RE: First 24 hours on FAB...

[Guest guest]

I feel for you- & wish I had some sage advice! Any chance that her

leg muscles are just sore because this is the first they've been out

of the casts?

Is she just fussy, or acting like she's in pain (I know it's hard to

tell the difference sometimes)?

I wish there was a magic wand to wave so we knew what was bothering

the little ones.....

Big hugs coming your way- hope you & are feeling better soon.

&

[Guest guest]

We had to give Rose Tylenol the first night and then we held her all night long.

When she would start to stir we would change her position and be good for

another couple of hours. After all night, and I mean from 9 p.m. to 8 a.m., she

woke up and was a different baby. Since then, we have never had a problem with

the shoes and bar. It was my feeling at the time and I have noticed in other

posts, that her club foot was slightly swollen and it just hurt to put it in the

stiff leather shoe. I really think that was the problem because the next day

she was frustrated with the bar from time to time, but not unhappy.

On the other hand, people have commented that babies who's feet do not get fully

corrected REALLY FUSS. If you have the kind of bar that you can adjust the

setting, try moving her feet from 70 to 50 degrees. If this helps, I would get

her back to the Dr. for a check because she probably needs more correction.

Best of luck,

Robin & Rose

3/12/03 Right Club Foot.

chris@...> wrote:

Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut off yesterday

and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the usual fussiness and such

but since then it's been constant. The bar is set at the right spacing, the

shoes are not pinching her anywhere and are on correctly, and yet she just

doesn't like them. We spent the night together rocking and wishing for sleep

and I think tonight will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way

as well. Any suggestions?

Chris

[Guest guest]

We had to give Rose Tylenol the first night and then we held her all night long.

When she would start to stir we would change her position and be good for

another couple of hours. After all night, and I mean from 9 p.m. to 8 a.m., she

woke up and was a different baby. Since then, we have never had a problem with

the shoes and bar. It was my feeling at the time and I have noticed in other

posts, that her club foot was slightly swollen and it just hurt to put it in the

stiff leather shoe. I really think that was the problem because the next day

she was frustrated with the bar from time to time, but not unhappy.

On the other hand, people have commented that babies who's feet do not get fully

corrected REALLY FUSS. If you have the kind of bar that you can adjust the

setting, try moving her feet from 70 to 50 degrees. If this helps, I would get

her back to the Dr. for a check because she probably needs more correction.

Best of luck,

Robin & Rose

3/12/03 Right Club Foot.

chris@...> wrote:

Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut off yesterday

and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the usual fussiness and such

but since then it's been constant. The bar is set at the right spacing, the

shoes are not pinching her anywhere and are on correctly, and yet she just

doesn't like them. We spent the night together rocking and wishing for sleep

and I think tonight will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way

as well. Any suggestions?

Chris

[Guest guest]

We too have recently moved into the sandals. Although

tolerated them well, her feet were very tender after removing

that last cast. I felt so bad having to grab onto her ankles to put

on her brace with her feet being so sensitive. It may be that after

being in casts for so long has lost a sense of security. I know

it sounds funny but seemed to fuss between cast changes. As

soon as her casts were back on she would relax. (It could also have

been from the warmth of the casting material??) They are so used to

kicking their legs in heavy casts and then all of a sudden that is

changed. Her knees may be a little stiff also. Infant tylenol may

help to take the edge off. Hopefully will be tolerating her

sandals very soon. We'll keep our fingers crossed for you.

Bridget

2/20/04 bl cf - mitchell sandals 23/7

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

We too have recently moved into the sandals. Although

tolerated them well, her feet were very tender after removing

that last cast. I felt so bad having to grab onto her ankles to put

on her brace with her feet being so sensitive. It may be that after

being in casts for so long has lost a sense of security. I know

it sounds funny but seemed to fuss between cast changes. As

soon as her casts were back on she would relax. (It could also have

been from the warmth of the casting material??) They are so used to

kicking their legs in heavy casts and then all of a sudden that is

changed. Her knees may be a little stiff also. Infant tylenol may

help to take the edge off. Hopefully will be tolerating her

sandals very soon. We'll keep our fingers crossed for you.

Bridget

2/20/04 bl cf - mitchell sandals 23/7

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Everyone else has given great advice, and the only thing I can think

to add is to make sure you show here how to kick with both feet in

tandem instead of trying to alternate. Other than that, it may take

her a couple days to get used to the new sensation.

