UAB the first week of

March and am definitely going to ask for some helpful hints. Was just

curious if this is one of the things that is "supposed" to happen with

UIP.

Caro

ASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08,

RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08

Mississippi

From:

friend.patti <friend.patti (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Wednesday,

February 18, 2009 8:15:12 PM

Subject:

weight support

margaret

so glad you had a great day; send the receipe for soup.. mine wasn't

such a good day, felt bloated all day and of course like you said

short of breath when over eat. but it was an emotional eating

frenzy.. plan to try and eat healthy starting again.. Like MB says

it isn't about losing weight it is about learning to eat right and

still enjoy your food. To learn not live to eat. which i think at

times is my theory.. Keep up the good work. patti nj, ipf 7'06,

raynauds, scleroderma, PH 2'07

> >

> > Jack,

> > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an anti-

inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/

ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> >

> > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

I'm

not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just sharing

what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable with

this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who is

completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and encouragement

of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > Â

> > Beth in North Carolina

> > Moderator

> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06Â Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > Â

> > "May you never take one single breath for granted"

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> >

> >

> > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am

very

interested in one. Can you share info

> > on what it consists of?

> > Â Jack

> > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> >

> >

> > Sue,

> > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do in

order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also realize

that could change at any time.

> > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

which

means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps

to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on that

obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has told

me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on what

caused it.

> >

> > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything

else I've ever done. I've begun working with a nutritionist from

the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

(though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my

body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for

me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up

till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> >

> > Beth in North Carolina

> > Moderator

> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06Â Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > Â

> > "May you never take one single breath for granted"

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> >

> >

> > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have always had a

weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and

prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained

about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000 lbs. I am

looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.

Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a

recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in the

process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has

hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My

local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if

I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he

told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life

expectancy.  My last PFT done

> > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and other tests were

not bad at all.      Doc said there may be a variation in

equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell

more.

> > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am

really in a quandary.

> > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of

a

diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for

me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not that I eat

much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just

make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/

recommendations would be welcome.

> > Sue D.

> > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA

> > Â

> >

>

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Caro, Eating uses a lot of O2. Yes, I get

SOB while eating and have to use the O2

while eating. After eating the SOB continues unless I've been on the

O2 the entire time.

There have been occasions when even with the O2 I am uncomfortable

after eating and cannot

get up right away to clean away the dishes etc. Often, things like

that have to wait a while.

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z 65,

fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mild”

PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not

self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to

Darah

and Sara

“I’m gonna

be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Vinca

Minor-periwinkle is my flower

Carolyn Wade wrote:

Since we are on the subject of eating, I was meaning to ask if

anyone else has problems breathing when they eat? I have just noticed

this happening to me over the last couple of months and it is really

frustrating. Even if I eat small bites and eat slow, I still get short

of breath. I am going back to Birmingham to UAB the first week of

March and am definitely going to ask for some helpful hints. Was just

curious if this is one of the things that is "supposed" to happen with

UIP.

Caro

ASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08,

RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08

Mississippi

From:

friend.patti <friend.patti (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Wednesday,

February 18, 2009 8:15:12 PM

Subject:

weight support

margaret

so glad you had a great day; send the receipe for soup.. mine wasn't

such a good day, felt bloated all day and of course like you said

short of breath when over eat. but it was an emotional eating

frenzy.. plan to try and eat healthy starting again.. Like MB says

it isn't about losing weight it is about learning to eat right and

still enjoy your food. To learn not live to eat. which i think at

times is my theory.. Keep up the good work. patti nj, ipf 7'06,

raynauds, scleroderma, PH 2'07

> >

> > Jack,

> > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an anti-

inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/

ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> >

> > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

I'm

not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just sharing

what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable with

this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who is

completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and encouragement

of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > Â

> > Beth in North Carolina

> > Moderator

> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06Â Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > Â

> > "May you never take one single breath for granted"

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> >

> >

> > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am

very

interested in one. Can you share info

> > on what it consists of?

> > Â Jack

> > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> >

> >

> > Sue,

> > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do in

order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also realize

that could change at any time.

> > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

which

means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps

to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on that

obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has told

me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on what

caused it.

