Re: Re: poop smearing

[Guest guest]

Thank goodness, this was an isolated incident. My daughter was wearing only a

pull up and took it off. I think it was a case of stepping and walking in it

as opposed to purposefully smearing it. But she'll be wearing overalls for the

rest of her life!

With regard to her gut, Aly is in great shape right now, and I've been meaning

to share this info. I do give her Klaire probiotics and am using some

incredible enzymes that Dr. Bradstreet developed. She had been fully on SCD for

7 months, but was having horrible poop problems for the past few months. It was

sandy (with undigested nut flour) and the consistency of pea soup. I could

literally pour it from her diapers. I had been using Thropp's enzymes because

they are SCD legal.

At Dr. Bradstreet's suggestion, I started using Digest Right enzymes 7 weeks ago

and she's had normal, formed poops, once a day ever since. I've even been able

to add some non-SCD foods back into her diet with no problems, but she is still

very restricted. I have to say that 7 months of SCD is one of the best things

we've done for Aly. She is in great shape. She's gained weight and grown

taller and she looks really healthy.

I can highly recommend the Digest Right enzymes. In fact I'm setting up a

reselling account with the manufacturer so we will be able to offer them on the

National Autism Association website for a lower price than retail. Here's a

link if you want to check out the products.

http://www.integrativeinc.com/learnersedge/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=1 & tabid=\

177

Warmly,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 06/11/2006 14:43:24 GMT Standard Time, mazeway@...

writes:

The child in question is 4.5 and has recently taken to pooping in his

pants after more than a year of being potty trained. The mom has been

really cool about it, but I can't imagine taking it for long w/o

snapping. Thanks for the suggestions!

>My non-toilet trained son was smearing for 6 months, it was a nightmare, we

were treating for yeast.............what we had was bactiera having a field

day - thats the first time we used Collodial Silver - in 3 days he stopped

smearing and started using the toilet by himself for the first time ever. He

never smeared since, that was 2002 when he was 6 FWIW

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Deana,

The child obviously does not know better. How old is the child? My boy used

to do this when his diaper was not changed quickly.

The only answer I have in the short term is to keep an eye on the child.

Limit where the child goes -- keep him/her in a room with an adult at all times.

Make notes as to what time the child poops so an adult can be more alert at that

time.

The long term answer is to treat biomedically (chelate, MB12 whatever) and as

they heal, the storm will pass.

Best Jr <bettwice33@...> wrote:

One solution is to use the one piece pajamas, cut the feet off and put

it on backwards. Wrap Duck tape LOOSELY around the top a few times,

just under the armpits and over the top of the zipper. Kids can still

wriggle out but it slows them down a lot and buys you some time. I

have no idea how to stop the child from wanting to do this.

>

> I wonder if someone can help a friend of mine. I seem to recall

> hearing that there was a reasonably simple solution for this: Her son

> has begun smearing his poop all over the walls. Understandably, she's

> at her wits' end, having had a daughter who did the same thing a few

> years ago. Anyone?

>

> Thanks

> Deana in MD

>

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[Guest guest]

My son did this, it was the WORST! It lasted a whole summer and I can only

guess it ended because of more formed stools due to diet healing the gut.

HTH Sharon

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 06/11/2006 22:25:32 GMT Standard Time,

kylesmom@... writes:

My son has the same problem--but I would be afraid to use collodial silver

in a child with metal problems. Can anyone help explain ?

>>I believe a short sharp course of high quality, small particle size no

more than 10ppm Collodial Silver is going to do my metal toxic son less harm

than the bugs it kills. Its a when all else fails treatment here, used it about

4 times in 4 years. Source Naturals brand from iherb is good stuff IMHO

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Wow -- so he's doing this after being potty trained.

My guess is that this is a behaviorial issue. The child needs a time-out.

Just hold him for 20 minutes -- no fun activities -- this will require lots of

patience but eventually the kid will get it.

Just my 2 cents

shksthclwn <mazeway@...> wrote:

The child in question is 4.5 and has recently taken to pooping in his

pants after more than a year of being potty trained. The mom has been

really cool about it, but I can't imagine taking it for long w/o

snapping. Thanks for the suggestions!

deana

-- In , Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...>

wrote:

>

> Deana,

>

> The child obviously does not know better. How old is the child?

My boy used to do this when his diaper was not changed quickly.

>

> The only answer I have in the short term is to keep an eye on the

child. Limit where the child goes -- keep him/her in a room with an

adult at all times. Make notes as to what time the child poops so an

adult can be more alert at that time.

>

> The long term answer is to treat biomedically (chelate, MB12

whatever) and as they heal, the storm will pass.

