Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab Results

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In a message dated 12/6/2004 9:24:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> the ups and downs of what the

> medical profession was calling bipolar disorder

have you seen dr. phelps site on bipolar and thyroid...and he talks about

combination T4/T3 therapy?

Cindi

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In a message dated 12/6/2004 9:24:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> the ups and downs of what the

> medical profession was calling bipolar disorder

have you seen dr. phelps site on bipolar and thyroid...and he talks about

combination T4/T3 therapy?

Cindi

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In a message dated 12/6/2004 2:56:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Cjoi@... writes:

> dumb question, can men be hypoT? do they have to be skinny or can they be

> round and

> exhausted like me (52yo F)? I'm wondereing if my hubbie has this, too?

>

>

yes, men can certainly be hypo...it's just more common in women. and it's

said that hypos often marry hypos. check him out.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/6/2004 2:56:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Cjoi@... writes:

> dumb question, can men be hypoT? do they have to be skinny or can they be

> round and

> exhausted like me (52yo F)? I'm wondereing if my hubbie has this, too?

>

>

yes, men can certainly be hypo...it's just more common in women. and it's

said that hypos often marry hypos. check him out.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/6/2004 2:56:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Cjoi@... writes:

> dumb question, can men be hypoT? do they have to be skinny or can they be

> round and

> exhausted like me (52yo F)? I'm wondereing if my hubbie has this, too?

>

>

yes, men can certainly be hypo...it's just more common in women. and it's

said that hypos often marry hypos. check him out.

cindi

[Guest guest]

my DR is a man, Has hshi and is hypo

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

Results

I've spoken about my brother before, other things about him that make me

believe this. Trying to help others

[Guest guest]

dumb question, can men be hypoT? do they have to be skinny or can they be round

and

exhausted like me (52yo F)? I'm wondereing if my hubbie has this, too?

....C

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

Results

I've spoken about my brother before, other things about him that make me

believe this. Trying to help others

[Guest guest]

Inga, well said! I totally agree!

in Va.

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

Results

on 12/4/04 4:08 PM, Caroline Pollak at MamaMaha@... wrote:

> Kerry,

> I wish I could talk about all this with my Mom too. She died 10 years

> ago...and her autopsy indicated she had Hashimoto's. She tried all her

life

> to get

> help for her many symptoms...and no one ever helped her.

> Cindi

Yes. It is the same way with my mom. She tried so hard...and even wanted to

believe in alternative methods, and natural things...but they just had her

over a barrel and too scared.

They had her believeing that if she did not do what they said and told her

to do, she would be even sicker and die. SO sad.

She died of heart failure last summer after a valiant struggle.

Now that I really know all the HYPO symptoms, she was a total

dead-ringer...and adrenals too.

The poor woman was absolutely freezing at 68 degrees, but when it got over

74 degrees she was too hot.

SHe complained that she had no eyebrows left.

And talk about narcolepsy and sleep apnea. She would fall asleep right in

front of us and start snoring eith her eyes wide open, until she woke from

not breating right....then she would not remember that she had been asleep.

SHe had zero energy during the day, said she felt utterly wiped out and

slept a lot, but miraculously...woke up late at night and then got some

energy, doing her chores in the middle of the night

She had long hair until she died, and was so amazed that her very straight

hair had become wavey and somewhat coarser...even though 1/2 of it had

fallen out.

Her digestion was poor, but she thought it was great.

She had a bad high blood pressure problems and it was a real probelm to

medicate it down. And her colesterol was always being medicated for. She

finally practically quit eating anythig good for her, becasue she thought it

would raise her colesterol and blood pressure. They had her on

everything...except thyroid, of course.

They had had her on thyroid when she was younger, but at a time when my

father left for Europe to work on his doctorate, and she was alone with me

as a young teen, they said she no longer needed thyroid and they simply

stopped the prescription. Gee...I wonder if that is why she suddenly had the

" nervous breakdown " or psychotic break or whatever you would call it. She

went to a psychiatrist, but was too paranoid of her...

Months later, with no other help except for some time, she slowly came out

of it on her own.

Oh, I forgot all the bruising from virtually nothing all the time.

ANyway, by now I could be simply reciting what is aon Dr Rind's chart.