Angel

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Robin. I know that her feet are appropriately corrected because I asked

that several times and we checked them together. Her feet are sensitive from

being in the casts - for a variety of reasons she's had them for 3 mos - so we

put lotion on her last night when we changed her socks. Last night I was up

with her all night holding and rocking her. Since she has an apnea monitor I

don't feel bad putting her on her belly and I guess I'll try that tonight to see

if that helps. We've had a hard time feeding her, too. Whether it's due to the

shoes or the bad cold she has is anyone's guess. I don't think they hurt her as

I can move them around and such without her complaining. She's also already

gotten the hang of moving her legs together. Oh well... I'll let you know how

things go tonight.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

We had to give Rose Tylenol the first night and then we held her all night

long. When she would start to stir we would change her position and be good for

another couple of hours. After all night, and I mean from 9 p.m. to 8 a.m., she

woke up and was a different baby. Since then, we have never had a problem with

the shoes and bar. It was my feeling at the time and I have noticed in other

posts, that her club foot was slightly swollen and it just hurt to put it in the

stiff leather shoe. I really think that was the problem because the next day

she was frustrated with the bar from time to time, but not unhappy.

On the other hand, people have commented that babies who's feet do not get

fully corrected REALLY FUSS. If you have the kind of bar that you can adjust

the setting, try moving her feet from 70 to 50 degrees. If this helps, I would

get her back to the Dr. for a check because she probably needs more correction.

Best of luck,

Robin & Rose

3/12/03 Right Club Foot.

chris@...> wrote:

Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut off

yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the usual

fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar is set at the

right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere and are on correctly, and

yet she just doesn't like them. We spent the night together rocking and wishing

for sleep and I think tonight will be much the same since today has kind of gone

that way as well. Any suggestions?

Chris

[Guest guest]

You know - sore muscles kind of make sense. I'd love that magic wand... just

think how rich we'd be if we had it!

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

I feel for you- & wish I had some sage advice! Any chance that her

leg muscles are just sore because this is the first they've been out

of the casts?

Is she just fussy, or acting like she's in pain (I know it's hard to

tell the difference sometimes)?

I wish there was a magic wand to wave so we knew what was bothering

the little ones.....

Big hugs coming your way- hope you & are feeling better soon.

&

[Guest guest]

You know - sore muscles kind of make sense. I'd love that magic wand... just

think how rich we'd be if we had it!

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

I feel for you- & wish I had some sage advice! Any chance that her

leg muscles are just sore because this is the first they've been out

of the casts?

Is she just fussy, or acting like she's in pain (I know it's hard to

tell the difference sometimes)?

I wish there was a magic wand to wave so we knew what was bothering

the little ones.....

Big hugs coming your way- hope you & are feeling better soon.

&

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the good wishes - she did fuss between casts and for the first 24

hours or so of new ones. Then she settled right down and moved her legs like a

pro. Perhaps tonight will be a better night. I'll give an update tomorrow.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

We too have recently moved into the sandals. Although

tolerated them well, her feet were very tender after removing

that last cast. I felt so bad having to grab onto her ankles to put

on her brace with her feet being so sensitive. It may be that after

being in casts for so long has lost a sense of security. I know

it sounds funny but seemed to fuss between cast changes. As

soon as her casts were back on she would relax. (It could also have

been from the warmth of the casting material??) They are so used to

kicking their legs in heavy casts and then all of a sudden that is

changed. Her knees may be a little stiff also. Infant tylenol may

help to take the edge off. Hopefully will be tolerating her

sandals very soon. We'll keep our fingers crossed for you.

Bridget

2/20/04 bl cf - mitchell sandals 23/7

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the good wishes - she did fuss between casts and for the first 24

hours or so of new ones. Then she settled right down and moved her legs like a

pro. Perhaps tonight will be a better night. I'll give an update tomorrow.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

We too have recently moved into the sandals. Although

tolerated them well, her feet were very tender after removing

that last cast. I felt so bad having to grab onto her ankles to put

on her brace with her feet being so sensitive. It may be that after

being in casts for so long has lost a sense of security. I know

it sounds funny but seemed to fuss between cast changes. As

soon as her casts were back on she would relax. (It could also have

been from the warmth of the casting material??) They are so used to

kicking their legs in heavy casts and then all of a sudden that is

changed. Her knees may be a little stiff also. Infant tylenol may

help to take the edge off. Hopefully will be tolerating her

sandals very soon. We'll keep our fingers crossed for you.

Bridget

2/20/04 bl cf - mitchell sandals 23/7

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Angel - she did that right off the bat. No need to help her learn that one! I

was surprised but it seems to be working for her in that respect.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Everyone else has given great advice, and the only thing I can think

to add is to make sure you show here how to kick with both feet in

tandem instead of trying to alternate. Other than that, it may take

her a couple days to get used to the new sensation.

Angel

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Angel - she did that right off the bat. No need to help her learn that one! I

was surprised but it seems to be working for her in that respect.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Everyone else has given great advice, and the only thing I can think

to add is to make sure you show here how to kick with both feet in

tandem instead of trying to alternate. Other than that, it may take

her a couple days to get used to the new sensation.

Angel

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

One thing I would suggest is show how to move both her feet together

at the same time. If nothing is hurting her than it is probably frustration.

We were warned about this before my little one got his shoes. We would hold

the bar and move his feet for him. Within a day or two he was fine. Also

their little feet are soooo sensitive. I would wait on a full bath a couple

of days. I know that was the part I was looking forward to the most was to

bathe Simon, and believe me it made it that much worse. He did not want

anything to touch his feet.