>

> Best Jr <bettwice33@...> wrote:

> One solution is to use the one piece pajamas, cut the feet

off and put

> it on backwards. Wrap Duck tape LOOSELY around the top a few times,

> just under the armpits and over the top of the zipper. Kids can still

> wriggle out but it slows them down a lot and buys you some time. I

> have no idea how to stop the child from wanting to do this.

>

>

> >

> > I wonder if someone can help a friend of mine. I seem to recall

> > hearing that there was a reasonably simple solution for this: Her son

> > has begun smearing his poop all over the walls. Understandably, she's

> > at her wits' end, having had a daughter who did the same thing a few

> > years ago. Anyone?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Deana in MD

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My son has the same problem--but I would be afraid to use collodial silver

in a child with metal problems. Can anyone help explain ?

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Mum231ASD@...

Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:06 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: poop smearing

In a message dated 06/11/2006 14:43:24 GMT Standard Time, mazewayaol (DOT)

<mailto:mazeway%40aol.com> com

writes:

The child in question is 4.5 and has recently taken to pooping in his

pants after more than a year of being potty trained. The mom has been

really cool about it, but I can't imagine taking it for long w/o

snapping. Thanks for the suggestions!

>My non-toilet trained son was smearing for 6 months, it was a nightmare, we

were treating for yeast.............what we had was bactiera having a field

day - thats the first time we used Collodial Silver - in 3 days he stopped

smearing and started using the toilet by himself for the first time ever. He

never smeared since, that was 2002 when he was 6 FWIW

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

My son started doing poop smearing. He said y Potty, his doll, was

doing it. Finally I asked him why y Potty would do that. He said that

y was trying to get the poop out of his bottom, it was stuck. And then

he was trying to clean his hands so he put it on the wall. My son was HIGHLY

agitated about this. He is still having horrible problems. He says he can

only poop standing up (and in his underpants). We are going nuts.

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Abid Khan

Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:52 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: poop smearing

Wow -- so he's doing this after being potty trained.

My guess is that this is a behaviorial issue. The child needs a time-out.

Just hold him for 20 minutes -- no fun activities -- this will require lots

of patience but eventually the kid will get it.

Just my 2 cents

shksthclwn <mazewayaol (DOT) <mailto:mazeway%40aol.com> com> wrote:

The child in question is 4.5 and has recently taken to pooping in his

pants after more than a year of being potty trained. The mom has been

really cool about it, but I can't imagine taking it for long w/o

snapping. Thanks for the suggestions!

deana

-- In @ <mailto: %40>

, Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...>

wrote:

>

> Deana,

>

> The child obviously does not know better. How old is the child?

My boy used to do this when his diaper was not changed quickly.

>

> The only answer I have in the short term is to keep an eye on the

child. Limit where the child goes -- keep him/her in a room with an

adult at all times. Make notes as to what time the child poops so an

adult can be more alert at that time.

>

> The long term answer is to treat biomedically (chelate, MB12

whatever) and as they heal, the storm will pass.

>

> Best Jr <bettwice33@...> wrote:

> One solution is to use the one piece pajamas, cut the feet

off and put

> it on backwards. Wrap Duck tape LOOSELY around the top a few times,

> just under the armpits and over the top of the zipper. Kids can still

> wriggle out but it slows them down a lot and buys you some time. I

> have no idea how to stop the child from wanting to do this.

>

>

> >

> > I wonder if someone can help a friend of mine. I seem to recall

> > hearing that there was a reasonably simple solution for this: Her son

> > has begun smearing his poop all over the walls. Understandably, she's

> > at her wits' end, having had a daughter who did the same thing a few

> > years ago. Anyone?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Deana in MD

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2006 01:22:45 GMT Standard Time,

kylesmom@... writes:

Okay, gross question, but how do you get it out of the swirls in the paint

in the wall? Clorox wipes don't work. Sponges don't work.

This is that sticky stuff that I know my son is better since he got it out

of his body but yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkof his body but of hi

>>>>Toothbrush - but one saved just for the purpose of. Add a few drops of

lavender essential oil to the water - it really helps extinguish poop smells

She with experience in UK

[Guest guest]

Okay, gross question, but how do you get it out of the swirls in the paint

in the wall? Clorox wipes don't work. Sponges don't work.

This is that sticky stuff that I know my son is better since he got it out

of his body but yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of autismaware417

Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:48 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: poop smearing

> >

> > I wonder if someone can help a friend of mine. I seem to recall

> > hearing that there was a reasonably simple solution for this: Her

son

> > has begun smearing his poop all over the walls. Understandably,

she's

> > at her wits' end, having had a daughter who did the same thing a

few

> > years ago. Anyone?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Deana in MD

> >

>

> I have also had problems with this and a few other parents I know

have talked with me about the same thing happening to their children.

