Guest guest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that he really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I called, the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than that. I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I really don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it and that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind of hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll see what the neurosurgeon says. and BCF 03/25/2004 DBB 23/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Well, the neurosurgeon said that he thought was a healthy little boy and that his head was mild to moderate. He said we could get the band if we wanted to, but he would recommend repositioning. He even said if it were his child, he would do the repositioning. He did point out that if we went to 10 different neurosurgeons, 5 would say get it and 5 would say he didn't need it. So, it's basically up to us. Since the doc said it was mild to moderate and he would treat it with repositioning, even if it were his own child, that's what we're going to do....at least at this point. The doc said it's a slow process since the growth of the brain is the driving force, but his head should round out and anything that might left will be hidden by his hair. This all should happen over the next year or so. I've noticed some improvement over the last 2 weeks or so since he's not spent as much time on his back and has been out of swings and bouncy chairs, so I'm sure he will continue to improve. The doc even said that they often times recommend a second band after the first one, and that even though he's friends with the woman who does the band, she has a vested interest in this and recommends that everyone she evaluates gets the band. If it's not necessary, we aren't going to put him through having the casting done on his head and then wearing the band 23 hours a day for 3 months. So, basically, the physical therapist that evaluated him first made his condition sound a lot worse than it really is. and BCF 03/25/2004 DBB 23/7 OT DOC Band > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that he > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I called, > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > that. > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I really > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it and > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind of > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > and > BCF 03/25/2004 > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 The problem is from what they call Back to Sleep. Since they started having parents putting their kids on their backs to sleep, the incidence of SIDS has dropped, but they've seen more flat heads now since the kids spend a lot more time on their backs. Clubfoot has nothing to do with it. It's called deformational plagiocephaly, which is more on one side than the other. There's also brachiocephaly, which is more the back of the head. The best thing you can do is to keep him off the back of his head as much as possible. You should still have him on his back to sleep though. During the day when he is supervised, place him on his tummy several times throughout the day. If you see that one side looks flatter than the other, say his left side, when he's lying on his back, try turning his head so he's looking to his right. If he's lying on his tummy with his head on the floor, sleeping for instance, turn his head so he's looking to his left. That way, the flatter side isn't getting any flatter and as time goes by, will hopefully round out. If he's awake and on his tummy and looking around, don't worry about it. They suggest alternating which end of his crib he sleeps in too. They want to be able to look out and see what's going on, so try to alternate which end they sleep at so they'll be looking out to see what's going on, but alternating which way they turn their head to look...if that makes sense. Once my son's head evens out on the sides, I'll be alternating the direction he looks, but right now, he needs to look more to his right until the left side of his head rounds out a bit more. I also need to keep him off the back of his head as much as possible so the back grows and rounds out as well. My son will only put up with tummy time for maybe 10-15 minutes at a time, but that's better than he used to be. He's also able to support his head really well, so he can go into one of those playstations, like the Exersaucer, for a little while too. Plus, I hold him often throughout the day, or try to prop him up in a sitting position. He still gets to lay on his back on the floor too so he can work on eventually being able to roll over, but at times, I'll also lay him on a pillow so his head isn't against an ungiving surface all the time, but supervised of course. If you're concerned about it, I would talk to his pediatrician and see what they think, or even ask for a referral to a pediatric neurosurgeon for an evaluation. This doesn't cause problems with the brain or anything, but it can cause a misshapen head if it continues. and BCF 03/25/2004 DBB 23/7 OT DOC Band > > > > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that > he > > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I > called, > > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > > that. > > > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I > really > > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it > and > > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind > of > > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > > > and > > BCF 03/25/2004 > > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 The problem is from what they call Back to Sleep. Since they started having parents putting their kids on their backs to sleep, the incidence of SIDS has dropped, but they've seen more flat heads now since the kids spend a lot more time on their backs. Clubfoot has nothing to do with it. It's called deformational plagiocephaly, which is more on one side than the other. There's also brachiocephaly, which is more the back of the head. The best thing you can do is to keep him off the back of his head as much as possible. You should still have him on his back to sleep though. During the day when he is supervised, place him on his tummy several