> >

> > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything

else I've ever done. I've begun working with a nutritionist from

the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

(though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my

body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for

me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up

till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> >

> > Beth in North Carolina

> > Moderator

> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06Â Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > Â

> > "May you never take one single breath for granted"

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> >

> >

> > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have always had a

weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and

prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained

about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000 lbs. I am

looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.

Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a

recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in the

process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has

hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My

local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if

I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he

told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life

expectancy.  My last PFT done

> > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and other tests were

not bad at all.      Doc said there may be a variation in

equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell

more.

> > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am

really in a quandary.

> > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of

a

diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for

me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not that I eat

much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just

make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/

recommendations would be welcome.

> > Sue D.

> > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA

> > Â

> >

>

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I didn't think about the talking part, but now that you mention it, I do get short of breath sometimes if I try and get in a hurry and talk too fast. I guess I'm really getting afraid that I getting closer and closer to needing O2 and that really scares me. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08Mississippi

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:16:54 AMSubject: Re: weight support

CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very

comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose

Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still>

considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the

Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17,

2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost

impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when

dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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I didn't think about the talking part, but now that you mention it, I do get short of breath sometimes if I try and get in a hurry and talk too fast. I guess I'm really getting afraid that I getting closer and closer to needing O2 and that really scares me. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08Mississippi

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:16:54 AMSubject: Re: weight support

CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very

comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose

Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still>

considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the

Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17,

2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost

impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when

dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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I didn't think about the talking part, but now that you mention it, I do get short of breath sometimes if I try and get in a hurry and talk too fast. I guess I'm really getting afraid that I getting closer and closer to needing O2 and that really scares me. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08Mississippi

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:16:54 AMSubject: Re: weight support

CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very

comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose

Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still>

considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the

Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17,

2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost

impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when

dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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Thanks . I am just finding more and more that I get SOB doing things that even 6 months ago I could do and it didn't bother me, like vacuuming the floor, or climbing a flight of stairs with a bag of groceries. Some days I struggle to have enough breath to eat and just give me and throw it in the trash. My pulmo wanted to put me on O2 with exertion last visit (last month) but he agreed to trial me on Ventolin inhaler with exertion first and go back in April and let him know how it goes. Guess I haven't really been using the inhaler like I should. I had better crack down on it this next month or he will definitely say O2 and I really don't think I'm quite ready for that yet. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08Mississippi

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:13:16 PMSubject: Re: weight support

Caro, Eating uses a lot of O2. Yes, I get SOB while eating and have to use the O2while eating. After eating the SOB continues unless I've been on the O2 the entire time.There have been occasions when even with the O2 I am uncomfortable after eating and cannotget up right away to clean away the dishes etc. Often, things like that have to wait a while.

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Carolyn Wade wrote:

Since we are on the subject of eating, I was meaning to ask if anyone else has problems breathing when they eat? I have just noticed this happening to me over the last couple of months and it is really frustrating. Even if I eat small bites and eat slow, I still get short of breath. I am going back to Birmingham to UAB the first week of March and am definitely going to ask for some helpful hints. Was just curious if this is one of the things that is "supposed" to happen with UIP. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08Mississippi

From: friend.patti <friend.patti@ yahoo.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:15:12 PMSubject: weight support

margaretso glad you had a great day; send the receipe for soup.. mine wasn't such a good day, felt bloated all day and of course like you said short of breath when over eat. but it was an emotional eating frenzy.. plan to try and eat healthy starting again.. Like MB says it isn't about losing weight it is about learning to eat right and still enjoy your food. To learn not live to eat. which i think at times is my theory.. Keep up the good work. patti nj, ipf 7'06, raynauds, scleroderma, PH 2'07> >> > Jack,> > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an anti-inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti- Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people.. I'm not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just sharing what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable with this partly because I'm working with a

nutritionist at Duke who is completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and encouragement of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> >  > > Beth in North Carolina> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> >  > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very interested in one. Can you share info>

> on what it consists of?> >  Jack> > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > Sue,> > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do in order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also realize that could change at any time. > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis which means that

theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on that obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has told me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular) varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on what caused it. > > > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything else I've ever done. I've begun working with a nutritionist from the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up

till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > > > Beth in North Carolina> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> >  > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM> > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > > > > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I have always had a weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a transplant at

Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000 lbs. I am looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins. Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am in the process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life expectancy.  My last PFT done> > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and other tests were not bad at all.Â

     Doc said there may be a variation in equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell more.> > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am really in a quandary.> > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's not that I eat much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/ recommendations would be welcome.> > Sue D.> > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> >  >

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Caro,

I get very short of breath while eating. I've also had a wierd

syptoms that my husband HATES. Some times my lungs will spontaneoulsy

suck in air very loud and hard. It's happened several times when I've

had food in my mouth. The food went right down my wind pipe. IT can

be very scary.