What I've noticed with MY son is that he will only do this when we

stop giving him the proper diet and detox. He doesn't do this when he

is eating properly and receiving his foot detox. There is really no

full proof plan to stop this behavior other than constantly watching

the child, which we all know is impossible. They are quick when it

comes to this... It is a nightmmare for a parent to walk in a room

where their child sits covered in poop and where the walls have been

decorated in poop as well.

I have to say for me personally this is the worst of the worst. I

find that my ability to stay calm flys out the window when this

happens. You want to yell and spank, but this is no good. The child

just doesn't understand. My only advice is to try detox and diet see

if things improve at all.

-

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I am so appreciative of the answers, and SO sorry that it's so common ... my

friend with only NT children asked me if my son is not pooping in the potty

for a " control issue " . I said " I don't think so given the look of both

abject terror and pain in his eyes when he goes " . . . I don't know if he's

capable of doing something like this for a control issue? (Yes he's

creative but he's not happy about this situation)

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of judyblondblue

Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:01 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: poop smearing

I've found that if white vinager won't do it, baking soda paste will

jbb

-- In @ <mailto: %40>

, " Carolyn Weissberg "

<kylesmom@...> wrote:

>

> Okay, gross question, but how do you get it out of the swirls in

the paint

> in the wall? Clorox wipes don't work. Sponges don't work.

> This is that sticky stuff that I know my son is better since he

got it out

> of his body but yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

>

> _____

>

> From: @ <mailto: %40>

[mailto:Autism-

Mercury@groups <mailto:Mercury%40> .com]

> On Behalf Of autismaware417

> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:48 PM

> @ <mailto: %40>

> Subject: [ ] Re: poop smearing

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I wonder if someone can help a friend of mine. I seem to recall

> > > hearing that there was a reasonably simple solution for this:

Her

> son

> > > has begun smearing his poop all over the walls.

Understandably,

> she's

> > > at her wits' end, having had a daughter who did the same thing

a

> few

> > > years ago. Anyone?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Deana in MD

> > >

> >

> > I have also had problems with this and a few other parents I

know

> have talked with me about the same thing happening to their

children.

> What I've noticed with MY son is that he will only do this when we

> stop giving him the proper diet and detox. He doesn't do this when

he

> is eating properly and receiving his foot detox. There is really

no

> full proof plan to stop this behavior other than constantly

watching

> the child, which we all know is impossible. They are quick when it

> comes to this... It is a nightmmare for a parent to walk in a room

> where their child sits covered in poop and where the walls have

been

> decorated in poop as well.

> I have to say for me personally this is the worst of the worst. I

> find that my ability to stay calm flys out the window when this

> happens. You want to yell and spank, but this is no good. The

child

> just doesn't understand. My only advice is to try detox and diet

see

> if things improve at all.

> -

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Very interesting. We are in a rental home that was built in the 80's though.

But we have rented homes that could have had lead in the past. And we're

doing TTFD and Glut (the quintet) right now. The weird thing is that he just

started this a few months ago (the occassional smearing). The problems with

the bathroom go back forever.

Thanks to everyone for all the helpful suggestions. I simply could never

find this out elsewhere!

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Asmus

Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:46 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: poop smearing

Both of my kids did this as well. I wonder, is her house built in the

50's and 60's? I had a suspicion it was lead paint that was causing

it, in addition to a bacterial problem. I have no " proof " , but I was

all over the city going to doctors trying to fix this problem- it was

quite serious for us. In the end, probiotics, enzymes, and diet fixed

the problem.

The swirls; clean it as best you can, and paint over it. Sounds like

you might be dealing with lead.

> > >

> > > I wonder if someone can help a friend of mine. I seem to recall

> > > hearing that there was a reasonably simple solution for this: Her

> son

> > > has begun smearing his poop all over the walls. Understandably,

> she's

> > > at her wits' end, having had a daughter who did the same thing a

> few

> > > years ago. Anyone?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Deana in MD

> > >

> >

> > I have also had problems with this and a few other parents I know

> have talked with me about the same thing happening to their children.

> What I've noticed with MY son is that he will only do this when we

> stop giving him the proper diet and detox. He doesn't do this when he

> is eating properly and receiving his foot detox. There is really no

> full proof plan to stop this behavior other than constantly watching

> the child, which we all know is impossible. They are quick when it

> comes to this... It is a nightmmare for a parent to walk in a room

> where their child sits covered in poop and where the walls have been

> decorated in poop as well.

> I have to say for me personally this is the worst of the worst. I

> find that my ability to stay calm flys out the window when this

> happens. You want to yell and spank, but this is no good. The child

> just doesn't understand. My only advice is to try detox and diet see

> if things improve at all.

> -

> >

> >

> >

> >

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