It took me awhile to really put the pieces together and I guess I have

needed to write about it. (Mercury issues were also at play for her, but not

to the degree that I have them. Interesting, since mothers pass a sh*tload

on to their unborn children when their immune systems are not yet developed)

I believe she pretty much died of thyroid related heart failure, further

complicated by prescription drugs.

My reason for bothering to write this, (other than getting it off my chest)

is just to say that we can not bring our beloved mothers back, but we can

carry the torch in their names by doing what we are doing....whch is NOT

BUYING INTO THE CRAP THAT THE AMA WOULD WANT US TO BELIEVE, and by

participating in a site like this and speaking up and helping wherever we

can.

Okay...maybe sometimes we will even make mistakes or be wrong here or there,

but the point is that we are speaking up, cutting the crap, and demanding

that our voices be heard....taking charge of our own lives/bodies.

In a much broader scope of vision, therein lies the real healing and

miracle in all of this.

SO in memory of our mothers and dear ones, I support and applaud all of

those who are brave and willing to not buy into the system and to get up on

their soap boxes when they can, and scream bloody murder.

(The sad issue remains our community concern that there may be a possibility

this site is having a negative effect on the availability of ARMOUR

thyroid.)

Enough said. I just wanted to think about the point that their lives and

ailing will not have been in vain, if it serves as an impetus for our quest

in seeking truth and healing for all.

For Mom,

~Inga

PS - My next question is:

" Why are out thyroids not functioning the way they should? "

[Guest guest]

Inga, well said! I totally agree!

in Va.

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

Results

on 12/4/04 4:08 PM, Caroline Pollak at MamaMaha@... wrote:

> Kerry,

> I wish I could talk about all this with my Mom too. She died 10 years

> ago...and her autopsy indicated she had Hashimoto's. She tried all her

life

> to get

> help for her many symptoms...and no one ever helped her.

> Cindi

Yes. It is the same way with my mom. She tried so hard...and even wanted to

believe in alternative methods, and natural things...but they just had her

over a barrel and too scared.

They had her believeing that if she did not do what they said and told her

to do, she would be even sicker and die. SO sad.

She died of heart failure last summer after a valiant struggle.

Now that I really know all the HYPO symptoms, she was a total

dead-ringer...and adrenals too.

The poor woman was absolutely freezing at 68 degrees, but when it got over

74 degrees she was too hot.

SHe complained that she had no eyebrows left.

And talk about narcolepsy and sleep apnea. She would fall asleep right in

front of us and start snoring eith her eyes wide open, until she woke from

not breating right....then she would not remember that she had been asleep.

SHe had zero energy during the day, said she felt utterly wiped out and

slept a lot, but miraculously...woke up late at night and then got some

energy, doing her chores in the middle of the night

She had long hair until she died, and was so amazed that her very straight

hair had become wavey and somewhat coarser...even though 1/2 of it had

fallen out.

Her digestion was poor, but she thought it was great.

She had a bad high blood pressure problems and it was a real probelm to

medicate it down. And her colesterol was always being medicated for. She

finally practically quit eating anythig good for her, becasue she thought it

would raise her colesterol and blood pressure. They had her on

everything...except thyroid, of course.

They had had her on thyroid when she was younger, but at a time when my

father left for Europe to work on his doctorate, and she was alone with me

as a young teen, they said she no longer needed thyroid and they simply

stopped the prescription. Gee...I wonder if that is why she suddenly had the

" nervous breakdown " or psychotic break or whatever you would call it. She

went to a psychiatrist, but was too paranoid of her...

Months later, with no other help except for some time, she slowly came out

of it on her own.

Oh, I forgot all the bruising from virtually nothing all the time.

ANyway, by now I could be simply reciting what is aon Dr Rind's chart.

It took me awhile to really put the pieces together and I guess I have

needed to write about it. (Mercury issues were also at play for her, but not

to the degree that I have them. Interesting, since mothers pass a sh*tload

on to their unborn children when their immune systems are not yet developed)

I believe she pretty much died of thyroid related heart failure, further

complicated by prescription drugs.

My reason for bothering to write this, (other than getting it off my chest)

is just to say that we can not bring our beloved mothers back, but we can

carry the torch in their names by doing what we are doing....whch is NOT

BUYING INTO THE CRAP THAT THE AMA WOULD WANT US TO BELIEVE, and by

participating in a site like this and speaking up and helping wherever we

can.