>

>Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot

>To: nosurgery4clubfoot >

>Subject: First 24 hours on FAB...

>Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:04:39 -0400

>

>Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut off

>yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the usual

>fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar is set at

>the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere and are on

>correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent the night together

>rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight will be much the same

>since today has kind of gone that way as well. Any suggestions?

>Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anybody out there with any suggestions on success stories on how you got on

after the first 24 hours? I am going through it again!! (Lola got a lovely

infected blister which meant she was out of her boots for 2.5 weeks)... I am

expecting a few sleepless nights. Did all of your babies adjust

eventually????

Sandy

Re: Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Angel - she did that right off the bat. No need to help her learn that

one! I was surprised but it seems to be working for her in that respect.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Everyone else has given great advice, and the only thing I can think

to add is to make sure you show here how to kick with both feet in

tandem instead of trying to alternate. Other than that, it may take

her a couple days to get used to the new sensation.

Angel

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anybody out there with any suggestions on success stories on how you got on

after the first 24 hours? I am going through it again!! (Lola got a lovely

infected blister which meant she was out of her boots for 2.5 weeks)... I am

expecting a few sleepless nights. Did all of your babies adjust

eventually????

Sandy

Re: Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Angel - she did that right off the bat. No need to help her learn that

one! I was surprised but it seems to be working for her in that respect.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Everyone else has given great advice, and the only thing I can think

to add is to make sure you show here how to kick with both feet in

tandem instead of trying to alternate. Other than that, it may take

her a couple days to get used to the new sensation.

Angel

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anybody out there with any suggestions on success stories on how you got on

after the first 24 hours? I am going through it again!! (Lola got a lovely

infected blister which meant she was out of her boots for 2.5 weeks)... I am

expecting a few sleepless nights. Did all of your babies adjust

eventually????

Sandy

Re: Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Angel - she did that right off the bat. No need to help her learn that

one! I was surprised but it seems to be working for her in that respect.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Everyone else has given great advice, and the only thing I can think

to add is to make sure you show here how to kick with both feet in

tandem instead of trying to alternate. Other than that, it may take

her a couple days to get used to the new sensation.

Angel

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay - the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

When we first started the FAB last August, we had about 48 hours of

'very irritable' baby, and then he was fine.

Try playing with the bar on her feet, moving it up and down, so she gets

the hang of moving her legs in tandem.

And of course, making sure it is fitted well with her foot nice and

secure so that the heel doesn't move up, which causes blisters...

Also, I put together various practical tips on my website for parents,

maybe they will help you.

www.clubfoot.co.za/practical_tips.htm

Good luck!

and

24th Jan 2003, bilateral cf.

Re: Re: First 24 hours on

FAB...

Angel - she did that right off the bat. No need to help her learn

that

one! I was surprised but it seems to be working for her in that

respect.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Everyone else has given great advice, and the only thing I can think

to add is to make sure you show here how to kick with both feet in

tandem instead of trying to alternate. Other than that, it may take

her a couple days to get used to the new sensation.

Angel

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay -

the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

When we first started the FAB last August, we had about 48 hours of

'very irritable' baby, and then he was fine.

Try playing with the bar on her feet, moving it up and down, so she gets

the hang of moving her legs in tandem.

And of course, making sure it is fitted well with her foot nice and

secure so that the heel doesn't move up, which causes blisters...

Also, I put together various practical tips on my website for parents,

maybe they will help you.

www.clubfoot.co.za/practical_tips.htm

Good luck!

and

24th Jan 2003, bilateral cf.

Re: Re: First 24 hours on

FAB...

Angel - she did that right off the bat. No need to help her learn

that

one! I was surprised but it seems to be working for her in that

respect.

Chris

Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Everyone else has given great advice, and the only thing I can think

to add is to make sure you show here how to kick with both feet in

tandem instead of trying to alternate. Other than that, it may take

her a couple days to get used to the new sensation.

Angel

> Wow. It's been an interesting 24 hours. We got 's casts cut

off yesterday and we put on the shoes. That went okay -

the

usual fussiness and such but since then it's been constant. The bar

is set at the right spacing, the shoes are not pinching her anywhere

and are on correctly, and yet she just doesn't like them. We spent

the night together rocking and wishing for sleep and I think tonight

will be much the same since today has kind of gone that way as well.

Any suggestions?

> Chris

>

>

[Guest guest]

First, was she casted while the blister healed? If so, then she should get used

to the brace rather quickly. If not, you will have a problem due to lost

correction. Which brace are you using?

Angel

RE: Re: First 24 hours on FAB...

Anybody out there with any suggestions on success stories on how you got on

after the first 24 hours? I am going through it again!! (Lola got a lovely

infected blister which meant she was out of her boots for 2.5 weeks)... I am

expecting a few sleepless nights. Did all of your babies adjust

eventually????

Sandy