times throughout the day. If you see that one side looks flatter than the other, say his left side, when he's lying on his back, try turning his head so he's looking to his right. If he's lying on his tummy with his head on the floor, sleeping for instance, turn his head so he's looking to his left. That way, the flatter side isn't getting any flatter and as time goes by, will hopefully round out. If he's awake and on his tummy and looking around, don't worry about it. They suggest alternating which end of his crib he sleeps in too. They want to be able to look out and see what's going on, so try to alternate which end they sleep at so they'll be looking out to see what's going on, but alternating which way they turn their head to look...if that makes sense. Once my son's head evens out on the sides, I'll be alternating the direction he looks, but right now, he needs to look more to his right until the left side of his head rounds out a bit more. I also need to keep him off the back of his head as much as possible so the back grows and rounds out as well. My son will only put up with tummy time for maybe 10-15 minutes at a time, but that's better than he used to be. He's also able to support his head really well, so he can go into one of those playstations, like the Exersaucer, for a little while too. Plus, I hold him often throughout the day, or try to prop him up in a sitting position. He still gets to lay on his back on the floor too so he can work on eventually being able to roll over, but at times, I'll also lay him on a pillow so his head isn't against an ungiving surface all the time, but supervised of course. If you're concerned about it, I would talk to his pediatrician and see what they think, or even ask for a referral to a pediatric neurosurgeon for an evaluation. This doesn't cause problems with the brain or anything, but it can cause a misshapen head if it continues. and BCF 03/25/2004 DBB 23/7 OT DOC Band > > > > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that > he > > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I > called, > > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > > that. > > > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I > really > > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it > and > > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind > of > > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > > > and > > BCF 03/25/2004 > > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 The problem is from what they call Back to Sleep. Since they started having parents putting their kids on their backs to sleep, the incidence of SIDS has dropped, but they've seen more flat heads now since the kids spend a lot more time on their backs. Clubfoot has nothing to do with it. It's called deformational plagiocephaly, which is more on one side than the other. There's also brachiocephaly, which is more the back of the head. The best thing you can do is to keep him off the back of his head as much as possible. You should still have him on his back to sleep though. During the day when he is supervised, place him on his tummy several times throughout the day. If you see that one side looks flatter than the other, say his left side, when he's lying on his back, try turning his head so he's looking to his right. If he's lying on his tummy with his head on the floor, sleeping for instance, turn his head so he's looking to his left. That way, the flatter side isn't getting any flatter and as time goes by, will hopefully round out. If he's awake and on his tummy and looking around, don't worry about it. They suggest alternating which end of his crib he sleeps in too. They want to be able to look out and see what's going on, so try to alternate which end they sleep at so they'll be looking out to see what's going on, but alternating which way they turn their head to look...if that makes sense. Once my son's head evens out on the sides, I'll be alternating the direction he looks, but right now, he needs to look more to his right until the left side of his head rounds out a bit more. I also need to keep him off the back of his head as much as possible so the back grows and rounds out as well. My son will only put up with tummy time for maybe 10-15 minutes at a time, but that's better than he used to be. He's also able to support his head really well, so he can go into one of those playstations, like the Exersaucer, for a little while too. Plus, I hold him often throughout the day, or try to prop him up in a sitting position. He still gets to lay on his back on the floor too so he can work on eventually being able to roll over, but at times, I'll also lay him on a pillow so his head isn't against an ungiving surface all the time, but supervised of course. If you're concerned about it, I would talk to his pediatrician and see what they think, or even ask for a referral to a pediatric neurosurgeon for an evaluation. This doesn't cause problems with the brain or anything, but it can cause a misshapen head if it continues. and BCF 03/25/2004 DBB 23/7 OT DOC Band > > > > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that > he > > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I > called, > > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > > that. > > > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I > really > > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it > and > > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind > of > > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > > > and > > BCF 03/25/2004 > > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I'm glad to hear it's not as bad as you feared. s. OT DOC Band > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that he > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I called, > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > that. > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I really > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it and > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind of > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > and > BCF 03/25/2004 > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I'm glad to hear it's not as bad as you feared. s. OT DOC Band > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that he > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I called, > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > that. > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I really > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it and > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind of > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > and > BCF 03/25/2004 > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 It may not seem as easy to hold your baby while he's wearing the DBB 23/7, it's not really necessary to confine them to chairs or swings, etc., either. A blanket on the floor they can play on their belly, and the bar actually seems to help them sit up earlier than most because it forms a " tripod " to balance them on. I would lay pillows behind mine and set him up, then if he lost his balance and fell backwards, he hit a soft surface. Flat heads and club foot shouldn't go hand-n-hand. A sling works with the DBB and a Hip Hammock would work really well too for carrying a baby wearing the DBB, giving them more up-right time and less flat on their back time. s. OT DOC Band > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that he > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I called, > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > that. > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I really > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it and > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind of > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > and > BCF 03/25/2004 > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 It may not seem as easy to hold your baby while he's wearing the DBB 23/7, it's not really necessary to confine them to chairs or swings, etc., either. A blanket on the floor they can play on their belly, and the bar actually seems to help them sit up earlier than most because it forms a " tripod " to balance them on. I would lay pillows behind mine and set him up, then if he lost his balance and fell backwards, he hit a soft surface. Flat heads and club foot shouldn't go hand-n-hand. A sling works with the DBB and a Hip Hammock would work really well too for carrying a baby wearing the DBB, giving them more up-right time and less flat on their back time. s. OT DOC Band > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that he > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I called, > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > that. > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I really > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it and > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind of > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > and > BCF 03/25/2004 > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 It may not seem as easy to hold your baby while he's wearing the DBB 23/7, it's not really necessary to confine them to chairs or swings, etc., either. A blanket on the floor they can play on their belly, and the bar actually seems to help them sit up earlier than most because it forms a " tripod " to balance them on. I would lay pillows behind mine and set him up, then if he lost his balance and fell backwards, he hit a soft surface. Flat heads and club foot shouldn't go hand-n-hand. A sling works with the DBB and a Hip Hammock would work really well too for carrying a baby wearing the DBB, giving them more up-right time and less flat on their back time. s. OT DOC Band > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC band. I > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to get a > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of getting an > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure that he > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I called, > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician is > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot sooner than > that. > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I really > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best thing > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from it and > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm kind of > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but we'll > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > and > BCF 03/25/2004 > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 We used the Baby Bjorn daily and it worked great with the DBB! > It may not seem as easy to hold your baby while he's wearing the DBB > 23/7, it's not really necessary to confine them to chairs or swings, > etc., either. A blanket on the floor they can play on their belly, > and the bar actually seems to help them sit up earlier than most > because it forms a " tripod " to balance them on. I would lay pillows > behind mine and set him up, then if he lost his balance and fell > backwards, he hit a soft surface. Flat heads and club foot shouldn't > go hand-n-hand. A sling works with the DBB and a Hip Hammock would > work really well too for carrying a baby wearing the DBB, giving them > more up-right time and less flat on their back time. > s. > > OT DOC Band > > > > Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about the DOC > band. I > > talked to 's pediatrician today and she even wants us to > get a > > second opinion with a neurosurgeon, so we are in the process of > getting an > > appointment at the Cleveland Clinic for him. She wants to make sure > that > he > > really needs it, and if so, is this a good time to do it, if there's > > anything else we can do that doesn't involve the band, etc. When I > called, > > the first available appointment was in October, but the pediatrician > is > > supposed to call because she should be able to get us in a lot > sooner than > > that. > > > > I'll let you all know what we find out. I'm hoping that they'll try > > something else, like waiting to see if it does improve on its own. I > really > > don't want to have him put in this band, but I will if its the best > thing > > for him. The woman at the clinic said his face is asymmetrical from > it > and > > that can cause sinus, jaw, and teeth problems, which scares me. I'm > kind > of > > hoping that she is just trying to scare me into getting it done, but > we'll > > see what the neurosurgeon says. > > > > and > > BCF 03/25/2004 > > DBB 23/7 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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