Okay...maybe sometimes we will even make mistakes or be wrong here or there,

but the point is that we are speaking up, cutting the crap, and demanding

that our voices be heard....taking charge of our own lives/bodies.

In a much broader scope of vision, therein lies the real healing and

miracle in all of this.

SO in memory of our mothers and dear ones, I support and applaud all of

those who are brave and willing to not buy into the system and to get up on

their soap boxes when they can, and scream bloody murder.

(The sad issue remains our community concern that there may be a possibility

this site is having a negative effect on the availability of ARMOUR

thyroid.)

Enough said. I just wanted to think about the point that their lives and

ailing will not have been in vain, if it serves as an impetus for our quest

in seeking truth and healing for all.

For Mom,

~Inga

PS - My next question is:

" Why are out thyroids not functioning the way they should? "

[Guest guest]

Inga, well said! I totally agree!

in Va.

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

Results

on 12/4/04 4:08 PM, Caroline Pollak at MamaMaha@... wrote:

> Kerry,

> I wish I could talk about all this with my Mom too. She died 10 years

> ago...and her autopsy indicated she had Hashimoto's. She tried all her

life

> to get

> help for her many symptoms...and no one ever helped her.

> Cindi

Yes. It is the same way with my mom. She tried so hard...and even wanted to

believe in alternative methods, and natural things...but they just had her

over a barrel and too scared.

They had her believeing that if she did not do what they said and told her

to do, she would be even sicker and die. SO sad.

She died of heart failure last summer after a valiant struggle.

Now that I really know all the HYPO symptoms, she was a total

dead-ringer...and adrenals too.

The poor woman was absolutely freezing at 68 degrees, but when it got over

74 degrees she was too hot.

SHe complained that she had no eyebrows left.

And talk about narcolepsy and sleep apnea. She would fall asleep right in

front of us and start snoring eith her eyes wide open, until she woke from

not breating right....then she would not remember that she had been asleep.

SHe had zero energy during the day, said she felt utterly wiped out and

slept a lot, but miraculously...woke up late at night and then got some

energy, doing her chores in the middle of the night

She had long hair until she died, and was so amazed that her very straight

hair had become wavey and somewhat coarser...even though 1/2 of it had

fallen out.

Her digestion was poor, but she thought it was great.

She had a bad high blood pressure problems and it was a real probelm to

medicate it down. And her colesterol was always being medicated for. She

finally practically quit eating anythig good for her, becasue she thought it

would raise her colesterol and blood pressure. They had her on

everything...except thyroid, of course.

They had had her on thyroid when she was younger, but at a time when my

father left for Europe to work on his doctorate, and she was alone with me

as a young teen, they said she no longer needed thyroid and they simply

stopped the prescription. Gee...I wonder if that is why she suddenly had the

" nervous breakdown " or psychotic break or whatever you would call it. She

went to a psychiatrist, but was too paranoid of her...

Months later, with no other help except for some time, she slowly came out

of it on her own.

Oh, I forgot all the bruising from virtually nothing all the time.

ANyway, by now I could be simply reciting what is aon Dr Rind's chart.

It took me awhile to really put the pieces together and I guess I have

needed to write about it. (Mercury issues were also at play for her, but not

to the degree that I have them. Interesting, since mothers pass a sh*tload

on to their unborn children when their immune systems are not yet developed)

I believe she pretty much died of thyroid related heart failure, further

complicated by prescription drugs.

My reason for bothering to write this, (other than getting it off my chest)

is just to say that we can not bring our beloved mothers back, but we can

carry the torch in their names by doing what we are doing....whch is NOT

BUYING INTO THE CRAP THAT THE AMA WOULD WANT US TO BELIEVE, and by

participating in a site like this and speaking up and helping wherever we

can.

Okay...maybe sometimes we will even make mistakes or be wrong here or there,

but the point is that we are speaking up, cutting the crap, and demanding

that our voices be heard....taking charge of our own lives/bodies.

In a much broader scope of vision, therein lies the real healing and

miracle in all of this.

SO in memory of our mothers and dear ones, I support and applaud all of

those who are brave and willing to not buy into the system and to get up on

their soap boxes when they can, and scream bloody murder.

(The sad issue remains our community concern that there may be a possibility

this site is having a negative effect on the availability of ARMOUR

thyroid.)

Enough said. I just wanted to think about the point that their lives and

ailing will not have been in vain, if it serves as an impetus for our quest

in seeking truth and healing for all.