I try to be mindfull of taking smaller bites and trying to slow down

some. If i start getting SOB I stop eating until i'm not feeling so

winded.

33 FL

IPF dx 1/06

> > >

> > > Jack,

> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an anti-

> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> > >

> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

I'm

> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just

sharing

> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable

with

> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who

is

> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and

encouragement

> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > >  

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > >  

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am

very

> interested in one.  Can you share info

> > > on what it consists of?

> > >  Jack

> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Sue,

> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do

in

> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also realize

> that could change at any time.

> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

which

> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps

> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on

that

> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has

told

> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on what

> caused it.

> > >

> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything

> else I've ever done.  I've begun working with a nutritionist

from

> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help

my

> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for

> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done

up

> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> > >

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > >  

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi friends:  I'd like to jump in here.  I have always had

a

> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and

> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months.  I gained

> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

> transplant at Duke.  That 100 lbs might as well be 1000 lbs. 

I am

> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an

ins.

> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a

> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test.  I am in

the

> process of getting this info together.  My pulmodoc at Duke has

> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me.  My

> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if

> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he

> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of

life

> expectancy.   My last PFT done

> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

> †" only 19% of predicted†" but the lung volume and other

tests were

> not bad at all.        Doc said there may be a

variation in

> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell

> more.

> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone.  I am

> really in a quandary.

> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a

> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for

> me to handle.  I don't want to feel deprived.  It's not that

I eat

> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I

just

> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > > There, I got it off my chest..  Any suggestions/

> recommendations would be welcome.

> > > Sue D.

> > > 62 yr old,  Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07,  VA

> > >  

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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> > >

> > > Jack,

> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an

anti-

> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> > >

> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

I'm

> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just

sharing

> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable

with

> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who

is

> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and

encouragement

> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > >  

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > >  

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am

very

> interested in one.  Can you share info

> > > on what it consists of?

> > >  Jack

> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Sue,

> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do

in

> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also

realize

> that could change at any time.

> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

which

> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition

helps

> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on

that

> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has

told

> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on

what

> caused it.

> > >

> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything

> else I've ever done.  I've begun working with a nutritionist

from

> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help

my

> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work

for

> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done

up

> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> > >

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > >  

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi friends:  I'd like to jump in here.  I have always

had a

> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and

> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months.  I gained

> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

> transplant at Duke.  That 100 lbs might as well be 1000

lbs.  I am

> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an

ins.

> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a

> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test.  I am in

the

> process of getting this info together.  My pulmodoc at Duke has

> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me.  My

> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if

> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing

he

> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of

life

> expectancy.   My last PFT done

> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

> †" only 19% of predicted†" but the lung volume and other

tests were

> not bad at all.        Doc said there may be a

variation in

> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell

> more.

> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone.  I am

> really in a quandary.

> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a

> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much

for

> me to handle.  I don't want to feel deprived.  It's not that

I eat

> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I

just

> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > > There, I got it off my chest..  Any suggestions/

> recommendations would be welcome.

> > > Sue D.

> > > 62 yr old,  Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07,  VA

> > >  

> > >

> >

>

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> > >

> > > Jack,

> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an

anti-

> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> > >

> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

I'm

> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just

sharing

> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable

with

> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke who

is

> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and

encouragement

> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > >  

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > >  

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am

very

> interested in one.  Can you share info

> > > on what it consists of?

> > >  Jack

> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Sue,

> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you do

in

> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

> considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also

realize

> that could change at any time.

> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

which

> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition

helps

> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on

that

> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he has

told

> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on

what

> caused it.

