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I saw a Shaman a couple of months ago and I can't wait to go back and see her

again. It was so energizing and relaxing at the same time. She pinpointed a lot

of things. When I went to see her, she only knew my first name and nothing more

about me. She went straight to work on my feet and said was quite taken by my

own energy. She said that my energy was incredible and hoped that I would learn

to use it to heal. During the healing, my body contorted and twisted (this

doesn't usually happen) I was amazed with the whole experience. When I left

there, I felt like I was floating on a cloud for the rest of the day. It

replenished my positive energy and outlook and I was very thankful for that. My

husband calls her my " voodoo doctor " of course he doesn't believe. I explained

to my husband that anything that made me feel so good and so completely ready to

go on fighting, was totally worth it.

I have a couple of friends that have also seen her and have had wonderful

experiences.

The Shaman I see warned me about seeking out spiritual healers because we all

know that there are a lot of people out there who are out to scam you, not heal

or help you. Some will charge $100 or more... She charges $40 IF you can afford

it. She would do a healing for 40 cents just for the sake of helping someone.

Onale

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> Hello all

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> I was wondering if anyone here had consulted a shaman; and if so -

what was that experience like?

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> laxity@e...

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I have never " consulted " a shaman as such, but one of our guest

presenters when I was in school was a Lakota Sioux Shadow Warrior.

Part of his presentation was to put the class through a Medicine

Wheel ritual. His name was Quinn. I also have a couple of classmates

who have done a fair amount of studying with various shamans.

From a couple of posts of mine over the last couple of days, you

already know that I have had first hand experience on the receiving

end of " western " pyschology and psychiatry. In total candor and

honesty, if I ever again felt the need for " counseling, " I would

contact Quinn before I would any " western trained " counselor. Quinn

had a sense of empathy that I have never experienced with any of the

traditional head docs I have seen in the past. I was impressed.

We have all been brainwashed into a mind-set that traditional,

native culture, healers are just cartoon witch doctors, with all the

negative connotations that the term implies. The reality is far

different. Western science is constantly discovering that the herbs

and potions being used do in fact have solid scientific validity.

Many, many so-called wonder drugs being peddled by the big

pharmaceutical companies are nothing more than chemical

distillations of ingredients found in various plants being used all

over the world by " shamans " and " witch doctors. " And the " scientific

discoveries " came about because the native healers were getting

obvious results. Samples of the plants were then taken to labs for

chemical analyses and tests to determine if the active ingredients

could be manufactured artificially, thereby allowing the drug

company to patent it, market it, and make lots and lots of money.

And then there is the issue of " energy. " I have paid particularly

close attention the last couple of years to documentaries on native

healers and other alternative approaches. The more involved I have

personally become with energy work and alternative modalities, the

more aware I have become of the prevalence of it across cultural

lines.

An untrained observer is simply going to see what looks like

a " ritual " being performed. There have been many cases where I have

seen something completely different because I know what they are

doing with their hands and the results that can be expected of it. I

have seen documentaries where the native healer is talking about

moving evil spirits or vapors out of the patient's body, but the

healer's hands are actually doing a form of lymphatic drainage. Or

they talk about the patient being out of balance and they are doing

a type of energy work.

So, there is no way that I am going to automatically discount or

downplay potential benefit or results from consulting a shaman. It

is like any " profession. " There are good and bad, competent and

incompetent, practitioners in all fields. You just need to do your

own research and reference checking before you go that route.

On the other hand, I am also going to issue a very strong warning.

Since some shamanistic practices involve herbs and plant potions,

you absolutely need to know what you are doing before you even

consider taking any of them, especially if you are already taking

serious doses of other medications. If you can't depend on your

doctor or pharmacist to keep you adequately informed of all of the

side effects and interactions of prescribed medications, how can you

possibly make a rational decision about taking something about which

you know nothing at all of the active ingredients? Some of the

active plant ingredients are extremely potent and could pose a very

serious risk of adverse interactions with something else you are

taking. They could suppress the effects of your other meds, highten

them, or turn toxic when used in combination.

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