For Mom,

~Inga

PS - My next question is:

" Why are out thyroids not functioning the way they should? "

[Guest guest]

None of this is very encouraging for me at all with all my symptoms & at my age,

67, when I feel like I'm dying of heart failure myself & have been maltreated

for all these many years. Finally I'm on Armour & still looking for a dr who

knows their stuff. But what cellular damage has already been done & how long

will it take that I'll ever get better, if that's possible at all at this

advanced stage?

Caroline........ (Wishing at least one of my four kids were as concerned about

me or knew as much about thyroid dysfunction as Cindi & Inga were about their

moms)

Re: *CIndi & Inga'S MOM (was: Help withLab

Results

on 12/4/04 4:08 PM, Caroline Pollak at MamaMaha@... wrote:

> Kerry,

> I wish I could talk about all this with my Mom too. She died 10 years

> ago...and her autopsy indicated she had Hashimoto's. She tried all her

life

> to get

> help for her many symptoms...and no one ever helped her.

> Cindi

Yes. It is the same way with my mom. She tried so hard...and even wanted to

believe in alternative methods, and natural things...but they just had her

over a barrel and too scared.

They had her believeing that if she did not do what they said and told her

to do, she would be even sicker and die. SO sad.

She died of heart failure last summer after a valiant struggle.

Now that I really know all the HYPO symptoms, she was a total

dead-ringer...and adrenals too.

The poor woman was absolutely freezing at 68 degrees, but when it got over

74 degrees she was too hot.

SHe complained that she had no eyebrows left.

And talk about narcolepsy and sleep apnea. She would fall asleep right in

front of us and start snoring eith her eyes wide open, until she woke from

not breating right....then she would not remember that she had been asleep.

SHe had zero energy during the day, said she felt utterly wiped out and

slept a lot, but miraculously...woke up late at night and then got some

energy, doing her chores in the middle of the night

She had long hair until she died, and was so amazed that her very straight

hair had become wavey and somewhat coarser...even though 1/2 of it had

fallen out.

Her digestion was poor, but she thought it was great.

She had a bad high blood pressure problems and it was a real probelm to

medicate it down. And her colesterol was always being medicated for. She

finally practically quit eating anythig good for her, becasue she thought it

would raise her colesterol and blood pressure. They had her on

everything...except thyroid, of course.

They had had her on thyroid when she was younger, but at a time when my

father left for Europe to work on his doctorate, and she was alone with me

as a young teen, they said she no longer needed thyroid and they simply

stopped the prescription. Gee...I wonder if that is why she suddenly had the

" nervous breakdown " or psychotic break or whatever you would call it. She

went to a psychiatrist, but was too paranoid of her...

Months later, with no other help except for some time, she slowly came out

of it on her own.

Oh, I forgot all the bruising from virtually nothing all the time.

ANyway, by now I could be simply reciting what is aon Dr Rind's chart.

It took me awhile to really put the pieces together and I guess I have

needed to write about it. (Mercury issues were also at play for her, but not

to the degree that I have them. Interesting, since mothers pass a sh*tload

on to their unborn children when their immune systems are not yet developed)

I believe she pretty much died of thyroid related heart failure, further

complicated by prescription drugs.

My reason for bothering to write this, (other than getting it off my chest)

is just to say that we can not bring our beloved mothers back, but we can

carry the torch in their names by doing what we are doing....whch is NOT

BUYING INTO THE CRAP THAT THE AMA WOULD WANT US TO BELIEVE, and by

participating in a site like this and speaking up and helping wherever we

can.

Okay...maybe sometimes we will even make mistakes or be wrong here or there,

but the point is that we are speaking up, cutting the crap, and demanding

that our voices be heard....taking charge of our own lives/bodies.

In a much broader scope of vision, therein lies the real healing and

miracle in all of this.

SO in memory of our mothers and dear ones, I support and applaud all of

those who are brave and willing to not buy into the system and to get up on

their soap boxes when they can, and scream bloody murder.

(The sad issue remains our community concern that there may be a possibility

this site is having a negative effect on the availability of ARMOUR

thyroid.)

Enough said. I just wanted to think about the point that their lives and

ailing will not have been in vain, if it serves as an impetus for our quest

in seeking truth and healing for all.

For Mom,

~Inga

PS - My next question is:

" Why are out thyroids not functioning the way they should? "