> > >

> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything

> else I've ever done.  I've begun working with a nutritionist

from

> the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help

my

> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work

for

> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done

up

> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> > >

> > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > Moderator

> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > >  

> > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi friends:  I'd like to jump in here.  I have always

had a

> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and

> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months.  I gained

> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

> transplant at Duke.  That 100 lbs might as well be 1000

lbs.  I am

> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an

ins.

> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a

> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test.  I am in

the

> process of getting this info together.  My pulmodoc at Duke has

> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me.  My

> local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if

> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing

he

> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of

life

> expectancy.   My last PFT done

> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

> †" only 19% of predicted†" but the lung volume and other

tests were

> not bad at all.        Doc said there may be a

variation in

> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell

> more.

> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone.  I am

> really in a quandary.

> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a

> diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much

for

> me to handle.  I don't want to feel deprived.  It's not that

I eat

> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I

just

> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > > There, I got it off my chest..  Any suggestions/

> recommendations would be welcome.

> > > Sue D.

> > > 62 yr old,  Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07,  VA

> > >  

> > >

> >

>

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I have found that when i talk (especialy in front of a group) i need to speak slowly and to carefully pick my words and not to get excited. the same with walking, slow and easy goes along way.

ken

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:40:23 PMSubject: Re: Re: weight support

i don't know about the eating, but definitely the talking -- makes me breathless

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09

www.transplantfund. org

From: Bruce Moreland <brucemoreland@ gmail.com>Subject: Re: weight supportTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:16 AM

CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very

comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose

Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still>

considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the

Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17,

2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost

impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when

dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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I have found that when i talk (especialy in front of a group) i need to speak slowly and to carefully pick my words and not to get excited. the same with walking, slow and easy goes along way.

ken

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:40:23 PMSubject: Re: Re: weight support

i don't know about the eating, but definitely the talking -- makes me breathless

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09

www.transplantfund. org

From: Bruce Moreland <brucemoreland@ gmail.com>Subject: Re: weight supportTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:16 AM

CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very

comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose

Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still>

considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the

Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17,

2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost

impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when

dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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I have found that when i talk (especialy in front of a group) i need to speak slowly and to carefully pick my words and not to get excited. the same with walking, slow and easy goes along way.

ken

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:40:23 PMSubject: Re: Re: weight support

i don't know about the eating, but definitely the talking -- makes me breathless

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From: Bruce Moreland <brucemoreland@ gmail.com>Subject: Re: weight supportTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:16 AM

CaroI have eaten with many PF'ers and almost all have some problems withboth the eating and the talking at the table. I am so aware of howprevalent it is because they have always seemed so amazed that I don'thave a significant problem doing so. I've even had to pull my oximeterout and show a couple. So, it is quite the norm for eating and taking tolower your sats.> > >> > > Jack,> > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on ananti-> inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:> > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-> Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html> > >> > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..I'm> not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, justsharing> what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very

comfortablewith> this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke whois> completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and> more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing andencouragement> of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.> > > ÂÂ> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose

Weight> > >> > >> > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am very> interested in one. Can you share info> > > on what it consists of?> > >  Jack> > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM> > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Sue,> > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been> talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you doin> order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still>

considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be> considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I alsorealize> that could change at any time.> > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositiswhich> means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition helps> to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't counton that> obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on, he hastold> me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)> varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to> literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend onwhat> caused it.> > >> > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from anything> else I've ever done. I've begun working with anutritionist from> the

Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-> inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight> (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can help my> body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work for> me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've done up> till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.> > >> > > Beth in North Carolina> > > Moderator> > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08> > > ÂÂ> > > "May you never take one single breath for granted"> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17,

2009 10:17:40 AM> > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight> > >> > >> > > Hi friends: I'd like to jump in here. I havealways had a> weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day) and> prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months. I gained> about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a> transplant at Duke. That 100 lbs might as well be 1000lbs. I am> looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an ins.> Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and a> recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test. I am inthe> process of getting this info together. My pulmodoc at Duke has> hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. My> local pulmodoc told me it's almost

impossible to lose weight on> prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure if> I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing he> told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of life> expectancy.  My last PFT done> > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint> â€"only 19% of predictedâ€"but the lung volume and othertests were> not bad at all.      Docsaid there may be a variation in> equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will tell> more.> > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is> going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone. I am> really in a quandary.> > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of a> diet when

dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much for> me to handle. I don't want to feel deprived. It's notthat I eat> much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I just> make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.> > > There, I got it off my chest.. Any suggestions/> recommendations would be welcome.> > > Sue D.> > > 62 yr old, Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07, VA> > > ÂÂ> > >> >>

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Caro you really do need to use the oxygen and as everyone will tell

you even better than i carrying things, vacuuming, bending over,

just walking up the stairs is difficult and frustrating like you

said. i know linda and joyce have reminded me of ways of doing

things to conserve energy and my breath.

i have to tell you i too suck the air in and have done it for years

and in front of patients and i call it my backwards burp.. i have

not been able to explain it to my docs but i do understand why it

happens. never has happened when i was eating; that is scarey..

take care and good luck.. the group can give you alot of good ideas.

patti, nj, ipf 7'06, raynauds,scleroderma, PH 2'07

> > > >

> > > > Jack,

> > > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an

anti-

> > inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

> > Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> > > >

> > > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

> I'm

> > not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just

> sharing

> > what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable

> with

> > this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke

who

> is

> > completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

> > more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and

> encouragement

> > of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > > >  

> > > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > > Moderator

> > > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > >  

> > > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am

> very

> > interested in one.  Can you share info

> > > > on what it consists of?

> > > >  Jack

> > > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sue,

> > > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

> > talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you

do

> in

> > order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

> > considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

> > considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also

realize

> > that could change at any time.

> > > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

> which

> > means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition

helps

> > to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on

> that

> > obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on,

he has

> told

> > me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

> > varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

> > literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on

what

> > caused it.

> > > >

> > > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from

anything

> > else I've ever done.  I've begun working with a

nutritionist

> from

> > the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

> > inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

> > (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can

help

> my

> > body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work

for

> > me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've

done

> up

> > till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> > > >

> > > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > > Moderator

> > > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > >  

> > > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi friends:  I'd like to jump in here.  I have always

had

> a

> > weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day)

and

> > prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months.  I

gained

> > about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

> > transplant at Duke.  That 100 lbs might as well be 1000

lbs. 

> I am

> > looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an

> ins.

> > Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and

a

> > recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test.  I am in

> the

> > process of getting this info together.  My pulmodoc at Duke

has

> > hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. 

My

> > local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

> > prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure

if

> > I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing

he

> > told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of

> life

> > expectancy.   My last PFT done

> > > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

> > †" only 19% of predicted†" but the lung volume and other

> tests were

> > not bad at all.        Doc said there may be a

> variation in

> > equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will

tell

> > more.

> > > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

> > going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone.  I

am

> > really in a quandary.

> > > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of

a

> > diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much

for

> > me to handle.  I don't want to feel deprived.  It's not

that

> I eat

> > much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I

> just

> > make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > > > There, I got it off my chest..  Any suggestions/

> > recommendations would be welcome.

> > > > Sue D.

> > > > 62 yr old,  Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07,  VA

> > > >  

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date:

> 02/18/09 20:55:00

> >

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Caro you really do need to use the oxygen and as everyone will tell

you even better than i carrying things, vacuuming, bending over,

just walking up the stairs is difficult and frustrating like you

said. i know linda and joyce have reminded me of ways of doing

things to conserve energy and my breath.

i have to tell you i too suck the air in and have done it for years

and in front of patients and i call it my backwards burp.. i have

not been able to explain it to my docs but i do understand why it

happens. never has happened when i was eating; that is scarey..

take care and good luck.. the group can give you alot of good ideas.

patti, nj, ipf 7'06, raynauds,scleroderma, PH 2'07

> > > >

> > > > Jack,

> > > > Dr. Weil's website has alot of information on an

anti-

> > inflammatory diet. Here is a link to his food pyramid:

> > > > http://www.drweil. com/drw/u/ ART02995/ Dr-Weil-Anti-

> > Inflammatory- Food-Pyramid. html

> > > >

> > > > I realize that this may be controversial to some people..

> I'm

> > not saying anyone should make the same changes I have, just

> sharing

> > what I've been working on diet wise. I feel very comfortable

> with

> > this partly because I'm working with a nutritionist at Duke

who

> is

> > completely familiar with my medical situation and my history and

> > more importantly I' m doing this with the blessing and

> encouragement

> > of both my pulmonologist and my rheumatologist at Duke.

> > > >  

> > > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > > Moderator

> > > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > >  

> > > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck@ .

> > > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04:42 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > MB, I've never heard of an anti-inflammatory diet, but I am

> very

> > interested in one.  Can you share info

> > > > on what it consists of?

> > > >  Jack

> > > > 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Beth mbmurtha (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> > > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:35:19 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sue,

> > > > I struggle with the same issue that you've all been

> > talking about. I need to lose around the same amount as you

do

> in

> > order to go any further with transplant. Fortunately I am still

> > considered way to healthy (I find that somewhat amusing) to be

> > considered for transplant, overweight or not. But I also

realize

> > that could change at any time.

> > > > My nsip seems to have been caused by the dermatomyositis

> which

> > means that theoretically controlling my auto-immune condition

helps

> > to prevent worsening of my lung condition. Can't count on

> that

> > obviously. Who do you see at Duke? I see Lake on,

he has

> told

> > me that life expectancy with nsip (both fibrotic and cellular)

> > varies tremendously from stats similar to IPF as you said to

> > literally decades of stability. It may ultimately depend on

what

> > caused it.

> > > >

> > > > What I'm doing right now is radically different from

anything

> > else I've ever done.  I've begun working with a

nutritionist

> from

> > the Duke Center for Living and have begun eating an 'anti-

> > inflammation' diet. I'm not at all focusing on losing weight

> > (though I am) it's more about choosing to eat foods that can

help

> my

> > body be as healthy as possible. I don't know how this will work

for

> > me over the long haul but I'm giving it a go cause what I've

done

> up

> > till now hasn't gotten me anything but aggravation.

> > > >

> > > > Beth in North Carolina

> > > > Moderator

> > > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositi s 11/08

> > > >  

> > > > " May you never take one single breath for granted "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > From: Sue Dassel sdassel (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> > > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:17:40 AM

> > > > Subject: Re: Support to Lose Weight

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi friends:  I'd like to jump in here.  I have always

had

> a

> > weight problem and have also been on Cellcept (3000 mg / day)

and

> > prednisone (now down to 5 mg) for the past 15 months.  I

gained

> > about 25 lbs and now need to lose 100 lbs to be considered for a

> > transplant at Duke.  That 100 lbs might as well be 1000

lbs. 

> I am

> > looking into a lap band or bypass and would be approved from an

> ins.

> > Standpoint, but before being considered Ihave to get an EKG, and

a

> > recent PFT, a psychologist eval and some other test.  I am in

> the

> > process of getting this info together.  My pulmodoc at Duke

has

> > hesitantly said he would approve of this procedure for me. 

My

> > local pulmodoc told me it's almost impossible to lose weight on

> > prednisone and I don't want to go through a lap band procedure

if

> > I'm only going to lose a small amount of weight. The other thing

he

> > told me was that fibrotic NSIP is very close to IPF in terms of

> life

> > expectancy.   My last PFT done

> > > > here locally was not very good from the diffusion standpoint

> > †" only 19% of predicted†" but the lung volume and other

> tests were

> > not bad at all.        Doc said there may be a

> variation in

> > equipment from here to Duke so I guess my test in March will

tell

> > more.

> > > > I am going back to Duke in March, and I have a feeling he is

> > going to change the meds and probably up the prednisone.  I

am

> > really in a quandary.

> > > > I know part of my eating is psychological and the thought of

a

> > diet when dealing with this terminal disease is almost too much

for

> > me to handle.  I don't want to feel deprived.  It's not

that

> I eat

> > much in quantity because I feel terrible if I have overeaten, I

> just

> > make the wrong choices so I don't feel deprived.

> > > > There, I got it off my chest..  Any suggestions/

> > recommendations would be welcome.

> > > > Sue D.

> > > > 62 yr old,  Fibrotic NSIP dx 9/07,  VA

> > > >  

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date:

> 02/18/09 20:55:00

> >

>

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